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[Hallia]

Teehee

[Niniel]

 

 

 

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Niniel (7) - Besie, Katiora, Sili, Hallia, Wistork, Lenlo, Clov

Lenlo (2) - Niniel, dice

Dice (1) - BFG

Besie (1) - Darthe

 

 

Not Voting (3) - Lily, Alanna, Lizabeth,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. 

 

NINIEL IS AT L-1.

 

Deadline: Friday, June 10, 4:30pm CDT

 

If people think that Dice and Niniel are teamed, why are we running up Niniel with no counterwagon on Dice?

 

[v]Dice[/v]

Also wolfy. If you dont believe the claim why not challenge it? Backing off but then still pushing the other half based on a w/w relationship is hyper wolfing

 

 

I agree with this.

 

And before we move on - how come you don´t know about Nirvana?! 

 

I was born overseas in a non-English speaking country near the end of the 90s, only heard about Nirvana in passing before this game, only looked it up about twoish (idk) hours ago to check Dice's claim. I didn't watch any of the videos, soz. 

 

So I claim. Wish comes into the thread 35 minutes after. Then she doesn´t talk about my claim at first but rather how Kat handled my claim. She also talked with Liz about Nirvana being a girl band (!!!!). Hally posted that she can varify my claim. Wish talks more about Nirvana and Kat and then she challange me claiming doc when she thought I was claiming cop. This is the post. 

 

Nin said she had a reason for reading Hallia as town, but Nin never claimed cop. If you're doc, saving someone doesn't make them auto town

 

???

 

can you explain this?

 

I would say that this shows very much that you thought I was cop and now you tried to make my doc claim look suspicious. You still didn´t unvote me. So I can´t see any conclusions other than you believed my claim but voted me anyway.

 

I didn't believe you because your claim doesn't make sense if you are a doc only. I thought you were cop, and when you weren't, then you were lying to me. I had no idea that docs could talk to other docs. Also, Hallia had voted you at the beginning of day, so I didn't think she knew your alignment but you knew hers, which indicated either a cop or a mafia TMI relationship. 

 

First a bit later you saw Hally´s post and unvoted. 

 

That's because she claimed your other half, and I was scum reading both of you, I didn't think you guys would link yourselves that publicly if you were scum together, and you said you were a limited doc, so hallia saying the other limited doc would make sense. 

 

 

 

Bold and underlined: yes, you thought I was cop, but still voted me. 

[Sili Quirrels]

personally the way nin handled yesterday i thought she was vanilla. goes to show what i know hm.

[Clovdyx]

no, at first near beginning of day I thought Hallia was reading Seph as town to clear her town and have a good claim, but then after I ISO'd seph, I thought that he and Hallia were openly wolfing in the thread. Then for a bit while I was tunneling on seph, I thought he TMI cleared her as 'his town buddy', and then I thought Niniel's green on Hallia made sense. That's why I was very unwilling to vote Niniel during that time. After the EOD with the way it ended, with hallia not defending seph that strongly, and him flipping VT, I thought that Hallia was still a wolf. 

 

Then Niniel, I thought it could be possible that she had a green on Hallia, but at first I didn't believe her claim, until she softed, which was around the same time seph was being called out for spewing Hallia.

 

 

How could you have believed her claim before she made it....?

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Niniel (7) - Besie, Katiora, Sili, Hallia, Wistork, Lenlo, Clov

Lenlo (2) - Niniel, dice

Dice (1) - BFG

Besie (1) - Darthe

 

 

Not Voting (3) - Lily, Alanna, Lizabeth,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. 

 

NINIEL IS AT L-1.

 

Deadline: Friday, June 10, 4:30pm CDT

 

If people think that Dice and Niniel are teamed, why are we running up Niniel with no counterwagon on Dice?

 

[v]Dice[/v]

Also wolfy. If you dont believe the claim why not challenge it? Backing off but then still pushing the other half based on a w/w relationship is hyper wolfing

 

 

I agree with this.

 

And before we move on - how come you don´t know about Nirvana?! 

 

I was born overseas in a non-English speaking country near the end of the 90s, only heard about Nirvana in passing before this game, only looked it up about twoish (idk) hours ago to check Dice's claim. I didn't watch any of the videos, soz. 

 

So I claim. Wish comes into the thread 35 minutes after. Then she doesn´t talk about my claim at first but rather how Kat handled my claim. She also talked with Liz about Nirvana being a girl band (!!!!). Hally posted that she can varify my claim. Wish talks more about Nirvana and Kat and then she challange me claiming doc when she thought I was claiming cop. This is the post. 

 

Nin said she had a reason for reading Hallia as town, but Nin never claimed cop. If you're doc, saving someone doesn't make them auto town

 

???

 

can you explain this?

 

I would say that this shows very much that you thought I was cop and now you tried to make my doc claim look suspicious. You still didn´t unvote me. So I can´t see any conclusions other than you believed my claim but voted me anyway.

 

I didn't believe you because your claim doesn't make sense if you are a doc only. I thought you were cop, and when you weren't, then you were lying to me. I had no idea that docs could talk to other docs. Also, Hallia had voted you at the beginning of day, so I didn't think she knew your alignment but you knew hers, which indicated either a cop or a mafia TMI relationship. 

 

First a bit later you saw Hally´s post and unvoted. 

 

That's because she claimed your other half, and I was scum reading both of you, I didn't think you guys would link yourselves that publicly if you were scum together, and you said you were a limited doc, so hallia saying the other limited doc would make sense. 

 

 

 

Bold and underlined: yes, you thought I was cop, but still voted me. 

 

err, no

 

I didn't think you were cop anymore at the start of day 2....

[wish-tree]

personally the way nin handled yesterday i thought she was vanilla. goes to show what i know hm.

she said

 

should I claim

 

that was like to me

 

SHE'S BEEN SO WOLFY EITHER SHE'S WOLF OR A PR 

[Sili Quirrels]

oh so you had an idea but you put it on a back burner because you didn't feel like it was relevant, and then later it became relevant when nin claimed doc, or something?

[wish-tree]

did that just eat my chris post

[Niniel]

But why then bring it up at all? You brought it up as a way to doubt my doc claim. Which means that you believed in the cop claim. If you hadn´t believed my cop claim then you shouldn´t have brought it up at all.

 

 

I´m sure you will want to go back and forth about this but I´m sure that I´m right about this. If you want to talk about it more then do so to get others on your side. I won´t change my mind about you. 

[Darthe]

dunno if you're telling the truth but a wolf doing what you did and going over all your content to create a through line - well that's ballsy.

Had wish pegged as town.for that kinda behavior since d1. She aint clean but shes pure.

[wish-tree]

oh so you had an idea but you put it on a back burner because you didn't feel like it was relevant, and then later it became relevant when nin claimed doc, or something?

well, I came into the day tinfoiling on Lenlo, and then noticing that Nin pointing out the same thing I noticed made me think, wait, maybe it's okay, maybe she didn't soft a n0

 

but then Lenlo said specifically to me

 

SHE HAS AN AGENDA, WATCH OUT 

 

I was like, crap, maybe he's right, and returned to doubting

[Sili Quirrels]

 

personally the way nin handled yesterday i thought she was vanilla. goes to show what i know hm.

she said

 

should I claim

 

that was like to me

 

SHE'S BEEN SO WOLFY EITHER SHE'S WOLF OR A PR 

 

it just rung fake to me like she didn't actually care. in fact it didn't seem like she cared a whole lot at all day 1 from the scraps i read.

[wish-tree]

But why then bring it up at all? You brought it up as a way to doubt my doc claim. Which means that you believed in the cop claim. If you hadn´t believed my cop claim then you shouldn´t have brought it up at all.

 

 

I´m sure you will want to go back and forth about this but I´m sure that I´m right about this. If you want to talk about it more then do so to get others on your side. I won´t change my mind about you. 

because I thought you were scum at that point.

 

When you claimed doc, with reasons for thinking Hallia was town

 

No doc I've ever played with treated a save as lock town - and that's how I thought you were implying that Hallia was your save. But to me it looked like a more TMI relationship, which I found wolfy. 

[wish-tree]

 

 

personally the way nin handled yesterday i thought she was vanilla. goes to show what i know hm.

she said

 

should I claim

 

that was like to me

 

SHE'S BEEN SO WOLFY EITHER SHE'S WOLF OR A PR 

 

it just rung fake to me like she didn't actually care. in fact it didn't seem like she cared a whole lot at all day 1 from the scraps i read.

 

well, at eod, after I thought Hallia was scum b/c of the seph flip, I was definitely looking hard at her

[Sili Quirrels]

But why then bring it up at all? You brought it up as a way to doubt my doc claim. Which means that you believed in the cop claim. If you hadn´t believed my cop claim then you shouldn´t have brought it up at all.

 

 

I´m sure you will want to go back and forth about this but I´m sure that I´m right about this. If you want to talk about it more then do so to get others on your side. I won´t change my mind about you. 

 

are you for real?

 

maybe i should vote you again if you're going to say stuff like this at lylo

[Sili Quirrels]

maybe what i sensed as not caring was really being withdrawn and super anxious. that would explain the release of all this energy from nin of late.

[Darthe]

^

[wish-tree]

essentially, I no longer believed your cop soft by end of day 1, or at least what I interpreted as your cop soft

 

then I thought it could be an honest mistake after isoing lenlo b/c I thought he was wolfy for not remembering that he had me as slight scum and saying he had no issues with me, and you pointed it out, so I was like, mindmeld, maybe she's just town and vanilla town, and the PR soft was my own misinterpretation

 

but then when you softed a TMI relationship with Hallia, I was like

 

oh lordy

 

and then you claimed doc?

 

Hallia unvoting you convinced me because she said it like she KNEW you were her other doc, and again, no good scum links themselves like that

[Niniel]

That is so wrong. So you choose to turn my non excisting cop claim that you didn´t believe in against a doc claim that you didn´t believe in as a proof for not believing my doc claim? No, this is just wrong. 

 

I hope someone understands my logic in this. 

[Sili Quirrels]

hm...

 

if anyone wants my 2 cents, and i dont put a lot of value in this

 

but lynch dice.

 

that's all i have to say.

[wish-tree]

I think I believe in everyone's wolfing abilities in this game?

 

uhhhh

 

so I don't think hallia/nin as wolfbros would do that

 

probably

 

it would be dumb

[Clovdyx]

 

But why then bring it up at all? You brought it up as a way to doubt my doc claim. Which means that you believed in the cop claim. If you hadn´t believed my cop claim then you shouldn´t have brought it up at all.

 

 

I´m sure you will want to go back and forth about this but I´m sure that I´m right about this. If you want to talk about it more then do so to get others on your side. I won´t change my mind about you. 

because I thought you were scum at that point.

 

When you claimed doc, with reasons for thinking Hallia was town

 

No doc I've ever played with treated a save as lock town - and that's how I thought you were implying that Hallia was your save. But to me it looked like a more TMI relationship, which I found wolfy. 

 

 

If Niniel had protected Hallia, she would have no way of knowing whether she saved her or not.  This doesn't make any sense.

[Sili Quirrels]

I think I believe in everyone's wolfing abilities in this game?

 

uhhhh

 

so I don't think hallia/nin as wolfbros would do that

 

probably

 

it would be dumb

wiiiiiiifoooooooooooooooom

[wish-tree]

That is so wrong. So you choose to turn my non excisting cop claim that you didn´t believe in against a doc claim that you didn´t believe in as a proof for not believing my doc claim? No, this is just wrong. 

 

I hope someone understands my logic in this. 

no, d1 I believed you off and on

 

d2 I no longer did after I asked the mod about night zero actions, which were nonexistent

 

then I thought it could be an honest mistake because I found lenlo scummier than you, and we mindmelded (you and I), then lenlo brought up how you didn't seem to care yesterday, but that today you had an agenda. So then I was back to thinking, she might have done this for self gain. 

 

But when you softed a peek on Hallia, I was like NOPE NOPE NOPE SHE'S LYING

 

then I voted you

 

Hallia saying you were exactly her other half made me go what.... and be like, okay, no smart wolf would ever do that

[wish-tree]

 

I think I believe in everyone's wolfing abilities in this game?

 

uhhhh

 

so I don't think hallia/nin as wolfbros would do that

 

probably

 

it would be dumb

wiiiiiiifoooooooooooooooom

 

I don't know

 

I'M TRYING TO THINK