[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Zander?]

 

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I think youre prolly Town atp

 

[Zander?]

Dice you have any Scum leans thus far?

 

If so who and why?

[BFG]

And I just had an essay on Zander which I lost and I don't think I can write it out in full now, so you get the high lights which will probably be easier to read anyway

 

Disagree with his meta assessment on Niniel (Dice what's your read on her at the moment?)

 

Hate that he danced around calling me scummy at the start of our arguments, his refusal to state that he thought I was trying to distance from Seph until After our argument today when I asked several times yesterday feels really slimy BUT our actual arguments felt 'honest'

 

I hate his apparent lack of actually evaluating any of my responses to his arguments

 

Zander and I argue a lot as town

 

His argument with wish-tree reads pretty well from his side, still cautious on hers. He acknowledges that she doesn't have the meta to know that a lot of the things she associates with mafia him are null as he does them as town as well, yet that doesn't really affect his read.

 

His focus on multiple people is probably a good look, but I need to see how it develops.

 

Early posts were focusing on 'weird' things and seemed like noise for the sake of it, his more recent stuff reads better, but comes after a couple of people have pointed this out already.

 

Can't remember the rest right now

 

TLDR: /eh???

[BFG]

@Zander - yes, it's relevant.

 

I've seen your response, but before that I would have thought you were reading me as scummy, consequently not asking Chris why he was town reading me, when he reads me very well is concerning, for what it means about your 'evaluation' of me.

 

Somewhat of a moot point now

[BFG]

If you're town reading me then the difference between you asking Lily and not Chris is that you're more interested in working out Lily's alignment than Chris's at this point (which is fine)

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 12:55 AM, BFG said:

And I just had an essay on Zander which I lost and I don't think I can write it out in full now, so you get the high lights which will probably be easier to read anyway

 

Disagree with his meta assessment on Niniel (Dice what's your read on her at the moment?)

 

Hate that he danced around calling me scummy at the start of our arguments, his refusal to state that he thought I was trying to distance from Seph until After our argument today when I asked several times yesterday feels really slimy BUT our actual arguments felt 'honest'

 

I hate his apparent lack of actually evaluating any of my responses to his arguments

 

Zander and I argue a lot as town

 

His argument with wish-tree reads pretty well from his side, still cautious on hers. He acknowledges that she doesn't have the meta to know that a lot of the things she associates with mafia him are null as he does them as town as well, yet that doesn't really affect his read.

 

His focus on multiple people is probably a good look, but I need to see how it develops.

 

Early posts were focusing on 'weird' things and seemed like noise for the sake of it, his more recent stuff reads better, but comes after a couple of people have pointed this out already.

 

Can't remember the rest right now

 

TLDR: /eh???

 

What do you disagree with irt Tina?

 

Disagreeing or making comments doesnt necessarily make me think your Scummy does it?

 

I think you should know this 100% not the case.

 

No Meta wanna see how she progresses on me.  Should help me figure her out.

 

Eh is not a read?  Unless it means Null.

 

What is your actually read on me?

[BFG]

Sili is sort of shorter to talk about

 

Vote switching and engagement read as probable town

 

But I'm having real difficulty following his train of thought and that's concerning.

 

Silis also having a really strange reaction to any sort of questioning that I don't recall from his normal town game (would need to check to see if it's different from his mafia game)

 

I think Sili can maintain volume as mafia, but the issue is that's from an argument that mafia!Cory made in Matrix, so not sure how much I can trust it. He posted a tonne as third party in his last game, so I suspect he can do it as mafia. Question is would he?

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 12:57 AM, BFG said:

@Zander - yes, it's relevant.

 

I've seen your response, but before that I would have thought you were reading me as scummy, consequently not asking Chris why he was town reading me, when he reads me very well is concerning, for what it means about your 'evaluation' of me.

 

Somewhat of a moot point now

 

Zander gonna Zander imo

 

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 12:59 AM, BFG said:

If you're town reading me then the difference between you asking Lily and not Chris is that you're more interested in working out Lily's alignment than Chris's at this point (which is fine)

 

[dicetosser1]

@BFG and Zander

 

im currently back on page 29  im starting to suspect some things but their not fully formed yet.  and I dont think i have noticed ninel yet  i know she sheeped BFG but thats all i remember at this point but i know from a quick glance that zanders about to talk about her

[Sili Quirrels]

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:05 AM, BFG said:

Sili is sort of shorter to talk about

 

Vote switching and engagement read as probable town

 

But I'm having real difficulty following his train of thought and that's concerning.

 

Silis also having a really strange reaction to any sort of questioning that I don't recall from his normal town game (would need to check to see if it's different from his mafia game)

 

I think Sili can maintain volume as mafia, but the issue is that's from an argument that mafia!Cory made in Matrix, so not sure how much I can trust it. He posted a tonne as third party in his last game, so I suspect he can do it as mafia. Question is would he?

I can maintain volume. I have. But I need a reason.

 

I tried to answer Clov as best I could, but nothing was accomplished.

 

And guess what, I don't like answering bad questions. It's a waste of everyone's time.

 

Now, my content is fairly straight forward. You guys wanted me to expand on reads that I didn't feel deserved case work, and then reacted like I was casing people. Making big cases or whatever. All my reads this game have been intuition driven. Simple as that.

[BFG]

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:04 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 12:55 AM, BFG said:

And I just had an essay on Zander which I lost and I don't think I can write it out in full now, so you get the high lights which will probably be easier to read anyway

 

Disagree with his meta assessment on Niniel (Dice what's your read on her at the moment?)

 

Hate that he danced around calling me scummy at the start of our arguments, his refusal to state that he thought I was trying to distance from Seph until After our argument today when I asked several times yesterday feels really slimy BUT our actual arguments felt 'honest'

 

I hate his apparent lack of actually evaluating any of my responses to his arguments

 

Zander and I argue a lot as town

 

His argument with wish-tree reads pretty well from his side, still cautious on hers. He acknowledges that she doesn't have the meta to know that a lot of the things she associates with mafia him are null as he does them as town as well, yet that doesn't really affect his read.

 

His focus on multiple people is probably a good look, but I need to see how it develops.

 

Early posts were focusing on 'weird' things and seemed like noise for the sake of it, his more recent stuff reads better, but comes after a couple of people have pointed this out already.

 

Can't remember the rest right now

 

TLDR: /eh???

 

What do you disagree with irt Tina?

 

Disagreeing or making comments doesnt necessarily make me think your Scummy does it?

 

I think you should know this 100% not the case.

 

No Meta wanna see how she progresses on me.  Should help me figure her out.

 

Eh is not a read?  Unless it means Null.

 

What is your actually read on me?

 

Gun to head I'd say you were town, but I'm still thrown from our argument earlier :/

 

(and yes eh meant null)

 

The issue isn't disagreeing or the comments, it's how hard it felt to resolve them, how much you danced around making your point and I'm still not entirely comfortable with it - but I think it's as resolved as it ever will be

 

I sort of want to wait for Dice to answer but I'm falling asleep and can't wait. Niniel always strikes me as being a very 'clean' mafia. From what I recall of GB there were no unexplained reads or votes at any point. I think her mafia game in general is characterised by 'clean' play while as town she's less conscious of how she looks. So far her game reminds me more of the latter unselfconscious, but I can't say that she wouldn't make these posts as struggling mafia (GB was a much slower game).

 

The Kat thing was a mistake as either alignment, I've stated my concern (being that she doesn't usually use much meta (I think), but is she more likely to make this mistake as town or mafia? She certainly wouldn't make the mistake on purpose.

 

Nin/Kat never m/m because I'm pretty confident that Nin wouldn't randomly mafia read Kat that way unnecessarily

[Sili Quirrels]

No one is ever satisfied.

 

If you want to ask a question I consider important to answer, I will answer that. If not please gfy.

[BFG]

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:14 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:05 AM, BFG said:

Sili is sort of shorter to talk about

 

Vote switching and engagement read as probable town

 

But I'm having real difficulty following his train of thought and that's concerning.

 

Silis also having a really strange reaction to any sort of questioning that I don't recall from his normal town game (would need to check to see if it's different from his mafia game)

 

I think Sili can maintain volume as mafia, but the issue is that's from an argument that mafia!Cory made in Matrix, so not sure how much I can trust it. He posted a tonne as third party in his last game, so I suspect he can do it as mafia. Question is would he?

I can maintain volume. I have. But I need a reason.

 

I tried to answer Clov as best I could, but nothing was accomplished.

 

And guess what, I don't like answering bad questions. It's a waste of everyone's time.

 

Now, my content is fairly straight forward. You guys wanted me to expand on reads that I didn't feel deserved case work, and then reacted like I was casing people. Making big cases or whatever. All my reads this game have been intuition driven. Simple as that.

 

Ok, I'll look through your ISO tomorrow. I won't clear you on volume though :p

[Sili Quirrels]

I would prefer it if people didn't clear me based on volume. It's insulting.

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:15 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:04 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 12:55 AM, BFG said:

And I just had an essay on Zander which I lost and I don't think I can write it out in full now, so you get the high lights which will probably be easier to read anyway

 

Disagree with his meta assessment on Niniel (Dice what's your read on her at the moment?)

 

Hate that he danced around calling me scummy at the start of our arguments, his refusal to state that he thought I was trying to distance from Seph until After our argument today when I asked several times yesterday feels really slimy BUT our actual arguments felt 'honest'

 

I hate his apparent lack of actually evaluating any of my responses to his arguments

 

Zander and I argue a lot as town

 

His argument with wish-tree reads pretty well from his side, still cautious on hers. He acknowledges that she doesn't have the meta to know that a lot of the things she associates with mafia him are null as he does them as town as well, yet that doesn't really affect his read.

 

His focus on multiple people is probably a good look, but I need to see how it develops.

 

Early posts were focusing on 'weird' things and seemed like noise for the sake of it, his more recent stuff reads better, but comes after a couple of people have pointed this out already.

 

Can't remember the rest right now

 

TLDR: /eh???

 

What do you disagree with irt Tina?

 

Disagreeing or making comments doesnt necessarily make me think your Scummy does it?

 

I think you should know this 100% not the case.

 

No Meta wanna see how she progresses on me.  Should help me figure her out.

 

Eh is not a read?  Unless it means Null.

 

What is your actually read on me?

 

Gun to head I'd say you were town, but I'm still thrown from our argument earlier :/

 

(and yes eh meant null)

 

The issue isn't disagreeing or the comments, it's how hard it felt to resolve them, how much you danced around making your point and I'm still not entirely comfortable with it - but I think it's as resolved as it ever will be

 

I sort of want to wait for Dice to answer but I'm falling asleep and can't wait. Niniel always strikes me as being a very 'clean' mafia. From what I recall of GB there were no unexplained reads or votes at any point. I think her mafia game in general is characterised by 'clean' play while as town she's less conscious of how she looks. So far her game reminds me more of the latter unselfconscious, but I can't say that she wouldn't make these posts as struggling mafia (GB was a much slower game).

 

The Kat thing was a mistake as either alignment, I've stated my concern (being that she doesn't usually use much meta (I think), but is she more likely to make this mistake as town or mafia? She certainly wouldn't make the mistake on purpose.

 

Nin/Kat never m/m because I'm pretty confident that Nin wouldn't randomly mafia read Kat that way unnecessarily

 

 

WORD

 

I called her out D1 in GB.  She sheeped and voted me and wouldnt adjust her read on me.  So she's already 2/3 of the way to repeating herself.. I find as Town shes also willing to go against the grain.  Both games I got some suss and she jumped on.  I see a pattern here so I disagree with your assessment of her atp.

 

You ma6 be right on the last.

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:18 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

I would prefer it if people didn't clear me based on volume. It's insulting.

 

Id certainly condemn you on lack of it!!!!

 

[Sili Quirrels]

Kat uses phrases like I don't know this person a lot. Pretty silly. I'm not going to give her wots a lot of weight because wots are built to be solid. Nevertheless I didn't see anything specific that pinged me so I'm okay with people clearing Kat for her wots right now.

[Sili Quirrels]

Then again, I also don't read wots for the exact reason they are notoriously easy to fake, so there you go. My position on kat rn.

[Sili Quirrels]

I mean it's basically empty air, but I'm bored. Figured I should put something down on paper at least.

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:26 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

I mean it's basically empty air, but I'm bored. Figured I should put something down on paper at least.

 

Thought on Lenbot?

[Sili Quirrels]

If he's a bot he has a Lenlo AI.

[Sili Quirrels]

Joking.

 

Lenlo was a slimmy player last game. He's just as slimy this game. His reactions have a certain steadfastness that are town however.

[Zander?]

  On 6/7/2016 at 1:29 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

If he's a bot he has a Lenlo AI.

 

Sorry Lenbot is Wishtree...my bad!!!

 

lolololololol

[Sili Quirrels]

i thought wishtree's initial tone was good. that lends her a little botd. i haven't read why people think she's a wolf or the parts of her posts these reasons allude to.

[Lizabeth]

  On 6/6/2016 at 5:37 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 5:33 AM, Clovdyx said:

Well, you're probably my best bet for mafia at this point, so...thanks?

Huh?

 

That didn't come across at all. I tried to read your posts too, but barely saw my name.

 

It wasn't dirt on Seph anyway. Seems like possible confirmation bias.

 

Can someone enlighten me on something while I'm catching up? What was Sili like when he was SK?