Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Zander?]

 

 

 

<3 Dice (I think you're the only player that fears me when scum though )

 

What's your read on me?

 

i like the questions ure asking. sounds like town solvey bfg to me. youre isoing away. tho you arnt coming up with firm thoughts out of them. wish you were here more.  town lean is about as far as i will go atm

 

Dice can you talk about Pral?

 

Has barely been here. i dont really remember a lot of what he has said and i cant get rid of the feeling that i should be voting him but as he didnt say what i thought he did i have no reason for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok this is from CASS but i messed it up

 

 

 

because they are good fairly non committal ways to give someone a town lean. easy to flip on if their town easy to make if their ure scum buddy without being tied to it in bands of steel

 

I was going to respond to Cass' post, but I think Dice nails it here.

 

 

I agree with the start but don't understand how the bold works. @Both of you, how is a 'definitely Town' type read easy to flip on?

 

@Dice, how many times did I use this exact play as scum with Town!you? "Dice is definitely Town!Dice!" You also know that it's a thing.

 

 

I DO know its a thing but you and I are not Shad. Hes trickier then we are. As for how to get away from it??  a post like "i liked when cass was doing this and this  but now shes doing  x  which i dont like and is making me reevaluate

 

flip done

 

 

Dice who you gonna vote for today and why?

 

Its the weekend and your activity level still hasnt really perked up any.

 

Why is this?

 

 

you realise i asked for a hydra for a reason right? Im in 2 games on 2 sites and its the busy end of year at work so im getting slammed and im still a bit crook. thats why i wanted a hydra cause i wasnt sure id be able to be active enuff..

 

im gonna follow my gut. Vote Pral  dont ask me for good reasons for it because i honestly dont have any its just my gut screaming.

 

i MIGHt be able to be here a tiny bit before DL but lunch is over so i dont know for sure. depends on the calls.

 

 

why wont you vote Cass!?!?!?!?!.....

[Cass]

WTL both Cass and pral equally. Think they are the remaining scum team.

 

Cass because shad's consistent town read of her. Because she freaked out when people wouldn't unvote.

 

Pral because of his early scum read on shad. Catching that early doesn't make sense to me.

 

Both because after seeing them c9nmected like this I notice Pral scum reading shad and town reading Cass (classic scum move), and because of the read list I posted that you quoted and colored clumping them into 2 different groups.

 

It all fits together and feels like a game solve.

 

No to this btw.

 

I specifically explained I just needed time to figure stuff out btw. At no point did I try to influence other people's opinions of Shad or Random, 'trying to read Shad Town/lynch the cop', both of you have twisted that event.

[Zander?]

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

 

 

If Eldrick is Town, this is probably Scum Darthe

 

 

Darthe trending down for me

[Eldrick4221]

I'm also sick of fighting you over your read of me. I'm probably just not gonna play a game with you again.

 

"Eldrick is just wolfy" is the reason, and you will see that after I'm lynched or post game. You can't understand that I'm town and never will dealing with you is a headache I'm not gonna put myself through again.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

If Eldrick is Town, this is probably Scum Darthe

Darthe trending down for me

Why?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

In what world is that a slip?

 

Last game. You vote dice. Verb and leelou pile on. They win.

 

This game. You vote us. Scum pile on. They win.

 

I see it happening.

Omg he did it twice.

 

Youre admitting here thqt you know im town. You're excluding me as seperate from the category defined as wolves. This is so clear!

 

 

hmmmmmmm......

[Darthe]

I'm also sick of fighting you over your read of me. I'm probably just not gonna play a game with you again.

 

"Eldrick is just wolfy" is the reason, and you will see that after I'm lynched or post game. You can't understand that I'm town and never will dealing with you is a headache I'm not gonna put myself through again.

This just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If you dont like being wolf read then dont be such a sloppy wolf. Im doing what im supposed to and you're either truly mad or faking being mad because you dont like the result. Either one is bad form.

[Eldrick4221]

Please do lynch me. I don't want another day of fighting with darthe. Have fun at Mylo or LYLO or whatever it's called with 4/2

[Zander?]

 

 

*Headdesk a thousand times for DM formatting*

 

 

Trying to go through and MQ things standing out in batches so you can see where thoughts are coming from exactly, but it keeps dropping stuff as I go, or changing poster names etc.

 

Eldrick and Sooh are working with lots of people which seems good, but everything they suggest seems/feels bad.

 

Darthe's push on Sock is Towny unless the two of them keep finding ways to avoid voting each other.

 

Somebody tell me what Sock's early read of Darthe was pls?

 

Dice does feel like the gif Sooh posted to me a bit, but BFG says that meta's old and the way Sooh posted it, and suggestions of Zander and I as possible WW seem off. I feel like Eldrick and Sooh are just trying to line up all the mislynches they can.

 

Darthe's commentary wrt me is logical but I find it null for his alignment. There are some interactions with BFG particularly I think look like TownDarthetryingtofigureoutBFG pushes. His pushes on Sock match my reads. His sarcasm and some comments make me concerned it's fake across the board and he's pulling strings. This is probably not alignment indicative. He's pushing every which way for reactions.

 

Pral's explanation of his read of me matches the cold logic I imagine he uses generally, and he seems focused simply on that and voting/providing examples of why BFG is scum and that's probably a good thing if you follow CCSoHW theory. Tbqf I also had the same impression of BFG wrt Zander when I looked at her ISO the other day.

 

Zander is trending the line of his scum/Town meta but is probably Town with blinkers on, some of the very recent stuff that shows he's wavering on me at the end of a tunnel is a good look for him.

 

Zander made a really big deal about my early pressure on Amega to come and play, and then him and BFG reading each other the way they have makes me think there's a world where they're possibly WW.

 

BFG's stances on me are worrisome because they seem very fixed? on the idea that I'm scum but she is getting really involved.

Did Zander interact much or pounce on BFG to figure her out at all?

 

 

I still think it's Cass and pral. Won't be able to shake that unless one of them flips to disprove it.

 

Wtv either. Will be around for DL, but won't be too active cuz work comes first.

Red- Darthe's been voting Sock for awhile now so....?!???!

 

Also can you do like an actually reads list like so i can see the order and who youre WTL

This, I've been there for forever and I'm going to be pretty salty if this doesn't happen tbh. At this point there is no excuse

 

 

The thing is if it were any BUT Eldrick Id be agreeing with you with little question.

 

I wanna see what he has to say about it first.

[Pralaya]

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

If Eldrick is Town, this is probably Scum Darthe

Sun Darthe isn't fixated on his reads. He likes to change it as the game goes on depending on where it is most opportunistic.

 

Are you looking for a mislynch?

[Eldrick4221]

 

I'm also sick of fighting you over your read of me. I'm probably just not gonna play a game with you again.

 

"Eldrick is just wolfy" is the reason, and you will see that after I'm lynched or post game. You can't understand that I'm town and never will dealing with you is a headache I'm not gonna put myself through again.

This just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If you dont like being wolf read then dont be such a sloppy wolf. Im doing what im supposed to and you're either truly mad or faking being mad because you dont like the result. Either one is bad form.

You say that like I care.

 

If you sign up I'm leaving the game.

[Pralaya]

Somebody help.

 

There's a post back a bit where Darthe and Eldrick are talking whether or not Eldrick would vote Darthe.

 

Eldrick makes what I think is a similiar slip.

 

He counts Darthe out of something that should've made Darthe scum in his eyes.

 

Then he comes back and corrects it in a later post.

Playing both side of the fence

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

In what world is that a slip?

 

Last game. You vote dice. Verb and leelou pile on. They win.

 

This game. You vote us. Scum pile on. They win.

 

I see it happening.

Omg he did it twice.

 

Youre admitting here thqt you know im town. You're excluding me as seperate from the category defined as wolves. This is so clear!

 

 

This would be a lot easier to figure out if someone filled in what alignment everyone was in that game

 

 

Darthe was Town it was lylo

 

3 town 2 scum

 

Scum were Verb/Lee

 

Town me darthe dice.

 

daybreaks darthe snap voted Dice, Verb and Lee speed hammer.

[Zander?]

Town Zander would be jumping ALL over Sock if that's a slip.

 

How would Town!Zander know it WAS a slip?!!?!?!?

[Darthe]

 

 

I'm also sick of fighting you over your read of me. I'm probably just not gonna play a game with you again.

 

"Eldrick is just wolfy" is the reason, and you will see that after I'm lynched or post game. You can't understand that I'm town and never will dealing with you is a headache I'm not gonna put myself through again.

This just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If you dont like being wolf read then dont be such a sloppy wolf. Im doing what im supposed to and you're either truly mad or faking being mad because you dont like the result. Either one is bad form.

You say that like I care.

 

If you sign up I'm leaving the game.

Then do yourself a favor and go ahead and bow out. Im sick of this sort of horse **** from pansy ass players. I play a clean game and I do nothing to try and harm anyone.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

If Eldrick is Town, this is probably Scum Darthe

Sun Darthe isn't fixated on his reads. He likes to change it as the game goes on depending on where it is most opportunistic.

 

Are you looking for a mislynch?

I can be opportunistic, but wolf me is never like I am this game where I find a home and gnaw it. This is my read, and I want the glory of seeing it pan out.

[Zander?]

 

Town Zander would be jumping ALL over Sock if that's a slip.

The last game DOESNT MATTER. HE SAID DARTHE ***AND THE WOLVES***

 

HE KNOWS IM NOT A WOLF AND HE SAYS IT TWICE

 

 

Pral did the exact same thing with certain words that implied he knew, why doesnt that bother you???

 

Ive pointed them both out more then once.

[Darthe]

Bone not home

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

In what world is that a slip?

 

Last game. You vote dice. Verb and leelou pile on. They win.

 

This game. You vote us. Scum pile on. They win.

 

I see it happening.

Omg he did it twice.

 

Youre admitting here thqt you know im town. You're excluding me as seperate from the category defined as wolves. This is so clear!

hmmmmmmm......

This is annoying me. Spit it out.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

In what world is that a slip?

 

Last game. You vote dice. Verb and leelou pile on. They win.

 

This game. You vote us. Scum pile on. They win.

 

I see it happening.

Omg he did it twice.

 

Youre admitting here thqt you know im town. You're excluding me as seperate from the category defined as wolves. This is so clear!

Yes. Comparing you to last game and saying it doesn't happen again does assume you are town.

 

What I don't want to happen is town!Darthe voting me and scum winning because of it.

 

The context "I see a world where" is a world where you are town. You're right that I am ignoring the part where you could be scum, but it's not the world that worries me. The town!Darthe quick to vote at f5 and cost the game does.

 

 

Not a bad response imo

[Eldrick4221]

No I'm sitting the rest of this one through. You're stuck on me being scum and are picking at and twisting everything that would make it seem like I am.

 

I don't think you've ever considered that I'm town and play differently, like so many other people seem to realize.

 

I don't think you're scum because of it, so I'm not voting you because of it. You just clearly don't know how to read me.

[Darthe]

 

 

Town Zander would be jumping ALL over Sock if that's a slip.

The last game DOESNT MATTER. HE SAID DARTHE ***AND THE WOLVES***

 

HE KNOWS IM NOT A WOLF AND HE SAYS IT TWICE

Pral did the exact same thing with certain words that implied he knew, why doesnt that bother you???

 

Ive pointed them both out more then once.

I dont remember this at all.

[Zander?]

Somebody help.

 

There's a post back a bit where Darthe and Eldrick are talking whether or not Eldrick would vote Darthe.

 

Eldrick makes what I think is a similiar slip.

 

He counts Darthe out of something that should've made Darthe scum in his eyes.

 

Then he comes back and corrects it in a later post. 

 

Show me the post please

 

And same thing I just said to Darthe, how come no one bothered when I pointed out Pral doing this!?!?!?

[Zander?]

 

 

Also still waiting for an example that she is assuming Zander is town. I couldn't find one.

Cass?!?!?!!?!?

To Pral. About bfg. Context in post right before this :P

 

 

I mean I wanted Cass to answer

[Darthe]

No I'm sitting the rest of this one through. You're stuck on me being scum and are picking at and twisting everything that would make it seem like I am.

 

I don't think you've ever considered that I'm town and play differently, like so many other people seem to realize.

 

I don't think you're scum because of it, so I'm not voting you because of it. You just clearly don't know how to read me.

Occams razor says the simplest solutions the most likely one.

 

Being bad isnt a scape goat, but it also isnt a valid explanation.