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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Zander (4): Turin, Calder, Darthe, Lenlo

Darthe (3): Eldrick, Zander, Hallia

Thane (1): Laine

 

Not Voting: BFG, Kronos, Sooh, Thane, manbat

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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Darthe Spam Master

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Zander is a bit of a conundrum. On one hand he is as eager as Buttermilk and pushing anyone and everyone, and on the other he's slightly agreeable. I lean towards this being a towny Zander and I welcome the change in agreeableness.

This and the next post I quote (hally post) are odd in hindsight

Darthe Spam Master

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[V] zander [/v]

Why?

 

I have seen Zander be agreeable and not as town.

Agreeable how so?

Actually, points for asking about it way back here. Im hunting for the next time you mentioned me show yur read development or lack thereof but this has caught my eye

Darthe Spam Master

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Oh right. You want to catch him before he has a chance to do that.

Good God I love you Eldrick.

Show a glimmer of intelligence. You're still here and I have one vote. Its not as if anyone was going to hammer you while you were gone.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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Town!Zander will show himself later.

This is all ask anyone should ever need to understand the dissonance required for your internal logic to make sense here.

 

 

Oh you mean Townies never get frustrated right...I mean thats not ever a thing.

 

Your case against me allows for nothing else but what you WANT it to.

Darthe Spam Master

Darthe

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Yet you liked Darthe's vote on me which was apparently due to asking him to explain his votes?

Yes at first because you hardly posted at the beginning and then you came in being vague just saying people were Town.

Which isn't why Darthe voted me

I dont have to agree with the same reasons to like a vote on someone,

Like my vote here. Still no change in read sincei trended up the day before.

Darthe Spam Master

Darthe

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Town!Zander will show himself later.

This is all ask anyone should ever need to understand the dissonance required for your internal logic to make sense here.

Oh you mean Townies never get frustrated right...I mean thats not ever a thing.

 

Your case against me allows for nothing else but what you WANT it to.

Well then im sure you shouldnt bother voting me because, after all, town darthe will show himself later.

 

You can trust that, right?

Darthe Spam Master

Darthe

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Okay yeah, I couldnt find read development. I went up from page 20 to 40 and got that early game you voted me, I trended up then I wound up at the bottom of your list after voting you.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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Lol sorry, food was ready :)

 

I'm town no matter zander's flip, but I understand. I hope I'm reading him right today

 

Don't hate your reads though

 

Please note this, like Ive said Lainey reads me quite well and her whole case against me stems from early on in part due to what she calls a weak push but yet agrees with and NOTHING else.

 

No re evaluating or nothing.  Theres 0 progression from her at all.

 

 

 

I will probably not be awake or will be in class when deadline comes around, so wherever I vote before I sleep tonight is probably where im staying.

 

ATM I would love an Eldrick lynch. Dude is wolfy. Am very much considering moving over to Zander because of how hes been under the pressure.

Eldrick aint gonna die today I dont think. Id appreciate your help destroying zander though.

 

Tbh, id still rather is do an EoD CFD and im still content with lynching wbk

 

 

ummmmm what? 

 

Youve flat out said you OUTED me but yet youre talking about a CFD onto WBK?

 

 

I will probably not be awake or will be in class when deadline comes around, so wherever I vote before I sleep tonight is probably where im staying.

 

ATM I would love an Eldrick lynch. Dude is wolfy. Am very much considering moving over to Zander because of how hes been under the pressure. 

 

Lenlo if youre Town which I think you are please re evaluate me, is handling pressure poorly more likely to come from Town!Zander of Scum!Zander?

 

I know it can be faked but just want you to think on it.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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I lied I dont have the energy tonight so I'm going to take some pain meds and pass out. I'll be around in the morning before DL. I still want to lynch Zander but I think Thane has some 'splaining to do. Might have 2 wolves.

 

In what world does this make sense?

 

 

There's some truth to that I suppose Zander.  I voted you initially when IIRC you had a couple of points made against you and you gave the poor response you quote above.  It pings, as we used to say.

 

Since then you've really provided a lot of reasons for me to maintain my vote.  Had you not done that it likely would have moved by now.  Votes are fluid like that.

 

In any case, best of luck to you responding to the rest of it.  After seven hours I hope you've got some really good stuff cooked up, you're gonna need it.

 

Goodnight.

 

Like bolded is pretty telling imo.

 

I'll give you that I have reacted poorly but even your point against that you used from BFG about liking your vote on her, she later after I explained it, that it was fine.

 

All your reasoning comes from AFTER you voted me.  You have NO real progression on before before you drop your vote.

 

 

 

 

Truly fascinating.

 

So who you lynchin?

Good question.

 

Youve been looking better the last little bit.

 

I dont hate your BFG vote atp.

 

Need to see more from other players like Sooh, Hallia WBK.

 

Like to give Lainey some more time.

 

For now tho:

 

[v] unvote [/v]

 

[v] Calder [/v]

 

Ztill up, idk why. Read back, found this later post. Im trending up to you. Also found some of my early sus of you in a post ill quote in a sec

 

 

Yes I did say you were trending up, did I say you were Town?  Did I say I cleared you?

 

I liked some of your points and was willing to look elsewhere.

 

Lets see this other stuff.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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Well I've gotta tell you it shocks me to hear that you'd give me a pass for "looking better the last little bit" in a game that's two days old.

Remains true

 

 

 

Using your logic here:

 

Players who know me, is this "pass" hes talking about more likely to come from Town!Zander or Scum!Zander.

 

Look at Diablo (I was Scum) , I kept pushing Yates D2 even after he later reveals he Cop peeked me.

 

Look at Chrono Trigger (I was Scum) I went at AJ D1 and kept on him non stop.

 

Hell even look at Matrix where I bussed Len D1 till he got lynched. And same in World of Warcraft where I bussed Lenbot.

 

Unless I'm super confident on someone as Town!Zander, the likelyhood of me re evaluating is much higher then when Im scum

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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I think you're right and there's plenty of reason to lynch zander

 

I just want to see how the people not here respond to the case first before I make any judgement

In the mean time I'm going to continue to create hell for him, I've got tons of ammo.

 

For instance, Zander why aren't you voting the other people who voted you? They posted less reasoning than I did. BFG and Laine posted more than them and haven't voted you yet you've critiqued the both of them for sussing you. Where is the consistency?

Im only voting you because I think youre a wolf, the only person Id have considered doing this to his Lainey, but then again, she just thinks I'm Scum from like pretty early on but hasnt done anything else at all with it nor voted me herself.

If you think it then show it. You and hally and eldrick have said you think im a wolf a lot but none of you have provided a reason. I at least back up my accusations.

 

 

I havent?

 

Id say Ive provided more reasoning for my vote on you before I voted then you did.

 

And some of the stuff you used were sheeped off of other players like BFG.

 

Dude you vote me like 4 hours before the reasoning you used to vote me.

 

 

 

 

Like,miss really weird to have reads so counter to everyone else's. On the other hand, why would a wolf purposely row out a reads list that's going to get noticed, going to get heat and is counter to everyone else's?

We'll have a much better understanding once she lays out her read on me cause she reads me quite well.

Noting for later

 

 

Yep this is exactly what I want.  Funny youre pointing it out.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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Zander is a bit of a conundrum. On one hand he is as eager as Buttermilk and pushing anyone and everyone, and on the other he's slightly agreeable. I lean towards this being a towny Zander and I welcome the change in agreeableness.

This and the next post I quote (hally post) are odd in hindsight

 

 

 

 

I have seen Zander be agreeable and not as town.

Theyre right together

 

 

 

 

I'm actually feeling better about Sooh.

 

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Then on the next page.hally does this

 

 

 

 

 

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[V] zander [/v]

Why?

 

I have seen Zander be agreeable and not as town.

Agreeable how so?

Actually, points for asking about it way back here. Im hunting for the next time you mentioned me show yur read development or lack thereof but this has caught my eye

 

 

Wow another admitted good point Ive made against your push against me.

 

Where all that bravado now Darthe,  wheres that Ive outted Zander as Scum cockiness?

 

IMO you tried to take advantage of my freakout and thought I wouldnt come back to prove you wrong.

 

You said you were willing to bleed, come on DartheGOAT, you should have no problem wrecking Scum!Zander as you say.

 

You pissed me off, now deal with me.

Hallia Spam Master

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I think you're right and there's plenty of reason to lynch zander

 

I just want to see how the people not here respond to the case first before I make any judgement

In the mean time I'm going to continue to create hell for him, I've got tons of ammo.

 

For instance, Zander why aren't you voting the other people who voted you? They posted less reasoning than I did. BFG and Laine posted more than them and haven't voted you yet you've critiqued the both of them for sussing you. Where is the consistency?

Im only voting you because I think youre a wolf, the only person Id have considered doing this to his Lainey, but then again, she just thinks I'm Scum from like pretty early on but hasnt done anything else at all with it nor voted me herself.

If you think it then show it. You and hally and eldrick have said you think im a wolf a lot but none of you have provided a reason. I at least back up my accusations.

 

 

I have provided reasoning.  Just because you don't like it and would rather fling insults than play a game is not my problem.

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Zander if you're town I believe in you

And fwiw I don't see the case agains tax you as particularly condemning atm

 

 

 

I think you're right and there's plenty of reason to lynch zander

I just want to see how the people not here respond to the case first before I make any judgement

 

 

So Monstr do you think I'm Town or not?

 

This is a quick flip of opinion unless i'm reading this incorrectly.

I don't know yet

 

I think there is plenty of reason to lynch you because people in the thread are obviously quite willing to do so, but I also think there is plenty of reason to think you're town, which is why I haven't voted you yet

 

Like I said before, I feel like we'really playing with half a game and it makes me think that the half the game that isn't playing contains many scums

 

Particularly in the hallia/thane/wbk group

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Zander?

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Oh right. You want to catch him before he has a chance to do that.

Good God I love you Eldrick.

Show a glimmer of intelligence. You're still here and I have one vote. Its not as if anyone was going to hammer you while you were gone.

 

 

I was pointing out how someone takes ALL things into consideration and is willing to give someone a chance to prove or condemn themselves.

 

Knowing I'm Town, Im inclined to believe Scum!Eldrick never says this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet you liked Darthe's vote on me which was apparently due to asking him to explain his votes?

Yes at first because you hardly posted at the beginning and then you came in being vague just saying people were Town.

Which isn't why Darthe voted me

I dont have to agree with the same reasons to like a vote on someone,

Like my vote here. Still no change in read sincei trended up the day before.

 

 

Funny BFG was fine with my response tho, why didnt you quote that one?

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