Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

Zander? · November 29, 2016

Or that. Sure. Lunch us. Let shad stay quiet. Good plan z

Oh dont worry Shad's not just gonna slank by.

Sooh · November 29, 2016

What's this talk of trains!? As far as I know we had two votes.

We do. And that's the most. I've seen games go to eod with top train being 2.

I don't even understand why you're worried. It's like more than a day to EOD.

Like, what is this?

randomh3r0 · November 29, 2016

The talk of trains was simply how quickly Eldrick jumped on Shad after Zander. I'm not ready to vote you guys yet, but that certainly didn't look like a great vote, especially with Sooh contradicting it.

Sooh · November 29, 2016

The talk of trains was simply how quickly Eldrick jumped on Shad after Zander. I'm not ready to vote you guys yet, but that certainly didn't look like a great vote, especially with Sooh contradicting it.

What about us not agreeing makes it "especially not great"?

Eldrick4221 · November 29, 2016

Not used to hydra. Very trigger happy with my vote. Should have discussed with her first.

Zander? · November 29, 2016

The talk of trains was simply how quickly Eldrick jumped on Shad after Zander. I'm not ready to vote you guys yet, but that certainly didn't look like a great vote, especially with Sooh contradicting it.

What about us not agreeing makes it "especially not great"?

Well the fact you guys are airing it out itt for 1 imo.

Eldrick4221 · November 29, 2016

Or that. Sure. Lunch us. Let shad stay quiet. Good plan z

Oh dont worry Shad's not just gonna slank by.

Thats exactly what will happen. You removed the pressure.

Sooh · November 29, 2016

The talk of trains was simply how quickly Eldrick jumped on Shad after Zander. I'm not ready to vote you guys yet, but that certainly didn't look like a great vote, especially with Sooh contradicting it.

What about us not agreeing makes it "especially not great"?

Well the fact you guys are airing it out itt for 1 imo.

Again

Why is that WORSE than anything else?

Zander? · November 29, 2016

Or that. Sure. Lunch us. Let shad stay quiet. Good plan z

Oh dont worry Shad's not just gonna slank by.

Thats exactly what will happen. You removed the pressure.

As either alignment Shad knows hes gotta step it up.

Again as either alignment Shad knows Im not gonna let that go as either alignment myself.

Zander? · November 29, 2016

The talk of trains was simply how quickly Eldrick jumped on Shad after Zander. I'm not ready to vote you guys yet, but that certainly didn't look like a great vote, especially with Sooh contradicting it.

What about us not agreeing makes it "especially not great"?

Well the fact you guys are airing it out itt for 1 imo.

Again

Why is that WORSE than anything else?

Its just something else in a series of Scummy moves imo.

Its how Id play if I was Scum and my Scummate made a bad looking vote.

Sooh · November 29, 2016

The talk of trains was simply how quickly Eldrick jumped on Shad after Zander. I'm not ready to vote you guys yet, but that certainly didn't look like a great vote, especially with Sooh contradicting it.

What about us not agreeing makes it "especially not great"?

Well the fact you guys are airing it out itt for 1 imo.

Again

Why is that WORSE than anything else?

Its just something else in a series of Scummy moves imo.

Its how Id play if I was Scum and my Scummate made a bad looking vote.

Did you ever take into account that I'm not you.

Also I still don't get why us showing exactly how we're thinking is BAD for the thread, or for us as a hydra. That makes ZERO sense

Zander? · November 29, 2016

I know your not me.

But the move would be a likely one in that scenario imo.

Its bad because it makes it easy as a Scum hydra to fence sit by one person reading someone one way and the other another.

I get that it will happen to Town Hydra's too but I feel its less likely to bleed out into the thread.

But its not a big thing, like I said its just another brick in the wall so to speak.

Zander? · November 29, 2016

I know your not me.

But the move would be a likely one in that scenario imo.

Its bad because it makes it easy as a Scum hydra to fence sit by one person reading someone one way and the other another.

I get that it will happen to Town Hydra's too but I feel its less likely to bleed out into the thread.

But its not a big thing, like I said its just another brick in the wall so to speak.

you're

Verbal'd

Sooh · November 29, 2016

I know your not me.

But the move would be a likely one in that scenario imo.

Its bad because it makes it easy as a Scum hydra to fence sit by one person reading someone one way and the other another.

I get that it will happen to Town Hydra's too but I feel its less likely to bleed out into the thread.

But its not a big thing, like I said its just another brick in the wall so to speak.

I don't even know why I'm expecting you to ever reconsider anything in a mafia game. It's like a freight train. If you start on a track you have to finish.

Eldrick4221 · November 29, 2016

The reason for the vote was literally for more pressure. 1 vote means nothing.

I was asked if I would be ok with the vote leading to a lynch. Explained that too.

[unvote] because of the aforementioned 1 vote meaning nothing.

I want to see shad contribute. He is slanking imo.

That won't happen with 1 vote.

randomh3r0 · November 29, 2016

The talk of trains was simply how quickly Eldrick jumped on Shad after Zander. I'm not ready to vote you guys yet, but that certainly didn't look like a great vote, especially with Sooh contradicting it.

What about us not agreeing makes it "especially not great"?

This:

Not used to hydra. Very trigger happy with my vote. Should have discussed with her first.

It's not pure condemnation material of it's own, but it seems like votes should be something you come to a consensus on unless one of you is offline.

Darthe · November 29, 2016

Ok, nobody in current wants to talk, so I'll go back and ISO.

I'll start from the bottom up.

Happy to talk, Sooh. What's on your mind?

Well, that's what I'm trying to find out. Like people have said, I haven't contributed with too many reads.

Can you talk to me about Cass/Monstr?

Monstr was the first player I put pressure on, and he really did not react well. It was his interaction with me, failing to give reasons for listing his "core group of likely townies" and only asking those 5ish players for input on others, that made me start to dig into him a bit. Of course, his answers and interactions with Nyn ended up leading to his removal, and since Cass has come in, has done fairly well at getting some gameplay going. My read based on Monstr was leaning scum, so when I posted my list, i kept cass there, as she hadn't posted much. I'm leaning null right now because she's done a bit to balance it out, and I like her posts / questions, so we'll see. The initial suss on monstr could've been due to him having a play-style that just didn't sit well with me, and his avoiding my questions. On her own merits, cass is alright so far.

This is actually a good post. I like to see when a player has a good mind for their history and rationale over time. Or maybe it's just envy

randomh3r0 · November 29, 2016

Ok, nobody in current wants to talk, so I'll go back and ISO.

I'll start from the bottom up.

Happy to talk, Sooh. What's on your mind?

Well, that's what I'm trying to find out. Like people have said, I haven't contributed with too many reads.

Can you talk to me about Cass/Monstr?

Monstr was the first player I put pressure on, and he really did not react well. It was his interaction with me, failing to give reasons for listing his "core group of likely townies" and only asking those 5ish players for input on others, that made me start to dig into him a bit. Of course, his answers and interactions with Nyn ended up leading to his removal, and since Cass has come in, has done fairly well at getting some gameplay going. My read based on Monstr was leaning scum, so when I posted my list, i kept cass there, as she hadn't posted much. I'm leaning null right now because she's done a bit to balance it out, and I like her posts / questions, so we'll see. The initial suss on monstr could've been due to him having a play-style that just didn't sit well with me, and his avoiding my questions. On her own merits, cass is alright so far.

This is actually a good post. I like to see when a player has a good mind for their history and rationale over time. Or maybe it's just envy

Christ... I don't know what to do with a compliment from Darthe. Am I dead?

Darthe · November 29, 2016

Dice (Nyn) - I agree with Cass that I don't think Nyn would go so far as scum. It hasn't been that long since I was scum alongside her, and this is not a side of her I remember from that game at all.As for Dice, it makes me scared to make a decision either way there yet. I would say that initial feelings have been positive so far
Did people think Nyn actually went too far? All she did was tell Manbat the truth. He has the right to try and take charge. But, he got pissy when people werent having it. She was right.

I never said "too far". I said "so far". This has nothing to do with her being in the right or the wrong, and everything to do with the strength of her reaction, which I believe wouldn't be this strong if her slot was scum.

Plz don't make me reread

Eldrick4221 · November 29, 2016

It's not pure condemnation material of it's own, but it seems like votes should be something you come to a consensus on unless one of you is offline.

I get that. I do. I am very trigger happy and say what comes to mind, though. It's a tough habit to break.

Zander? · November 29, 2016

Pral/Amega/Shad

Need to setup asap

Zander? · November 29, 2016

stepup

#wordsarehard

Sooh · November 29, 2016

Dice (Nyn) - I agree with Cass that I don't think Nyn would go so far as scum. It hasn't been that long since I was scum alongside her, and this is not a side of her I remember from that game at all.As for Dice, it makes me scared to make a decision either way there yet. I would say that initial feelings have been positive so far
Did people think Nyn actually went too far? All she did was tell Manbat the truth. He has the right to try and take charge. But, he got pissy when people werent having it. She was right.
I never said "too far". I said "so far". This has nothing to do with her being in the right or the wrong, and everything to do with the strength of her reaction, which I believe wouldn't be this strong if her slot was scum.

Plz don't make me reread

*makes Darthe reread*

Darthe · November 29, 2016

鲍勃不是我的名字, or NotBob -

This initial series of posts are so void of thought process I don't quite know what to make of them.

Vote Manbat.

Could also vote Eldrick.

Nyce looks naughty. So yeah.

Vote Manbat.

Could also vote Eldrick.

Nyce looks naughty. So yeah.

K why

Jelly.

Vote Manbat.

Could also vote Eldrick.

Nyce looks naughty. So yeah.

Hey Notbob

[unvote] Summoning a success!

Why would you vote me?

I like to vote scum.

unvote

vote Eldrick

You're a perpetually tough read. Can you explain your votes a bit?

Not inclined at the moment. Basically, I like to vote scum and Manbat and Eldrick are at the top of my list.

Who's in your wallet?

The only thing I'm left with is finding the motivation to post these posts.

As a townie, I think this isn't very constructive type posts, except for gauging reactions I suppose.

As a scumbag, I don't see the need to do so. It's D1, and the odds are significantly greater we lynch a townie than a scum to begin with, and leaving open votes without attempting to explain, not even when prompted, is risky behavior for a scum. Remember, it's far worse for the scum team to lose a member early than for town.

As a traitor I also don't see the need to point quite so clear signs towards yourself, that is assuming there's still a traitor in the game.

Yay Cass!

[v]Cass

50% chance of scum :D

Another reason. Change of subject.

This feels almost like taunting.

I know scum when read it.
You clearly don't. What have I said that made you think that?

I want your reasoning known so if you instigate my mislynch, you can be held accountable for your vote.

Trust me, I'm held accountable. Do you regularly get this defensive over one vote?

Suggests to me that this was a reaction test.

@ Eldrick I think I showed up from catch-up with some confirmation bias but would still have you in my top towns independently.

The constant thread presence is alluring vs the weirdness is null.

If we lynch Eldrick we lynch scum. FOS for trying to derail this train. You will be held accountable once he flips.

NotBob is probably just a townie who's having some fun this game.

Look at the time stamps:

I just saw Dream Theater and it was amazing. Im not reading 35 pages tonight, maybe ever. Any one wanna catch ne up?

looks like eldrick and cass' slot at this point.

I wanna get Sooh's input before I put a serious vote down, but am leaning Notbob.
Why specifically Sooh/NotBob?

Tell me to go ISO if you're jack of my tunnel-vision already and it's already in thread, this is just easier for me atp :p

Has NotBob been scummy or just quiet/absent?

Neither. maybe you should just go back and read...or take the easy path and join me on Eldrick...together we can rid this thread of scum.

First scums are Cass and us, then petitioning Cass to vote for us.

To answer Darthe, here's my current-game reasons for leaning town on Dice:

oh no i didnt screw up thought id quoted monstr too

@monstr dont get lost in ATE bro stay with us.

re monstrs core he asked people he has meta with is how i looked at it and whose responses he was happy with. It is a common thing to ask opinions of people you are trusting or who are on the same wavelength as you.

He gave a clear, concise defense of someone I was beginning to FOS. He didn't jump onto a train, he provided information I had asked for and needed to make a decision, and that just feels town at this point in the game. HIs comment and subsequent dealings with Zander:

@monstr Nyce is Town. Simple.

Notice tho that I voted Zander and he hasnt said a WORD about it despite replying to things posted after it.

Combined with Zander's OMGUS vote on me after my first reads list makes me wonder if my town lean on Dice following this exchange didn't ruffle his feathers. Feeling a bit more confident on my Zander read too.

For Sooh, most of her posts were before and at page 21, and looked like this:

@Sooh

& mustard has no calories. It sells itself. Delicious and great for the waistline. It cant be.

mmmm more mustard for me plz

I can't base a read off that, so I went on what I had with the other head of the hydra.

For Calder, his activity ceases around the same time. Most of it is regarding sandwiches and whatnot, but that's how he started last game as well. his few game related posts didn't give me huge vibes either way, but it's an early D1 read.

What troubles me is both Zander AND Darthe's snap votes on me. Sure Darthe asked questions, and him claiming he won't read is both false and perfectly in line with his play, but Zander literally said he just did it as OMGUS, which seems a bad reason when responding to an entire reads list. Zander also doesn't seem the type to just vote when town and scum hunting, he's well-spoken enough to create a case or at least an FOS

Vote Zander

Good vote.

CFD on Zander anyone?

And now Zander.

This sort of erratic behavior is generally not something I associate with scums. They tend to be at least attempting to make logical arguments and show their " thought process" while NotBob is flat out refusing to show what he's doing or thinking. I believe, incredibly enough, that NotBob is town.

That's quite a big post to say "we aren't on the same team"

Darthe · November 29, 2016

Pral/Amega/Shad

Need to setup asap

What if this was the wolf team?

Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

Recommended Posts

Archived

Stay Connected

Forum Topics

News items

About Dragonmount

Twitter

Facebook