Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Zander?]

As I said - I can protect in both TAR and stedding

 

I see no kill last night ;)

 

Who you protect!?!?!?!!?!

 

What are your reads!?!?!?!!?!?!

 

Really want to see #FULLHALLIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

the environment was fairly productive pretending that I was speaking to all villagers.

 

 

well most of the time

 

 

 

lol me

 

 

 

 

Are you implying you think or know thers a Wolf in your QT???

[Zander?]

 

hmmmmm actually

 

[v]Pral[/v]

WiFi seems fine just wanted to put her on the BURNER for a bit

If you want a low level heat on her I can handle that. [v]Wifi[/v]

 

 

Dude pretty sure Cory's just seeding WIFoM.

 

Just my opinion.

[Shad_]

Shad still my top town top deepwolf.  His Wolf equity rises for us only because we know were Town,  Atp if hes a Wolf hes earned it and Ill still make fun of him for the AtEing Self Vote he threw at me.

Hey, "if he's a wolf he's earned it" is my line!

 

I actually dug into you a bit in QT after Darthe flipped town, because I'm obviously wrong somewhere and if I get brutally duped by the resurrection of 2015 scum!Z it won't be for failure to reassess old reads. Probably going to be more persistent in questioning you this phase if you say things I disagree with.  Bear with me a bit.

[Tiinker]

 

TY Iron 

 

Shad's probably the most obvious villager in the game outright

 

What was villagery about Tiink? Are you saying it's something role-related or something he said game-wise

 

You don't have to tell me WHAT he said if you don't want to

 

Tink claimed kinda similar to yours iirc

 

Watcher or something to that effect.

 

I doubt Hallia is scum

 

Pral who knows

 

I dont think Hallia is either wanna hear who she protected and see some WIM but regardless not on my radar today.

 

 

Cory Pral,  WiFi, 

 

Here's what I think of everyone: 

 

Shad: After day one he's proven himself to be a pro-town force, and shows mega WIM. 

Tiinker: Our discussion last night in TAR was also excellent, and Town!Ghost!Darthe agrees with me on these two reads. 

Hallia: Hasn't been pinging me and I see no reason to doubt her doc claim. 

Zander/Cass: Still have them as town but after yesterday's tunneling on Darthe I'm tinfoiling some. 

Pralaya: Basically null for me atp. He's slipped out of my mind since everyone else has given me so much more to think about. 

Cory/Kat: I'm not happy with how Kat has escaped being lynched twice, and both times without even being here. I still think there are two scum and I think she's being pulled for by her remaining teammate. 

Wifi: Normally being unpredictable is a town tell for Wifi, but she's channeling it here into (I think) protecting Kat. I'm perfectly happy to lynch her today. 

 

Im not as sold on Tinker.

 

Shad still my top town top deepwolf.  His Wolf equity rises for us only because we know were Town,  Atp if hes a Wolf hes earned it and Ill still make fun of him for the AtEing Self Vote he threw at me.

 

 

Kat over Wifi but ya I agree there.

 

Tink really needs to be talked about more tho.

 

 

Pretty sure I've been the topic of discussion for the last ten pages and I already swore on my nuts that I was town. 

[Shad_]

 

 

the environment was fairly productive pretending that I was speaking to all villagers.

 

 

well most of the time

 

 

 

lol me

 

 

 

 

Are you implying you think or know thers a Wolf in your QT???

 

Why did you and Cass both single this post out and wtf?

[Tiinker]

[v]WiFi[/v] I can get more into it tomorrow. It's 4.30 am and I'm coming back from a club but the gist is that she has literally had the absolute worst positioning on the past 2 lynch trains and has swung in with some of the most baseless and random arguments. IIRC her read will go from null to scum within like 2 hours without any of the content really changing and be a swing vote to lynch. 

 

I legit can't take it anymore and I still have no idea how she's not been lynched already.

 

I'll try and make some hard cases tomorrow when I'm up.

[Zander?]

 

 

With Zander and Cass, after Darthe flipped town? 

 

Are you trying to throw shade at us???

 

You think that SCum!Zander driving a ML on Darthe would like kill my WIM??!?!?!?  If anything it would motivate me even more.

 

When we were in the Stedding together we had like 500 posts. I recognize you were stuck with a lot of quiet folk, but it's still kind of surprising you didn't have a go at Wifi or something. /shrug

 

 

Straight deflated man.

 

 

 

I mean i honestly dont know what Cory can do atp to convince of this slot's innocence.

Probably nothing, but we have one mislynch to spare, so if he's a villager he can potentially fill in the gaps to solve the game for us on his way out the door.

 

Plus there's Tel.

 

 

This makes a lot of sense

 

But it seems like he's just WIFoMing things up and messing around

 

 

In the meantime, what are your thoughts on the second wolf?

 

Ive answered this in catchup.

 

Wifi imo.

 

 

 

Ironeyes

 

Everyone else needs reevaluated

 

Have been calling Zander/Cass and Wifi obvious villagers and they might still be but I need to reassess.

 

Halli claimed doc

 

Thoughts on Hallia Shad?

 

Well, there was no night kill.

 

Weird that she didn't claim who she protected while she was here but whatever.

 

I had some other thoughts on her last night but they might be kind of irrelevant now.

 

 

Id still like to hear them.

 

Cory are you just lolcatting from the get-go to avoid spewing your partner? 

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Cory Caboose]

Actually really liked her response

 

More worried about tiinker

 

Might be drunk tho

[Cory Caboose]

Well really is too strong

 

But Indid

[Cory Caboose]

Npbody seems to care avout what I think though

 

Jerks imo

 

Hallia where are you ababygirl

[Shad_]

Wifi talk to me about your theory yesterday that Darthe was a scum jailor

[Tiinker]

Wifi talk to me about your theory yesterday that Darthe was a scum jailor

 

lol

[Shad_]

Id still like to hear them.

 

 

Current read list. The yellow ones, by way of explanation, are more null than scum but I wanted to give them a color anyway.

 

 

Ironeyes (also known as Marsh for anyone who didn't know): The mod told me he's town...

AlaCassZam: I probably don't need to explain myself here.

Wifi: The last game I played with Wifi was Demon's cove, where she was town and acted just like she has in this game.

Nolder: I alluded to this in my last post but I think Nol is playing pro-town.

Tiinker: Gut read. Not much else to back this up.

Darthe: Seems pro-town but I'm not sure of this read.

Dice: Where the heck is this guy? I didn't remember he was playing until I re-checked the OP.

Pral: Not happy with how this guy peaced out after posting twice, but then again he did something similar in Demon's cove and was town.

Kat: Nothing's caught my attention so far.

Hellian: I debated putting him in the scum category but for the sake of him being new here I'll reserve a real read for later.

Believer: I dunno.

Hallia: Not too sure about this read, but she made a big deal out of a series of jokes in the beginning of day one and it seemed strange that she wouldn't notice that wasn't serious.

Shad: As stated above, looked defensive under pressure.

John Snow: Pops in, votes me for lame/unexplained reasons, disappears. Pingy for sure, and like I said before this reminds me of Scum!Clovdyx in the beginning of Demons Cove. He directed all of the attention toward me right from the start and not only gained towncred for it, but was able to keep the heat off of his lurky teammates. They won that game in part because of his calculated risk there.

First, did Ironeyes say that myself and John could be on a team? Literally makes no sense.

Can you elaborate please on the bold??

Zander,

 

he has us as both scum; I don't see how we can be teammates, but that might be all our other games rubbing off on me.

 

 

 

Basically the idea that she could never be a wolf with Snow was something she was looking for others to pick up on.  Iron hadn't even linked the two in his reasons for sussing them.  Wasn't sure what to make of that.

[Zander?]

 

 

On D4

 

Totally irresponsible night killing imo

 

 

Can you elaborate on this?

 

It was a joke. Shad Zander and Cory should never all be alive on day 4 of a game, for the sake of every other player in it.

 

 

Legit AF

 

Shad mindmelds again.

 

He's never wolf here Z

 

 

In fact I'm stonewalling anyone but Hallia from asking me questions

 

She may ask me three questions

 

sadface.gif

 

*yawn* I thought this was going to be an explosive evening when I saw he subbed in.

 

@ Zander what determined the Wifi/Pral/Hallia order for you and where does Tiink fit in?

 

Wifi makes the most sense with Darthe's flip.  I laid out why in the N1 iirc QT and I think in the thread as well

 

I also mentioned Pral hes been on Kat early and we know he likes to bus.

 

Id replace Tink with Hallia.

 

Tink is mostly tinfoil and uncertainty especially with the similar role claim to Kat..

 

Speaking which wanna share yours?

[Zander?]

 

Shad still my top town top deepwolf.  His Wolf equity rises for us only because we know were Town,  Atp if hes a Wolf hes earned it and Ill still make fun of him for the AtEing Self Vote he threw at me.

Hey, "if he's a wolf he's earned it" is my line!

 

I actually dug into you a bit in QT after Darthe flipped town, because I'm obviously wrong somewhere and if I get brutally duped by the resurrection of 2015 scum!Z it won't be for failure to reassess old reads. Probably going to be more persistent in questioning you this phase if you say things I disagree with.  Bear with me a bit.

 

 

Do what you gotta do.

 

We need to Lunch a Wolf Today.

 

 

 

 

the environment was fairly productive pretending that I was speaking to all villagers.

 

 

well most of the time

 

 

 

lol me

 

 

 

 

Are you implying you think or know thers a Wolf in your QT???

 

Why did you and Cass both single this post out and wtf?

 

 

I thought you were hinting at a poss claim or interesting/strong read.

 

[v]WiFi[/v] I can get more into it tomorrow. It's 4.30 am and I'm coming back from a club but the gist is that she has literally had the absolute worst positioning on the past 2 lynch trains and has swung in with some of the most baseless and random arguments. IIRC her read will go from null to scum within like 2 hours without any of the content really changing and be a swing vote to lynch. 

 

I legit can't take it anymore and I still have no idea how she's not been lynched already.

 

I'll try and make some hard cases tomorrow when I'm up.

 

Why not CoryKat?!?!!?!?

 

CoryKat Scum flip will look bad for Tink here imo.

 

 

Id still like to hear them.

 

 

Current read list. The yellow ones, by way of explanation, are more null than scum but I wanted to give them a color anyway.

 

 

Ironeyes (also known as Marsh for anyone who didn't know): The mod told me he's town...

AlaCassZam: I probably don't need to explain myself here.

Wifi: The last game I played with Wifi was Demon's cove, where she was town and acted just like she has in this game.

Nolder: I alluded to this in my last post but I think Nol is playing pro-town.

Tiinker: Gut read. Not much else to back this up.

Darthe: Seems pro-town but I'm not sure of this read.

Dice: Where the heck is this guy? I didn't remember he was playing until I re-checked the OP.

Pral: Not happy with how this guy peaced out after posting twice, but then again he did something similar in Demon's cove and was town.

Kat: Nothing's caught my attention so far.

Hellian: I debated putting him in the scum category but for the sake of him being new here I'll reserve a real read for later.

Believer: I dunno.

Hallia: Not too sure about this read, but she made a big deal out of a series of jokes in the beginning of day one and it seemed strange that she wouldn't notice that wasn't serious.

Shad: As stated above, looked defensive under pressure.

John Snow: Pops in, votes me for lame/unexplained reasons, disappears. Pingy for sure, and like I said before this reminds me of Scum!Clovdyx in the beginning of Demons Cove. He directed all of the attention toward me right from the start and not only gained towncred for it, but was able to keep the heat off of his lurky teammates. They won that game in part because of his calculated risk there.

First, did Ironeyes say that myself and John could be on a team? Literally makes no sense.

Can you elaborate please on the bold??

Zander,

 

he has us as both scum; I don't see how we can be teammates, but that might be all our other games rubbing off on me.

 

 

 

Basically the idea that she could never be a wolf with Snow was something she was looking for others to pick up on.  Iron hadn't even linked the two in his reasons for sussing them.  Wasn't sure what to make of that.

 

 

OK.

[Cory Caboose]

[v]Tiinker[/v]

[Shad_]

Speaking which wanna share yours?

I didn't have a set order but I had a bit of a gameplan.

 

Wanted to be more proactive in questioning you (specifically you moreso than Cass because I haven't actually played with a wolf!Cass before) to make sure I wasn't relying too much on recent experience and letting a Matrix Z sweep me.

 

Wanted to probe Wifi more and continue to study her ISOs. I honestly still don't see her as a wolf in this game but enough people who've now seen her in both slots do that I'm clearly not on the same page as other villagers here. Not sure I'm comfortable hard defending her Overwatch-style and I want to reach that level of confidence if she's town or else have a better basis for doubts than general "Wifi is always hard to trust because she's so different", because without me she's going to get lynched eventually.

 

Pral has sat incredibly well with me all game. I remember in Overwatch after he was outed I looked back and saw a post I'd questioned but not put too much weight into and in hindsight it felt kind of ldo this is wolfy. Tried to read him assuming he was a wolf and nothing like that stood out to me. His low volume makes him an eternally difficult read and if he's been bussing Kat all game maybe it would look this clean, I dunno, but gun to head I still think he's a villager.

 

Halli I wasn't so sold on, but I will say this all game: I mislynch/misread her constantly for failure to really grasp how she ticks. I thought her fight with Snow looked good for her initially, noted what I quoted above last night and wasn't as sure about it. But there was no kill last night. Who she claims she targeted will impact how I feel about that somewhat, but I feel good about it either way.

 

And that leaves Tiink, who has a super innocent way of talking to people that made me write him off in Overwatch, and I put the least effort into studying him last night because I wanted to just treat him like a villager and see how he commented on my thoughts as I laid them out. He requires the most intensive ISOing from me at this point. But he did claim Darthe went nowhere N1, which is ballsy as hell if he's a wolf considering Darthe had claimed nothing at the time and the scum role cop was dead, unless his PR is tracker regardless of alignment. Tracker requires something to track though, and we've seen very little in the way of trackable town roles. Depending on what the people who've been holstering their PRs claim I might venture to say Halli Tiink never w/w.

 

If Kat/Cory aren't a wolf I have no idea wtf is going on. There are still claims to be heard and that will matter. There's still 48 hours for discussion. /shrug That's where I'm at.

[Cory Caboose]

Feel like I'm getting luncjed today regardless of what I do

 

Y'all are gonna be disappointed

 

My b

[Shad_]

Feel like I'm getting luncjed today regardless of what I do

 

Y'all are gonna be disappointed

 

My b

 

That's a cheesy thing to say when you haven't done anything yet.

[Shad_]

going to bed at a reeeeeeeeasonable hour woot

[Cory Caboose]

 

Feel like I'm getting luncjed today regardless of what I do

 

Y'all are gonna be disappointed

 

My b

That's a cheesy thing to say when you haven't done anything yet.

I don't reallt even want to read

 

You try subbing in on d4 and havjnf stakes pointed at you immediately ffs

 

You think i'm just gonna dance for you and do a bunch of work and die happily to help resolve your poe

 

Jfc the nerve

 

Why would I care

[Cory Caboose]

CORY OF COURSE NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED BC HE'S A DANGEROUS WOLF BUT LET'S LET HIM USE HIS WEEKEND TO HELP US SO WHEN HE FLIPS VILLAGER WE ALL FEEL BETTER ABOUT OURSELVES

 

what entitlement you have

[Cory Caboose]

Well the timing is bad. I have an octoberfest prty tmrw and i'm with my fam on sunday

 

So this is the me you will get and if you think you deserve more go look in a mirror schlubs glgl

[Shad_]

I kind of half think you're joking based on your tone

 

but in case you aren't:

 

Kat was wolfy.  Would have been lynched today if you hadn't subbed in the vast majority of the time.

 

Has nothing to do with getting rid of Cory because he's a dangerous wolf and everything to do with the slot being suspicious.

[Shad_]

Literally if you are a villager your substitution into this game might be the one thing that stops us from losing even if we lynch you.