[Basic]What's the theme? - ad lib mafia

[MrsClov]

Mmk, nevermind then. I was going to find it odd if he wanted to even up both the d1 lynch and today's, but nevermind. 

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/20/2017 at 7:26 AM, MrsClov said:

Okay, hopefully this makes sense. I had a really nice spreadsheet made out, but it wasn't copying over and I didn't know if it would be okay to attach it to my post. So the idea behind this is to show who voted for who and when. I'm including joke votes, but not including unvotes. The post numbers may not be in order.  Hopefully this will be helpful. 

AJ voted for Darthe on post 107, Nolder on post 108, and Hallia on post 381.

 

I voted for Eldrick on post 117 and Hallia on post 336.

 

Darthe voted for Nolder on post 448.

 

Bopolis voted for Wildfire on post 550 and Hallia on post 651.

 

Niniel voted for Wildfire on post 587 and Nolder on post 152.

 

Verbal voted for Wildfire on post 645, Eldrick on post 157, and Hallia on post 657.

 

Wildfire voted for Eldrick on post 14 and Hallia on post 637.

 

Dice voted for Hallia on post 208.

 

Eldrick voted for AJ on posts 15 and 109, Darthe on posts 43 and 529. 

 

Nolder voted for Darthe on post 97 and Hallia on post 524.

 

Lenlo voted for Wildfire on post 111.

 

Ironeyes voted for me on post 29, Wildfire on post 584, and Eldrick on post 660

 

Hallia voted for  Wildfire on post 636. 

 

People who were never on Hallia (not including Hallia): Darthe, Niniel, Eldrick, Lenlo, and Ironeyes. 

 

People who had a vote on Hallia AND Wifi at some point and time on D1: Bopolis, Verbal

 

People who were never on Wifi: AJ, Me, Darthe, Dice, Eldrick, and Nolder,

 

People who never voted for either: Darthe and Eldrick

Good place to start finding out. Driving home now.

[Eldrick4221]

Or that :P

[Eldrick4221]

Ok. Windshield defrosted. Actually driving home now.

[Andrej]

Interesting string here. I'm glad we're warming up

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/25/2017 at 3:19 PM, Andrej said:

Interesting string here. I'm glad we're warming up

I'm sure that meant something to you, but I have no idea what you're referring to :P

[Andrej]

  On 1/25/2017 at 6:40 AM, Lenlo said:

[v]Marsh[/v] Healthy competition. Day seems to be stagnating and ever so slowly leaning Verb. Last time that happened we hit town in Nolder. Apathy is the enemy.

This is a throwaway vote.

 

Big FOS

[Andrej]

  On 1/25/2017 at 12:21 PM, Darthe said:

I dont know which of verb eldrick and len is a wolf, or if its really which is town, but if you are town please dont vote marsh today. Its not gonna pan out well, and I cant quite summate why but I am sure of it rn.

Can you expound on this more. You've been saying it all game. What makes you this confident?

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

Ironeyes (1): Lenlo

 

Verbal (3): Ironeyes, MrsClov, Eldrick

 

Eldrick (2): Darthe, Dice

 

Not voting (3): Verbal, AJ, Niniel,

 

 

 

 

EOD3 in: 

[Lenlo]

  On 1/25/2017 at 6:57 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 1/25/2017 at 6:40 AM, Lenlo said:

[v]Marsh[/v] Healthy competition. Day seems to be stagnating and ever so slowly leaning Verb. Last time that happened we hit town in Nolder. Apathy is the enemy.

I don't like this reason. Like, at all.

 

Marsh and Nini are your bottom 2. Your vote makes sense.

 

But your reason boils down to "because it's not verb". You're voting to even the trains, which in essence gives verb a chance to live should nothing else change.

 

If you had voted Marsh because of your reason for suspecting him, there'd be no issue here.

So your problem is I have more then 1 reason for voting someone? Really? Dude its like your looking for reasons to call people wolfy now.

[Lenlo]

Yeah, throwaway vote, because I wanted to make sure I actually had a vote today since I didn't yesterday. Interesting how much happened the moment marsh tied verb and became a legit competing train though. Eldrick goes crazy and switches to verb.

 

Screw it, Kobe! [unvote][v]Eldrick [/v].

 

That string of posts is dirty af. Ate out the wazzoo

[Verbal32]

  On 1/25/2017 at 12:47 PM, Niniel said:

Marsh - It´s the same reasons I had before, because of his D1 read on Hallia and voting Eldrick. I have no notes from him N1 and D2. I don´t really get the back and forth between him and Verb. He seems to think that Verb ignored him but I don´t think I get it. Darthe seems sure about him being town though. Meh. 

 

Thank god I'm not the only one here, lol.

 

 

 

  On 1/25/2017 at 1:08 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

[unvote]

[v]Eldrick[/v]

 

Don't care anymore. Have fun figuring out the rest of the game.

 

Still probably one in Verb/Marsh

Probably one in Darthe/AJ/Nini. Maybe Lenlo

 

Still confident MrsClov and Dice are town.

 

I know you unvoted from this, but please don't post like this again.  I could have easily given up, but I've fought to be off the lynch when it is clear there is a movement to lynch me.

 

Actually, that certain people haven't noticed this is not my scum game makes me pretty sure we are literally going in the opposite direction we should be.

 

 

One of MrsClov/AJ/Darthe is scum.  Very confident.

 

That said, I know I'm not getting any of them lynched today.  If my flip helps pave the way for a town win, I'm down.  But I think Marsh or Tina could be the other one.  I don't think Eldrick is scum based on the above quote.  I really don't.

[Verbal32]

[v]Marsh[/v]

[Verbal32]

Is it something I said?

[MrsClov]

ITT: Frantic voting. 

Verbal, I'm not sure what else I can do other than jump up and down saying I'm not scum. I mean I guess I can link to my scum games on WF, but I don't think that'd be all that helpful. I don't deep wolf, I don't even regular wolf very well. I'll give you that AJ or Darthe could be, given that the potentials are narrowing down bit by bit. I've mainly been hoping it's not AJ because of the whole leading the thread/being the voice of reason thing. 

I find it interesting that aside from D2 close to EOD there has been two fairly tied up trains. 

[Niniel]

My last list that didn´t include Eld or Lenlo, so it´s all in the same place. 

 

  On 1/25/2017 at 12:47 PM, Niniel said:

This has taken me a lot of time but now I´m finally done re-reading and taking notes. I don´t know if I have become any smarter though. :)

 

 

First my town reads:

 

AJ - He didn´t do much D2, compared to D1 but I still like most of his reasoning. As I said before, suspecting him for just being alive is not worth much unless you have other reasons for suspecting him and I don´t have that. 

 

MrsClov - Seems a bit lost? Trying to go in many directions, which might be good or not. Still, she is spending a lot of time trying to figure things out. Her vote on Hallia is in her favour.

 

Dice - His vote on Hallia is definitely giving him townie points. I like his posts about Eldrick, that I didn´t payed much attention to durin D2, since I wasn´t suspicious of Eldrick at the time. Now when I re-read I understood what he mean and I like the reasoning. Wish he were here more. 

 

Darthe - He has the same suspects as me, except for Marsh. I like his posts on Eldrick today. They pointed me in the same direction as Dice and Bopolis yesterday. Darthe, I know you don´t like my lists but I really wish you could do one. 

 

 

Over to my scum reads. Here it gets a lot trickier since those that I suspect all suspect each other. I have a hard time to see it clear. Like Verb and Marsh - I can see both as town but not together. I will have to ignore their connections/lack of connections right now.

 

Verb - Other than the D1 stuff that we have talked about before, I don´t like how he refers to me. Like when I asked a question to everyone, what the D2 trains would mean for Verb´s alignment. I meant it as an open question. But he says in #1309 that it´s a soft push and that I will use it today. Kind of a way of threatening me, like if I will keep suspecting him, I´m mafia? I don´t like how he throws shade (yes, I said it) on MrsClov. He says that he has a gut feeling, that she is going with the flow, and that she doesn´t like that she is making him look bad. He says that it doesn´t mean that she is scum but that she is a suspect. It feels like he is building up something to come back to later. I guess that is what AJ saw in him after D1. He is also one that brought up being suspicious of AJ and MrsClov just for being alive. 

 

Marsh - It´s the same reasons I had before, because of his D1 read on Hallia and voting Eldrick. I have no notes from him N1 and D2. I don´t really get the back and forth between him and Verb. He seems to think that Verb ignored him but I don´t think I get it. Darthe seems sure about him being town though. Meh. 

 

 

Okay, time is running out here. I´m going to a meeting in my daughter´s school in 15 minutes and I haven´t dressed yet. I will get back to Lenlo and Eldrick when I get back and vote then. I have two other appointments today but I think I will get the time between two of them. 

 

This was my read after re-reading most of D2.

 

  On 1/25/2017 at 10:43 AM, Niniel said:

 

What I have changed my mind about is my read on Eldrick. Both Bop and Dice pointed out that he went from not wanting to vote at all, to looking up Nolder after AJ voted him, and then voting him too. As Dice said, one of Eldrick´s reasons for voting Nolder was his focus on Darthe D1, but Eldrick had the same focus on Darthe D1. He changed his mind about Darthe after several players saying that they thought Hallia´s defense of Darthe was just buddying. 

 

Will continue to read and see what I think about Eld as I move on. 

 

 

Since this he has voted Marsh (gutvote), then he selfvoted, voted Marsh again and his latest vote is on Verb (gutvote again). 

 

This is just too confusing. I started thinking Eld was town, then I got swayed by Dice, Bop and Darthe. And todays posts are just everywhere. Selfvoting doesn´t give him any townie points from me. 

 

 

 

Lenlo - D1 was (what I found) fencesitting on Eld and avoiding Hallia. I have no notes from D2. Today he says that mafia were probably more active D2, voting. That is convenient since he wasn´t voting himself. In #1374 he says to Darthe that he rather vote Verb first, and if he is mafia, vote Eld later. Then he votes Marsh for "good competition". And now he voted Eld anyway. He is not making sence. 

[Niniel]

Conclusion: Right now I want to lynch Verb or Lenlo. Those are on my top mafia list. Eld and Marsh comes next. 

 

 

After my last post about Verb, he chose to comment not on the things that made me suspicous of him, but that I don´t understand Marsh´s reason for voting him. That is weird. That + there is actually already a train on him makes me vote him instead of Lenlo. I could just as easy vote Lenlo though. 

 

 

[v] Verbal [/v]

[MrsClov]

@Niniel, I think you make some really good points on Lenlo and Eldrick.

[Niniel]

Well, my Eldrick read is mostly based on thoughts from Dice, Bopolis and Darthe. 

[Andrej]

[v]Lenlo[/v]

[Andrej]

Let's try that on for size.

 

I'm still not sure about Verb but I haven't liked Lenlo's posts this phase. And I'm afraid if we lynch Verb and he flips Town then I'll be stuck tunneling one of Nini/Marsh when they could also be Town.

 

Nini's posts have been consistently good throughout the game and though I'd like it more if she were around frequently I think she's been displaying a thoughtful approach and doesn't seem to have an agenda.

 

Marsh I'm really null on which bugs me. He reads as straightforward but his voting record isn't great and he's been stuck on his Verb point for a while.

[Andrej]

I really don't know what to make of Eldrick's freak out. I don't remember ever seeing him blowing up like that in the past and he's often under pressure in mostly every game I've ever seen him in.

[Andrej]

The good news is since we lynched scum D1 that gave us an extra Day.

 

We could mislynch today and tomorrow and still have a shot in F5. Obviously that isn't ideal but we can significantly narrow the pool and NKs will always give some info.

[Verbal32]

  On 1/25/2017 at 7:24 PM, MrsClov said:

ITT: Frantic voting. 

 

Verbal, I'm not sure what else I can do other than jump up and down saying I'm not scum. I mean I guess I can link to my scum games on WF, but I don't think that'd be all that helpful. I don't deep wolf, I don't even regular wolf very well. I'll give you that AJ or Darthe could be, given that the potentials are narrowing down bit by bit. I've mainly been hoping it's not AJ because of the whole leading the thread/being the voice of reason thing. 

 

I find it interesting that aside from D2 close to EOD there has been two fairly tied up trains. 

 

I'm sure you understand that I'm not going to accept that as proof of town, right?  I've liked a lot of your posts, I'll give you that.  But some things you've said (that I've pointed out at least once or twice) have got me left with a weird feeling that I can't shake.  Perhaps my misread, sure.  Or perhaps you're saying things like the bold to defend yourself, which I don't like and won't accept.  Clearly I'm not getting an opportunity to settle this without the game being over, lol.

 

 

 

 

  On 1/25/2017 at 7:34 PM, Niniel said:

Conclusion: Right now I want to lynch Verb or Lenlo. Those are on my top mafia list. Eld and Marsh comes next. 

 

 

After my last post about Verb, he chose to comment not on the things that made me suspicous of him, but that I don´t understand Marsh´s reason for voting him. That is weird. That + there is actually already a train on him makes me vote him instead of Lenlo. I could just as easy vote Lenlo though. 

 

 

[v] Verbal [/v]

 

I cherry picked that comment because Marsh has been relentless in saying I'm ignoring and not understanding when he's saying.  I do understand, I didn't ignore, and I'm choosing to sus him anyway.  *shrug*

[Verbal32]

  On 1/25/2017 at 8:18 PM, Andrej said:

Let's try that on for size.

 

I'm still not sure about Verb but I haven't liked Lenlo's posts this phase. And I'm afraid if we lynch Verb and he flips Town then I'll be stuck tunneling one of Nini/Marsh when they could also be Town.

 

Nini's posts have been consistently good throughout the game and though I'd like it more if she were around frequently I think she's been displaying a thoughtful approach and doesn't seem to have an agenda.

 

Marsh I'm really null on which bugs me. He reads as straightforward but his voting record isn't great and he's been stuck on his Verb point for a while.

 

I'm afraid we're giving Darthe what amounts to a free pass when he really hasn't scumhunted much at all this game.

 

It is bugging me more and more.