Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Eldrick4221]

Interesting BFG hasant been hammered yet imo

Needs 4 votes. Doesn't mean anything that 1 vote didn't lead to hammer.

 

(FYI, exactly why I'm again at no lynch)

[Eldrick4221]

Against*

[Eldrick4221]

My sister is being induced today. She's having her baby!

 

My focus will be on that, but I will check in here too.

[Andrej]

Congrats Eldrick!

[Sooh]

My sister is being induced today. She's having her baby!

 

My focus will be on that, but I will check in here too.

 

I'll hold down the fort. Maybe. 

 

I have to sleep at some point very soon though.

[Sooh]

Congrats Eldrick!

@ mod since I'm a slowpoke, when does the phase end?

[Andrej]

Day ends in 4 hours.

[Eldrick4221]

Thanks :)

 

I'm gonna be an uncle :DD

[Sooh]

Day ends in 4 hours.

Ugh.

 

That sucks.

[Eldrick4221]

You say that like it would make a difference. It would be while you're sleeping either way.

[Sooh]

Catching up real quick.

[Sooh]

Scum Pral thinks to drop a fake claim? Is that what people are thinking?

[dicetosser1]

Dice, what are your reads?

 

sucky. i find it surprising that you havent been piled on which makes me think you are scum. Also possible is that pral is scum and trying a bit of a gambit.

 

Interesting BFG hasant been hammered yet imo

 

agreed  see above

[Sooh]

Wolf me would want to create a thread environment that made it impossible to vote me, to harass and belittle anyone who read me wolf until everyone was afraid to place their votes. I've simply not done that this game.

 

I could give a ton of self meta, but that's pointless. Just think about the above. You guys have played with me so much, how do you not know by now? I'm not a wolf. I'm just not doing the dog wolf me does.

Oh this post is giving me heebie jeebies all over the place.

[Sooh]

 

Dice, what are your reads?

 

sucky. i find it surprising that you havent been piled on which makes me think you are scum. Also possible is that pral is scum and trying a bit of a gambit.

 

Interesting BFG hasant been hammered yet imo

 

agreed  see above

 

What if they're both scum?

[dicetosser1]

am considering that sooh  her flipping scum doesnt clear pral completely

[Sooh]

 

 

 

I can't really say more than I already have. That his response to Cass flip sounds like a scum reaction.

 

That he preferred it to a random shot, which has a better chance of scum than Cass did.

how do you know random had a better chance of hitting scum then it did cass?

Because she flipped town. Seriously?

 

 

you are talking about my action NEFORE she flipped.  is me moving my vote. Afterwards I told you i moved to avoid random.

 

Now you are saying that Random had a btter chance of hitting scum then of us hitting scum in cass.

 

This is false for a townie. I dont KNOW cass' alignment before her flip. The only people who DO are the scum. So if you know that random had a greater chance of hitting scum between pral and cass then town did by lynching scum then you have to be scum.

 

Did you not go from Pral to Cass?

 

Why was Cass the better lynch?

 

Not sure I buy that "wanted to make sure it didn't rand between all of us", because that has happened exactly once and not with AJ as a mod.

[Sooh]

 

Nothing. Just night things.

 

 

right im going to be voting pral 

 

Again, does scum!Pral think to fake claim here?

 

If he's scum, he knows there are no more PRs to flush out, so why do it?

[Darthe]

 

this better post this time

 

Pretty much every time I read the thread pre_sub Sooh was in the game talking to people and trying to solve, most telling was when she was obviously frustrated and still in game

 

That sounds relatable.  

 

Darthe why didn't you vote Pral last night?

I was indecisive in that, but it wouldn't have mattered anyhow since she wound up with 3 votes to his 1.

 

 

Spooooooky was the last game we played when you were mafia, you were inactive while I was alive and I don't recall you being particularly aggressive after I died (I will admit I didn't follow that closely after I died so may be wrong). I don't think being relatively passive would be out of your mafia range

 

Have you met me before?  I'm Darthe, if I find a weakness in my game I adapt.  This is not a good point from you.

[Sooh]

Darthe? How do you feel about BFG?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

All I am waiting for us if we are deciding no lynch. Else I will vote BFG in an instant

Ive been really zoned in on sock, whats your case here? Tldr it please

Town BFG doesn't lock anyone as scum or town. She constantly questions herself whether her reads are correct. If you look at her read list, she has zander as town right from the beginning without any doubts and me as scum. She shuffles only the ones in between. That is not townBFG.

 

Besides, the reasons she gives out for me as scum or zander as town are very weak. Like she is forcing herself to do so. She is not being as inquisitive as I have seen her usually.

 

Question here, why are we so meta heavy?  Don't you think that there's better stuff in thread to case her on?  In any case, I don't disagree with you that her snap reads on you and Zander have been really poorly maintained.

 

Anyway, I am going to sleep and I am not very sure if I will be up by deadline.

 

So...

 

[v]BFG[/v]

Annd that was sudden.  

 

 

Also I disagree with "if you're aware of it you can fake it". Its been said before and its cinsistently wrong. Even amazing players, who are really self aware, dont emulate their town games perfectly. If they did we would never catch players like cory and tom.

 

you lot never do catch Tom.

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

 

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

 

 

i am NOT having a repeat of last game. thats why im not voting. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

All I am waiting for us if we are deciding no lynch. Else I will vote BFG in an instant

Ive been really zoned in on sock, whats your case here? Tldr it please

Town BFG doesn't lock anyone as scum or town. She constantly questions herself whether her reads are correct. If you look at her read list, she has zander as town right from the beginning without any doubts and me as scum. She shuffles only the ones in between. That is not townBFG.

 

Besides, the reasons she gives out for me as scum or zander as town are very weak. Like she is forcing herself to do so. She is not being as inquisitive as I have seen her usually.

 

 

wrong. She does it to me so much she is the bane of my scum life on this site. She definetly works upto it but once shes gone over you in depth she will lock you in.

 

of course in my case im not locked in for LONG cause she gets me lynched

 

I know you're leaning Laya, but you really need to look at Sock if you're town.  

 

 

 

That you won't give reasons for why or why not people make sense to be scum with your scum read of bfg isn't very towny.

 

If you were town, you should be thinking about that. That you don't have an answer says to me you aren't trying to figure it out.

Just because i have not tried to figure so far doesn't mean I will not try when the time comes. Now, if I make a read, it will always be an associated read with BFG. That's why my vote is not going to be anything else from that

 

When I have more time and when the situation demands, I will look at it. And when I do, I will be open about it

 

 

What happened to no lynch???

 

It was never really gonna happen.  People don't no lynch and given the thread it'd probably just mean spending tomorrow without you anyhow.

[Sooh]

 

Btw dice, your reason for wanting to vote Pral was terribad. His vig soft claim wasn't scummy in the slightest.

 

I have a reason it can be but Ill let Dice answer it.

 

Was this ever answered? I didn't come across it.

[Darthe]

 

 

I think my biggest mistake this game was town reading Darthe because of him consistently going after sock and basically noone else, and for his response to my hypothetical post.

 

The first reason is null and a bad reason to Town read someone.

 

When Darthe took my words out of context the second time, it made me realize the first one wasn't towny.

 

With that in mind, I haven't thought Darthe was town all game before these happened. He was null or lower. He convinced me he was town, and I'm realizing that was a bad read.

 

I think Darthe is scum.

 

I've spent most of the game thinking dice is town. I've had to reconsider when the poe shrunk and I thought I might be wrong. I looked for connections for him to make sense as scum, with varying success. He was in my poe so I compared him with every one that was possible scum to me (Pral and bfg). Neither made enough sense. The reason for town anger makes a lot more sense than scum anger. I was just blinded by my tunnel.

 

I think dice is town.

 

As I said before, BFG has been spending a lot of energy pointing out how dice is town. How his list doesn't make sense to put both his teammates as early town reads. Bfg doesn't make sense to be scum if dice is town.

 

I think bfg is town

 

Zander is the towniest player in the game. Will not be voting there.

 

I think Zander is town

 

CONCLUSION:

 

SCUM IS DARTHE AND PRAL

Look, theres the flip flop! Holy hell man, you went from laya js a wolf with cass, idc who I vote to laya is town, to me questioning it so now we are both wolves?

 

Am I stupid? I cant be the only one who sees this and thinks it's never coming from a townie. Hell, he even bolded for effect to give some urgency.

 

 

I dont think a Wolf is gonna flip flop like this imo.

 

They don't have much choice itg.  You're eating it up, so apparently it works, but I know that if I suddenly was wolf reading cass yesterday you'd be on me like butter on a biscuit.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wolf me would want to create a thread environment that made it impossible to vote me, to harass and belittle anyone who read me wolf until everyone was afraid to place their votes. I've simply not done that this game.

 

I could give a ton of self meta, but that's pointless. Just think about the above. You guys have played with me so much, how do you not know by now? I'm not a wolf. I'm just not doing the dog wolf me does.

This is a joke Darthe, no one is scared of you,

Some definitely are, but that isn't my point. I'm just explaining how wolf me would want to shape the thread.

Your self Meta talk is like psychiatrist talk imo.....

You see what you want to see. Figure it out Z, im not game to lose this because you wanna be rigid.

 

 

 

I don't actually listen to these, you know?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I sense that we aren't collectively going to vote sock today still :/

 

Zander, as w player you're so wasted by your own rigidity. You got your lynch and it was wrong, you got your evidence, but you can't let go of your biases enough to figure it out. Like I said, a waste.

Aren't you playing similar w.r.t sock?

Maybe, but the difference is im gonna be right.

Just like you claimed in PoTC you were right about me!?!?!

 

Cause youre doing the same thing here irt Sock imo.

Oh look a past game, I'm sure that will man something to me.

 

Different games make different situations and it is balony to try and invalidate my read based on "well youve been wrong before". Ironic given yesterday.

My point is i was wrong on Cass right on Shad what are you at thus far?

 

Thats my point.

 

Just because I was wrong on Cass dont mean im wrong on my other reads man.

It doesnt make me wrong that ive not caught a wolf yet either. How often am I this adamantly set on a read, and that read never take off? Its not happened in my memory (faulty though that may be). Theres a reason for that, and it isnt just your opposition. Eldrick is being carried and that needs to crack.

 

 

Well me in PoTC comes to mind, um seph in a couple straight games when he came back, I wanna say Mafia Karts was one but i may be wrong....

 

Micheal Jordan missed a game winning basket 38 times in his career.  

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Vote Count 4.01

 

Not voting: Everyone

 

Votes are locked as the game is in MyLo.

Dont forget this!!!!!

 

I dont think ive ever played a game with locked votes.

Oh, you didn't play in the game where Darthe was scum and me and sooh were in lylo with locked votes and we lost?

 

You know, maybe you should read it. To see how scum darthe plays

Yeah, that would be relevant. Zanders a reader anyhow. Which game is it?

 

 

No i didnt

 

I don't understand this response Z.

[Darthe]

I think he's mafia looking for the last mislynch

Why aren't you voting him then?