Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Sooh]

No, you were trying to say that my ACTIONS were scummy. 

 

I was asking what ACTIONS those might be. 

 

I'm well aware that bussing is a thing, but I also believe that bussing at this early a stage in a game with this many PRs would not be playing to my wincon in any particular way. When I am scum I try to avoid bussing as much as I possibly  can, because I will need mislynches in order to win, and by participating in lynches of one or several team mates isn't helping me at all. Especially coming in to a game late as I did I would definitely expect my team mates to bus me rather than having me bus them, because it's easier to get town cred when you've been here all along. 

 

In terms of reading replacements based on effort I'll say that your theories there are 50/50 at best. If this town didn't already have a number of PRs that are more or less confirmed to me, and town had been mislynching left and right the three first days my effort would probably have been very different. I would expect a scum replacing in to this game in a situation where their team was going down would be making more of an effort too.

 

That said, all of this is wifom. Same as your reasons for sussing me.

[Eldrick4221]

Another reason I believe dice is because he claimed Slimer. Considering the flips already, the mafia is probably the ghostbusters team.

 

Sure, it could be a fake claim, but he started the game soft claiming a ghost. It's unlikely.

 

I know it isn't much, but it's there.

[Eldrick4221]

I covered what ACTIONS I thought were scummy. Your votes. Your mentioning that said votes should clear you as town. Your ignoring shads posts as you read. Your lack of effort, which I will stick to as a reason until you start producing results.

 

You asked what minimal effort, and that was directly referencing your effort at reading the thread.

[Sooh]

I covered what ACTIONS I thought were scummy. Your votes. Your mentioning that said votes should clear you as town. Your ignoring shads posts as you read. Your lack of effort, which I will stick to as a reason until you start producing results.

 

You asked what minimal effort, and that was directly referencing your effort at reading the thread.

I didn't ask about my minimal effort.

 

You're telling me that my votes on two scums count for nothing because I COULD be bussing. Tell me now how to defend against that. What would you like me to say? You're effectively taking my already low level of motivation to read this entire game and pushing it down in the mud, making me have absolutely no desire to neither read nor help this town any more at all. 

 

By all means, vote me tomorrow. I feel like I have already won taking part in two scum lynches as a replacement.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ask the MOD: if a GF is viewed twice will the second one come back true? Or will they always view townie?

 

 

Answer the TURIN: You seem to be under the impression that this is some kind of open set up game.

 

Pafo.

[Turin Turambar]

Fair Enough. Thanks.

[Turin Turambar]

Another reason I believe dice is because he claimed Slimer. Considering the flips already, the mafia is probably the ghostbusters team.

 

Sure, it could be a fake claim, but he started the game soft claiming a ghost. It's unlikely.

 

I know it isn't much, but it's there.

I have to say this us a bad reason to have Dice town. Who would immediately KNOW the Ghostbusters are the mafia? So who would KNOW that claiming a ghost could look good? (Side observation the townies so far have actually been human) I could see Dice running with a,Slimer fakeclaim right from the start. Aalya Secura anybody?

 

 

Tsuki, Hallia, would you mind giving your characters? I know it means little to you but I think it might be informative.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Blue Jedi. Super cool. I got the lego keyring and everything :)

[Tsukibana]

 

Another reason I believe dice is because he claimed Slimer. Considering the flips already, the mafia is probably the ghostbusters team.

 

Sure, it could be a fake claim, but he started the game soft claiming a ghost. It's unlikely.

 

I know it isn't much, but it's there.

I have to say this us a bad reason to have Dice town. Who would immediately KNOW the Ghostbusters are the mafia? So who would KNOW that claiming a ghost could look good? (Side observation the townies so far have actually been human) I could see Dice running with a,Slimer fakeclaim right from the start. Aalya Secura anybody?

 

 

Tsuki, Hallia, would you mind giving your characters? I know it means little to you but I think it might be informative.

Interesting... I am human - the college girl from the opening scene whom Bill Murray pretended was psychic while zapping the guy (also caused me to tinfoil the Mod on a delusional cop setup, BTW)

[Turin Turambar]

Maybe the word you are looking for is naive...

 

Interesting, very interesting.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Just over 26 hours

 

 

End of Night 3

 

unless I get everything before then.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Don't ask me why it's bridal style. Stupid mobile phone

[Ithillian Turambar]

And feel free to get in touch sooner. Of course it's the weekend and chill time but I'm about if you are :)

[Turin Turambar]

For anyone that may not be aware a naive cop will always get a TOWN or NOT MAFIA result.

 

 

 

I would need my computer out to ISO Alanna. That probably is not happening tonight.

[Turin Turambar]

 

1. Turin: Dana Barrett - Town Neighbor

2. Eldrick: claimed Librarian Ghost - VT: peeked town??? Weird interactions with Shad. I disagree with his reasoning on Dice, it felt like defending a teammate.

3. Niniel: Fairly engaged. More likely town. I only missing to me is the edge she can have to her questioning.

4. Tsuki: claimed Fake Psychic Girl - Town Cop: no cc. I am pretty confident he is town.

5. BFG Nikon replaced Night 2: catching up. I actually like the Shad vote because he had cover to ignore the train.

6. Zander - Louis Tully - Town Neighbour- Lynched Day 1

7. Dice: claimed Slimer - Town Treestump: lack of townie mindset.

8. Lenlo Sooh replaced Day 2: still catching up. feels more likely town just because the people I think are mafia are pushing here.

9. Shad - Egon Spengler - Mafia - Used Kill action and Block action - Lynched Day 3

10. Rey - Lenny Clotch, The Mayor - Town Governor - Killed Night 2

11. John McClane Hallia replaced Day 1: claimed ??? - Town Doc: I believe her.

12. RTE - Winston Zeddemore - Mafia Symp - Lynched Day 2

13. Alanna: wolves try too. I don't like the foot dragging on voting Shad.

 

My wtl list at present is

Alanna

Dice

Eldrick

 

I think both our mafia are in there.

[alannalynn]

Oh wow! I was unsure about one wolf! Because town can't be unsure? Give me a break Turin

[alannalynn]

I love how you're setting up the naive cop scenario so you can lynch whoever you want to, too, that's just grand

[Turin Turambar]

Funny coming from you. You did vote the un-cc'd cop after he claimed.

 

I'm one vote. I'm not lynching anyone by myself. It takes a village.

[Eldrick4221]

In retrospect, RTE's claim should have been an obvious lie. There is no subway ghost.

[Tsukibana]

For anyone that may not be aware a naive cop will always get a TOWN or NOT MAFIA result.

 

 

 

I would need my computer out to ISO Alanna. That probably is not happening tonight.

 

Turin, are you saying a Naive Cop will never get a No Result reply?

[Tsukibana]

Another thought, Setup Tinfoil - Mere Mortals vs. Ghostbusters vs. Ghosts????

[alannalynn]

Naive cop just always gets back a town peek. If they're role blocked, of course it's no result.

[alannalynn]

But I highly doubt we have a naive cop in this game. Turin's just probably scum.

[Tsukibana]

Keep in mind, Turin didn't "set up a Naive Cop scenario" - I'm the one who mentioned it, because my character is such a nobody, and most assuredly NOT psychic...

Additionally, I only said I tinfoiled the possibility, but I don't see Ithi going Bastard Mod on us.

[Eldrick4221]

 

4 People voted for me... Statistically, 1 scum. Find him.

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Lynn is at the top of my list. Too emotional, too quick to join on my wagon and agree with everything against me...
 
[v]Allanalynn[/v] (spell that right?)

[unvote]
 

Votes on you are certainly worth revisiting.  Something to do when I'm caught up.  I don't care to make an immediate assumption in that regard when I thought you were fairly scummy.  I don't remember the others off the top of my head, but Laine's mirrored my own thoughts a good bit and I can't really hate that.

 

 

UN-Official Vote Count - Day 1

Dice (1/7): Turin
Tsuki (4/7): Rey, Shad, Niniel, Alanna
Turin (3/7): John?, Dice, Zander

Not voting

(5)- Tsuki, BFG, Lenlo, Eldrick, RTE


With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 14 April @ 9 PM BST

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with Tsukibana here when he says: 
 

 

 

@ Turin: Did not pursue ghost claim because I knew someone would pull an Eldrick... See below... 1 Townie ghost, maybe. 2?? Inconceivable... One of the two is shank-worthy.

But I obviously think he's talking nonsense when he says: 
 

 

 

 Rey says Towny too often to be sincere - SERIOUS

 

I think I am going to enjoy playing with Rey.

Teammates - SERIOUS

 

Serious about Rey... me thinketh he protests too hard.

I haven't been challenged on anything to protest at all. 

To my knowledge, there are no "good ghosts" in the film. However, lets not work on the assumption that the mod hasn't tweaked things around here. Everyone knows mods make changes to setups and are not necessarily ever always adherent to the original material. I think its reasonable to assume that Tsukibana knows this.

If we assume that statistically, at least one of Turin plus his yolo team (Zander, Dice, Tsukibana) are scum, my money is on Tsukibana right now. I get the feeling either Dice or Eldrick are also his pals. ​Dice, your post on not wanting to answer comes across as shady. 

To that end, Vote: Tsukibana.

I'd like to hear more from Shad and BFG, who haven't said a lot of much. 

 

 

 

Not sure what to make of Turin yet, but Dice isn't bothering me.

I'm feeling spicy enough for early trains though.

[V]Tsukibana[/v]

 

 

I´m joining the Tsuki wagon.

 

[v] Tsuki [/v]

 

 

 

 

I went back and Tsuki actually pings me but for another reason.

 

 

alanna is new to me... Hate that opening, smells funky as hell...

 

dice claimed ghost *nods*... but claimed Townie ghost? O.o

 

Rey says Towny too often to be sincere

 

Turin is scum, because he married Ithi. Also, his favorite dessert is apparently Trifles... words are hard.

 

I think I am going to enjoy playing with Rey.

Teammates

 

Hi, BFG <3

 

 

 

Now I'm silly AND funky

 

 

And emo

 

Don´t know where he is going with this. 

 

 

I just reread the whole thread. I didn't personally have an issue with Tsuki. Both of you apparently do, but neither are voting him. Interesting.

 

@Turin, your problem with him seems to be that he doesn't have a problem with dice soft claiming a ghost. I personally know this isn't an issue. As I have already mentioned, I am a town ghost. It must just be flavor.

 

@Niniel, I don't see what you're getting at. Can you explain?

 

 

 

How do you defend against words like funky and emo. Throwing suspiciouns (or at least trying) on Laine without anything more than two words that doesn´t mean anything. 

 

@ Rey, the phrase "protests too hard' meant you said towny way too often in the first couple of pages... should I actually count?

 

Lol, you agree with me and then vote me... *shakes finger*

 

Thin. Because Rey voted Tsuki?

 

 

 

but it IS him SAYING town 3 times :P

 

But it isn't the issue you are making it out to be.

 

He's also not the first person to say it. Turin did it too. Why aren't you getting on his case for doing that too?

 

 

Im not making it an issue, Rey is.

 

I'm always on Turin's case.

 

Why are you white-kinghting? Or do you have a reason for defending Rey and pointing me at Turin you wish to elucidate?

 

 

I think Eldrick was asking a good question.

 

 

Direct Replies

 

alanna is new to me... Hate that opening, smells funky as hell... - SERIOUS
 
dice claimed ghost *nods*... but claimed Townie ghost? O.o - SERIOUS
 
Rey says Towny too often to be sincere - SERIOUS
 
Turin is scum, because he married Ithi. Also, his favorite dessert is apparently Trifles... words are hard. - JOKRIOUS - Not Kidding... Turin is always scum until proven innocent - I remember that much :)
 

I think I am going to enjoy playing with Rey.

Teammates - SERIOUS
 
Hi, BFG <3 - SERIOUS

 

 

Turin wanted to know what was serious or joking... so here.
Allana comes in all cheerful-like, tell me about yourself, A/S/L like this is an AOL chat room. I don't like that, hence smells funky. Then she ignores it for 3-4 pages? Give me something to tunnel at.
 
@ Turin: Did not pursue ghost claim because I knew someone would pull an Eldrick... See below... 1 Townie ghost, maybe. 2?? Inconceivable... One of the two is shank-worthy.
 
Serious about Rey... me thinketh he protests too hard.
 
Again... Turin is scum until proven innocent. For 'reasons'... BUT, all jokes aside, I read Turin as Town atm due to year-old meta recollections... *shrug*
 
Serious - latch onto one insignificant slip up and catch the whole team. Was this the slip?
 
Serious - Duh

I don't think ghost = scum
 
I'm a ghost too.
 
i haven't seen the whole movie, but are all ghosts bad ghosts?

 GhostBUSTERS... You or Dice are on the naughty list.
Also, how the blazes have you not seen this movie? How old are you?

 

Ohhhh I can't even articulate how much I hate this post! First of all, his reads were all serious. That's like me scum reading Cory because he doens't like sour cream or calling Zander a wolf because he has a beard.

You seriously didn't like my entrance because I wanted to know a little bit about players I've never talked to before? It was a conversation starter to see who you are and where you're at as far as experience with the game. I think that's a pretty legitimate way to get information about other players and get conversation going.

Secondly, nobody is scum until proven innocent. Because someone is only proven inno by coroner report or cop peek. That's it. Hence starting people at null and valuing their performance +/- from that point. I don't like starting anyone at scum, because they're much more likely to be town anyways. (Wolves are minority or something?)

About saying "town" too often: this is a general tell that isn't a tell and means nothing. Should be null for any alignment.

Lastly, saying "if there are multiple ghosts, one must be town and the other scum" is setting up lynches and is disgusting. You have no idea how the mod set up the game, you have no idea whether the characters are 100% of their alignment so basically the only reason you'd want to make this assumption is to push a lynch which is scummy and bad. (Rey points this out on #232 apparently, + for him)

[v]Tsuki[/v]

And again, on this post. Do you REALLY think that Wolf!ghost!Eldrick would claim ghost if he really was a wolfy ghost? lol if you think people just straight up claim mafia around here.

#237 #238 OMG Tsuki's pushes are WEAK

/stopping at the top of 13 in my catchup for a moment before my post gets too long

 

 

 

He never revisited this, AFAICT. Not sure if this means anything about Tsuki, Nini, or Laine.

 

It just caught my attention that he responded to Tsuki's claim by pointing out Tsuki's comment about his train, so I went back to dig up the information about said train.