MAFIA KART WII [BASIC] - Mafia Sweep

[Calder]

 

Where does your vote go if I tell you you're almost certainly wrong about Calder because I'm the best Calder-reader in the world and I've never been wrong about him?  I know it's not going on Celeste.  

 

Actually, on that note, pretend he's my Celeste.  Now what?

 

 

FEO Liz:

 

 

Do not pretend Calder is my A. Celeste though 

 

 

Assuming that I trust that you're town and not his scummate trying to save him?

 

My vote would probably go on Zev.

 

 

Don't need saving. But, your welcome to keep trying.

[Lizabeth]

Thing is about zev, this is his first game, and we shouldn't lynch him based on that alone in my opinion.

Ugh. Just ugh.

 

If he were playing but playing scummy, I could go with that argument.

 

But he's not playing. Which suggests that you're more invested in him staying in the game than he is.

[Calder]

 

 

 

 

 

And Liz. The only thing that makes a player good or bad is results. Presenting incorrect points and inaccurate suspicions in the acceptable format is worth nothing. Lynch Seph and everything else fades away, as town enjoys nabbing scum on D1.

this gave me a good laugh. thanks

 

 

You have multiple times now shown you are lurking around as you respond when called on. Why as town wouldn't you have been more involved then?

 

Why as town would you go from answering everything said against you? Then on the second time trying to brush it off? Then trying to sell being over it when it has been a civil conversation throughout?

 

this is he first time I have been back since I left... do you enjoy making crap up?

I was involved, and was basically shat on lol/ ignored.

calder the mind works in misterious ways, you should know that.

 

 

The first time was when I re-brought up this push and you showed up within a few minutes. You said you were caught up, but had made no posts since you had left and prior to engaging me. So that is in no way made up.

 

You were put on the defense and challenged. But, no one was trying to ignore you. It is the nature of the game.

 

I have been here the whole time since I got back rofl. I didn't leave?

 

 

I am discussing game related or posts with meat. Talking about whether or not you care isn't the same.

[Celeste]

I'm not sure who to vote for. Most of you are null except for the people who have spoken up.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

@Zander

Why does everyone keep asking me who I want lynched? IT'S SEPH.

Do i have to construct a shrine showing my victory over his evil prescence for people to know I am serious?

Ooh. Derivative! I like that. Whats your case?

 

Initially I voted him bc his opening post to me felt forced as hell. The generic opener and two immediate town reads. Then he gets light questioning over it and bends over backwards to overanswer things (while making it very clear he wasnt suspecting me for the questioning). Too cautious and trying to hard imo.

 

But, the argument that he is active and thats gonna be his gameplay would be valid, except as soon as his case isnt getting brought up he drops off the map. So his activity now suggests my initial points were true. His over eagerness was driven by suspicion being cast on him and overreacting. Bc he sure hasnt been around hunting has he?

 

I'll go back and reread him if I get the chance (taking me longer than I thought to catch up...shouldn't have complained so much about inactivity yesterday >.<), but I wasn't seeing what you were seeing. And his later points rang town to me. But I'll see... >.>

[Clovdyx]

 

Where does your vote go if I tell you you're almost certainly wrong about Calder because I'm the best Calder-reader in the world and I've never been wrong about him?  I know it's not going on Celeste.  

 

Actually, on that note, pretend he's my Celeste.  Now what?

 

 

FEO Liz:

 

 

Do not pretend Calder is my A. Celeste though 

 

 

Assuming that I trust that you're town and not his scummate trying to save him?

 

My vote would probably go on Zev.

 

 

Assuming that you trust I'm not the person you want to get into a fight with when I'm deciding somebody's off limits.  What you think my alignment is would be secondary.

 

For the record, I'm not prepared to put that much trust into Calder being town.  And I'm certainly going to say he's off limits.  I just want to see where your head's at.

[Calder]

 

I'm not going to support a Calder lynch at this point, unless he's the runaway counterwagon to one of my top townies.  Who do you think is a significantly better candidate, though?

Pourquoi pas? What do you see as the value to keeping him around at this point?

 

And who would you want to convince me to put my vote behind?

 

 

What's the point in keeping Calder around. We can all see he is just tunnelling Seph.

 

What's the point of keeping Liz around. We can all see he is just tunnelling Calder.

 

I don't know. I guess we should kill them both. I mean they are obviously both useless.

[Zander?]

I wish people who threatened to quit without being personally attacked would get mkd for doing so.

 

I find this post was offensive and was directed at me directly.

 

./out

 

 

with how you have been posting about penny lately, the earlier fiasco I think could be a good chance at distancing. If the time comes for that tinfoil

 

I dont think Penny and Liz are ever w/w in this game.

 

How does it feel like distancing to you?

[Clovdyx]

 

Thing is about zev, this is his first game, and we shouldn't lynch him based on that alone in my opinion.

Ugh. Just ugh.

 

If he were playing but playing scummy, I could go with that argument.

 

But he's not playing. Which suggests that you're more invested in him staying in the game than he is.

 

 

This doesn't make any goddamn sense.  If he were playing scummy, we shouldn't lynch him?  But the fact he's inactive means we should be willing to consider it?

[Calder]

 

 

Where does your vote go if I tell you you're almost certainly wrong about Calder because I'm the best Calder-reader in the world and I've never been wrong about him?  I know it's not going on Celeste.  

 

Actually, on that note, pretend he's my Celeste.  Now what?

 

 

FEO Liz:

 

 

Do not pretend Calder is my A. Celeste though 

 

 

Assuming that I trust that you're town and not his scummate trying to save him?

 

My vote would probably go on Zev.

 

 

Assuming that you trust I'm not the person you want to get into a fight with when I'm deciding somebody's off limits.  What you think my alignment is would be secondary.

 

For the record, I'm not prepared to put that much trust into Calder being town.  And I'm certainly going to say he's off limits.  I just want to see where your head's at.

 

 

You heard it straight from the mayor people. Calder is off limits.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Thing is about zev, this is his first game, and we shouldn't lynch him based on that alone in my opinion.

Ugh. Just ugh.

 

If he were playing but playing scummy, I could go with that argument.

 

But he's not playing. Which suggests that you're more invested in him staying in the game than he is.

 

somewhat. want to give him a good chance if he wants to play mafia. he is a bit busy right now as well.

[Clovdyx]

FFS not off limits 

[Calder]

FFS not off limits 

 

Calder: Excuse me Mayor

 

Clov:  Yes - Undeniably sexy gentleman in the front row.

 

Calder: InjuredReserve here from Cuddly Cat Quarterly. Mr. Mayor I have you on record as stating and I quote "Calder is off limits." Yet now your saying that is not the case. A man's very life is at stake. So your flip flopping on this major issue? 

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

Ftr im resisting the urge to push celeste right now. I don't think my motivation to do so is based in any rational evidence.

Sili, ive mostly let up on you. I dont have enough to warrant the confidence I want in my read, but your logic sucks either way so ill call that every time I see it.

Clov you seem a bit reserved so far and Calder you seem too friendly. Both are hardly worth mention usually but hell with it im gonna do so anyhow.

Go on...

That..That was it..

You enjoy friendly Calder?

Are you really asking me that?

....

 

I was trying not to clog up the thread with too many catchup replies, but I have to ask.

 

What do you think is the significance of Calder being too friendly? Because in my experience, players who are not typically friendly as town are often friendly when they're scum. It's a big ole red flag for them. But I don't know Calder. So help me out.

I dont know him well enough to say with confidence

[Calder]

SHRN

[Celeste]

I'm actually think Zander has a chance to be scum here.

[Zander?]

I meant to address this earlier, but between EoD in the game I'm modding and becoming increasingly annoyed at...other things...I got distracted.

 

 

Mostly okay with these reads.  A few things I'm not sure where you're at.

 

-Lainey.  I know you two have a history of reading eachother quickly, and yeah...she has taken a bit of a cautious approach to your slot, but I don't know.  I really don't feel she's been that engaged at all.  She was actually the secret deepwolf candidate I mentioned before.  I have no why idea why I don't want to trust her at this point, but something doesn't feel right about her.  I don't think there's an argument that could make me lynch her over your bottom four (I'd probably toss Hallia down there, as well), and maybe I just need to interact with her more...but it just feels like she's being more observational than anything.  

 

-Are Calder and Sili about even?  That comment about Sili not taking that approach seems like he'd be above somebody you're mostly null on, no matter how much you disagree with his approach.

 

-How does Seph's progress effect your read on him, since it basically stems with his reasoning for Calder?  And I'm not sure I agree with the fact his start was particularly strong, unless you mean he got involved early, in which case I'd concede the point.

 

 

-Me.  Don't feel this is directed solely at you, because it's not, but I'm getting real tired of these caveats from basically everybody.  If you think I'm town, say it.  If you don't, say that.  I don't really care what people's reads of me are, but all of you tiptoeing around assessing me and setting up for a garbage push if I don't draw the nightkill immediately is really starting to annoy me.

 

I dont hate your thoughts on Lainey even tho Im not seeing it the same way and she certainly can fool me but she's certainly still within her Town range and Ive made my points irt her.

 

I just didnt know where to place Sili because he's been so wtf to me this game.  Like his posts themselves scream Scum to me but on the other hand I dont see Scum doing that at all.

 

Calder is still pretty null to me because I dont really know how to read him but I have liked some of his posts hence the hint of green.

 

Seph just jumped to Calder for reasons Im not seeing.  And yes it was the latter.

 

I have you as Town.  Im sorry you feel that way and I can see where youre coming from with it but your GOATness affects you in both positive and negative ways.

 

I havent played much with you and that was one of the first things I had heard about you before playing together.

 

I mean do you have a problem with me thinking you fully capable of fooling me?

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ftr im resisting the urge to push celeste right now. I don't think my motivation to do so is based in any rational evidence.

Sili, ive mostly let up on you. I dont have enough to warrant the confidence I want in my read, but your logic sucks either way so ill call that every time I see it.

Clov you seem a bit reserved so far and Calder you seem too friendly. Both are hardly worth mention usually but hell with it im gonna do so anyhow.

Go on...

That..That was it..

You enjoy friendly Calder?

Are you really asking me that?

....

 

I was trying not to clog up the thread with too many catchup replies, but I have to ask.

 

What do you think is the significance of Calder being too friendly? Because in my experience, players who are not typically friendly as town are often friendly when they're scum. It's a big ole red flag for them. But I don't know Calder. So help me out.

I dont know him well enough to say with confidence

 

 

Oooh!  Pick me, pick me!

[Darthe]

I'm actually think Zander has a chance to be scum here.

I was thinking that about you

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ftr im resisting the urge to push celeste right now. I don't think my motivation to do so is based in any rational evidence.

Sili, ive mostly let up on you. I dont have enough to warrant the confidence I want in my read, but your logic sucks either way so ill call that every time I see it.

Clov you seem a bit reserved so far and Calder you seem too friendly. Both are hardly worth mention usually but hell with it im gonna do so anyhow.

Go on...

That..That was it..

You enjoy friendly Calder?

Are you really asking me that?

....

 

I was trying not to clog up the thread with too many catchup replies, but I have to ask.

 

What do you think is the significance of Calder being too friendly? Because in my experience, players who are not typically friendly as town are often friendly when they're scum. It's a big ole red flag for them. But I don't know Calder. So help me out.

I dont know him well enough to say with confidence

Oooh! Pick me, pick me!

Sure, ill tag you in. Lets DP his slot

[Calder]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ftr im resisting the urge to push celeste right now. I don't think my motivation to do so is based in any rational evidence.

Sili, ive mostly let up on you. I dont have enough to warrant the confidence I want in my read, but your logic sucks either way so ill call that every time I see it.

Clov you seem a bit reserved so far and Calder you seem too friendly. Both are hardly worth mention usually but hell with it im gonna do so anyhow.

Go on...

That..That was it..

You enjoy friendly Calder?

Are you really asking me that?

....

 

I was trying not to clog up the thread with too many catchup replies, but I have to ask.

 

What do you think is the significance of Calder being too friendly? Because in my experience, players who are not typically friendly as town are often friendly when they're scum. It's a big ole red flag for them. But I don't know Calder. So help me out.

I dont know him well enough to say with confidence

Oooh! Pick me, pick me!

Sure, ill tag you in. Lets DP his slot

 

 

Oh Darthe are you already trying?

 

I have to ask bc I can't feel it.

[Celeste]

 

I'm actually think Zander has a chance to be scum here.

I was thinking that about you

I don't know if your trying to poke my buttons but this isn't going to work.

[Darthe]

Turnabout's fair play.. David.

[Darthe]

 

 

I'm actually think Zander has a chance to be scum here.

I was thinking that about you

I don't know if your trying to poke my buttons but this isn't going to work.

Yeah probably not, but thats the best I can do. Im not a very strong player tbh... Dont know how to aggress well. But that doesnt mean you arent a wolf!

[Clovdyx]

I dont hate your thoughts on Lainey even tho Im not seeing it the same way and she certainly can fool me but she's certainly still within her Town range and Ive made my points irt her.

 

I just didnt know where to place Sili because he's been so wtf to me this game.  Like his posts themselves scream Scum to me but on the other hand I dont see Scum doing that at all.

 

Calder is still pretty null to me because I dont really know how to read him but I have liked some of his posts hence the hint of green.

 

Seph just jumped to Calder for reasons Im not seeing.  And yes it was the latter.

 

I have you as Town.  Im sorry you feel that way and I can see where youre coming from with it but your GOATness affects you in both positive and negative ways.

 

I havent played much with you and that was one of the first things I had heard about you before playing together.

 

I mean do you have a problem with me thinking you fully capable of fooling me?

 

 

Blue - Yeah, Sili used to drive me crazy in games.  I basically stopped trying to understand in a way that I can relate to and just sort of trying to figure out if he was blatantly lying through his teeth.  Mixed results but I don't know what else to do.

 

Red - Jumped to him being mafia or jumped to him being town?  Because he's done both now.

 

 

As for me... do I have an issue with you thinking that?  Not really.  I probably could fool you.  I think basically everybody on this site (and most sites I've played on) would agree I'm an all right player.  But I'm pretty sure you've never even seen me as mafia, so for you to have this fear in the back of your mind that I'm owning you is frustrating.  And it happens to me basically every game.  

 

I mean, I'm not going to apologize for NOT always dying during N1, and I'm certainly not going to accept having dirt kicked on me because the mafia didn't shoot on me during the nonexistent N0 in games.