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[Sili Quirrels]

Is cory just annoyed that zander isn't responding to him?

[Clovdyx]

If I had to guess -him not responding to anything in real time means catching up is very important to him so he's not taking any breaks to read or respond to the current thread. Zander generally isn't afraid to

respond to content as a wolf, I don't think, or at least his activity level hasn't demonstrated it in the past.

 

He's typically not, but I don't understand what he thinks he's going to gain from responding to a dozen things that have already been addressed.  I think everybody would be better off without extra posts that become meaningless two minutes later, and if he's town, he can better project his alignment by figuring out where his reads are based on everything that's happened and posting a collective thought post.

 

And maybe discussing it with Alanna so they can work out the kinks.

[Clovdyx]

Kat trending up.

 

Dont mind the reads and the response to Lainey.

 

 

What reads?  That's basically seven and a half nulls.  Really the only stance she even somewhat committed to was having you and Alanna as town.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

If I had to guess -him not responding to anything in real time means catching up is very important to him so he's not taking any breaks to read or respond to the current thread. Zander generally isn't afraid to

respond to content as a wolf, I don't think, or at least his activity level hasn't demonstrated it in the past.

 

He's typically not, but I don't understand what he thinks he's going to gain from responding to a dozen things that have already been addressed.  I think everybody would be better off without extra posts that become meaningless two minutes later, and if he's town, he can better project his alignment by figuring out where his reads are based on everything that's happened and posting a collective thought post.

 

And maybe discussing it with Alanna so they can work out the kinks.

 

We can all say it is -ev, but I don't think he cares. Best just to analyze what he ignores, why, and what he's saying.

[Zander?]

 

Lainey... l'm not defensive at you really any more... Honestly you and Zander seem townish... probably... Zander definitely does... i don't read you well so i'm going to have to trust to my reading of him more I'm afraid. What I'm annoyed at right now are the people who are trying to take our 4-5 posts of talking to each other and make it into t/w, w/w when they have nothing to back it up. it's extremely frustrating and i'm not sure how to combat it. I'm also not sure what people want out of me. I've tried typing a reads list 2 times today... neither one I felt good about and then I got called away at work and when I came back there were 40-50 more posts which I felt made my lists inaccurate until I could read up... And i'm not sure with the way things are going today at work that I'll have time to really sit down and do a list like I'd like to. 

 

 

 

Honestly right now the only "person" I feel decent about are you and Zander.

Hallia is borderline.

Cory is meh.

Seph... bleh but obviously no one can read him so I don't feel bad about that.

Clov... ehhhhhh I'm leaning more town than null but barely.

Darthe and BFG are non existent to me.

Reg I don't know and I don't know what to think about him... seems to be trying to make a lot out of nothing more than helping.Which seems more scummish.

Sirren I have no clue about.

Sili... his activity looks good but he's being a bit whiney... (sorry sili.. just calling it how i see it) and I don't know how to interpret that...

 AJ I feel gut ok with but i'm not sure what I think about that lol... I don't remember what his town game looks like but he seems more towny than what I remember him being like as scum, but I could be completely wrong.

 

 

so in order right now it'd probably be 

Zander/Laine

AJ

Hallia

Clov

Sirren

Cory

Sili

Reg

 

 

BFG

Darth

 

And in that I'd say Darthe, Reg, Cory are my gut reads.. I don't love it... but that's pure gut and I have nothing specific I can point at to back that up. (just putting it out there) And I definitely don't feel good enough to vote on any of them cause I'm just not sure. 

 

I'm not sure why you've got BFG and Darthe at the very bottom of your list when you claim they're non-existent to you. Does non-existence read scummy to you? 

 

Look at all that grey. Like, I understand being unsure about people, but even the people you think might be town or have done scummy things you then duck yourself out of those reads by saying like this "But I'm not sure".

 

 

How confident to you expect people to be early D1?

 

I tend to be able to make decent reads for the most part but my D1 ones Im not always confident on or have a feel on certain people.

[Sili Quirrels]

First time I saw zander do this was when he was a wolf with you clov. You could have stopped all this Clov, but apparently winning was more important. =P

[Zander?]

 

Also I voted you

 

No offense

 

It'll probably make sense in context if you're a villager, so be yourself and it'll move (LDO)

Lol, I'll get there

 

Anything you want me to address?

 

 

Will be looking for your catch up and current thoughts.

 

I have concerns over you.

 

Tho with Cory voting you Im a little puzzled admittedly because of my read on him.

[Zander?]

Cory – Involved, being his normal town self – Not seeing the “weirdness” others have commented on.

Regy – I really like the passion and posts coming from this guy.  One of my more comfortable town leans

Seph – I like what I’m seeing.  Tone is good.

Clov – Though we may disagree on some things, he isn’t inherently scummy, not WTL.

Sirren – Opinions coming from a towny place I think.  Posting thoughts and reads, which I like.

 

AJ – Not as many posts as I would like, but like BFG, what is there is not scummy

BFG – Very limited posts, but hasn’t sounded bad from what is there

 

Darthe – What, 1 post?

PBF – No posts

Kat – I maintain that I will feel more definite about her as the game goes on.  There was a time in game a couple of games ago where we were both town, going at each other, and then it was like a switch flipped.  I feel like I read her pretty decently, but it does take time.

 

Zalanana – I have explained why I’m not comfortable with this slot. 

Sili – With the self voting, ignoring people, and threatening to sub out, if it is his town play, he is still being anti-town.  He seems to be doing a little better, but I do not like his gameplay at all.

 

Cory would you yourself agree with that assessment?

[Zander?]

Zander just an FYI: I am not going to respond to questions from 20 pages ago when you're still stuck there

 

When you are caught up, we can converse like two actual people

 

Let me know

 

Again I said my involvement was gonna be off in sign ups man.

 

Im doing what I can when I feel up to it.

 

I want to catch up and be current and drop some reads.

[Zander?]

 

Did I miss where your read or feel on Reg changed?

 

I reread most of the thread when I woke up this morning

 

Didn't feel how I felt yesterday, and my feelings on Regy were a gut reaction to like 1 post at the time

 

 

OK

 

I've lost reply boxes on my tablet so I'll be phone posting for a while while I try to fix that

 

Cory, why Darthe?

 

sadface.gif

 

 

 

 

ty

 

So far i like seph hallia aj and sirren

 

And maybe clov and sili and regy

 

I'm not sure if I should be concerned about this

 

If you remove Sirren from this post, you basically have where I'm at right now.  Maybe put your bottom row about the top.

 

 

Reread Sirren if you get the chance and see what you come back with.

 

Im curious here.

 

 

What am I supposed to be looking for?  I mean, she had very little content early on, and I've already said that I like what I've seen from her this afternoon as it relates to Kat.  I'm actively working to avoid influencing my read based on her spat with Cory (hint: it's not going well).

 

I still don't know that I would remove her from the POE - and I doubt rereading her is going to change my mind on that - but I'm not wanting to start with her.

 

So if there's something specific you've seen that stood out to you, quote it for me?

 

 

I thought I seen something there in particular.

 

Not gonna call it out atp.

[Zander?]

 

I might vote for Darthe if he doesn't show up soon probably

Caught a fish.

 

Two posts into reading regy and ive got a wolf lean. Does that make me biased?

 

 

I dont think it makes you anything but wrong from what Im saying anyways,

[Zander?]

That's not me asking you to "change your approach", that's me asking you to make less posts that don't need to exist.

 

Then you CAN fluff with your newly redeemed posts you held back.

Do you understand why asking a question from twenty pages ago that's almost assuredly been answered already in the part of the thread you haven't read yet - and that even if they had an answer, it'd be an answer you wouldn't be able to read until you eventually caught up to the point where they responded (which would probably take HOURS) isn't productive?

 

Youre acting tho like this is me doing something completely different then what I normally do.

 

Why would you expect me to do things differently here?

 

You do things your way man and Ill do them mine,

 

This method works for me,

[alannalynn]

I'm off work and home, going to reread the thread. I skimmed the last few pages and don't particularly like how Cory is painting Zander. This is my slot too. So let me catch up and see where we should go

[Zander?]

Zander has decided I'm a wolf, either because he's a wolf and he knows he has to commit to the act that me correctly reading him is a "reaction" to him wolfreading me or w/e or because he's a villager trying to be a hero and failing miserably.

 

I almost think A is more likely and that's not an assessment I usually make

 

If youre Town you should really re read me man.

 

There's an almost sort of trollingness to his "I WILL PLAY MY WAY, BROTHER!" reaction to people making incredibly simple and reasonable requests to him.

 

It's from the ReddBoiler school of wolfing and now I'm hypnotized

 

Would you not be concerned if I listened to you and did things the way youre asking me Cory?

 

Its like all this noise youre making is pointless cause if I did things differently its very likely to get critiqued as well.

[Zander?]

OH MY GOD

 

ZANDER YOU ARE ACTUALLY A WOLF AREN'T YOU

OMGOMGOMGOMG

 

Im Town brother and I dont think were playing on the same team.

[Darthe]

OH MY GOD

 

ZANDER YOU ARE ACTUALLY A WOLF AREN'T YOU

OMGOMGOMGOMG

Meh sell me on it, your rhetoric is song this game and I dislike that from you, generally

[Darthe]

Strong

[seph]

I'm still missing pages 10-20 something where I came in. But I'm caught up from my 1st post to now.

 

Town list

Hallia- I loved most her early game

Cory- has close reads to mine- I liked a few of his earlier posts for raisens, and have thoroughly enjoyed his ramp up

 

Slight town

Reg- I had him higher but a few of his recent posts rubbed me the wrong way. Tone reading him seems enefective for the most part so it's going to take me a bit longer here with no meta.

 

Sirren- I liked her intro to the game and if I would move anyone up it would possibly be her

 

Slightly above null

Sili- silo hasn't been game solving at all. He has had to defend himself for 20 pages now. I would like to see him more involved in other matters.

 

Kat- I always have trouble with her early but I liked her recent posts and her reads list I would associate more with town kat

 

Darthe is probably town. This is off his 3 posts so it's meh. I just really think his few posts were on par for a towny him just jumping in the thread.

 

Null

Aj- haven't seen anything extremely towny, I will wait for him to get more involved. Good tone though and a did like a few posts.

 

Bfg- hasn't been her towny self. Though her play hasn't been bad. I just haven't seen any towny posts. She has asked some questions but I feel like she hasn't wanted to jump in the fray with alot of comments/arguments more just in the background, kind of coasting a bit. Probably ly a little below null

 

 

The rest I am uncomfortable with.

 

Zander has been off this entire game. Hallia had a few really good posts about him early on.

He feels less involved and even his catchup feels lacklustet, we are 40 pages in and he has yet to really dig in. His interaction with cory bothers me because he enjoys nothing more than being on a team with cory. If he was town zander would be joking alot more with cory about lunching wolves etc, while being wary and tinfoiling. And here he has been nonstop suspocious. No posts like cory you better be town etc etc. Sure I'm stretching a bit here, but zander just doesn't feel excited t play with cory here. Read ant game with them on a team.

Alanna has not been her towny self that I love. She is usually extremely proactive asking questions and keeping people on there toes with her wot, when she does them.

Her she seems more worried about finding someone to lynch rather than solving.

 

Clov I still have my problem here and I just disagree with alot of what he is saying. The only point I remember agreeing on were some about reg.

[Zander?]

I can just see you making the dog wince face as I say that

 

I love you brother

 

It's gonna be so hard to actually lynch you

 

Mislynching me usually is.

[Darthe]

He's afraid to talk to me in real time

 

Afraid

 

Why would villager Zander be afraid to talk to me in real time? I think villager Zander would stop what he was doing and defend his honor.

This is a good Zandt point in general but it needs way more data. Atm it's easy enough to argue that z could be busy or simply not giving cory the weight Cory is giving him.

[seph]

I'm off work and home, going to reread the thread. I skimmed the last few pages and don't particularly like how Cory is painting Zander. This is my slot too. So let me catch up and see where we should go

Grabs a paintbrush.

You haven't done anything to help either :( your usually so easy for me to read....

[V]zalanna [/v]

[Darthe]

I just make reads man

 

You can do with them what you will

I'm on a Cory kick atm but this doesn't reflect your approach to the thread, ftr.

[Zander?]

He's afraid to talk to me in real time

 

Afraid

 

Why would villager Zander be afraid to talk to me in real time? I think villager Zander would stop what he was doing and defend his honor.

 

This is a joke right?

 

Ive explained this.

 

I walk through the valley of the shadow of death and I will fear NO evil.

 

You got actual questions for me or are you just gonna keep complaining about my catch up without actually asking me things that you want to talk about?

[Sili Quirrels]

I've convinced myself that Cory is more hairy than Zander. Marvelous.

[Sooh]

Official vote count:

 

Sili (3): Regy Rusty, Hallia, Sili

 

Cory (1): Zalanna

 

Sirren (1): Clovdyx

 

Darthe (2): Andrej, Cory

 

Zalanna (1): Seph

 

Not voting (5): PrincessBFlea, Katiora, BFG, Darthe, Sirren, 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. 

 

 

I'm off to bed. G'night my wonderful friends, and be nice to one another because I <3 you all!