[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

[seph]

Blah I keep coming back, I doubt I am ever leaving lol

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

im concerned with the amount of pr's we have.

 

masons shad-thane

bus driver- turin

investigation role

sili-

me-

 

That leaves

 

Dice

lenlo

z2

darthe

eldrick

celeste

so what ure saying is u have no reason for voting me.

 

noted

Lol I at least told you why I thought you were suspicious. All you have done is park your vote on me every phase, with absolutely no reasoning.

[v] dice[/v] Look I double voted you!.

Not a fan of this post.

 

I honestly cant really explain why.

I like this post, oddly enough

Well you are odd.

 

lololololol

 

Can you explain why you do?

It wasnt self aware and showed some process. Little things like that add up imo

[seph]

@lenlo I would prefer if you gave your own argument, sheeping is a lazy way to not take the blame or any backfire

[Darthe]

 

Distancing by pushing a wagon thats otherwise not gonna take off today.. Are you high?

WHAT SHES IN JUST ABOUT EVERYONE"S WTL LIST....

Yet she keeps living and ive not seen anyone else vote her since I did. Hmm.

[Darthe]

So heres where I am.

 

I dont really want to lynch Celeste today. I get the same feeling from Celeste that I got from Besie, and I turned out wrong about Besie. Maybe its WiM dying after I botched an entire days worth of content bogging us down for Besie, but thats where I am at. I was wary of those piling on to Celeste to save her previously, but that was because I thought Besie was wolf and they were trying to save her. Now? Now I just feel wrong and really dont know where to go.

 

Ill probably end up following whoever gives the best argument why the other guy is wolf today, while trying my best to rebuild my cred so I dont get become an easy mislynch for the wolves as we go.

Thats a godawful reason to not vote celeste and this post is beyond wolfy

[Darthe]

Caught up

 

Heading to an appt but will be back in a bit.

 

[v] Celeste [/v]

Bus vote?

[seph]

Darthe I don't ever seeing celeste/dice being w/w here.

 

I think they have both been suspicious imo.

What do you think on this, and why should I vote Celeste over dice?

 

I haven't seen something compelling enough to move me.

Celeste voted to self preserve which is done as either alignment imo.

 

Curious thought actually. Town celeste would not vote her town read to save her skin last game. Can someone look up her thoughts on besie before eod please, I can't atm

[Darthe]

I doubt they are. Ive stopped pushing dice, like I said earlier I liked his responses to me yesterday.

[Darthe]

You kinda just made your own argument for celeste but im basing this vote around her being consistently in the wtl but never actually getting lynched and on her absolute lack of content. She has murmered a cew base things but ive not found her posts obnoxiously rediculous all game, a sign that she is safing. Add in a couple of heinous attempt at being aggressive and youve got a better shot of her being a wolf than about anyone left imo.

[Darthe]

Hey seph and zander, which of your reads do you have the most confidence in?

 

For me its my tiwn read of sili.

[seph]

Easily sili

[Shad_]

I'm attempting to reconsider Celeste right now because of who ended up bushing her heavily at EOD yesterday.

Explain this.

[Shad_]

I think your wrong and is just looking for something wolfy because we need a wolf.

Explain this.

[Shad_]

Sure but I have RL stuff going on Im trying not to drag into the game.

That's fine. You said as much in your first slot too and played differently though.

[dicetosser1]

 

@ turin i asked him because of his who am i going to doc tonight comment. If i was mafia i probably would have shot him because of it

 

Really?? It's Darthe.  

 

 

still would have shot him unless the real doc claimed

 

@ turin i asked him because of his who am i going to doc tonight comment. If i was mafia i probably would have shot him because of it

 

Really?? It's Darthe.  

 

 

still would have shot him unless the real doc claimed

[Shad_]

See how stupid it sounds to say that?

lol

[dicetosser1]

dice part 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ darthe in regards to your besie quote. (Not trying to re quote any of that)

 

I hate when people purposely play wolfy as town to help there wolf game. If they wanna play like a wolf, I'm going to lynch them like a wolf.

I don't see this ever helping town. I also don't see any reason atm to not lynch besie. Continuing my reread

 

As you wish. If you think I'm town though, then that is the worst idea I've ever heard.

 

Green: How do you even play like a wolf without being a wolf? I can't mislead you. I know nothing. I'm definitely not going to purposefully post stuff that I don't agree with (and I don't even do that as wolf!). My WIM is way to high for that.

 

Purple. No. It won't help town. I want to hear your "definition" of "playing wolfy" before commenting further, please.

 

 

i will give you an example.  i saw wombat i think it was once explain that as town he tries to play JUST wolfy enuff for mafia to think hes a mislynch op but not SO wolfy that he gets lynched.  Think he said that he particularly does that as a PR so he doesnt get big game hunted

 

Eh. I'd taken it as pretty strong disagreement.

 

Well anyway.

 

Where the heck has Dice been?

 

working 

 

Need to see more from you brother.

 

 

takes shirt off

 

 

The Wombat example is bad because to be blunt Womby has enough clout to get away with wombatting. I'm fortunate because I'm always a lynch candidate. Except to the DT for some reason. LOL. Funny aside is that he answers Besie's question to Seph. Really funny for Dice.

 

All deflecting jokes in response to suspicion requests for more activity/gamesolve.  

 

 

 

@ zander and seph      keep talking about me and sili like that and I will show you who ends up on top.....

I really haven't said much about you, but that threat rings hollow bro. 

i calls um as i see um

 

 

you SURE ure not Infantry???

 

Again. Joke deflection. 

 

as for reads

 

i am purposely keeping seph null and will be just following others in regards to him. why? cause he is playing exactly like last game and last game he was town but it was so recent i think itd be easy for him to copy. 

 

I have that WIFOM thought in my mind pretty strongly so im not making a call at this point if at all

 

 

zander sounds ok  not totally sold yet

 

i refuse to town read sneaky belgians like thane after last game :p

 

 if i voted anywhere right now itd be shad.  didnt like that post about towning and really havent liked how often he pointed out his activity in this game

Maybe this is me and it is colouring my read but when I read these bolded words I do not expect to see jokes mixed in with the reads. 

 

The Seph comment is purely an avoidance to take responsibilty for his read on Seph (who ended up being the only person he really want ed to lynch ironically). He is playing exactly like he did last game as town but because of that he could be copying his play. 

 

 

 

Dice do you use meta in your reads? 

Why was Thane really a town read for you there?

Why would you be wanting to vote Shad? I think Thane had already said to just trust his shad read at that point.

 

 

 

I need to stop now. need to go sop and get ready to celebrate my legit UK resident status. Might get back tonight. more likely in my morning. 

 

possibly good night. 

 

Do you read what i write?

 

WHere did i say i was town reading thane? That is a joke because i hard town read him last game and he was the damned GF! AND i already answered this.

 

Already answered seph too    then he started playing scummy  if hes gonna play scummy im gonna vote him.  i find it interesting that people wanna vote celeste because shes in so many WTLs   so i s seph but noone wants to vote him

 

As for grumpy...  im annoyed with you   for 2 games you have done the SAME things   cant see obvious jokes, continually questioned me about said obvious jokes and pushed me for crap reasons. BOTH times im town.  now 140 odd pages in you dredge up stuff i already answered to you,

 

And what does the red have to do with what i said? WOMBATTING refers to his short often one word votes and posts. its got nothing to do with clout.  what i said there was what wombat himself said about his play

 

 

@ turin i asked him because of his who am i going to doc tonight comment. If i was mafia i probably would have shot him because of it

 

Really?? It's Darthe.  

 

 

still would have shot him unless the real doc claimed

 

dice part 1

 

 

 

 

besie is the new cass

 

vote wolfqueen 

 

 

 

gives nyn a shoulder massage to help her stay zen

... I'm the old Besie, imo.

 

Sadface.

 

Love wolfqueen tho

 

 

the old besie is a wolf besie   nods    vote can stay there for a bit

 

 

@MOD   if I vote Wolfqueen all game instead of besie is that ok?  

 

This is Dice giving a reason for his "joke" vote. and keeps the vote there. This still reads to me as him placing a joke vote and then  trying to make it stick. who came out early and deflected it as being an obvious joke? Nyn. It wasn't a softball to put more pressure on dice IMO but rather an attempt to take pressure off by going  oh Turin you so wrong.  

 

 

 

if sephs gonna vote wolfqueen for real i will

 

unvote

What do you like about her game so far?

 

 

 

Dice, What is your current read on Bessie?

 

@eldrick   nothing atm  shes null for me. I was just playing with her.

 

@ turin  i didnt realize that my vote hadnt been counted and if real votes were getting put down didnt want my joke vote to be there.  that follow up post you mentioned was me still playing a bit

 

He unvotes some 8 hours later to make it look like just a joke. Then he says she is null but seems to basically strong town read her the rest of the way despite her steady non town behavior. I don't think I recall any further suspicion of her.  Again with the jokey reasoning and it was all a joke. 

 

 

 

I'm presently a bit suspicious of Shad, Thane and Dice.

 

I think that you are leaning town for me. Maybe Darthe too. 

 

Pretty much everyone else sorta null.

 

 

Might need to hurry if want to talk with me as it is getting close to time to start making tea (dinner in the US). 

 

why? cause you dont follow my jokes that are aimed at a particular person and in fact build on ongoing theme from skype chats? I kinda figured out from previous games that you dont understand my jokes.

 

Is there some other reason?

 

 

@ darthe in regards to your besie quote. (Not trying to re quote any of that)

 

I hate when people purposely play wolfy as town to help there wolf game. If they wanna play like a wolf, I'm going to lynch them like a wolf.

I don't see this ever helping town. I also don't see any reason atm to not lynch besie. Continuing my reread

 

As you wish. If you think I'm town though, then that is the worst idea I've ever heard.

 

Green: How do you even play like a wolf without being a wolf? I can't mislead you. I know nothing. I'm definitely not going to purposefully post stuff that I don't agree with (and I don't even do that as wolf!). My WIM is way to high for that.

 

Purple. No. It won't help town. I want to hear your "definition" of "playing wolfy" before commenting further, please.

 

 

i will give you an example.  i saw wombat i think it was once explain that as town he tries to play JUST wolfy enuff for mafia to think hes a mislynch op but not SO wolfy that he gets lynched.  Think he said that he particularly does that as a PR so he doesnt get big game hunted

 

Eh. I'd taken it as pretty strong disagreement.

 

Well anyway.

 

Where the heck has Dice been?

 

working 

 

Need to see more from you brother.

 

 

takes shirt off

 

His response to me is grumpy Dice. Trying to make up a reason of not getting the joke. My reason is that he is hiding behind the jokes. (The fact that the joke stems from something outside the game to me means it should basically not be in the game. That's just my take and I'm NOT making anything of it. ) The response of why and then putting reasons to another's thoughts or actions is bad in and of itself. It is a sign of trying to redirect the conversation. 

 

The Wombat example is bad because to be blunt Womby has enough clout to get away with wombatting. I'm fortunate because I'm always a lynch candidate. Except to the DT for some reason. LOL. Funny aside is that he answers Besie's question to Seph. Really funny for Dice.

 

All deflecting jokes in response to suspicion requests for more activity/gamesolve.  

 

 

 

@ zander and seph      keep talking about me and sili like that and I will show you who ends up on top.....

I really haven't said much about you, but that threat rings hollow bro. 

i calls um as i see um

 

 

you SURE ure not Infantry???

 

Again. Joke deflection. 

 

as for reads

 

i am purposely keeping seph null and will be just following others in regards to him. why? cause he is playing exactly like last game and last game he was town but it was so recent i think itd be easy for him to copy. 

 

I have that WIFOM thought in my mind pretty strongly so im not making a call at this point if at all

 

 

zander sounds ok  not totally sold yet

 

i refuse to town read sneaky belgians like thane after last game :p

 

 if i voted anywhere right now itd be shad.  didnt like that post about towning and really havent liked how often he pointed out his activity in this game

Maybe this is me and it is colouring my read but when I read these bolded words I do not expect to see jokes mixed in with the reads. 

 

The Seph comment is purely an avoidance to take responsibilty for his read on Seph (who ended up being the only person he really want ed to lynch ironically). He is playing exactly like he did last game as town but because of that he could be copying his play. 

 

 

 

Dice do you use meta in your reads? 

Why was Thane really a town read for you there?

Why would you be wanting to vote Shad? I think Thane had already said to just trust his shad read at that point.

 

 

 

I need to stop now. need to go sop and get ready to celebrate my legit UK resident status. Might get back tonight. more likely in my morning. 

 

possibly good night. 

 

Do you read what i write? WHere did i say i was town reading thane? That is a joke because i hard town read him last game and he was the damned GF! AND i already answered this.

Already answered seph too    then he started playing scummy  if hes gonna play scummy im gonna vote him.  i find it interesting that people wanna vote celeste because shes in so many WTLs   so i s seph but noone wants to vote him

 

As for grumpy...  im annoyed with you   for 2 games you have done the SAME things   cant see obvious jokes, continually questioned me about said obvious jokes and pushed me for crap reasons. BOTH times im town.  now 140 odd pages in you dredge up stuff i already answered to you,

 

[dicetosser1]

 

@ turin i asked him because of his who am i going to doc tonight comment. If i was mafia i probably would have shot him because of it

 

If this is who I think its about its the only reason Ive been holding back pushing him real hard.

 

But on the other hand he could make a post like this as either alignment and even a VT imo.

 

 

it was about darthe

 

 

 

@lenlo I would prefer if you gave your own argument, sheeping is a lazy way to not take the blame or any backfire

 

really??  how many people have recently commented on me sheeping thane?  thats backfire

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Zander please explain how dice has been a town dice.

Where is his fire when he digs in someone? I'm not seeing any of that, this seems like he is more or less going with the flow.

He votes me, and switches at eod towards someone recently getting heat.

 

I think I just read he claimed doctor from a recent post turin quoted? Is that right?

His tone and thoughts processes seem normal.

 

He's not digging into mechanics.

 

Jokey but not overly jokey.

 

Other then the sheeping Thane and Darthe comment he seems ok to me.

 

And no he didnt claim Doc that I saw.

Disagree with dice not digging into mechanics tangential subjects. The bus driver must be mafia thing. There are others I think also.

 

Also disagree about him not being overly jokey. nearly every time topics get serious he jokes and/or grumps about some other thing.

 

Quotes have to wait for the morning.

 

Also, how is thought process normal when he assumes Darthe is being legit about a pop in doc soft?

 

 

who would vote someone who claims mafia roleblocker with their first post??  oh thatd be ME. and i was right.  therefore I dont just assume random little things like that arnt true

[Shad_]

Unless maybe one train is Mafia and another is voting someone else entirely or isnt there.

 

Does anyone fit the latter....wait who was Darthe voting....

This sounds like you're still highly suss of Darthe. I know we both agreed that he was being kind of fishy on D1 and 2. How have events since impacted your read?

[Shad_]

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Seph[/v]

 

Still WTV Celeste, but feel worse about Seph.

Does this read to anyone else like he's trying to NOT vote Celeste?

Note to self to look at Eldrick's stances on both of them at the time.

[Shad_]

Look at how easy this train is building. I honestly have been second guessing myself all game. I'm going with my gut here and saying she is town.

Ok so who are the wolves building her train?

[Shad_]

 

@ turin i asked him because of his who am i going to doc tonight comment. If i was mafia i probably would have shot him because of it

If this is who I think its about its the only reason Ive been holding back pushing him real hard.

 

But on the other hand he could make a post like this as either alignment and even a VT imo.

 

 

 

@ turin i asked him because of his who am i going to doc tonight comment. If i was mafia i probably would have shot him because of it

 

Really?? It's Darthe.

 

 

Ya what I was getting at.

 

I dont know really what it says about Dice tho. Hes seemed fairly Dice like with the exception of his sheeping Thane.

 

Again this just really isn't like you. I don't see Zander going "hmm, Darthe is hella suss but he did soft hint a PR and I know he does that as either alignment so I'm going to back off."

[Shad_]

I laughed when I posted that.

 

I mean come on.

[Shad_]

Well I'm current so I'm out, catch you all tonight.