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*shakes head*

 

Ok, I guess we'll see what Zander gets out of this. Himself being lynched is sailing up as a definite possibility.

Why?

 

Don't remember why I said this. I'm guessing it was him being stubborn about something.

 

Ok :/

 

Just soon after you gave a town read on Zander so it seemed odd

 

Doesn't mean I retracted my town read. Just means I could see a world where he got stubborn and then lynched for being stubborn. Like I said, I don't recall quite the circumstances, and right now I'm more focused on getting started on some ISOs.

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Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Atm I'm at Cass and Darthe/Pral with a sidenote of Dice, because he can't get over that I'm not townreading him (when do I ever?).

 

 

It seems to me that you saying im nudging people but you dont think Im Scummy for it?!?!

 

Or am I missing something?

 

Correct. I think you're town, but I didn't approve of your method of nudging (or scum hunting).

Posted

Vote Count 3.03

 

Cass (2) - Zander, Sock

Sock (1) - Darthe

 

Not voting: Marsh, Pralaya, BFG, Cass, Dice

 

5 to lynch

Posted

 

 

 

Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Atm I'm at Cass and Darthe/Pral with a sidenote of Dice, because he can't get over that I'm not townreading him (when do I ever?).

 

 

It seems to me that you saying im nudging people but you dont think Im Scummy for it?!?!

 

Or am I missing something?

 

Correct. I think you're town, but I didn't approve of your method of nudging (or scum hunting).

 

 

pocketattemptdenied.gif?!??!!?

Posted

 

Thank you, Ill admit I thought the exact same thing myself.

Yeah, I was indeed admiring that :)

 

 

post-20530-The-Big-Bang-theory-sarcasm-h

 

imo

Posted

 

 

 

 

What Zander wrote:

 

 

 

 

What has Sooh done to make you feel good about her thus far?

Floated through the thread on a feather being happy to be here and saying whatever comes to her mind.

 

Scum!Sooh is cautious and it's tonally obvious.

 

If she's a wolf who just had a great early game it will come out when she has to start making more reads, but she's probably a villager.

ANYONE SEE SOOH'S LAST READS LIST?!?!!?!?!?!

 

 

 

ok lmk when youre caught up

 

start being villagery

 

really wanna hear your take on Sooh/Eld

*blink*

lolololololololol

 

 

@Shad - where are you getting your Sooh meta from?

I'm not sure I even understand this question but I've played/spectated quite a few games with her. I've struggled to read her more in some games than others but I've never been dead wrong.

I dunno Im thinking I may wanna test this....

 

 

 

I don't know if this is a nitpicky word choice thing, but do you think that Random's choice to defend his read on me is an overreaction? The phrase "jump into your defense" seems very strong for what he did which in my opinion was more an explanation of a read.

Is anyone else noticing the random/sock/nyce triangle of town reads on each other since I called out Eldrick's connections post?!??!?!!?

Likely town

Nyce

Random

random hasnt done anything scummy really yet. thats all. nyn had him and zander as light town

 

she also was leaning town on sock tho i wasnt so sold on sock but that ones a watch and see spot.

Dice: It's surprising that my posts this game haven't drawn the scrutiny from Dice I faced last time, which could be a bad sign for him, or could mean my play's been a bit more solid this game. I've got a slight town vibe from him for the moment

 

Sock: Sooh hasn't really posted much substance in my opinion either way. Eldrick is doing a good job seeming like he's looking for scum, but I felt a bit weird about how he was so quick to vote manbat after our interaction, and seemed to agree with everything I said. This could be paranoia - I'm not used to being agreed with frequently in mafia. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but that just equals a null read

They're all trending positively on one another to some degree, but I'm not sure what you're getting at with red unless you think scum!Eldrick kicked off the game by informing us that if scum!Nyce is a wolf then scum!Random is too. :huh:

 

The only thing that really sticks out here to me is Random calling Dice town while saying mostly negative things about him, which doesn't say anything about Dice's alignment but leaves me wondering about Random a bit.

 

@Random can you/did you explain this town vibe?

Ya this pretty much confirms to me theres a Wolf in Sock/Dice/Cass

 

The only person he really takes issue here is the guy who is like almost confirmed Town Cop.

 

He's not gonna remove like a quarter of the starting roster from being able to be pushed as ml's imo

 

What I actually see:

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

Looking at Pral only for now.

 

If Zander Villa this looks bad.

If Zander Scum we can't discount light bussing.

 

Them going hammer and tongs now ITT is a good thing

Lol

 

Then why aren't you voting me?

 

 

1. Because I'm not sure of your alignment and I don't often play with votes.

 

There exist possibilities you might be Town, those are open to interpretation, and I'm not caught up/decided on you yet.

 

 

Yet you voted Amega without even casing her first!?!?!?!?!?

 

 

 

I answered you about Amega ages back. 

 

1. DON'T OFTEN doesn't mean never.

2. The situation with Pral and the situation with Amega are different.

 

The reason for voting Amega was because they weren't really talking, first impression of what was in the ISO coupled with the lack of contribution meant they needed to be prodded. 

Rationale went 'sometimes quiet players need poking for encouragement', let's try that! 

I did so. I made sure it wasn't intimidating enough to make them clam up.

 

If you're really looking at what I say and do, you can see this??

 

 

I don't understand what you're getting at with the bold and the ?!?!?!?!?? 

 

Break it down.

 

And add in why is this so important to you?

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Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Atm I'm at Cass and Darthe/Pral with a sidenote of Dice, because he can't get over that I'm not townreading him (when do I ever?).

 

 

It seems to me that you saying im nudging people but you dont think Im Scummy for it?!?!

 

Or am I missing something?

 

Correct. I think you're town, but I didn't approve of your method of nudging (or scum hunting).

 

 

 

 

pocketattemptdenied.gif?!??!!?

 

Lol That's fine.

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GM eveyone :happy:

 

Just wanted to inform you guys this is my anniversary weekend so me and Mrs. AJ will be doing a bunch of stuff and I won't be around as often to be current and post VCs and such. I would still like to have a Sunday night DL but I know that is somewhat unrealistic for a lot of us so I could push it to Monday morning/early afternoon.

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Side note:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all :D

On mobile at work. Have read along to page 5 last night and this page here.

No idea what else is going on yet, let's go!

So...fluff.

And Darthe not willing to do any work.

And img fluff.

Whoa now, im totally working, im just not digging backwards. Thats the past, and I wanna look ahead.

Not willing to go back and read, to develop reads on people, while asking said people what has happened.Not only not counted as working, but actually scummy. That you are willing to accept someone's answer without having a clue if they are town or not.

Without having read anything but this page since I said I was gonna go read, bold feels reachy if serious.

Darthe will walk all over this accusation as either alignment imo, Eldrick are you serious?

What do you mean by 'accept someone's answer' etc? Possibility for spin there seems off.

How else would you expect someone to approach a newcomer here?

Yes, yes I would if I thought that grass needed beating.

 

 

I stand by the fact this looks off for Eldrick. The initial suss over something that really doesn't make sense, and then continuing it. The first time I played with Eldrick the thing that triggered me to his scum play was that he perpetuated illogical gaps. I see that here.

 

@Darthe - The game would move faster if you weren't always so ambiguous :P

 

Why was beating grass there unnecessary in your opinion?

What was your interpretation of the motivation behind me beating it at the time?

What's your interpretation of the motivation behind me beating it now?

 

With explanations why please.

idk this was like a hundred pages ago

 

 

It could be relevant in the future. Stop being a PITA and contribute.

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Its important to me Cass because if looks like you came in picked an easy target who wasnt around to defend themselves and made a weak Meta case on her to validate keeping your vote there which looks like busy work to look busy.

 

This is not how Id expect Town!Cass to react and jump in with imo.

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GM eveyone :happy:

 

Just wanted to inform you guys this is my anniversary weekend so me and Mrs. AJ will be doing a bunch of stuff and I won't be around as often to be current and post VCs and such. I would still like to have a Sunday night DL but I know that is somewhat unrealistic for a lot of us so I could push it to Monday morning/early afternoon.

 

CONGRATS BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

Well we could lynch someone soon instead.....

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It looks like I'm missing stuff from Cass at the least which is good to know

Can you explain what you mean about Darthe? There's been some town rally posts from him since start Night 2, but not much actual stuff from him, I don't really know what to make of it Tbh, the timing is good, but the lack of action is eh?

 

I've been thinking about this. The lack of specific action bothers me because I've seen Darthe attempt to directly rally in previous games so I know he has the capacity. Imo it surfaces when he's having fun/enjoying himself.

 

He specifically stated earlier he's been chill and happy, focused on the peek going right N1, so you'd think he'd be motivated to pump everyone forward as Town, but the 'rally' attempts feel indirect.

 

TLDR the amount of effort he puts in isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's harder to work out his actual alignment when he's not giving his all. 

 

@Darthe

 

I don't wanna debate about whether or not your rallying was Towny.

 

 

@Zander - where are you at on Darthe?

 

@Darthe - where are you at on Z?

 

 

How do you explain the fact you haven't wanted to kill each other (from the things I've seen) ?

 

Has this happened before?

 

 

If Im wrong on you or Pral its Darthe imo but I feel hes been pretty much his normal Town!Darthe self thus far.

 

Again tho Im not the best Darthe reader

 

 

What's Scum!Darthe for you?

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It looks like I'm missing stuff from Cass at the least which is good to know

Can you explain what you mean about Darthe? There's been some town rally posts from him since start Night 2, but not much actual stuff from him, I don't really know what to make of it Tbh, the timing is good, but the lack of action is eh?

 

I've been thinking about this. The lack of specific action bothers me because I've seen Darthe attempt to directly rally in previous games so I know he has the capacity. Imo it surfaces when he's having fun/enjoying himself.

 

He specifically stated earlier he's been chill and happy, focused on the peek going right N1, so you'd think he'd be motivated to pump everyone forward as Town, but the 'rally' attempts feel indirect.

 

TLDR the amount of effort he puts in isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's harder to work out his actual alignment when he's not giving his all. 

 

@Darthe

 

I don't wanna debate about whether or not your rallying was Towny.

 

 

@Zander - where are you at on Darthe?

 

@Darthe - where are you at on Z?

 

 

How do you explain the fact you haven't wanted to kill each other (from the things I've seen) ?

 

Has this happened before?

 

 

If Im wrong on you or Pral its Darthe imo but I feel hes been pretty much his normal Town!Darthe self thus far.

 

Again tho Im not the best Darthe reader

 

 

What's Scum!Darthe for you?

 

 

Cory described it as if he acting like a psychiatrist he's likely Scum and if he's acting like the patient he's Town.

 

I havent seen much Scum!Darthe so I can only base my read off of if I feel hes acting differently or not.

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WHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

 

 

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I love the gif. This entry could easily be made by both town or scum Cass, I just wanted to revisit the insane cat.

 

And also, SHAD!!; Monstr always Villagery, are you?

 

 

Actually, Questions:

 

Zander - is Shad Villa this game?

Shad - Same thing wrt Z

 

And don't worry about me, my Villa % just surpassed 50 on DM :D

Cass does have a few awkward interactions with Shad, and where she questions the content of other people's posts, she doesn't do that with Shad, she merely asks his opinion on things. Nowhere does she demand him explaining himself.

 

 

 

 

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NotBob, Sock, Amega

 

 

In that order?

 

im worried about a blind lynch on Amega tho.

 

we really gain no info either way and no chance for a claim.

 

I lean towards waiting for their replacement, still think the intro style is possi-scummy

 

WTL when I'm caught up

 

She votes for Amega, stating that she knows the least about that slot and three more. Then she unvotes and says this. Makes me wonder what changed from A to B.

 

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COMPUTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And also, 125 Pages????????

 

:laugh:

 

I'm in crazy hyped up mood post night shift and good music on the way home so apologies in advance about that. I'm on days off now, which means I'll get blocks of time to sit and actually dig in.

 

Nowhere near caught up, torn between re-reading and stirring up some stuff.

 

Somebody got cliffs?

 

COME AT ME WOLVES!!!!

 

Zander? Where you at game and headspace right now? You wanted hyper? It's here! Let's thrash? If I can get a confident feel for you before I crash and go to bed I'll be happy. Will go read your ISO.

This !HYPERRRRR!!!! !!!EXCITEMENT!!!! does so not ring true to me. It seems completely forced. I don't know if she's trying to pocket Zander, or if this is an obscure way of getting a read on him. She does seem to talk to him as though he was a townie.

 

 

Then there's this progression:

Ok. I need to rock in the corner with my tinfoil a while. 

 

I essentially don't trust Zander/Random here, and I'm not sure if that's more because I'm crazy or because they're wolfy af. 

 

I'd really appreciate some time to figure out which it is.

@ Zander

 

On the one side:

 

Partway through Shad ISO. Thoughts and stuff. 

 

 

On the other side:

 

If Random really is the cop and has a scum check on Shad AND thinks he's going to be NK'd.

Why isn't he/hasn't he focused on looking for partners?

Ok, Shad ISO finished.

 

I can definitely see a world where he's scum.

 

[v]Shad[/v]

I think a couple of people have suggested it, but it seems like she was trying for the longest time to just townread Shad and see if they could get a mislynch on the cop. The sudden shift is strange, from Zander and Random being suspicious to voting Shad.

 

Cass, can you explain?

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For reference, the entirety of my content on Amega.

 

Yey! Read to here (872) \o/ ( :P NotBob, :P )

Can pull specific quotes/explain points further later if required but random mobile thoughts:

Don't think I see Nyn reacting the way she did/to that extent as Scum.

Shad commenting on Zander's general level of participation but not voting him on it (yet) is Towny imo.

Interested to see Zander's reaction and effort from here. He still feels lacklustre at present and I associate that more with Wolf Z in a team he can't get hyped about (ZANDER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) but early direct pressure isn't the way you figure him out imo.

Eldrick's comment on keys to reading Zander is spot on imo. Trying hard to be objective about points of tinfoil this game and don't actually have Eldrick leaning scum aorn. He's less slimy in feels then I recall from scum games of his. Watching Sooh.

Calder and Random's response to Eldrick's Zander comment felt off. Calder because it's the reverse of my Zander understanding, Random because how could he agree if he's never played with Zander Scum?

No idea on Darthe. Not someone I want to D1 lynch.

NotBob is the same boat.

Don't know Amega but [v]Amegakure[/v] Please come play!

Pral - there's a tonne of spam in catch up, not as horrifying as it first looks. Thoughts?

GTH aorn Zander/Amega/Calder/Random pinging most



Also lol Meow, Jelly, and Shad's unexplained read of Sooh 'not' being picked on XD

 

 

 

 

 

 

cause of my instant reaction to it
 
 i immediately saw sooh pinching the bridge of her nose rolling her eyes and muttering your name unbelievingly.
 
my head points out that it could be frustration that ure being sooo scummy ure outting your self but i have learned that if i have an instinctual reaction/answer  follow it.  if i dont im usually wrong


Bold rings true for Dice and he says simular in person. Effectively null but I want to lean it Town for now.
Dice, is your read on Zander still the same? Any doubts or thoughts he's Town?
 
i think he has amped up but i feel like it could be because hes making an effort to be amped up if that makes sense. As for has my thought changed? wheres my vote at? thatll tell you.
 
I didn't know where your vote was at, and that's not the questions I asked :P
How confident do you feel in that read?

Dice nvm about this, I misread stuff


@Sooh I have no clue how to read NB. I'm deliberately ignoring him <.<

Wrt vote on Amega, vote can stay there for now. This is the entirety of 'content'

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=search&section=search&do=search&fromsearch=1

 

 

 

Need more from Amega, but going with possible scum here aorn. ISOs from 2 most recent Town and 2 most recent Scum games from the database suggest noticeably lower activity as scum and jokier starts than when Town, both of which are what seemed off to me initially here.

There really wasn't much content here when Amega entered/was posting so ehhhh but there's plenty now.

There are 42 games listed under Amega's name in the database and ISOs show analysis and reads being made, so there goes my concern they were maybe a new player psyched out or not knowing how to start.

Can't get ISO links to work here. Ftr games looked at were

Scum:
Mass Effect

Disney

Town:
Godzilla

Mistborn

 

 

I don't trust Random's claim but he self-resolves imo

Sooh, why don't you see that as a possible mafia move?

Zander on the up for me rn #crayons! #excite!?

[v]unvote [/v]

Still need to ISO but on a personal level I can understand Shad leaving the computer. I don't think it's likely to be alignment indicative.

Zander:

Any pings in Shad's actual play?

 

 

 

 

 

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NotBob, Sock, Amega
 
In that order?
 
im worried about a blind lynch on Amega tho.
 
we really gain no info either way and no chance for a claim.

I lean towards waiting for their replacement, still think the intro style is possi-scummy

WTL when I'm caught up

 

 

Zander, read it again in conjunction with my explanation.

 

Give me your final thoughts.

 

Please :)

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Zander 667 Eldrick4221 525 Sooh 331 randomh3r0 282 Darthe 243 Calder 242 Shad_ 236 Cass 124 Ironeyes 90 dicetosser1 81 manbat 75 BFG 74 Andrej 72 鲍勃不是我的名字 68 Nynaeve 62 Pralaya 37

 

According to the CCSoHW's theres likely a Wolf in the low posters, chance is increased by the fact Shad was one of the top posters up until he died.

 

Im thinking.....Pral.

I think CCSoHW works best when people are pretty much even in post amount usually. But I'll look into Pral next, since he's got 37 posts and Darthe has way too many :tongue:

 

Perhaps I'll try a Dice ISO too. We'll see. 

Posted

She also says she finished the ISO of Shad, correct me if Im wrong but I didnt see one, or her thoughts on it, but she did take the time first to suss Random and me instead.

 

Seems legit imo....................

Posted

For reference, the entirety of my content on Amega.

 

Yey! Read to here (872) \o/ ( :P NotBob, :P )

 

Can pull specific quotes/explain points further later if required but random mobile thoughts:

 

Don't think I see Nyn reacting the way she did/to that extent as Scum.

 

Shad commenting on Zander's general level of participation but not voting him on it (yet) is Towny imo.

 

Interested to see Zander's reaction and effort from here. He still feels lacklustre at present and I associate that more with Wolf Z in a team he can't get hyped about (ZANDER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) but early direct pressure isn't the way you figure him out imo.

 

Eldrick's comment on keys to reading Zander is spot on imo. Trying hard to be objective about points of tinfoil this game and don't actually have Eldrick leaning scum aorn. He's less slimy in feels then I recall from scum games of his. Watching Sooh.

 

Calder and Random's response to Eldrick's Zander comment felt off. Calder because it's the reverse of my Zander understanding, Random because how could he agree if he's never played with Zander Scum?

 

No idea on Darthe. Not someone I want to D1 lynch.

 

NotBob is the same boat.

 

Don't know Amega but [v]Amegakure[/v] Please come play!

 

Pral - there's a tonne of spam in catch up, not as horrifying as it first looks. Thoughts?

 

GTH aorn Zander/Amega/Calder/Random pinging most

 

 

 

Also lol Meow, Jelly, and Shad's unexplained read of Sooh 'not' being picked on XD

 

I believe I asked how Amega was PINGING with like 3 posts. Don't think you ever responded. I think somebody responded for you though.

Posted

 

Town LDO

Sock

Marsh

 

Likely town

Nyce

Random

 

Null

Manbat

 

No read on the rest yet.

 

I have liked dice's game so far. He has brought up a lot of good points and is being very engaging. Nyn is also town by way of hydra, but hasn't really proven it herself yet.

 

The way that random dealt with manbat's list just feels very towny to me.

 

I sussed manbat for his omission and how he dealt with random, but dice's explanation for why he did it makes a lot of sense. Back to null for now.

Why separate out Manbat from everyone else with no read?

That was early in the game. Manbat was someone I had tried to figure out and failed (Null). The people not mentioned I hadn't started on yet.

Posted

Pral - two posts. Usually someone whose reads I value as town, difficult to get as scum, but tries hard. I think his "this is too much to read" might be possibly on the towny side, only because I think scum Pral would make more of an effort to form reads and line up mislynches. As it is he has almost zero thread presence.  

 

Ironeyes - IC

 

Amega - no game related content

 

Cass/Monstr -

 

Looking at Cass' content first, since she's here to answer my questions about her posts.

 

And also, SHAD!!; Monstr always Villagery, are you?

 

 

Actually, Questions:

 

Zander - is Shad Villa this game?

Shad - Same thing wrt Z

 

And don't worry about me, my Villa % just surpassed 50 on DM :D

What prompted this post? Why are you asking these specific two about reads on each other?

 

 

Yey! Read to here (872) \o/ ( :P NotBob, :P )

 

Can pull specific quotes/explain points further later if required but random mobile thoughts:

 

Don't think I see Nyn reacting the way she did/to that extent as Scum.

 

Shad commenting on Zander's general level of participation but not voting him on it (yet) is Towny imo.

 

Interested to see Zander's reaction and effort from here. He still feels lacklustre at present and I associate that more with Wolf Z in a team he can't get hyped about (ZANDER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) but early direct pressure isn't the way you figure him out imo.

 

Eldrick's comment on keys to reading Zander is spot on imo. Trying hard to be objective about points of tinfoil this game and don't actually have Eldrick leaning scum aorn. He's less slimy in feels then I recall from scum games of his. Watching Sooh.

 

Calder and Random's response to Eldrick's Zander comment felt off. Calder because it's the reverse of my Zander understanding, Random because how could he agree if he's never played with Zander Scum?

 

No idea on Darthe. Not someone I want to D1 lynch.

 

NotBob is the same boat.

 

 

Don't know Amega but [v]Amegakure[/v] Please come play!

 

Pral - there's a tonne of spam in catch up, not as horrifying as it first looks. Thoughts?

 

GTH aorn Zander/Amega/Calder/Random pinging most

 

 

 

Also lol Meow, Jelly, and Shad's unexplained read of Sooh 'not' being picked on XD

How is Amega pinging with five posts, none of them game related, and Pral not pinging with two?

 

 

Reading back on Cass I think the initial Monstr read may just have been paranoia from last game. Cass has some reads and comments that I feel are in line with mine, and while there are a few things I would like clarified I think I'm pretty satisfied with leaving this slot out of my POE today. Dunno if it's a clear town read yet though.

 

Well, I found the question. I have tried to skim through the next 10-15 pages, but can't find where somebody responded, so either I'm misremembering or I missed it. If any of you know you responded to it, please lmk.

Posted

 

 

 

 

Dice seems very light hearted so far this game.

 

 

Dice seems very light hearted so far this game.

I agree. Liking the feel of everyone so far, but then again it is really early.

 

 

Crap, that's right, have to account for Dice being a hydra with Nyn...

 

<--- is sufficiently intimidated

 

So Dice, unlike last game, are you mafia this time?

Saving this for later.

 

In case it's trying to dissolve the fact he already knows they're a hydra cuz they're both on his team.

 

 

Early brownie points for being the first people to get into the game, tempered with I don't understand Eldrick at all :sad:

Makes two of us (the not understanding Eldrick part)

100% certain this number is higher then 2

 

lolololololol

I'm included on that list sometimes too.

 

I get "wth was I thinking" moments :P

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