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Well, indulge me for one second. Can you pick a couple of posts and say what they make you think?

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He was the last member from the Grand Central crew that was still connected, but with Nikon's net severed, Joey's computer crashing and Crash's sudden departure he felt very alone in his attempts to wreck havoc and very much exposed. The Gibson crew was already honing on his IP address while the team of US Special Agents were racing through the terminals towards them. His pursuers found him at the same time. His connection dropped just as a burly man in a suit pulled up and pointed a pistol straight at him, other men quickly detaining the rest of the crew as well.

 

"Hands up, dirt bag!"

 

Dice was arrested.

 

He was:

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It is now Day 6.

 

Votes are locked.

 

2 to lynch

Eldrick4221 Master

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You brought interaction level to my attention. Yes shad had a lot of interaction with me. Interaction with you is almost nonexistent.

 

 

  On 11/29/2016 at 4:20 AM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/29/2016 at 4:15 AM, Darthe said:

Ive seen them twice now, big fan.How are notbob, sooh, and eldrick iyo?

I don't know how to read NB and I just said Sock is villagery.Would be nice if you actually skimmed the thread instead of asking me. -_-

Responded to your question about his reads on Notbob and sock.

 

"Summons" you by naming you. Doesn't ask you anything because you aren't caught up yet.

 

The fluff conversation  about dream theater.

 

Points out which posts were his on page 163 irt you calling the whole page incomprehensible.

 

 

  On 11/30/2016 at 6:10 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/30/2016 at 6:03 PM, Darthe said:

I dont know why im being called apathetic, im here and working on reads pretty actively

 

Effort for you typically consists of popping in for snap reads on the last five pages of posts without any real context.  :dry:   Only time I've seen you try hard since Dragon Reborn you were a wolf.

Closest shad comes to looking like he's trying to figure you out. Meta read comparing your effort level. Actually comes off as high effort = scum.

 

 

  On 11/30/2016 at 5:40 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/30/2016 at 5:25 PM, Zander said:

I would really like to see a full reads list with reasoning. Youve been posting but Im not feeling it from you yet. No genuine frustration or confusion, Im not seeing those really strong questions/probes/comments yet that me go WOW never thought o fit like that. And its a little worrisome.

I haven't been frustrated because I'm controlling my play time better and people aren't grilling me for stupid reasons. It's quite refreshing actually.Cass is fine Dice is probably fine you've looked a lot better than you did in the first 24 hours. Darthe's apathetic which is annoying but typical for his town game. NotBob's been a lot more active than his last wolf game.I stand by Sooh's tone being villagery but it's a lot harder for me to read her when she's being defensive and I hope to see scum hunting in the posts I've yet to read.amega and Pral don't exist.Felt like Random has been misrepping things and I'm curious how Calder responded to my question irt his Eldrick/Sooh reads.Need to focus on reading more talking less.

Shad's read list. Read on Darthe is weak.

 

 

TL;DR Shad's interaction with Darthe doesn't even have a premise of trying to solve him.

 

He never asked Darthe game related questions. He only responds to Darthe's one question about reads on Notbob and sock.

 

He puts Darthe in as a Town read for apathectic!Darthe = town!Darthe

Eldrick4221 Master

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  On 12/10/2016 at 6:00 PM, Darthe said:

I'm seriously waiting on a response to that.

 

What exactly am I supposed to be responding to?

 

All you did was quote stuff.

Eldrick4221 Master

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  On 12/10/2016 at 6:48 PM, Pralaya said:

For example, I started reading Shad's scum games from the past. One thing stuck out. Shad typically does not interact with his scum mates for a long time. THere could be one or two replies to his scummates, but largely he talks to others. There was even a game where he was scum with Zander and he didn't interact with him for a long time!http://www.dmwwdb.net/players.php?p=517Beyond the WallGhostbustersTown of SalemFriends

I love how that's what caught your attention too.

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I could go into bfg's ISO. Pull out all the points that she tried to get pral lynched over. The amount of effort there is why I thought they weren't teammates.

 

But I don't have anyone to convince of that point anymore.

 

Day has started.

 

And there is only 2 ways for this to go.

 

1. Darthe is scum.

 

2. Darthe is town and will vote us.

 

 

If Pral is scum, he already won.

 

Pral, if you are town, and need me to keep posting stuff for why I think it's darthe, I will.

 

[V]Darthe [/v]

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  On 12/10/2016 at 11:13 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/10/2016 at 6:48 PM, Pralaya said:

For example, I started reading Shad's scum games from the past. One thing stuck out. Shad typically does not interact with his scum mates for a long time. THere could be one or two replies to his scummates, but largely he talks to others. There was even a game where he was scum with Zander and he didn't interact with him for a long time!http://www.dmwwdb.net/players.php?p=517Beyond the WallGhostbustersTown of SalemFriends

I love how that's what caught your attention too.

 

You said nothing caught your attention in the Shad ISO, and I mentioned this myself first.  

Darthe Spam Master

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Btw, I'd shoot myself if I didn't point this last thing out so here.  Eldrick just said in his last post "why I THINK it's Darthe" as iif he doesn't know, which he would if he were town.

 

  On 12/10/2016 at 11:20 PM, Eldrick4221 said:


If Pral is scum, he already won.

Pral, if you are town, and need me to keep posting stuff for why I think it's darthe, I will.

[V]Darthe [/v]

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  On 12/10/2016 at 11:38 PM, Darthe said:

 

Btw, I'd shoot myself if I didn't point this last thing out so here.  Eldrick just said in his last post "why I THINK it's Darthe" as iif he doesn't know, which he would if he were town.

 

  On 12/10/2016 at 11:20 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

If Pral is scum, he already won.

 

Pral, if you are town, and need me to keep posting stuff for why I think it's darthe, I will.

 

[V]Darthe [/v]

 

Eh?

 

Afaik we still had two options coming into today. How would we KNOW it's one over the other? All we can do is go with what we THINK is correct. 

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  On 12/10/2016 at 11:31 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/10/2016 at 11:13 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/10/2016 at 6:48 PM, Pralaya said:

For example, I started reading Shad's scum games from the past. One thing stuck out. Shad typically does not interact with his scum mates for a long time. THere could be one or two replies to his scummates, but largely he talks to others. There was even a game where he was scum with Zander and he didn't interact with him for a long time!http://www.dmwwdb.net/players.php?p=517Beyond the WallGhostbustersTown of SalemFriends

 

I love how that's what caught your attention too.

You said nothing caught your attention in the Shad ISO, and I mentioned this myself first.

Yes. You mentioned interaction level first. So I looked for it regarding you. It doesn't exist on any relevant level, as detailed in my post about his interactions with you.

 

You still have yet to give a reason why him interacting with me and Sooh is bad.

Eldrick4221 Master

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  On 12/10/2016 at 6:00 PM, Darthe said:

I'm seriously waiting on a response to that.

 

 
  On 12/5/2016 at 1:25 AM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/4/2016 at 11:25 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

 
  On 12/5/2016 at 1:39 AM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 1:30 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 1:25 AM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/4/2016 at 11:25 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.
In what world is that a slip?

Last game. You vote dice. Verb and leelou pile on. They win.

This game. You vote us. Scum pile on. They win.

I see it happening.

Omg he did it twice. 

Youre admitting here thqt you know im town.  You're excluding me as seperate from the category defined as wolves.  This is so clear!

 

Misrep #1.

 

Started with the hypothetical "I see a world where", comparing this game to Nyn's game that just finished.

 

Clearly (IMO) assuming town for the context of comparing games.

 

He took it out of hypothetical context and acted like it was TMI.

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  On 12/6/2016 at 3:33 AM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/6/2016 at 3:25 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/6/2016 at 3:13 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 7:18 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Bfg/dice doesn't make sense for the vc though. Why would scum!dice care if he was on town!Pral or town!cass?

 

What does this have to do with BFG?

Because I've narrowed it to dice/pral/bfg

If it's dice and bfg that means Pral is town.

And like I said scum!dice moving from one town train to another doesn't make sense. What's the motivation?

Yesterday Eldrick is okay with voting Laya or cass, he doesn't even care which.

 

Today you're saying Laya is town?  If not for my last game I'd already be voting you.

 
  On 12/9/2016 at 4:13 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/8/2016 at 2:21 AM, Darthe said:

There it is.  If those three are all town then this game is over.

 

After I voted.

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Bfg (2): Pral, sock

 

  On 12/8/2016 at 2:23 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

It's a good sign that you aren't jumping on tbh.

 

  On 12/8/2016 at 2:23 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

One of bfg/pral/Darthe is scum.

If we are all 3 town, Darthe would have just voted.

This is with the viewpoint of us being wrong, bfg being town, and all scum had to do was hammer and win. That didn't happen, so either bfg was scum, or Darthe was town.

 

  On 12/8/2016 at 2:25 AM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/8/2016 at 2:23 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

One of bfg/pral/Darthe is scum.

If we are all 3 town, Darthe would have just voted.

Assuming that you're town, that is.

Darthe's response for context.

 

  On 12/8/2016 at 2:26 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

Yes, but the fact that you pointed it out instead of just voting says to me it's not that we are all town and you are scum.

My response. The response that has produced the confusion. The word "not" is the integral part of the post.

Because he didn't just vote, the setup is NOT that we are all 3 town and Darthe is scum. Because he didn't vote right away, if bfg was town, Darthe probably was too.

 
  On 12/9/2016 at 4:01 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/9/2016 at 3:51 AM, Darthe said:

You literally were giving me town credit for my vote timing yesterday at EoD before the flip, and now that she flipped wolf you're saying it was null??

The town credit was literally only if she flipped town because you held off.

Being she flipped scum, the reason for the town credit is null.

 
  On 12/9/2016 at 4:16 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

And to reiterate, the town cred for not voting right away was only if she was town, as I clearly stated when I said it.

Misrep #3.

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Misrep #2.

 

At the time, I had it narrowed down to dice/pral/bfg containing the last 2 scum.

 

If 2 were scum, 1 was obviously town.

 

Darthe brought up the point that I was wtv between Cass and pral the day before and didn't care which. Because I thought they were both scum.

 

Once Cass flipped town, I had to reconsider. So I considered all the groups between the 3 I thought the scum were in.

 

Darthe jumps on the one I talked about that had pral as town. Because it's apparently scummy to reconsider my view with new information.

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Point of that misrep is he is ignoring the situations where I consider pral as scum. Only goes after the one where I reconsidered my read by looking at if bfg/dice made sense.

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Third misrep has to do with before and after bfg flip.

 

The fact that darthe waited to vote would have looked good if bfg was town.

 

That if the train was 2 townies on a Town train, scum could just jump on and finish.

 

The fact that he didn't would look good IF bfg was town.

 

It was clearly a conditional town cred. Bfg was scum. Town cred was moot.

 

Darthe got on my case about the town cred even though it was clearly dependant on bfg being town.

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