[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

[Thane Vakarian]

NK on Turin: He  was being viewed as town by a lot of people. Not a likely mislynch option this game, so I guess the wolves wanted to get rid of him quickly.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

 

Which is one of the reasons I am going easy on Sooh. She could have as well voted me and I don't think I would have been a difficult target. It doesn't absolve her but moves her slightly up.

But why? TownSooh would have gone for either you or Zander, because that's what her read list indicated. She backed off Zander cause she was getting negative attention, that's as clear as day. She said it was because no one was listening to her and he wasn't gonna be the lynch that day or ever so she was looking elsewhere... but that's false because a train of him was building later on and she never went back there. Why? That reads to me as someone who's worried that the negative attention would resurface if she did. And why not lean on you and figure out your slot if she was suspicious? She never did with the deadline still half a day or more away. I just don't get her vote on Nolder if she didn't find him scummy... and according to her very own read list? she didn't.

This is worth resolving. If sooh...I mean turin flips scum, then we probably have scum in Pral too.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Turin [/v]

 

... this makes me cringe. Why doesn't it make anybody else wonder and look more closely? FTR: I do like Pral's posting and doubt he's wolf. I do not think that Turin2 and Pral are connected. 

 

 

 

Which is one of the reasons I am going easy on Sooh. She could have as well voted me and I don't think I would have been a difficult target. It doesn't absolve her but moves her slightly up.

 

But why? TownSooh would have gone for either you or Zander, because that's what her read list indicated. She backed off Zander cause she was getting negative attention, that's as clear as day. She said it was because no one was listening to her and he wasn't gonna be the lynch that day or ever so she was looking elsewhere... but that's false because a train of him was building later on and she never went back there. Why? That reads to me as someone who's worried that the negative attention would resurface if she did. And why not lean on you and figure out your slot if she was suspicious? She never did with the deadline still half a day or more away. I just don't get her vote on Nolder if she didn't find him scummy... and according to her very own read list? she didn't.

 

Think about it this way. If it was scum!sooh and she was worried about negative attention, why would she go and vote nolder whose train was already building and she would get back the negative attention anyway after his flip. Especially since he was not in her scum list at that point in the game. That situation would only work if sooh/zander was w/w and she was trying to distance and then backed off later.

 

This is one of the posts that make me feel alright about Pral. He's calm, analyzing and clearly expressing what he thinks. He could do that as a wolf too, but it's not the impression i get off of it.

 

Consider my vote promised on Turin.

 

Funny lily moved me up lolol

 

[V]thane [/v] for funsies

i you too

 

Anyway, [v]Zander[/v]

Considering my previous comments, this isn't too bad actually. I can see where Pral's at, so i understand the vote. I do think someone else deserves a vote, where i will get to in a bit.

 

 

 

 

Which is one of the reasons I am going easy on Sooh. She could have as well voted me and I don't think I would have been a difficult target. It doesn't absolve her but moves her slightly up.

But why? TownSooh would have gone for either you or Zander, because that's what her read list indicated. She backed off Zander cause she was getting negative attention, that's as clear as day. She said it was because no one was listening to her and he wasn't gonna be the lynch that day or ever so she was looking elsewhere... but that's false because a train of him was building later on and she never went back there. Why? That reads to me as someone who's worried that the negative attention would resurface if she did. And why not lean on you and figure out your slot if she was suspicious? She never did with the deadline still half a day or more away. I just don't get her vote on Nolder if she didn't find him scummy... and according to her very own read list? she didn't.

This is worth resolving. If sooh...I mean turin flips scum, then we probably have scum in Pral too.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Turin [/v]

 

 

 

[unvote]

 

Still willing to vote there. Want to slow the train down and hear from other people.

 

Just more awfulness from Eldrick

 

Zander sees something i do too here. So, even when i understand why Pral votes Zan, Z-man gets the same feel from Eldrick as I do. There might be hope for Zander to redeem himself after all.

 

Yes. Look. She voted someone she had in null following her town reads. The other people voting Z were both lower reads (even if both are now confirmed dead townies ;) Which is something that might weigh into your decision) Probably not tho.

Did you get the chance to talk to Sooh, or can you talk to her, to figure out some reasoning of hers, or are you on your own? 

 

 

I don't know what I have done to take away your enjoyment of this game but I am sorry for whatever it may have been.

 

I guess my requests will be denied and you insist on lynching me so I will give you at present my want to lynch list And I will go to enjoy the rest of my evening.

 

Alanna: I think I have covered this ad nauseam but here it is again- begging to be town read. Attempts to just dismiss without refuting any claims against her.Voted Nol for pressure. Not liking the interaction with Z. All of today's posts feel like lolcatting or AtE. I'm all the scenarios in my head Alanna is mafia every time.

 

Lily: this is a change. There were warning signs of mafia!Lily D1. The immediate backing off of every case. The questions about how to find mafia. It reminded.me of the one time we were on a mafia team together. BG's wheel of time book game. I think BG ran it anyway. The unneeded vote to L-1 made Nol lynch.inevitable(cwidt?)

 

Nyn: she drove the Nol lynch and her justification is that he is a bad selfish player. Now I'm gonna be treated badly too. Hopefully people will see the truth upon my death.

 

Z: I am really starting to think he is just off the raild and pocketed by Alanna but I could be wrong. Go back and look for all of Turins posts on him.

 

Eldrick: going with the flow. Look at his postings today.

 

Lynch from this list now and profit. Probably not gonna happen but at Least look at it after I'm dead.

 

Good night and good luck. If I'm still alive in the morning maybe I will look at the thread.

 

Yep lynch the red and profit.  BG is off to me.  I have an inkling like Ive mentioned but hes done nothing to validate or deny this.

 

could you pull the quote on BG? I think i missed you talking about him before.. 

 

 

Anyways, with everything I have read, i think this is a good point to start

 

[v] Eldrick [/v]

 

He seems off and, imo, could do with a little more attention today. Wouldn't mind Turin2/Eldrick trains today tbh.

 

I got things to do today, and will probably need to re-read to figure out who Eldrick's teammates are. Have a nice sunday all *hands out coffee (or other beverages if necessary) before leaving*

[Thane Vakarian]

sorry for the long posts, have some cookies

 

[Turin Turambar]

 

Either way I'm never going to trust this slot and I think there's a very good chance it's gonna flip scum. Not to mention that I feel like there might be some scum equity with Pral.... and possibly BG. So Sooh's flip is gonna be really telling if she's scum. If she's town? I'm gonna have reassess considerably. But I doubt that's gonna happen.

LOL, you are lumping me with sooh now. That makes your statement that I quoted in my previous post mean completely different. If you are trying to base her scum with the condition that I am also scum, you are on a completely wrong track

Don't worry about it Pral. She is just a wolf.

[Turin Turambar]

 

Something else you may consider or not is that Sooh asked to replace out on Feb 3rd, which was two days before these things happened.

Meaning what?

she asked out of the game for not having time to play properly. So whilst waiting I would say effort level would be reduced considerably. so backing off to just avoid pressure which takes effort to fight off makes sense. Yes, I understand mafia could do the same.

 

Vc?

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

im sheeping nyn this game

Scary stuffs. I was really disappointed about Nol's flip. I really hope we get this one right.

we're probably right, im not much in the caring mood tho

No. Your just a wolf too. Nice job pocketing Z tho.

[alannalynn]

Omg I can't wait for you to be wrong

[Zander?]

I have tried multiple times to go back and analyze stuff about people in my PoE, but my brain simply is refusing to focus. I don't have any scum leans besides Turin.

 

I have a town core of Zander, Nyn, BFG, BG, and Laine.

I am ok lynching anyone else, cuz I am doing horribly this game, and can't seem to find anything good to sink my hooks into.

I just hope I'm not misclearing someone.

 

The thread has been so incredibly dead today.

 

I know you kinda touched on BFG and Alanna.  BFG gut read ok I guess.  Are you typically a gut read player?  I honestly dont really remember.  Your reason for reading Alanna Town is awful.  IM not even saying I disagree with the read just purely the reason.

 

Touch on Me, Nyn and BG please.

 

 

 

Either way I'm never going to trust this slot and I think there's a very good chance it's gonna flip scum. Not to mention that I feel like there might be some scum equity with Pral.... and possibly BG. So Sooh's flip is gonna be really telling if she's scum. If she's town? I'm gonna have reassess considerably. But I doubt that's gonna happen.

LOL, you are lumping me with sooh now. That makes your statement that I quoted in my previous post mean completely different. If you are trying to base her scum with the condition that I am also scum, you are on a completely wrong track

Don't worry about it Pral. She is just a wolf.

 

 

Dear Turin:

 

 

I commend you for taking on a Scum role after getting NK;d as Town,

 

I pity you because now taking said Scum role puts you directly in my cross hairs.

 

You calling Nyn a wolf is pretty awful imo

 

You need to die wolf

 

Sincerely,

 

Zander, the last thing your scummy eyes will see before your impending death,

[alannalynn]

I literally just want to say "I told you so"

[alannalynn]

Zander: "Touch Me, Nyn and BG please."

 

Lololol

[Zander?]

So, page 65 and commenting:

 

The post below is nice, so we know who voted and why. Well, for some people we know why, other,... not so much. Two ideas here cross my mind: 1) Wolves jumped on the occasion to get a townie killed, so there'd be at least 2 on the lynch train. It would have been a fast way to get rid of a townie D1 without too much of a risk. OR 2): there's max one wolf on the train, or none, because they laid back and watched townies rip another one apart. Something bothering me about the Nolder lynch is that it's once again Zander driving the lynch on a townie, and it gives me a déjà vu. Not saying directly that he's a wolf, but it's not to be totally excluded yet imo.

 

now, let's look at the votes:

 

Mine's not there

 

Zander tunneling on a townie again. I hope this will not become a habit, because there are only so many town players in a game.  The impression i get, forgive me if I'm wrong, is that you focus too much on one single player and loose the big picture. What I'd like to see, Zander, is a player that looks at multiple possibilities, and not one. In hindsight, the fact that you're on a townie again, quite pushing the lynch, is not that great. I hope you can understand that, bro

 

 

 

Thane if you are a wolf Ill have to admit the post is pretty ballsy.  As Town its pretty foolish but thats the lesser of 2 evils imo.

 

First off, get your facts straight, I didnt drive Nolder's lynch, thats fact,  Did I think he was Scum?  Yes I did.  Did Nolder play awful?  Yes he did.  He got 7 votes brother, you think theres 7 wolves in this game?  If not, then think hard about this.

 

Focus too much on one player?  I have multiple suspects, and players Ive been Town reading, so again incorrect.

 

Im not a big fan on your I was right about Nolder comments either.  Youre not a cocky player (unlike me)  That feels off to me.

 

You know mislynches are a part of playing this game.  Theres no way you can tell me Nolder wasnt scummy man,  Refusing to give a reads list, refusing to claim as VT, just a whole pile of anti Town Play.

[Zander?]

Zander: "Touch Me, Nyn and BG please."

 

Lololol

 

Wolfy misrep.....i said Touch on me Nyn and BFG

 

I watching you....The North Remembers

 

lolololololol

[Nynaeve]

 

Omg I can't wait for you to be wrong[/quote

 

He's scum, Laine. He knows he's wrong. Kind of the point.

 

At this point I'm not even reading his posts anymore. He's mentioning his previous slot to establish town equity and trying to use Sooh wanting to sub out to explain her awful play. He's all over the place trying to get himself out of the hole Sooh put him in. Points for staying true to his rand but unfortunately for him, this is a game where scum get lynched.

[Nynaeve]

 

Omg I can't wait for you to be wrong[/quote

 

He's scum, Laine. He knows he's wrong. Kind of the point.

 

At this point I'm not even reading his posts anymore. He's mentioning his previous slot to establish town equity and trying to use Sooh wanting to sub out to explain her awful play. He's all over the place trying to get himself out of the hole Sooh put him in. Points for staying true to his rand but unfortunately for him, this is a game where scum get lynched.

[Zander?]

Zander: "Touch Me, Nyn and BG please."

 

Lololol

 

Wolfy misrep.....i said Touch on me Nyn and BFG

 

I watching you....The North Remembers

 

lolololololol

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

 

I don't know what I have done to take away your enjoyment of this game but I am sorry for whatever it may have been.

 

I guess my requests will be denied and you insist on lynching me so I will give you at present my want to lynch list And I will go to enjoy the rest of my evening.

 

Alanna: I think I have covered this ad nauseam but here it is again- begging to be town read. Attempts to just dismiss without refuting any claims against her.Voted Nol for pressure. Not liking the interaction with Z. All of today's posts feel like lolcatting or AtE. I'm all the scenarios in my head Alanna is mafia every time.

 

Lily: this is a change. There were warning signs of mafia!Lily D1. The immediate backing off of every case. The questions about how to find mafia. It reminded.me of the one time we were on a mafia team together. BG's wheel of time book game. I think BG ran it anyway. The unneeded vote to L-1 made Nol lynch.inevitable(cwidt?)

 

Nyn: she drove the Nol lynch and her justification is that he is a bad selfish player. Now I'm gonna be treated badly too. Hopefully people will see the truth upon my death.

 

Z: I am really starting to think he is just off the raild and pocketed by Alanna but I could be wrong. Go back and look for all of Turins posts on him.

 

Eldrick: going with the flow. Look at his postings today.

 

Lynch from this list now and profit. Probably not gonna happen but at Least look at it after I'm dead.

 

Good night and good luck. If I'm still alive in the morning maybe I will look at the thread.

Yep lynch the red and profit. BG is off to me. I have an inkling like Ive mentioned but hes done nothing to validate or deny this.

I could go with this list.

 

I honestly believe Turin is the best lynch possible today.

Why? How will my Inevitable town flip cause you to readjust your reads?

[Thane Vakarian]

Zander, let me rephrase a bit, then: The impression i got was you driving the lynch, wanting to thunderdome and all. So, for me, you were the main push.

 

Yes, he did play bad, but that could have been taken advantage of. No, there are not 7 wolves. 3 and third party or 4? Dunno, we'll see. 

 

If you have multiple suspects, can you give them all to me? Maybe a reads list at this point would be nice, so i would know your current line of thoughts. I'll work on mine too.

[alannalynn]

LOL Zander and Nyn both. I'm barely readying ANY posts.

 

Fyi, only REAL mafia players blame everyone else for majority lynches.

 

Like seriously, you people are getting all high and mighty over one effing mislynch when the player was being scummy af. Cool your damn jets

[alannalynn]

I just love the cases against me though. I literally think I skimmed a post that said I wasn't doing any scum hunting in the thread, and I had to go back and look at my own ISO and see and I was like "WHAT THE ****" I must be the laziest town ever who spends all her time off and sleeping hours playing this stupid game.

[Turin Turambar]

Z, in .Nolder's world no claim is basically a vt claim. He will even not claim a pr at times. So the lack.of claim is actually kinda null, if annoying To some. Tbh in the other game when I was facing a lynch D1 as doc I considered not claiming because I figured that mafia would likely have a rb and I would die anyway. Only decidef to do.it because even if I was right it would help town on that mafia couldn't shoot at and/or block the cop. I actually absorbed 2 shots and the rb so it was something good.

 

How will.my inevitable town flip cause you to adjust your reads going forward?

[alannalynn]

Alanna: I think I have covered this ad nauseam but here it is again- begging to be town read. Attempts to just dismiss without refuting any claims against her.Voted Nol for pressure. Not liking the interaction with Z. All of today's posts feel like lolcatting or AtE. I'm all the scenarios in my head Alanna is mafia every time.

LITERALLY every time? Or only in fantasy land?

[Zander?]

 

Why? How will my Inevitable town flip cause you to readjust your reads?

 

 

Your wolfy propaganda and fear mongering dont work on the Zander.

[Nynaeve]

All I'm getting from Turin atm is that he's trying to rile people and is suggedting to lynch half the players in the game.

 

I also love how he's naming me scum by me pushing Nolder even though I've been more than clear on why I did it and how confident I was that he would flip scum. Im also loving how he's not bothering to address any of my other posts and observations in the game. I can't even buy him believing that I'm scum because he has liyerally not backed it up in any shape or form.

 

So his case is that im scummy for providing a case against Nolder and engaging him repeatedly and really disapproving of his respondes. While Sooh is clearly townie even though she dumped a vote on him with zero reasons of her own on a null read under the guise of following her town reads... and that she did that because she was busy.

 

Sure.

[alannalynn]

Z, in .Nolder's world no claim is basically a vt claim. He will even not claim a pr at times. So the lack.of claim is actually kinda null, if annoying To some. Tbh in the other game when I was facing a lynch D1 as doc I considered not claiming because I figured that mafia would likely have a rb and I would die anyway. Only decidef to do.it because even if I was right it would help town on that mafia couldn't shoot at and/or block the cop. I actually absorbed 2 shots and the rb so it was something good.

 

How will.my inevitable town flip cause you to adjust your reads going forward?

How would MY inevitable town flip cause YOU to adjust your reads?

[Nynaeve]

Don't forget that she was sick too. Kind of important.