Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Calder]

Damn your acronyms. What is WTL again.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

 

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

[Ironeyes]

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NotBob, Sock, Amega

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

 

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

 

So we're in for some WIFOM even if there is a body guard. Great. 

[Ironeyes]

Damn your acronyms. What is WTL again.

Willing to lynch, I think

[Zander?]

 

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. 

 

I think the flaw in your logic is assuming that Zander just wanted you dead for some inexplicable reason (before finding out you are the cop) and would use any means to make it happen. While some mafia players go personal like that, they are few and far between. If Zander is mafia, and was trying to get you mislynched, it would not be in his best interest to night kill you. That would a) waste all the work he did to cast suspicion your way, and b) make him look bad for having tunneled a townie. Also, as part of a team, he would not have unilateral control over the night kill, so even if he had some sort of axe to grind his team would probably have other ideas about who to kill. 

 

Also, by claiming you practically guarantee getting night killed, so how is that an upgrade from possibly getting night killed? 

 

 

this guy gets it

 

but again I dont see why he claims as Scum there either.

[Sooh]

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NB, Amega, ??? Possibly Shad.

[Zander?]

Damn your acronyms. What is WTL again.

 

 

 

Damn your acronyms. What is WTL again.

Willing to lynch, I think

 

 

correct

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

 

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

 

 

I said even if he DIDNT claim.

 

so scum wouldnt know for CERTAIN he was the cop and with the suss he was getting he likely makes it to d2 imo

 

and in what world do you think Scum shoots the IC over the Cop when you just said theyd be worried about getting peeked!?!?!?!?!?

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

 

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

 

 

I said even if he DIDNT claim.

 

so scum wouldnt know for CERTAIN he was the cop and with the suss he was getting he likely makes it to d2 imo

 

and in what world do you think Scum shoots the IC over the Cop when you just said theyd be worried about getting peeked!?!?!?!?!?

 

I missed the "didn't" part.

 

Also I just explained the world where scum shoots IC over the cop.

 

Bolded it.

[Zander?]

 

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NotBob, Sock, Amega

 

 

In that order?

 

im worried about a blind lynch on Amega tho.

 

we really gain no info either way and no chance for a claim.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

 

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

 

 

I said even if he DIDNT claim.

 

so scum wouldnt know for CERTAIN he was the cop and with the suss he was getting he likely makes it to d2 imo

 

and in what world do you think Scum shoots the IC over the Cop when you just said theyd be worried about getting peeked!?!?!?!?!?

 

I missed the "didn't" part.

 

Also I just explained the world where scum shoots IC over the cop.

 

Bolded it.

 

 

You dont really believe that???

 

take down the number of confirmed townies:

 

ok so 1 fully 1 likely confirmed.

 

Scum choices to narrow down confirmed...lets shoot the IC over the Cop who would then have a peek which would be confirmed over the IC?!?!?!?!?!

[Ironeyes]

 

 

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NotBob, Sock, Amega

 

 

In that order?

 

im worried about a blind lynch on Amega tho.

 

we really gain no info either way and no chance for a claim.

 

Yes, in that order. I don't like blind lynches either but I think at least one of the scum is laying low, and I don't think it's Pral. Would much prefer one of the other two though.

[Calder]

WTL I guess is Sock/Shad

 

And no. There is no world where the Cop isnt shot tonight. His peek creates a new IC at worst.

[Zander?]

IC at the end was supposed to be Cop

[Zander?]

WTL I guess is Sock/Shad

 

And no. There is no world where the Cop isnt shot tonight. His peek creates a new IC at worst.

 

exactly.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

 

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

 

 

I said even if he DIDNT claim.

 

so scum wouldnt know for CERTAIN he was the cop and with the suss he was getting he likely makes it to d2 imo

 

and in what world do you think Scum shoots the IC over the Cop when you just said theyd be worried about getting peeked!?!?!?!?!?

 

I missed the "didn't" part.

 

Also I just explained the world where scum shoots IC over the cop.

 

Bolded it.

 

 

 

 

You dont really believe that???

 

take down the number of confirmed townies:

 

ok so 1 fully 1 likely confirmed.

 

Scum choices to narrow down confirmed...lets shoot the IC over the Cop who would then have a peek which would be confirmed over the IC?!?!?!?!?!

 

One confirmed person in the game currently, the IC.

 

Cop says he'll peek a townie.

 

Scums shoot IC.

 

Cop has town result on townie, but town WIFOM's and decides to lynch claimed cop since he didn't die at night. 

 

Peeked townie dies at night.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NotBob, Sock, Amega

 

 

In that order?

 

im worried about a blind lynch on Amega tho.

 

we really gain no info either way and no chance for a claim.

 

Yes, in that order. I don't like blind lynches either but I think at least one of the scum is laying low, and I don't think it's Pral. Would much prefer one of the other two though.

 

 

Thoughts on Shad?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

 

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

 

 

I said even if he DIDNT claim.

 

so scum wouldnt know for CERTAIN he was the cop and with the suss he was getting he likely makes it to d2 imo

 

and in what world do you think Scum shoots the IC over the Cop when you just said theyd be worried about getting peeked!?!?!?!?!?

 

I missed the "didn't" part.

 

Also I just explained the world where scum shoots IC over the cop.

 

Bolded it.

 

 

 

 

You dont really believe that???

 

take down the number of confirmed townies:

 

ok so 1 fully 1 likely confirmed.

 

Scum choices to narrow down confirmed...lets shoot the IC over the Cop who would then have a peek which would be confirmed over the IC?!?!?!?!?!

 

One confirmed person in the game currently, the IC.

 

Cop says he'll peek a townie.

 

Scums shoot IC.

 

Cop has town result on townie, but town WIFOM's and decides to lynch claimed cop since he didn't die at night. 

 

Peeked townie dies at night.

 

 

 

WTL I guess is Sock/Shad

 

And no. There is no world where the Cop isnt shot tonight. His peek creates a new IC at worst.

 

Sooh it sounds like youre trying to create WIFOM when there should be none.

[Calder]

I have never been in this situation before, with cop outed D1 and no doc potential (BG is not same thing).

 

Wouldnt a mass town claim have merit? They cant shoot anyone but Random. So no one puts themselves at risk any further and we narrow the pool of suspects.

[Zander?]

Anyone think Pral/Shad could be w/w with Pral's tendency to bus?!!?!?!?

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

 

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NotBob, Sock, Amega

 

 

In that order?

 

im worried about a blind lynch on Amega tho.

 

we really gain no info either way and no chance for a claim.

 

Yes, in that order. I don't like blind lynches either but I think at least one of the scum is laying low, and I don't think it's Pral. Would much prefer one of the other two though.

 

 

Thoughts on Shad?

I don't really know about him. I've only played one game with him before and it was manifestly atypical for him, so I've got no experience/meta to go by. And his low activity is easily explained by RL, just like mine. That's why I asked Random to view him. 

[Calder]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

 

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

 

I said even if he DIDNT claim.

 

so scum wouldnt know for CERTAIN he was the cop and with the suss he was getting he likely makes it to d2 imo

 

and in what world do you think Scum shoots the IC over the Cop when you just said theyd be worried about getting peeked!?!?!?!?!?

I missed the "didn't" part.

 

Also I just explained the world where scum shoots IC over the cop.

 

Bolded it.

 

 

 

You dont really believe that???

 

take down the number of confirmed townies:

 

ok so 1 fully 1 likely confirmed.

 

Scum choices to narrow down confirmed...lets shoot the IC over the Cop who would then have a peek which would be confirmed over the IC?!?!?!?!?!

One confirmed person in the game currently, the IC.

 

Cop says he'll peek a townie.

 

Scums shoot IC.

 

Cop has town result on townie, but town WIFOM's and decides to lynch claimed cop since he didn't die at night. 

 

Peeked townie dies at night.

 

 

WTL I guess is Sock/Shad

And no. There is no world where the Cop isnt shot tonight. His peek creates a new IC at worst.

 

 

Sooh it sounds like youre trying to create WIFOM when there should be none.

Yea it is kind of weird.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

 

 

Ok But Im Town

 

If your the Cop go ahead and peek me we know theres no GF in the game.

 

And what youre basically saying here is your reads are more important to be remembered then you using your peak,  Like Townies cant be wrong...

 

Because even if you didnt claim here and werent mislynched today Scum would not likely to shoot you because of all the suss youre getting here today.

 

But again I dont see why Scum you would claim here either.

 

I just want you to see how Im seeing it.

 

True, unless they're worried they'll be peeked. But, of course, if the peek is announced beforehand they'll know if it's on them or not, and then they can control whether or not to kill there. The only worry for scums if he's not peeking them is if too many people get confirmed as townies. Basically, if they don't kill Random tonight they have to kill Marsh to keep the number of cleared players down.

 

 

I said even if he DIDNT claim.

 

so scum wouldnt know for CERTAIN he was the cop and with the suss he was getting he likely makes it to d2 imo

 

and in what world do you think Scum shoots the IC over the Cop when you just said theyd be worried about getting peeked!?!?!?!?!?

 

I missed the "didn't" part.

 

Also I just explained the world where scum shoots IC over the cop.

 

Bolded it.

 

 

 

 

You dont really believe that???

 

take down the number of confirmed townies:

 

ok so 1 fully 1 likely confirmed.

 

Scum choices to narrow down confirmed...lets shoot the IC over the Cop who would then have a peek which would be confirmed over the IC?!?!?!?!?!

 

One confirmed person in the game currently, the IC.

 

Cop says he'll peek a townie.

 

Scums shoot IC.

 

Cop has town result on townie, but town WIFOM's and decides to lynch claimed cop since he didn't die at night. 

 

Peeked townie dies at night.

 

 

 

WTL I guess is Sock/Shad

 

And no. There is no world where the Cop isnt shot tonight. His peek creates a new IC at worst.

 

 

 

Sooh it sounds like youre trying to create WIFOM when there should be none.

 

Why don't you just jump on board and lynch us now. 

 

It's a hammer game. All you need is maj.

[dicetosser1]

It does make sense. It's what I was considering when he snap voted random.

 

What do you take from him 'not realizing how the traitor worked'. Was it legit? Was it alignment indicative?

 

zander sucks at understanding setups. its null

 

 

 

 

 

 

Literally was what I posted earlier.

 

That I took her opinion into consideration.

 

She posted the vote as a "snap vote to Zander posting the Trump thing" but hadn't given an actual read of him.

 

I developed a Town one while she wasn't there.

You have a qt. That's hydra play, two heads to cover but also twice the liability on thread.

Slightly off-topic, but when playing as a hydra, do you get a standard QT like if you're mafia or in the death thread? I haven't been part of one before.

Need to ask aj for approval to answering that.

 

wtf??  

 

Random hydras get a qt of their own tho i was once a scum hydra and iirc we did not get a separate one

 

 

cause of my instant reaction to it

 

 

i immediately saw sooh pinching the bridge of her nose rolling her eyes and muttering your name unbelievingly.

 

my head points out that it could be frustration that ure being sooo scummy ure outting your self but i have learned that if i have an instinctual reaction/answer  follow it.  if i dont im usually wrong

 

tbqh I could see Scum!Sooh doing the same things after some of those posts as well.

 

 

I DID say that too