[Basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ Town Wins

[Sili Quirrels]

fuck it im done. [unvote] [v]sili[/v]

 

bye.

[Zander?]

 

I couldn't care less about Sili suddenly flipping a read. He does it as town all the time. He knows this and it takes zero effort to replicate as a wolf. He's trying harder than I've seen him do as a wolf under pressure lately, and that gives me pause. I don't think he's reading as deeply into people as I'm used to, and that makes me worry. It's been a persistent thing, I think, and there's still a lot I need to read but suffice to say town!Sili is usually towards the top of my reads by now and he definitely hasn't gotten there in this game.

'i'm not reading as deeply into people as you're used to'.

 

son, this game's been going on for a day or so, and i don't know what you expect, but i've never done more than i have this game.

 

 

i dunno i normally feel better about Town!Sili by now.

[Nynaeve]

**** it im done. [unvote] [v]sili[/v]

 

bye.

:/

[Lenlo]

well zander you succesfully made me talk for '25 pages' about a weak read, thus making it a bigger deal out of it than i'd have made on my own, so that other people can push me for it.

Brings back memories huh?

 

So I have few problems with Belieber. I like him. I liked his early game. Same with Nyn/Hallia. My initial problem with Hallia was how she was joking and not commenting on anything happening, but that has since been cleared up. Shad and AJ strike me as the always do, people trying to solve. They can fake that well but at this point if they fool me, well shame on me. I dont have the energy to read 30-49 before deadline. Darooh may as well not exist. I always wolf read Celeste/Wifi, so im depending on Shad for the Wifi read and cop for the Celeste read.

 

That leaves Dice, Tinker, Cass, Kat and Sili. Cass her big posts were almost always tl;dr, my eyes glazed over, but she was putting forth alot of effort. I dunno if she does that as a wolf. Dice was pretty laid back earlier on as well, so few problems there. Tiinker, Kat and Sili are my top ones atm.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

I'm not gonna get lynched, don't worry about that.

 

Why would I deserve it?

 

because you're playing very badly. i think there are too many distractions right now, and playing badly doesn't make you a wolf anyway, but your bad reads are a weakness.

 

I don't agree, obviously, but feel free to carry that as a case against me.

 

So that I get what I deserve.

 

it's not  a case.

 

it's just my opinion of how the thread will interact with you going forward, at least until the wolves have voting majority or sway over the thread. if they do they  may keep you alive if you're town because your attitude is very +ev for them.

 

 

AM i just stuck in a ZanderTunnel or is this kinda like fear mongering towards Bel?

 

f*k no it's me being pissed off at him.

 

 

for what tho really?

[Lenlo]

Im curious. what drama I missed in 30-49, but I really dont care enough to read it atm.

[Zander?]

 

Sili, can you make a reads list where you gather your current thoughts? It would be helpful if they could contain some form of explanation how those reads formed as well. I just don't want you to get stuck in an argument where there's no way for you to show townieness, plus it would be helpful to have your reads somewhere anyway.

everyones tunneling me, i'm not about to have a healthy readslist when im this tilted.

 

 

take a step back if youre Town man.

 

show me im wrong.

 

i can give you some space to work,

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

for what tho really?

 

act like you have a brain and think it through.

[Nynaeve]

Im curious. what drama I missed in 30-49, but I really dont care enough to read it atm.

 

Swell. Thoughts?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

 

Correct me if im wrong but last game didnt it take you quite awhile to get early reads???

 

You were Town there as well iirc.

 

Define "quite a while". This game has been going on for a couple of days without me, and I've had the luxury of coming in late and being able to read a large chunk of the game in one sitting. That helps me, because I'm not consumed with the now. I can see thoughts forming much more easily when I get to read a larger portion of someone's thoughts. I tend to do better with my reads as a replacement in games or like now, coming in late.

 

 

Like i dunno having five seemingly decent town reads d1?

 

Why not?

 

Just because some games I'm struggling doesn't mean I have to struggle every game.

 

 

Perhaps.

[Nynaeve]

Lenlo is apparently a magician who sneaked in a post I didn't even see. 

[Zander?]

i dont even know whats the point lol. no ones going to read them after im gone. and it wont change anyones minds

 

i have ill developed reads and better developed reads.

 

wifi's town for speaking and thinking like how i'm used to. intuition yo. like she's very genuine about how much she tries to do well imo, and she does try to improve. it's very evident here.

 

zander and shad, idk, they've put me off for tunneling me. and maybe i was premature about my read of zander. idk.

 

hallia her reason for reading me scum seems like hallia, and i'll float the nyn boat.

 

sooh, wolfy opportunism, sketched me out. had a couple genuine posts. i'd have to observe her a little while longer to come to a stronger read of her atm.

 

believer - he has a persona on and it feels like a mask. probably a wolf imo, but caveat is i don't know his meta. you guys should investigate him at some point.

 

darthe - his tone is town, but what he says i think is in his wolf range. it means little.

 

aj - if he has bite you should read him as town. if he says a bunch of things i find sketch ill read him town. i know thats ironic but whatever.

 

tinker - if he's really been buddying me so steadfast then he's a wolf. arguing witht beleiver may have just been a ploy but i'm not sure. it may be that only one of them can be a wolf.

 

celeste - keeping to the background

 

kat - get the sense they're posting a lot of fluff. but like i've scanned one or two posts only.

'its kinda omgus

 

but thats not completely uncommon for Town!Sili tho.

[Sili Quirrels]

what are you, a drone zander?

 

of course my reads are a little omgus i'm tilted af

[Zander?]

she probably couldn't have rationalized changing her mind anyway.

 

like so little time inbetween, no way she changes her mind on 3 people in that span.

 

you didnt have her on your reads list iirc.

 

Maybe im reading this wrong but the bold would lead me to believe your Scum reading her but youre now Town reading her iirc/

[Nynaeve]

what are you, a drone zander?

 

of course my reads are a little omgus i'm tilted as ****.

Stop swearing.

[Zander?]

dealing with people like zander is sort of frustrating. he just calls me a hypocrite and there's no reason for it. being a hypocrite will never make someone a wolf.

 

and that said, i'm not exactly a hypocrite in what he brings up, but whatever.

 

I know i can be frustrating so im sorry but where did i call you a hypocrite?

[Zander?]

ima change my reads.

 

shad/believer/tinker for wolves.

 

How did your Tinker read change?

 

 

 

Zander, read the thread to the end and bookmark the things you want to respond to. If you can't find an answer then you ask it.

 

I've answered this question before you asked it two times.

 

No

 

gut says you shouldn't ever ever lynch wifi. but maybe i'm saying that because if she's town she might need cred from confirmed villagers.

 

Is Sili in spew mode?

 

don't piss me off further.

 

 

ily

 

<3 <3 <3

 

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[Sili Quirrels]

 

she probably couldn't have rationalized changing her mind anyway.

 

like so little time inbetween, no way she changes her mind on 3 people in that span.

 

you didnt have her on your reads list iirc.

 

Maybe im reading this wrong but the bold would lead me to believe your Scum reading her but youre now Town reading her iirc/

 

 

the bold implies nothing. it applies regardless of cass alignment.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

ima change my reads.

 

shad/believer/tinker for wolves.

 

How did your Tinker read change?

 

 

 

Zander, read the thread to the end and bookmark the things you want to respond to. If you can't find an answer then you ask it.

 

I've answered this question before you asked it two times.

 

No

 

gut says you shouldn't ever ever lynch wifi. but maybe i'm saying that because if she's town she might need cred from confirmed villagers.

 

Is Sili in spew mode?

 

don't piss me off further.

 

 

ily

 

<3 <3 <3

 

sadface.gif

 

act like you have a brain.

[Lenlo]

Lenlo is apparently a magician who sneaked in a post I didn't even see. 

I can sneak alot of things alot of places.

 

I mean what?

[Hallia]

Giggity!

[Zander?]

fuck it im done. [unvote] [v]sili[/v]

 

bye.

 

If Sili ever made this series of posts id prolly not play with him again.

 

So Sili prolly not Scum here.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

dealing with people like zander is sort of frustrating. he just calls me a hypocrite and there's no reason for it. being a hypocrite will never make someone a wolf.

 

and that said, i'm not exactly a hypocrite in what he brings up, but whatever.

 

I know i can be frustrating so im sorry but where did i call you a hypocrite?

 

hypocrisy: the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do

[Zander?]

 

fuck it im done. [unvote] [v]sili[/v]

 

bye.

 

If Sili ever made this series of posts id prolly not play with him again.

 

So Sili prolly not Scum here.

 

 

series of posts as scum.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

fuck it im done. [unvote] [v]sili[/v]

 

bye.

 

If Sili ever made this series of posts id prolly not play with him again.

 

So Sili prolly not Scum here.

 

don't fret. after this game i'm not playing mafia again.