[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

[seph]

also fyi. I think the mafia team is turin/dice/z2


shad stay around and chat with me

[Zander?]

Zander was a very Eldrick, Celeste, Besie, Seph kill. I will say that much.

 

I dont understand.

 

 

 

 

if mafia killed kiv..... Where is a head desk gif....

 

Turin if you are actually town, The maifa team imo has to be in besie/z2/celeste/darthe/dice

darthe and dice is who I feel better about in my poe. your eod just sitting on besie really bugged me, when 2 people who had trains were also in your poe. I didn't mind the besie vote, but when It was going no where, why not have your vote matter?

because it seemed there was a considerable amount of doubt on the leading trains and I wasn't gonna let bes slide away. You switched to her. Too late. But still.

 

I thought about switching to Celeste but was really hoping to get bes lynched. She was the worst to me.

 

 

Where is Penneh....

 

Not a good look imo.

 

Weird that everyone thinks I'm mafia with all the people I'm sussing. I mean they must think I'm Zander.

 

Well I do like Bacon.  Mmmmmm Bacon.

 

 

I didnt say you and Penny were w/w,

 

Im not saying you cant be but I didnt say it.

[Guest]

 

Z, do you think I'm mafia? If so vote me and be prepared to justify it WHEN I flip townie.

 

Do you think it means anything that Bes asked everyone how their reads would change IF she flipped town? Like it was a rhetorical question.

I wrote "IF" on purpose. It's the kind of thing I'd focus on if I was wolf.

[Guest]

PS. Did you see another if there?

[Guest]

I think so.

 

Lolololololololol

[Guest]

I'm finding this way more amusing than I should. Sorry. Lol.

[Zander?]

I also suspect Besie is more spontaneous in her first town game, sort of like letting the floodgates down, but I actually don't know her well enough to say such a thing. In any case her first few posts of this game do not feel like a first-time villager's after they played 3 times as a wolf.

 

She loves being Scum.

 

Like really likes it.

[Guest]

This is true. I miss it

[Guest]

I'm fluffing, I think. Sorry, I'll stop.

[Zander?]

 

 

Zander I'm ~4 pages behind but who do you wtl?

 

Im almost caught up and havent had a chance to reread yet.

 

Other then one comment Darthe has made he's done nothing to make me feel any better then I did as old me D1.

 

Dont like Turin's or Lenlo's pushes/cases against Besie. Still dont like Turin's very early comment about Besie HAVING to be SK if there were   Need to ISO them both to see. 

 

Penny has done nothing this game and basically just stopped posting.

 

Kinda where Im at now.

 

out of the 4 of us who is your most likely mafia??

 

 

 

Still catching up but as of right now you.

[Zander?]

Bes early game

 

 

This only my 4th game....

Noob card application???

 

Besie is this the 5th game in a row? or can we count on you?

maybe not as it was in response to Seph.

 

Guys, I want to say this now, and I'll try not to repeat it. I can only play a few hours a day. I'm a busy lady.

 

Fair enough and yet she has a lot of d1 posts.

 

 

 

Bessie, if you actually randed town you would tell us, right?

I'd give you the same answer I would as wolf, yes.

Which is also the answer I gave you when we first played together.

This is what you said as a wolf last game :( now I'm worried...

Also besie no worries about how long you can play,I think that is plenty of time to be honest. If you are town, just find us some scum and all will be well.

 

This is the "are you town?" situation. It does seem like it is needlessly mysterious. Like she is afraid to even say she is town. I din't think much about it at first because I was thinking more about Shad and his early Eldrick vote. Looking again it is weird.    

 

 

Besie, I know you have the whole chaotic evil thing going, but as someone who has played enough mafia now to know the ropes and yet has still never randed town, I expect the opportunity to approach the game from that angle to be a bit... exciting for you. It's a new experience. Where is your WIM?

You're not seeing my WIM?

 

My WIM is usually hidden in mind games and tricks and little secrets I hide in msgs to make people think. I love it.

 

More mysterious answers. I am not seeing the sense in it.  

 

 

 

 

Not a fan of this on reread.  Might be that I am really suspicious of her.  continuing...

 

There is a lot of reaching here imo.

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

 

Before I finish catching up, Darthe. I tend to think of you as our resident Turin reader. He had a lot to say this morning. What is your stance?

Lukewarm, he has is different than he used to be. I've been having a tough time with him actually, its half the reason I voted him.

What's the other half?

Trying to make smoke brah

okay.

 

BTW, I was surprised to hear Shad say that cause I think he generally reads ne better than most. Maybe he just doesn't have the energy to right now. I know it can be a chore.

[Shad_]

also fyi. I think the mafia team is turin/dice/z2

 

 

shad stay around and chat with me

On p106, should be able to speed up the catch up now cause my kid's napping. Was this your first post since last night? Do you have a response to my comments @ you then?

[Sili Quirrels]

if you flip town i am going to try my bbest to lynch celeste and eldrick and then i don't know.

[seph]

 

[unvote]

actually I think i would rather lynch dice/hallia than silli tbh.

[v]dice[/v]

 

yeah? why?  and dont think i didnt notice you trying voting me while i was sleeping 2 hrs before DL.

 

pity i got up to go to the toilet  isnt it?

 

Ok so I am trying to follow dice's progression. d1 He calls me null because I am playing like last game, Then a few pages later once turin votes he follows him onto me.  Dice Had me as his only want to lynch, and I was obviously his biggest scum suspect, but I never actually saw him provide a case or even try to push my lynch and get people to follow him. I had two votes near eod, It certainly would't have been impossible.

 

 

 

Dice, top 3 wtl, please

 

 

Seph, you didn't give me an answer to my question on p41

 

just got one right now  seph

 

 

Dice, top 3 wtl, please

 

 

Seph, you didn't give me an answer to my question on p41

 

just got one right now  seph

 

[Shad_]

BTW, I was surprised to hear Shad say that cause I think he generally reads ne better than most. Maybe he just doesn't have the energy to right now. I know it can be a chore.

Honestly I have half a mind to unvote you atm but still a good chunk of posts to read.

 

But I don't have a firm idea where to go from there.

 

Bunch of Besie posts waiting for me too so...

[Turin Turambar]

also fyi. I think the mafia team is turin/dice/z2

 

 

shad stay around and chat with me

Who you wanna vote?

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Bes early game

 

 

This only my 4th game....

Noob card application???

 

Besie is this the 5th game in a row? or can we count on you?

maybe not as it was in response to Seph.

 

Guys, I want to say this now, and I'll try not to repeat it. I can only play a few hours a day. I'm a busy lady.

 

Fair enough and yet she has a lot of d1 posts.

 

 

 

Bessie, if you actually randed town you would tell us, right?

I'd give you the same answer I would as wolf, yes.

Which is also the answer I gave you when we first played together.

This is what you said as a wolf last game :( now I'm worried...

Also besie no worries about how long you can play,I think that is plenty of time to be honest. If you are town, just find us some scum and all will be well.

 

This is the "are you town?" situation. It does seem like it is needlessly mysterious. Like she is afraid to even say she is town. I din't think much about it at first because I was thinking more about Shad and his early Eldrick vote. Looking again it is weird.    

 

 

Besie, I know you have the whole chaotic evil thing going, but as someone who has played enough mafia now to know the ropes and yet has still never randed town, I expect the opportunity to approach the game from that angle to be a bit... exciting for you. It's a new experience. Where is your WIM?

You're not seeing my WIM?

 

My WIM is usually hidden in mind games and tricks and little secrets I hide in msgs to make people think. I love it.

 

More mysterious answers. I am not seeing the sense in it.  

 

 

 

 

Not a fan of this on reread.  Might be that I am really suspicious of her.  continuing...

 

There is a lot of reaching here imo.

 

There probably is. He is tunneling. He also makes some good points if you are paying attention.

 

If your only job in life is to protect besie please get another one.

[seph]

omg it ate it

[Zander?]

some of her first real thoughts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Time to hire someone to decipher besie's hidden secrets.

Besie do you have any feels, one way or the other on anyone?

Lol. Seph.

 

So far I think you and Darthe are scum team together. I feel good on nyn and Shad.

 

any raisins?

ok let's just be honest. If you don't feel good about nyn you can gtfo

 

Shad cause he's playing like did last time and he was town there. Nyn because she's annoying as all hell and I love her.

 

You and Darthe because of how you interact - you trust darthe too easily.

 

can you explain how he played last time? Sorry for making you go into detail, but I wasn't here for it and I think it would help me tremendously to get your perspective.

 

I actually really like the part about me and darthe. I trust people to easily in general lol. Darthe has played more games with me on this site than anyone tbh. While I read him wrong often. He has his town game that I think is undeniable. It is extremely easy to read, as he can't fake it as a wolf. I am sure others know what I am talking about.

The key is to see if he keeps it up, and how he is actually progressing.

 

But no, I have no problem trusting that darthe. It doesn't mean I will follow him, because lol darthe

 

1.)Mmm I was a bit quick in saying that (especially since he said he hasn't checked PM yet - which, I almost think he did last time too). But last time he also went on, to me, about how a wolf never lies so I'll tell if I'm town.

 

 

I do read him wrong because he doesn't always play like the game I mentioned above.

2.)This was answer to Zander's question about how your post made sense (p5). FWIW,  I agree that that paragraph contradicted itself quite a bit, but I understood the general gist you were aiming for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besie had the same exact response last game at a wolf. I am trying to look at it objectively as she has never rolled town, so I don't know if she would react any differently or not. Which is why I will happily let it play out a bit more. It isn't condemning, but something that makes me wary is all.

eh. I always roll my eyes at it personally when that question is asked. You gonna ask a player if he's town and expect that, what, they're gonna say no? I get that some of you read tone and bla bla bla... her response was honest. But entirely null in my book.

 

Nyn a wolf, probably

 

Seriously? She said she would say the same as either alignment. It's an honest response. But it's not alignment indicative.

 

Super duper seriously

 

Anyone with a brain would say what she said. Because it's a stupid question. The response IS candid. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

 

3.) Fiery.  I like it.

 

 

Maybe she can be Ms. Calder or something.

Nope.  Definitely Ms. Besie.

 

 

1.) She gives her reads. Shad and Nyn town. Reasoning is Shad basically a "meta" thing. When asked to elaborate she reverses her position.  Nyn is town because she is annoying... (although Nyn was actually pretty much being tame ITT)

2.) Seph is weird at that point

3.) appreciates Nyn defending her. Meh.

 

 

 

Nah I was always bad at this game.

Oh ffs this is like my second town rand on DM in all of 2016.  Gimme massive walls of content.

I don't like these posts. Verges in AtE. I really really dislike AtE.

 

 

I feel decent about Zander's posts so far.

What?... he's only posted lol's? ... what?

 

[v]Shad[/v]

 

 

 

 

It's really cute how you always try to find the wolves between the actual active posters.

Why is this a bad thing?

 

It isn't.

 

 

 

[v] Seph [/v]

 

we need to keep traditions going, right?

 

unvote

 

[v] Besie [/v]

 

....

 

argh, I dunno.....

 

unvote....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkXHsK4AQPs

This post was weird to me. Didnt feel all naturaaaal.

 

 

 

 

 

Turns out, not alot of good gifs for the phrase "All Natural"

 

Thank you, Lenlo, for making my day.

 

 

 

 

 

Time to hire someone to decipher besie's hidden secrets.

Besie do you have any feels, one way or the other on anyone?

Lol. Seph.

 

So far I think you and Darthe are scum team together. I feel good on nyn and Shad.

 

On page 4?

 

 

 

Time to hire someone to decipher besie's hidden secrets.

Besie do you have any feels, one way or the other on anyone?

Lol. Seph.

 

So far I think you and Darthe are scum team together. I feel good on nyn and Shad.

 

any raisins?

ok let's just be honest. If you don't feel good about nyn you can gtfo

 

Shad cause he's playing like did last time and he was town there. Nyn because she's annoying as all hell and I love her.

 

You and Darthe because of how you interact - you trust darthe too easily.

 

Weird imo. Gave reasons for the town reads, only one of which was a real logical reason.

 

Her wolf reads are kinda eh. They are both wolf because one person trusts the other? Thats a one way relationship, so why does it make Darthe wolf? Like I could understand the Seph one cause buddying, but I dont see how it implicates Darthe

 

Really Len? First you can't believe I have reads, and then you don't understand the reasoning? You said it yourself. It was page 4. Obviously those aren't legit reads yet, but rather my feelings about people at that point in time.

 

I'm one of those that believe that initial game posts are very important. You just found out your role, you're still coming to terms with whatever you got. Especially if you got scum. So I agree with those that say it's quite BS that you post without checking your pm yet.

 

She votes her previous only town read in the next immediate post. This smacks of talking and saying things just to be saying things.  

 

Bold and italics seem to be in conflict with each other. If you truly believe that early game posts are important then that means that you CAN use them to form real reads. The italised section also makes her early game posts seem additionally bad. 

 

 

 

These big posts are time stamped the same minute. 

Bes give some reads but then basically backs off of them and in fact swaps to vote her previous town read.  How does that happen? It smacks of giving fake reads. A bunch of the rest of it is fluff and inconsistent. 

 

I think it is not good.

 

 

Have you played with her before?

 

You think Scum!Besie just starts flip flopping on her votes/reads?

 

Youre trying to tell everyone Scum!Besie would care less about her image or how people perceive her then if she was Town!Besie...

 

Because Scum tend to care less about how they look then Town do....????

[Guest]

Sili so you think my supposed teammates are celeste and Eldrick? Lol. I do like them. They're sweet. Suck at reading them but I like them.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

I also suspect Besie is more spontaneous in her first town game, sort of like letting the floodgates down, but I actually don't know her well enough to say such a thing. In any case her first few posts of this game do not feel like a first-time villager's after they played 3 times as a wolf.

 

She loves being Scum.

 

Like really likes it.

 

She's only played scum afaik.

[Shad_]

That line of reasoning at least is fairly eldrickian, but I am curious if he still thinks that. Usually when he is scum he is a bit more stubborn and careless about things, but he probably wouldn't want to be caught in a situation where all of his reads were premised on supposed TMI. More likely he would focus on one instance of awkward framing and blow that up and just that.

WBK unvote. Never forget.

[Sili Quirrels]

Sili so you think my supposed teammates are celeste and Eldrick? Lol. I do like them. They're sweet. Suck at reading them but I like them.

No I just think they're wolves, or are at least my best candidates for being wolves so I want to lynch them.

[Guest]

 

 

Bes early game

 

 

This only my 4th game....

Noob card application???

Besie is this the 5th game in a row? or can we count on you?

maybe not as it was in response to Seph.

Guys, I want to say this now, and I'll try not to repeat it. I can only play a few hours a day. I'm a busy lady.

 

Fair enough and yet she has a lot of d1 posts.

 

 

Bessie, if you actually randed town you would tell us, right?

I'd give you the same answer I would as wolf, yes.

Which is also the answer I gave you when we first played together.

This is what you said as a wolf last game :( now I'm worried...

Also besie no worries about how long you can play,I think that is plenty of time to be honest. If you are town, just find us some scum and all will be well.

This is the "are you town?" situation. It does seem like it is needlessly mysterious. Like she is afraid to even say she is town. I din't think much about it at first because I was thinking more about Shad and his early Eldrick vote. Looking again it is weird.

 

Besie, I know you have the whole chaotic evil thing going, but as someone who has played enough mafia now to know the ropes and yet has still never randed town, I expect the opportunity to approach the game from that angle to be a bit... exciting for you. It's a new experience. Where is your WIM?

You're not seeing my WIM?

 

My WIM is usually hidden in mind games and tricks and little secrets I hide in msgs to make people think. I love it.

More mysterious answers. I am not seeing the sense in it.

 

 

 

 

Not a fan of this on reread. Might be that I am really suspicious of her. continuing...

There is a lot of reaching here imo.

There probably is. He is tunneling. He also makes some good points if you are paying attention.

 

If your only job in life is to protect besie please get another one.

Unnecessary, honey. Don't make it personal.