Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Sooh]

Calder, you never had an open mind. I haven't seen you re-evaluating anything from my slot since you said you would. Please prove me wrong, but I believe you have decided you think we're scum, and nothing I can say or do, or Eldrick can say or do, is going to convince you otherwise. 

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Eldrick has far outpaced any version of his wolf game I've ever seen

So

/shrug

Megapeek

Bad reason. I'm always a high volume poster. This is null.

This post was aids to me btw. My scum partners in past games have shown the same need to inform people of when a town read is based off bad reasons. They seem to think it will make them look more towny.

It doesnt. It makes you look like your main concern is trying to look townie. So I will be voting Eldrick for now.

[v]Eldrick[/v]

Post that came with your vote. Nothing to dispute. It WAS a bad post. Talking about my own meta is a habit I need to break.

[Calder]

 

That Random list looked fine. Dont like the votes it drew.

Eldrick is prob a wolf. Agree with NotBob. Also Zander really does not feel town at all, but it is early.

First game related post involving me.

Agreeing with Notbob that I'm scum. He didn't give a decent reason. I grilled him on that to no effect. You agreed with his stance also without a reason.

So I should have grilled you too?

Yes you should have. Be consistent. Bc I battle in thread. Always do. Why go for the person with a lower thresd presence but not me?

[Eldrick4221]

2 posts that you simply mention that I'm scummy. Converse with Sooh about GnD. Then this:

 

 

What the heck... How did you guys put up thirty-five pages while I slept off my jet lag? This is gonna be a long catch up.

Anyone want to give me a short summary of the current situation in the mean time please?

Manbat and Nyn got kicked out da game

Eldrick is posting a lot

Zander not posting as much as expected

Darthe not caring as usual

Calder being Calder

Dice is town

Notbob hates Eldrick

Amega/Cass/Pral left no impression

All you say here is that I talk a lot. Nothing to comment here.

[Calder]

Calder, you never had an open mind. I haven't seen you re-evaluating anything from my slot since you said you would. Please prove me wrong, but I believe you have decided you think we're scum, and nothing I can say or do, or Eldrick can say or do, is going to convince you otherwise.

 

^^^^Refer above to the post Eldrick made that I took issue with and voted him for.

 

Find me something that is worse than that and I will switch. But, this thread is pretty shut down. A ton of inactivity.

[Calder]

2 posts that you simply mention that I'm scummy. Converse with Sooh about GnD. Then this:

 

What the heck... How did you guys put up thirty-five pages while I slept off my jet lag? This is gonna be a long catch up.

Anyone want to give me a short summary of the current situation in the mean time please?

Manbat and Nyn got kicked out da game

Eldrick is posting a lot

Zander not posting as much as expected

Darthe not caring as usual

Calder being Calder

Dice is town

Notbob hates Eldrick

Amega/Cass/Pral left no impression

All you say here is that I talk a lot. Nothing to comment here.

Yep. Just a summary post.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow I got a lot of questions last night after bed time.

So, ima try and touch on a few of those but in the mean time I formally declare that eldrick is gonna flip wolf this game.

Discuss.

Ok, you know what.

You've decided

Notbob has decided

Zander has decided

Random has decided

I don't know why I even bother. It's like I don't even exist.

I have my vote on Eldrick, but have remained open to shifting if someone can sell me on something better.

My problem is that I am not being into the Random argument right now. Find it nitpicky.

That is a problem. A bigger problem is ive not seen your charm yet calder, where you at b?

Dont worry yourself. My charm is scattered all over the 30+ pages you didnt read.

You make a compelling argument, and yet I sense thats not the whole story.

I actually found myself as charming as ever this game. However, my excitement has dimmed since of the 3 people I played heavily off of during this overall fun D1...two are kicked out (manbat and Nyn) and the other is on pure defense (Sooh).

Making matters worse I do believe Eldrick Nd by transitive property Sooh is prob scum.

Post where you mention I'm scum, and therefore Sooh is too.

 

Still nothing that I would be commenting on.

[Sooh]

 

Calder, you never had an open mind. I haven't seen you re-evaluating anything from my slot since you said you would. Please prove me wrong, but I believe you have decided you think we're scum, and nothing I can say or do, or Eldrick can say or do, is going to convince you otherwise.

^^^^Refer above to the post Eldrick made that I took issue with and voted him for.

 

Find me something that is worse than that and I will switch. But, this thread is pretty shut down. A ton of inactivity.

 

"worse"?

 

In your experience, are scums obvious D1? Or do they  stand back and let town destroy themselves?

 

You go find something "worse".

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow I got a lot of questions last night after bed time.

So, ima try and touch on a few of those but in the mean time I formally declare that eldrick is gonna flip wolf this game.

Discuss.

Ok, you know what.

You've decided

Notbob has decided

Zander has decided

Random has decided

I don't know why I even bother. It's like I don't even exist.

I have my vote on Eldrick, but have remained open to shifting if someone can sell me on something better.

My problem is that I am not being into the Random argument right now. Find it nitpicky.

That is a problem. A bigger problem is ive not seen your charm yet calder, where you at b?

Dont worry yourself. My charm is scattered all over the 30+ pages you didnt read.

You make a compelling argument, and yet I sense thats not the whole story.

I actually found myself as charming as ever this game. However, my excitement has dimmed since of the 3 people I played heavily off of during this overall fun D1...two are kicked out (manbat and Nyn) and the other is on pure defense (Sooh).Making matters worse I do believe Eldrick Nd by transitive property Sooh is prob scum.

 

Can you explain this please?

I dont understand why your asking this. It feels odd considering my vote has been on him for awhile.

He is generating a lot of content, yet seems more concerned with maintaining a town persona than hunting.

This is the SMH post I remember. That you aren't seeing my work at hunting scum.

 

It was so ridiculous that I just kept on reading. Wasn't even worth a reply.

[Eldrick4221]

And there you have it. Sorry for the untrimmed posts but too much hassle.

 

Besides the one post you made about "trying to give a towny persona" there wasn't anything to respond to.

 

What were you expecting of me?

[Zander?]

 

Btw, Monstr last night was almost verbatum of his last scum game on Mafia Universe, even down to him being worried about me pocketing him.

Curious for a link on that.

 

Also Cass has been generally villagery so far. Doing pretty much everything I expect town!Cass to, can't hate it.

 

 

Will be looking for this link upon catch up as well.

[Calder]

 

 

Calder, you never had an open mind. I haven't seen you re-evaluating anything from my slot since you said you would. Please prove me wrong, but I believe you have decided you think we're scum, and nothing I can say or do, or Eldrick can say or do, is going to convince you otherwise.

 

^^^^Refer above to the post Eldrick made that I took issue with and voted him for.

Find me something that is worse than that and I will switch. But, this thread is pretty shut down. A ton of inactivity.

"worse"?

 

In your experience, are scums obvious D1? Or do they  stand back and let town destroy themselves?

 

You go find something "worse".

There is no standard "scum" strategy and it is poor form to suggest as such. Bc according to your logic above the scum could only be in this group:

 

NotBob

Pral

Amega

Shad

 

But scum dont always sit back. Most scum teams have a mix of active and lower level posters. So just odd statement.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

That Random list looked fine. Dont like the votes it drew.

Eldrick is prob a wolf. Agree with NotBob. Also Zander really does not feel town at all, but it is early.

First game related post involving me.

Agreeing with Notbob that I'm scum. He didn't give a decent reason. I grilled him on that to no effect. You agreed with his stance also without a reason.

So I should have grilled you too?

Yes you should have. Be consistent. Bc I battle in thread. Always do. Why go for the person with a lower thresd presence but not me?

Lesson learned.

 

And you answer your question battling isn't typically my thing. I tend to point out things I notice so other townies can be aware of them. Direct confrontation is not my forte'

 

Notbob just pushed my buttons.

[Calder]

And there you have it. Sorry for the untrimmed posts but too much hassle.

Besides the one post you made about "trying to give a towny persona" there wasn't anything to respond to.

What were you expecting of me?

You were fair. I appreciate taking the time. I wanted you to post and admit that my vote post legit called out a post of yours and went unacknowledged.

 

It is a post that comes from scum way more than town in my experience. So that is where I place my flag today.

[Eldrick4221]

And Darthe lol

[Calder]

And Darthe lol

Lol. Your prob right. I almost included him. But, he has pushed buttons when in thread and he is actually more active slightly than the last game.

[Darthe]

 

 

Usually I find that Pral has a lot of good insight when he's town, so I'm quoting this for posterity (that is if anyone ever bothers to read my posts again).

 

Seriously though, Pral is SMART guys.

 

 

Thanks for the vote of confidence

 

(I hope you are not trying to pocket me, lol)

Maybe, but as long as the pocket sits on a townie I guess we're ok.

This post weirds me out and I have no idea why

[Eldrick4221]

 

And there you have it. Sorry for the untrimmed posts but too much hassle.

Besides the one post you made about "trying to give a towny persona" there wasn't anything to respond to.

What were you expecting of me?

You were fair. I appreciate taking the time. I wanted you to post and admit that my vote post legit called out a post of yours and went unacknowledged.

 

It is a post that comes from scum way more than town in my experience. So that is where I place my flag today.

While you are wrong in your reasoning, I don't have a problem with the vote if that is your reason for it. It was a really bad post.

[Zander?]

The clock strikes 1 and I'm committing to being done.

 

Leaving off top of p50, shouldn't be crazy to finish catching up tomorrow if y'all don't go nuts in the meantime. I'll try to sneak an hour in during the day. <_<

 

I would really like to see a full reads list with reasoning.

 

Youve been posting but Im not feeling it from you yet.

 

No genuine frustration or confusion, Im not seeing those really strong questions/probes/comments yet that me go WOW never thought o fit like that.

 

And its a little worrisome.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

Usually I find that Pral has a lot of good insight when he's town, so I'm quoting this for posterity (that is if anyone ever bothers to read my posts again).

 

Seriously though, Pral is SMART guys.

 

Thanks for the vote of confidence :wub:

 

(I hope you are not trying to pocket me, lol)

Maybe, but as long as the pocket sits on a townie I guess we're ok.

This post weirds me out and I have no idea why

 

I thought you were scum reading us. Should give you all the why you need.

[Darthe]

K I'm done with this for now, I wanna look in to calder, shad, that laya post, and cass some. Elseicjs just taking too much conversation and I'm not progressing for it.

[Zander?]

You really don't have a grasp on the setup, do you Zander?

 

The 24 hours before the game started, between getting roles and game start. The time when the Mafia team was to decide which optional roles to add (including recruitment of the traitor), then 0-2 vanilla townies would obtain powers to balance.

 

The fact that you seem to think the mafia is still looking for the traitor actually makes me think you're town.

 

The fact you think this makes me think youre Scum.

 

I asked AJ and its in the sample role pm's.

 

Mafia dont know who the traitor it the traitor knows who the Scum are tho.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Usually I find that Pral has a lot of good insight when he's town, so I'm quoting this for posterity (that is if anyone ever bothers to read my posts again).

 

Seriously though, Pral is SMART guys.

Thanks for the vote of confidence :wub:

 

(I hope you are not trying to pocket me, lol)

Maybe, but as long as the pocket sits on a townie I guess we're ok.

This post weirds me out and I have no idea why

I thought you were scum reading us. Should give you all the why you need.

Yeah you're a wolf. When does town sooh ever make this kind of leap? She simply doesnt, and you know all too well that a wolf read isnt equal to every post being wolfy.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

Eldrick has far outpaced any version of his wolf game I've ever seen

So

/shrug

Megapeek

Bad reason. I'm always a high volume poster. This is null.

This post was aids to me btw. My scum partners in past games have shown the same need to inform people of when a town read is based off bad reasons. They seem to think it will make them look more towny.

It doesnt. It makes you look like your main concern is trying to look townie. So I will be voting Eldrick for now.

[v]Eldrick[/v]

Post that came with your vote. Nothing to dispute. It WAS a bad post. Talking about my own meta is a habit I need to break.

I do it as town. Have done it several times in the past. When I play, I don't think about myself as me, if that makes any sense.

 

When people say something that I am able to correct, I do. Sometimes that is self meta.

 

I act the same way when someone makes a comment involving me. I don't think about that I am the recipient of the reply.

 

E.g. notbob's response to not wanting to Cop sock. NotBob read sock as scum. It didn't make sense for Notbob to not want to view sock.

[Cass]

Lost tab with quote but @Random

 

wrt reads list:

 

What, exactly, made you lean scum on Monstr at the time of his removal from the game?

 

Why didn't you vote him?

 

and copy-paste question from earlier that got missed

 

 

"Why are you surprised Dice's venom isn't directed at you here? Have you specifically tested his reaction for that?

 

Also, you don't actually explain there why you read him Town. Ie there is no discernable reasoning til that point. "

 

but, for context, you tell Darthe you gave reasons.

 

 

FTR so far I change my lean on this list at least 356876794 times every time I read it!