[Basic]What's the theme? - ad lib mafia

[MrsClov]

[unvote] there's a lot of info going on right now. I want to take my time and think about it.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/24/2017 at 5:37 PM, Verbal32 said:

Re: my read on Lenlo - mostly due to how he treated his read of Eldrick, which is essentially the same thing I did. Also, how he responded to being wrong about Hallia. He put in some work in re-reading and looking for posts and summarizing - overall I liked it.

I agree with you with his read on me. It's the part of his game that felt the towniest, but it was a read on me, so it's a different viewpoint.

 

I didn't like his read on Hally IIRC. I'll have to pay attention to that when I reread him tonight and pay attention to that, see if I can see what you did.

[Eldrick4221]

I'm paranoid that I'm wrong about AJ. He is good at fooling me as scum, so the fact that others were town reading him as well really helped in making me feel confident there.

 

But Bop dying instead of him or MrsClov has made me worry again.

 

That being said, I have no intention to dig into my town reads until my POE has been sorted out.

[Eldrick4221]

Still not sure how I feel about Verb. As I said before it's bugging me that he's using the term "casting shade" to describe his own actions, because that's a phrase I attribute to scum.

 

But the fact that he's saying it about himself makes the issue confusing.

[Niniel]

This will be a quick visit in the thread as I got too much to do this evening. I´m not working tomorrow so I will re-read D2 in the morning and give (new?) reads then. Will just comment on some of the post on this page. 

[Eldrick4221]

@Marsh

 

Can you give a recap on why you think Verb is scum. Why you have been pushing him for 2 phases.

[Niniel]

  On 1/24/2017 at 3:16 PM, Verbal32 said:

Let me just ask what's bothering me:

 

1.  @AJ - why are you still alive?  More to the point - why are you and MrsClov BOTH still alive?  The 2 top townies per popular opinion, and you both still live.

 

2.  @Marsh - why are you so focused on 1 detail (me sussing you), while I'm trying to figure out multiple slots on the roster?  Tunnel vision ain't a good thing, yo.

 

3.  @Tina - You've said in the past that you town read me based on how I'm questioning things and not going with the flow.  I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'm doing those things in this game.  I'm questioning people 99% of the players assume are townies.  One could say I'm against clearing people, and case me on that.  But NOBODY is doing that, which makes me wonder.  What makes you still think I'm scum?

 

4.  @Lenlo - you are my only solid town read, FYI - keep doing you  :-)

 

5.  @me - I didn't actually have 5 items, but having only 4 felt weird

 

1. I had that thought as well but I think it´s wrong to use that as a sole reason for suspecting someone that you are not suspicious of for other reasons.

 

3. Have I said that? I have litteraly the memory of a goldfish. I promise to take a new look at your posts when I re-read and see what I can find. Okay? 

 

4. Why? He is one of my bottom three.

[Niniel]

  On 1/24/2017 at 5:03 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/24/2017 at 2:34 AM, MrsClov said:

 

  On 1/24/2017 at 2:33 AM, MrsClov said:

For what it’s worth, Hallia never once mentioned Niniel or responded to any of her posts from what I can tell.

 

NIniel says that the lynch on both Hallia and Wifi looks good in post#585. In Post #591, she posted her reads list her read on Hallia was that she agrees with Aj’s read on Hallia.

I didn’t mention it at the time but post #741 bothered me. She was on Wifi, and wasn’t around for the final lynch. When she finally did come back on she said “That was a good lynch:)” It bothered me because she was still on Wildfire and now looking back it kind of bothers me more because she wanted look into Marsh for refusing to lynch Hallia. Oh By the way, the final vote count for Wifi after her claim? Lenlo, Niniel, and Hallia.

 

[v] Niniel[/v]

She hasnt done anything this game. Im not a fan of lynching in the dark when there are actually wolfy players here like verb, eldrick, argueably Len.

 

 

I have done things! ISO me and you will see. 

[Niniel]

  On 1/24/2017 at 5:42 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

Being I have reason to believe Darthe is town, this is a point in Marsh's favor.

 

I don´t get this. 

[Niniel]

  On 1/24/2017 at 5:37 PM, Verbal32 said:

Re: my read on Lenlo - mostly due to how he treated his read of Eldrick, which is essentially the same thing I did.  Also, how he responded to being wrong about Hallia.  He put in some work in re-reading and looking for posts and summarizing - overall I liked it.

 

Sorry, here it was.

[Niniel]

  On 1/24/2017 at 5:59 PM, MrsClov said:

[unvote] there's a lot of info going on right now. I want to take my time and think about it.

 

Thank you. 

[Niniel]

Just a question for all of you before I have to leave. There were only two trains yesterday and we know Nolder was town. What do that mean for Verb (who was the other train) and those that never voted at all? Just something I would like your thoughts on when I come back tomorrow. 

[Andrej]

  On 1/24/2017 at 8:28 PM, Niniel said:

Just a question for all of you before I have to leave. There were only two trains yesterday and we know Nolder was town. What do that mean for Verb (who was the other train) and those that never voted at all? Just something I would like your thoughts on when I come back tomorrow.

It's null at best. 5 of 11 players voted at all D2 so there's not a lot of info to pull from that.

[Eldrick4221]

With so many people not voting yesterday, a good number not even contributing, there's a decent chance that everyone that voted was town. You, I think, are the only possible exception to that.

 

What that tells me is exactly what that information means. Both trains were town driven, and it means nothing for verb's alignment.

[Eldrick4221]

Wait. Marsh was a vote too, I think.

 

That's what I get for answering from memory lol.

[Eldrick4221]

There's nothing to pull from nolder'scum train, at least. That Marsh and Nini voted verb instead of known town is something to think about. Might mean verb is also town and scum didn't care. Might mean there was bussing going on.

[Eldrick4221]

Nolder's*

 

Stupid autocorrect changing 1 letter to a word.

[Darthe]

  On 1/24/2017 at 8:23 PM, Niniel said:

 

  On 1/24/2017 at 5:03 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/24/2017 at 2:34 AM, MrsClov said:

 

  On 1/24/2017 at 2:33 AM, MrsClov said:

For what it’s worth, Hallia never once mentioned Niniel or responded to any of her posts from what I can tell.

 

NIniel says that the lynch on both Hallia and Wifi looks good in post#585. In Post #591, she posted her reads list her read on Hallia was that she agrees with Aj’s read on Hallia.

I didn’t mention it at the time but post #741 bothered me. She was on Wifi, and wasn’t around for the final lynch. When she finally did come back on she said “That was a good lynch:)” It bothered me because she was still on Wildfire and now looking back it kind of bothers me more because she wanted look into Marsh for refusing to lynch Hallia. Oh By the way, the final vote count for Wifi after her claim? Lenlo, Niniel, and Hallia.

[v] Niniel[/v]

She hasnt done anything this game. Im not a fan of lynching in the dark when there are actually wolfy players here like verb, eldrick, argueably Len.

I have done things! ISO me and you will see.

I'm still not big on rereading bit I just may for you.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/24/2017 at 8:54 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

There's nothing to pull from nolder'scum train, at least. That Marsh and Nini voted verb instead of known town is something to think about. Might mean verb is also town and scum didn't care. Might mean there was bussing going on.

Might mean scum was inactive, and the trains were town driven, like I said in my earlier post, before I remembered Marsh was voting. Marsh could still be town.

[Darthe]

  On 1/24/2017 at 8:50 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

With so many people not voting yesterday, a good number not even contributing, there's a decent chance that everyone that voted was town. You, I think, are the only possible exception to that.

 

What that tells me is exactly what that information means. Both trains were town driven, and it means nothing for verb's alignment.

I'm not at all in favor of this train of thought, doubly so from you.

 

It assumes that the wolves are apathetic, lazy or absent and that we don't have a deep wolf. Thats a lot of assuming to casually toss around as basis for anything, much less as grounds for a read or reads.

 

The bottom line is really flawed in particular.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/24/2017 at 9:00 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/24/2017 at 8:50 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

With so many people not voting yesterday, a good number not even contributing, there's a decent chance that everyone that voted was town. You, I think, are the only possible exception to that.

 

What that tells me is exactly what that information means. Both trains were town driven, and it means nothing for verb's alignment.

I'm not at all in favor of this train of thought, doubly so from you.

 

It assumes that the wolves are apathetic, lazy or absent and that we don't have a deep wolf. Thats a lot of assuming to casually toss around as basis for anything, much less as grounds for a read or reads.

 

The bottom line is really flawed in particular.

I will assume my town reads are town until given a reason not to, or my POE is exhausted.

 

With that in mind, there is a good chance that ithe exactly that. That the scum were apathetic, lazy, absent, or not involved in the VC for whatever reason.

 

I never said you had to agree with it. It's my outlook on what happened.

[Eldrick4221]

I get that you think I'm scum for some reason. I'm not. I know that at least one of the 5 votes were town. I believe 3 more also are. Marsh is possibly scum on the list.

 

If Marsh is town, the chance that every vote was town is good. So from that I derived that the trains were town driven, because of the lack of contribution from half the player base and the voters involved.

[Eldrick4221]

I'm not in any way assuming they were town driven.

[Eldrick4221]

Interesting that you have an issue with me saying they were probably town driven, but not from AJ saying the info from the trains are null.

 

We are both drawing the conclusion that there probably isn't information to gather from the trains, but you don't have an issue with him.

[Eldrick4221]

Whether or not verb''s train was town driven or not doesn't change that Nolder's likely was. I'm town and AJ and MrsClov are very likely town as well.