[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw clov is practically conf town, don't falter on that.

Bertstaregif

 

Its okay, you'll get there

 

Start using words?

 

I've moved beyond that as a player

 

I haven't

 

Lol no humour here

 

FTFY

[Darthe]

 

BFG, what do you think Besie's alignment is?

Right now town, but I don't have a lot behind it

Personally im surprised to hear you say that

[wish-tree]

either dice/chris = both town, Besie is mafia, but chris wasn't sure, so he tried to vote her

 

or dice/besie = both town, so mafia!Chris didn't care about whoever flipped, because either way, he'd get his goal

[wish-tree]

I think BFG sees the latter and Darthe sees the first

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[v]Besie[/v]

 

At this point, I really don't even care. I'm really not that sure they're not scummates, so whatever.

Why?

If you mean why don't I care, because I'm tired of putting hours into this game to have two people read my posts. I have better things to do than waste my time writing arguments that nobody is listening to. If somebody wants to disagree with what I'm saying - that's fine. We can disagree. But have the discussion.

 

If you mean why is it possible they're teammates, because I've seen very little to make me think either is genuinely attempting to resolve the other one. I don't remember any interactions between the two of them, and I don't remember either even DISCUSSING the other prior to that instant ISO Besie pulled out.

So you jump from the person you've been pushing all day to follow somebody you think is mafia or SK, whose been voting her all day for no reasoning onto Besie for no reasoning other than an associative flip?

 

 

Actually, yeah. I'm tired of talking to walls this game, and if that's what people want, it's not my problem.

 

Knowing that Dice was town, worst case scenario is we're exactly where we are anyways - either RNG kills Dice, and he dies anyways, or RNG kills Besie, and she flips town. Best case scenario is Besie flips and ends up actually being mafia.

 

Now, I'll concede I didn't know that at the time, but it's hard to care when the only people that seemingly have paid attention to my points on Dice were you (who already was scumreading Dice) and... Lily?

Ok, what makes Besie mafia? Independent of the connection to Dice

her role p.m. I think but then I don't have the greatest handle on this game

[wish-tree]

and Chris's very minimal progression (I think it's hollow) on Besie means that she's probabably town if chris is mafia b/c he attempted to hammer her but failed?

[wish-tree]

but then if Chris is town, he is just frustrated with this game and decides to vote Besie because we all think dice is town and no one is listening to him, so he just doesn't give a crap anymore because they're both wolfy to him?

 

which means nothing for Besie's alignment

[Darthe]

and Chris's very minimal progression (I think it's hollow) on Besie means that she's probabably town if chris is mafia b/c he attempted to hammer her but failed?

Agreed completely, though it prob doesn't confess to that ever

[BFG]

either dice/chris = both town, Besie is mafia, but chris wasn't sure, so he tried to vote her

 

or dice/besie = both town, so mafia!Chris didn't care about whoever flipped, because either way, he'd get his goal

Or Dice/Besie/Chris all town

 

I try to keep an open mind

[BFG]

 

 

BFG, what do you think Besie's alignment is?

Right now town, but I don't have a lot behind it

 

Personally im surprised to hear you say that

 

 

I can be a surprising person

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[v]Besie[/v]

 

At this point, I really don't even care. I'm really not that sure they're not scummates, so whatever.

Why?

 

If you mean why don't I care, because I'm tired of putting hours into this game to have two people read my posts. I have better things to do than waste my time writing arguments that nobody is listening to. If somebody wants to disagree with what I'm saying - that's fine. We can disagree. But have the discussion.

 

If you mean why is it possible they're teammates, because I've seen very little to make me think either is genuinely attempting to resolve the other one. I don't remember any interactions between the two of them, and I don't remember either even DISCUSSING the other prior to that instant ISO Besie pulled out.

 

So you jump from the person you've been pushing all day to follow somebody you think is mafia or SK, whose been voting her all day for no reasoning onto Besie for no reasoning other than an associative flip?

 

 

 

Actually, yeah. I'm tired of talking to walls this game, and if that's what people want, it's not my problem.

 

Knowing that Dice was town, worst case scenario is we're exactly where we are anyways - either RNG kills Dice, and he dies anyways, or RNG kills Besie, and she flips town. Best case scenario is Besie flips and ends up actually being mafia.

 

Now, I'll concede I didn't know that at the time, but it's hard to care when the only people that seemingly have paid attention to my points on Dice were you (who already was scumreading Dice) and... Lily?

 

Ok, what makes Besie mafia? Independent of the connection to Dice

 

her role p.m. I think but then I don't have the greatest handle on this game

 

Ok I lol'd

[Clovdyx]

 

It's not like I suddenly had some epiphany that he was town. I've made it very clear what I thought of him this game and why I thought it. That's not suddenly out of the thread.

 

And what I've thought about people's alignments for how they basically tiptoed around him for no reason this game isn't out of the thread, either.

Hey so, since that read and your reasoning for it was really bad what does that mean for len iyo

 

 

Lenlo is just a hair worse because part of it was dependent on Dice being mafia, but I still think he's probably town.  Dice being town has nothing to do with his approach to Niniel this game, and I can't crucify the guy just for being wrong about Dice - I obviously was too, and we weren't the only ones.

 

His explanation of his progression from yesterday is still probably the most purely town thing that happened this day phase.

[wish-tree]

 

either dice/chris = both town, Besie is mafia, but chris wasn't sure, so he tried to vote her

 

or dice/besie = both town, so mafia!Chris didn't care about whoever flipped, because either way, he'd get his goal

Or Dice/Besie/Chris all town

 

I try to keep an open mind

 

 

I think that's what I surmised with the latter

but then if Chris is town, he is just frustrated with this game and decides to vote Besie because we all think dice is town and no one is listening to him, so he just doesn't give a crap anymore because they're both wolfy to him?

 

which means nothing for Besie's alignment

[Hallia]

But did you LOLOLOL'D

[Darthe]

 

either dice/chris = both town, Besie is mafia, but chris wasn't sure, so he tried to vote her

 

or dice/besie = both town, so mafia!Chris didn't care about whoever flipped, because either way, he'd get his goal

Or Dice/Besie/Chris all town

 

I try to keep an open mind

This seems off.

[BFG]

But did you LOLOLOL'D

Just a chortle, not a full belly laugh

[Clovdyx]

 

BFG, what do you think Besie's alignment is?

Right now town, but I don't have a lot behind it

 

 

Fair enough.  Obviously my association was wrong.  But I need to take a deeper look at her to see why she was so confident, because I still don't see it.  

[BFG]

 

 

either dice/chris = both town, Besie is mafia, but chris wasn't sure, so he tried to vote her

 

or dice/besie = both town, so mafia!Chris didn't care about whoever flipped, because either way, he'd get his goal

Or Dice/Besie/Chris all town

 

I try to keep an open mind

 

This seems off.

 

Words?

[Darthe]

 

 

It's not like I suddenly had some epiphany that he was town. I've made it very clear what I thought of him this game and why I thought it. That's not suddenly out of the thread.

 

And what I've thought about people's alignments for how they basically tiptoed around him for no reason this game isn't out of the thread, either.

Hey so, since that read and your reasoning for it was really bad what does that mean for len iyo

Lenlo is just a hair worse because part of it was dependent on Dice being mafia, but I still think he's probably town. Dice being town has nothing to do with his approach to Niniel this game, and I can't crucify the guy just for being wrong about Dice - I obviously was too, and we weren't the only ones.

 

His explanation of his progression from yesterday is still probably the most purely town thing that happened this day phase.

Im a bit flabberghasted by this turnaround. He was your top wolf read, then suddenly is town but can be a wolf dependent on how dice flips? And im waaay simplifying that. Who else in this thread is supposed to be able and follow your thought process clov?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

either dice/chris = both town, Besie is mafia, but chris wasn't sure, so he tried to vote her

 

or dice/besie = both town, so mafia!Chris didn't care about whoever flipped, because either way, he'd get his goal

Or Dice/Besie/Chris all town

 

I try to keep an open mind

This seems off.

Words?

O-f-f

[BFG]

 

 

BFG, what do you think Besie's alignment is?

Right now town, but I don't have a lot behind it

 

 

Fair enough.  Obviously my association was wrong.  But I need to take a deeper look at her to see why she was so confident, because I still don't see it.

 

Why do you think Besie's mafia?

[Clovdyx]

If Besie is town, we pretty much need Lenlo to be mafia, or we're not going to win this game.  And I really don't htink he is.

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

It's not like I suddenly had some epiphany that he was town. I've made it very clear what I thought of him this game and why I thought it. That's not suddenly out of the thread.

 

And what I've thought about people's alignments for how they basically tiptoed around him for no reason this game isn't out of the thread, either.

Hey so, since that read and your reasoning for it was really bad what does that mean for len iyo

Lenlo is just a hair worse because part of it was dependent on Dice being mafia, but I still think he's probably town. Dice being town has nothing to do with his approach to Niniel this game, and I can't crucify the guy just for being wrong about Dice - I obviously was too, and we weren't the only ones.

 

His explanation of his progression from yesterday is still probably the most purely town thing that happened this day phase.

Im a bit flabberghasted by this turnaround. He was your top wolf read, then suddenly is town but can be a wolf dependent on how dice flips? And im waaay simplifying that. Who else in this thread is supposed to be able and follow your thought process clov?

 

And he accused me of having a convoluted thought process... idk?

[wish-tree]

If Besie is town, we pretty much need Lenlo to be mafia, or we're not going to win this game.  And I really don't htink he is.

what does that mean

 

can you explain

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

It's not like I suddenly had some epiphany that he was town. I've made it very clear what I thought of him this game and why I thought it. That's not suddenly out of the thread.

 

And what I've thought about people's alignments for how they basically tiptoed around him for no reason this game isn't out of the thread, either.

Hey so, since that read and your reasoning for it was really bad what does that mean for len iyo

Lenlo is just a hair worse because part of it was dependent on Dice being mafia, but I still think he's probably town. Dice being town has nothing to do with his approach to Niniel this game, and I can't crucify the guy just for being wrong about Dice - I obviously was too, and we weren't the only ones.

 

His explanation of his progression from yesterday is still probably the most purely town thing that happened this day phase.

Im a bit flabberghasted by this turnaround. He was your top wolf read, then suddenly is town but can be a wolf dependent on how dice flips? And im waaay simplifying that. Who else in this thread is supposed to be able and follow your thought process clov?

 

 

Where are you getting this?  I literally just said the opposite of this.  And I don't see how anything I've posted today even somehow supports that idea.

[Clovdyx]

 

If Besie is town, we pretty much need Lenlo to be mafia, or we're not going to win this game.  And I really don't htink he is.

what does that mean

 

can you explain

 

 

People that have been seriously pushed this game.  Pretty sure I'm not missing anybody.

 

Seph - town

Dice - town

Niniel - almost certainly town

Lenlo - ?

Besie - ?

 

If you think Besie is town, that means at least four of the five top pushes this game are town.  Good luck with that one.