[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

[Zander?]

lolololololololololololololol

 

FTFY

[alannalynn]

hold on I"m going back to catch up with the one page that was posted.

 

thanks Z

[Thane Vakarian]

 

lolololololololololololololol

 

FTFY

 

lol, a glimpse of the old Z-man

[Zander?]

I'm liking Nyn and Turin for town at this point. 

 

Alannalynn is bothering me. I feel like she's directing all this attention to me BECAUSE I directed attention to her. I don't like it. It's OMGUSy. And where I come from explaining your own meta as in "I wouldn't do that as scum" or "I always do this as town"  is scummy. ANYBODY can change their meta. She's my scummiest read so far, although I still don't like Zander's "joke" and put him in second place. 

 

Vote Laine

 

 

By the way, my kitty seems to be doing a little better. I'm taking him to the vet tomorrow for fluids, although he is drinking a little now. But he's 11 years old and could use the help. Thanks for all your kind words. 

 

 

Read Sooh and Eldrick please and come back and tell me Alanna and I are the scummiest 2 players in the game again,

[alannalynn]

Just caught up but it is time for bed.

 

I will say that I still completely disagree with Z regarding his character claim. Despite the wording of the op there is NO GUARANTEE any character is town. the was a similar game on one of these themes shows where one brother was town and one was an SK I believe. So no.

 

Alanna, what caused you to switch Thane and BG? I believe a short time ago you said Thane was your weakest town read bit in your list you have Thane above BG. I don't remember anything recently to cause the change.

 

Good night all.

Oh that? I legit forgot about BG and then once the time came to make a reads list I was feeling better about and couldn't put him in nulls so I slid him up to a town lean for ~feels raisons

[alannalynn]

 

#117 and #120 from Lily are really pinging me. I understand the explanation on 117, she wasn't caught up yet, but the switch to voting me in post 120 is awful. Also, who is my "scummate" that you're referring to in this post, @Lily? The only people involved in this were me, Zander, and his comments on Lily/Eldrick. If you're saying I'm teammates with Zander, that's just weird that you just came off voting Zander to voting me when you literally just backed out of your suspicion of Zander because your responses were behind.

#131 @Lily Sooh's agreement came after my post, so how was I pushing any case of her's?

 

#133 @Lily re: Zander/Alanna distancing: LOL we don't distance. We plop ourselves right beside each other as scum and color the other one blue in our reads list.

 

 

#120 - I was saying that you were pushing Zander's case on me

 

#133 - How do I know that to be true? I don't. So, I'll stick with my reads, tyvm. 

 

Also, my meta, regardless of alignment is to start out slow and ramp up later. 

 

#120 there was a case on you that I was pushing? I said you looked better than Eldrick in those original posts until 120 and I decided I didn't like what you were doing

 

#133 Meta, probably not going to change any time soon. Zander and I scum reading each other is cause for concern about one of us but not both but I know you haven't been playing with us to notice so I'm not really bothered

[alannalynn]

I'm glad kitty is doing better Lily!

 

But your case on me is well... no.

[alannalynn]

My WTL is Eldrick-Nolder-Lily

[LilyElizabeth]

 

Read Sooh and Eldrick please and come back and tell me Alanna and I are the scummiest 2 players in the game again,

 

 

I'll try to do that. Can't tonight. 

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Nolder(1): Turin

Sooh(2): Pralaya, Zander

alannalynn(1): Lily

 

Not Voting: alannalynn, BFG, Thane, Nolder, Nynaeve, bgrishinko, Eldrick, Sooh

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[alannalynn]

It's too quiet, what is happening???

 

[v]Eldrick[/v]

[Zander?]

It's too quiet, what is happening???

 

[v]Eldrick[/v]

 

[alannalynn]

Hehee sorry Zander. Wanna talk? If I spam enough and get ahead of you, you wont be post leader and we can talk?

[Zander?]

Hehee sorry Zander. Wanna talk? If I spam enough and get ahead of you, you wont be post leader and we can talk?

 

Eldrick4221  74

Zander  62

 

I cant exceed the PC leader.

 

So we can talk a bit.

 

Tell me what are your current thoughts?

[alannalynn]

Pretty much what I attached to my reads list. I find it a little odd that Lily jumped on to me saying my push on her was omgus when she was the first to push me irt my comments on your "joke" post at the beginning. Not sure what to make of that.

 

She also commented on the meta part, that anyone can change their meta but I don't see why I would change something that works and would be effective in getting me town read or potentially netting me a pocket. The fact that i'm self aware of this aspect of my meta doesn't change the fact that it works for me and I'm going to keep using it until it fails me. lol

 

I also highly doubt I'm the scummiest person in the game thus far.

[alannalynn]

I think if I were to underestimate anyone in this game it would be BG purely because I don't have meta on him and don't really know what to expect, so I could be flat out misreading him as town right now, but that's something I'll have to think about later after some flips.

 

I do see a change in Turin a little bit, I feel like he's more solid this game and that's a good thing(?), so I'm looking forward to seeing more from him.

 

Pralaya is silent per usual.

 

Nolder is pinging in that way that he pings when he is mafia but I'm going to give him some space and see what he does first.

[alannalynn]

There was one thing about Nyn earlier that caught me off guard when she didn't push me when I snarked back, but that's probably nothing, potentially something. I'm not going to say it's a ping but I know she likes to prod at me until I react and by not doing that is something I want to keep in mind irt her ability to read me without making me yell at her.

[alannalynn]

Thane putting in the work he has solidifies him as town for me right now, coupled with his eagerness. I could probably slot him right below Zander for that effort he put in. I haven't seen wolf!Thane in a while though so that IS something to keep in mind. But I wouldn't expect wolf!Thane to be quite so eager to play and relaxed about the game like that

[alannalynn]

I'm actually gonna switch up and [unvote] [v]Nolder[/v] because I want some pressure there

[Zander?]

Pretty much what I attached to my reads list. I find it a little odd that Lily jumped on to me saying my push on her was omgus when she was the first to push me irt my comments on your "joke" post at the beginning. Not sure what to make of that.

 

She also commented on the meta part, that anyone can change their meta but I don't see why I would change something that works and would be effective in getting me town read or potentially netting me a pocket. The fact that i'm self aware of this aspect of my meta doesn't change the fact that it works for me and I'm going to keep using it until it fails me. lol

 

I also highly doubt I'm the scummiest person in the game thus far.

 

Ya Im not sure what Lily is seeing or if she maybe has an agenda.

 

You aren't the scummiest person in this game.

 

I think if I were to underestimate anyone in this game it would be BG purely because I don't have meta on him and don't really know what to expect, so I could be flat out misreading him as town right now, but that's something I'll have to think about later after some flips.

 

I do see a change in Turin a little bit, I feel like he's more solid this game and that's a good thing(?), so I'm looking forward to seeing more from him.

 

Pralaya is silent per usual.

 

Nolder is pinging in that way that he pings when he is mafia but I'm going to give him some space and see what he does first.

 

BG has pinged me this game.  Ive not forgot about him,  His explanation about him saying I misrepped him is hollow at best,

 

Nolder has been very weird this game.

 

Pral well is Pral so I dunno what to make there yet tbh,

 

There was one thing about Nyn earlier that caught me off guard when she didn't push me when I snarked back, but that's probably nothing, potentially something. I'm not going to say it's a ping but I know she likes to prod at me until I react and by not doing that is something I want to keep in mind irt her ability to read me without making me yell at her.

 

Nyn feels pretty towny to me tbqh.

 

Thane putting in the work he has solidifies him as town for me right now, coupled with his eagerness. I could probably slot him right below Zander for that effort he put in. I haven't seen wolf!Thane in a while though so that IS something to keep in mind. But I wouldn't expect wolf!Thane to be quite so eager to play and relaxed about the game like that

 

Agree with Thane read.

[Zander?]

I'm actually gonna switch up and [unvote] [v]Nolder[/v] because I want some pressure there

 

 

Talk to me about Sooh.  Im currently voting her,  The reasoning is pretty obv imo.  Can you also touch on how you feel irt my arguments against her.

 

Dont just start voting random please it sketches me out.

[alannalynn]

 

I'm actually gonna switch up and [unvote] [v]Nolder[/v] because I want some pressure there

Talk to me about Sooh.  Im currently voting her,  The reasoning is pretty obv imo.  Can you also touch on how you feel irt my arguments against her.

 

Dont just start voting random please it sketches me out.

LOL who was it who complained about me not voting? It was probably Nolder. But I think I can put him lower on my list due to that FEELING when he's mafia. It's just there. And Thane brought it up a page or so back and it reminded me of it so I switched over. I actually would like to hear from NYN irt Nolder, since she saw the same things I saw in Rustlemania, I wanna know if she's feeling the same thing here. What are YOUR thoughts on Nolder, in summary?

 

As for Soohhhh at lot of my pings were her pushes on you which I didn't think were legitimate at all, as well as her TOAN and a few other things but let me go back and check what you've said recently. I'm a little wary to push a lynch on Sooh today because she's sick and I wouldn't want to push a potential mislynch through due to change in behavior from sickness =/

[Zander?]

 

 

I'm actually gonna switch up and [unvote] [v]Nolder[/v] because I want some pressure there

Talk to me about Sooh.  Im currently voting her,  The reasoning is pretty obv imo.  Can you also touch on how you feel irt my arguments against her.

 

Dont just start voting random please it sketches me out.

LOL who was it who complained about me not voting? It was probably Nolder. But I think I can put him lower on my list due to that FEELING when he's mafia. It's just there. And Thane brought it up a page or so back and it reminded me of it so I switched over. I actually would like to hear from NYN irt Nolder, since she saw the same things I saw in Rustlemania, I wanna know if she's feeling the same thing here. What are YOUR thoughts on Nolder, in summary?

 

As for Soohhhh at lot of my pings were her pushes on you which I didn't think were legitimate at all, as well as her TOAN and a few other things but let me go back and check what you've said recently. I'm a little wary to push a lynch on Sooh today because she's sick and I wouldn't want to push a potential mislynch through due to change in behavior from sickness =/

 

 

Nolder Id have to go back and ISO but his posts are just weird.  I wanna look back before passing judgement on him atp.  I have more legit suspects atm I wanna pursue first.

 

I know Sooh is sick but what really sunk her for me was her "case" on me.  It had 0 merits and I dont think sick effects that imo.

[alannalynn]

Re: Sooh
I'm actually taking this from your ISO, Zander, and then I'm going to go back through her ISO to see if I catch anything different on that read, so I'm sorry that it's kinda broken up.

Okay I know that she jumped on the original "joke" post and read it the same way that I did, it wasn't really written as a joke.

I see that it pinged you that she has Eldrick as null, I want to go and check if she says WHY she has Eldrick null. I don't think he's being his normal scummy town self....

This post right here. You said it was OMGUS and that's exactly what I thought the first time I read it. It does come off kinda omgusy. But I already responded to that post in defense of you, just because I think she's flat out wrong about your meta.
 

 

/snip

No, actually that's not OMGUS. That is my case on you, laid out as it is.
As town you have a clear and distinct way of handling yourself which I don't see in any way, shape or form in this game. This resembles to me more the tone you had in your early scum games. That's how it is different from null. As it stands you are my scummiest lead this game, and that's where I want my vote. I could of course have gone for Pral, but that WOULD have been OMGUS. I'm still watching you, and as you know, I am capable of changing my reads as the game goes on. Nothing so far has made me come to that conclusion though.

If you want examples of hostile tone, or what I perceive as that, you're going to have to wait a little, and I'll get back to you asap.

 

*snip*
 

"Sooh is sick, but I expect her to always and in every game be acting the same as she did last time she was town" - What?
"She has a null stance on Eldrick" - After about six hours of D1 I had a null stance on a guy who arguably plays strangely and is often mislynched for being odd. That's really scummy.

Are you for real Zan?

Yes I except people to exhibit their normal Town Meta when they Rand Town. Thats a pretty basic concept for me as a Meta/Gut read player isn't?

The read about you having Eld Null came from the fact both of you are my top Scum reads atp.

*snip*

 

Except since when do I have a normal Town Meta? I feel like I'm doing things differently every game, but I suppose I'm not completely doing that since people still can read me. I have never been able to affect my meta. I play the way I play, so either you'll have to adjust your meta, or as scum you're trying to pin me on a meta-case. Whichever it is, I wish you good luck with that.

 

Two things about this post. The top part that I bolded/underline: this is straight up giving her room to back out of her read and if I remember right, she does. I'm not sure what the purpose of giving herself an out is, but just reading it rubs me the wrong way. Besides that, her notion of what your meta should be when you're changing your playsyle is flawed, at best. As for the bottom section which is red, is reading really defensive to me with how she's defending her meta. Just awkard wording there.

I'm a little confused by what Sooh is saying in this quoted post. And i kind of touched on it earlier. She's comparing your tone this game to your game in Belichick where you basically fooled EVERYBODY that game and were like a bouncy ball all over the place. @SOOH, what exactly are you referring to in Belichick that you see here? Can you articulate that a bit better for me? Hell I don't even remember Zander that well from Belichick and I was both a scummate AND followed along after death lol

Agree to this completely, but I'm going to pull up her ISO and double check myself

[alannalynn]

Re: Sooh Continued...

Link Okay so she is leaning null on Eldrick. @SOOH, is this still the case or has anything changed?

She later comes back and doesn't like that Zander called her out for a null read 6 hours into the game, which is legit. But then with a follow up from Zander, she refuses to say if anything has changed on her read of him because she has better suspects.
 

/snip
So, apparently formal!Zander reads as hostile!Zander to sick brain.

I AM taking into account what Nyn said, and I realize that I am not remembering every single part of this thread as clearly as I probably should (evidenced further by me not really having any other proper reads yet). I AM also keeping my vote for now, because I can't see townie Zan, and because that character claim was really bad.

When (if) I see someone more scummy I'm obviously going to change my vote.

Remember when I said she was giving herself an out?

Andddd this:

I'll try to turn this scum read you all have of me around, and I'll drop Zander. I still think he's ~ scummy, but I won't gun for him today.

[unvote]