[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

Zander? · January 18, 2016

Ugh, this is an awful argument.

Zander's posting in purple, means he's either town or mafia have a sample Town role PM, or both /shrug

It doesn't clear him, his reaction is pretty extreme though.

Laine's reaction is marginally more interesting, there isn't a majority hammer Day 0, so her unvote is unnecessary, so she's conscious of her vote, but I'm not sure this means much at this point.

All it means is he believes town pm color is purple. That doesn't mean town is the only one that gets purple. It doesn't mean he's town. This isn't worth discussing.
So you dont feel this is relevant at all? Not just pertaining to me but anyone thus far?
No. I dont. If you are town, you would know the color.

If you are scum, you could have a sample and believe you know the color

And we have no idea what color 3rd parties got their pm in. It might also be purple to make this null.

The color of your role bears no distinction to your alignment until proven otherwise.

So all this based off is the off chance Maf got a sample Town pm with Color?

Which do you feel is most likely atp?

All are equally likely. We don't know what clov did. Not worth talking about until we have flips.

Thank you.

Lenlo · January 18, 2016

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?
It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.
Serious?

Ok, what if he flips town?

Then we were wrong. It happens. And we learn something from how people acted about it.

If he flips town, it won't make Laine look scummy for unvoting.

This post pings me.

Explain what we learn from it and why Laine unvoting doesnt look scummy at all? Is it possible she knew Zander was a towny before hand and wanted to come out clean?

Zander, what was your thinking behind trying to clear yourself by role revealing/colour coding?

Ive already explained this. we only have 24 hours D0 phase. Lenlo had started this lets lynch Zander in sign ups. if i was mislynched nothing would be able to be gleaned from it. the wolves could just easily hide behind that. Also IVE NOT BEEN MISLYNCHED as Town for quite awhile and

Also is not having a cleared Zander a bonus for people to not have to tinfoil on me?

YOUR NOT CLEARED! Some PM BS means nothing dude so stop pushing it. No one is buying it.

Im only responding to people's question about it Len....who is over reacting now???

Why try to turn this around on me now, this isnt the first time ive responded like this.

Heres the thing. The initial petition, lol have fun lets try and lynch Zander D0 lololol.

Now? Now im leanin wolf on your slot. Convince me your not within the next 23 hours.

I dont care what way youre leaning on me. This was your idea so deal with how I respond to it. You said i was kinda over reacting to things and I simply pointed out that now you were.

How mad are YOU gonna be if you tried to hide behind this as Scum!Len and you get lunched here today?

Not at all. If I was scum, I went for an early D0 play to get rid of a strong town player while getting little heat on myself and it failed. It happens.

Im not a wolf, so it doesnt matter much.

Ugh, this is an awful argument.

Zander's posting in purple, means he's either town or mafia have a sample Town role PM, or both /shrug

It doesn't clear him, his reaction is pretty extreme though.

Laine's reaction is marginally more interesting, there isn't a majority hammer Day 0, so her unvote is unnecessary, so she's conscious of her vote, but I'm not sure this means much at this point.

Its been starting D1 off though hasnt it???

No time for my usual fluff here. Its time to solve and get people involved.

And this has turned into a pretty good kickstarter. What do you think about the votes, what do you think about the non votes?

I wanted to do this to gauge peoples reactions to it. The non voters are kinda null really and not everyone has checked in. Im more interested in the reaction of the voters atp.

Sure.

So tell me what you gleaned from this reaction test of yours?

At least one of my voters is scum.

Ok, which one?

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?
It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.
Serious?

Ok, what if he flips town?

Then we were wrong. It happens. And we learn something from how people acted about it.

If he flips town, it won't make Laine look scummy for unvoting.

I CALL BS

Nothing would be learned because everyone could just say they were just following the joke.

At this point it isnt a joke, so no, I dont think so.

Spoiled for size.

Answer to youre question about who...wheres my vote?

And as to just following the joke. He stated he assumed this was just gonna straight up happen so atp no info would have been ascertained from it.

One person. Ok. And I will read into that should you flip town. He will be looked at.

So explain why im wolf. I have a case on you atm, so gimme yours on me. Convince everyone else im a wolf. Scumhunt. Go on the offensive rather than playing D.

I dont care what way youre leaning on me. This was your idea so deal with how I respond to it. You said i was kinda over reacting to things and I simply pointed out that now you were.

How mad are YOU gonna be if you tried to hide behind this as Scum!Len and you get lunched here today?

Didnt respond tot he first part of this.

You should care. Means im no longer joking and wont be pulling off once the joke is done. As for how you are responding, well I find it scummy. Sounds like your problem not mine, cause unless you fix it im gunning to lynch you.

But didnt you say Town!Zander just lololololol's and doesnt care?

Yeah I did. Of course after I say it, its likely you will try to adjust so im accounting for that possibility. This also reads differently. Town Zander lololols for the fun. This reads as not caring to try and discredit.

Zander? · January 18, 2016

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?
It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.
Serious?

Ok, what if he flips town?

Then we were wrong. It happens. And we learn something from how people acted about it.

If he flips town, it won't make Laine look scummy for unvoting.

This post pings me.

Explain what we learn from it and why Laine unvoting doesnt look scummy at all? Is it possible she knew Zander was a towny before hand and wanted to come out clean?

Zander, what was your thinking behind trying to clear yourself by role revealing/colour coding?

Ive already explained this. we only have 24 hours D0 phase. Lenlo had started this lets lynch Zander in sign ups. if i was mislynched nothing would be able to be gleaned from it. the wolves could just easily hide behind that. Also IVE NOT BEEN MISLYNCHED as Town for quite awhile and

Also is not having a cleared Zander a bonus for people to not have to tinfoil on me?

YOUR NOT CLEARED! Some PM BS means nothing dude so stop pushing it. No one is buying it.

Im only responding to people's question about it Len....who is over reacting now???

Why try to turn this around on me now, this isnt the first time ive responded like this.

Heres the thing. The initial petition, lol have fun lets try and lynch Zander D0 lololol.

Now? Now im leanin wolf on your slot. Convince me your not within the next 23 hours.

I dont care what way youre leaning on me. This was your idea so deal with how I respond to it. You said i was kinda over reacting to things and I simply pointed out that now you were.

How mad are YOU gonna be if you tried to hide behind this as Scum!Len and you get lunched here today?

Not at all. If I was scum, I went for an early D0 play to get rid of a strong town player while getting little heat on myself and it failed. It happens.

Im not a wolf, so it doesnt matter much.

Ugh, this is an awful argument.

Zander's posting in purple, means he's either town or mafia have a sample Town role PM, or both /shrug

It doesn't clear him, his reaction is pretty extreme though.

Laine's reaction is marginally more interesting, there isn't a majority hammer Day 0, so her unvote is unnecessary, so she's conscious of her vote, but I'm not sure this means much at this point.

Its been starting D1 off though hasnt it???

No time for my usual fluff here. Its time to solve and get people involved.

And this has turned into a pretty good kickstarter. What do you think about the votes, what do you think about the non votes?

I wanted to do this to gauge peoples reactions to it. The non voters are kinda null really and not everyone has checked in. Im more interested in the reaction of the voters atp.

Sure.

So tell me what you gleaned from this reaction test of yours?

At least one of my voters is scum.

Ok, which one?

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?
It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.
Serious?

Ok, what if he flips town?

Then we were wrong. It happens. And we learn something from how people acted about it.

If he flips town, it won't make Laine look scummy for unvoting.

I CALL BS

Nothing would be learned because everyone could just say they were just following the joke.

At this point it isnt a joke, so no, I dont think so.

Spoiled for size.

Answer to youre question about who...wheres my vote?

And as to just following the joke. He stated he assumed this was just gonna straight up happen so atp no info would have been ascertained from it.

One person. Ok. And I will read into that should you flip town. He will be looked at.

So explain why im wolf. I have a case on you atm, so gimme yours on me. Convince everyone else im a wolf. Scumhunt. Go on the offensive rather than playing D.

I dont care what way youre leaning on me. This was your idea so deal with how I respond to it. You said i was kinda over reacting to things and I simply pointed out that now you were.

How mad are YOU gonna be if you tried to hide behind this as Scum!Len and you get lunched here today?

Didnt respond tot he first part of this.

You should care. Means im no longer joking and wont be pulling off once the joke is done. As for how you are responding, well I find it scummy. Sounds like your problem not mine, cause unless you fix it im gunning to lynch you.

But didnt you say Town!Zander just lololololol's and doesnt care?

Yeah I did. Of course after I say it, its likely you will try to adjust so im accounting for that possibility. This also reads differently. Town Zander lololols for the fun. This reads as not caring to try and discredit.

Everyones been complaining about too much posting and not being able to play. So im trying to work on mostly posting game related stuff. Were also under a 24 time constriction.

Eldrick4221 · January 18, 2016

@Lenlo

Irt Laine unvoting and Zander flipping town.

I said she doesn't look scummy for it because she wouldn't have the "he's my teammate. I'm backing of this joke train" vibe

If she's scum and he's town, she wouldn't know that. She would only know he isn't on her team. And she would look 'not scum' to me because scum would stay on the train if it wasn't a teammate imo.

Zander? · January 18, 2016

@ Len

Why are you a wolf to me atp? Cause of your reactions/play thus far and the fact I feel almost certain that at least one wolf jumped on my train. Its not like my most solid Scum read Ive had but its sufficient to me thus far. Still need more people to check in.

Lenlo · January 18, 2016

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?
It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.
Serious?

Ok, what if he flips town?

Then we were wrong. It happens. And we learn something from how people acted about it.

If he flips town, it won't make Laine look scummy for unvoting.

This post pings me.

Explain what we learn from it and why Laine unvoting doesnt look scummy at all? Is it possible she knew Zander was a towny before hand and wanted to come out clean?

Zander, what was your thinking behind trying to clear yourself by role revealing/colour coding?

Ive already explained this. we only have 24 hours D0 phase. Lenlo had started this lets lynch Zander in sign ups. if i was mislynched nothing would be able to be gleaned from it. the wolves could just easily hide behind that. Also IVE NOT BEEN MISLYNCHED as Town for quite awhile and

Also is not having a cleared Zander a bonus for people to not have to tinfoil on me?

YOUR NOT CLEARED! Some PM BS means nothing dude so stop pushing it. No one is buying it.

Im only responding to people's question about it Len....who is over reacting now???

Why try to turn this around on me now, this isnt the first time ive responded like this.

Heres the thing. The initial petition, lol have fun lets try and lynch Zander D0 lololol.

Now? Now im leanin wolf on your slot. Convince me your not within the next 23 hours.

I dont care what way youre leaning on me. This was your idea so deal with how I respond to it. You said i was kinda over reacting to things and I simply pointed out that now you were.

How mad are YOU gonna be if you tried to hide behind this as Scum!Len and you get lunched here today?

Not at all. If I was scum, I went for an early D0 play to get rid of a strong town player while getting little heat on myself and it failed. It happens.

Im not a wolf, so it doesnt matter much.

Ugh, this is an awful argument.

Zander's posting in purple, means he's either town or mafia have a sample Town role PM, or both /shrug

It doesn't clear him, his reaction is pretty extreme though.

Laine's reaction is marginally more interesting, there isn't a majority hammer Day 0, so her unvote is unnecessary, so she's conscious of her vote, but I'm not sure this means much at this point.

Its been starting D1 off though hasnt it???

No time for my usual fluff here. Its time to solve and get people involved.

And this has turned into a pretty good kickstarter. What do you think about the votes, what do you think about the non votes?

I wanted to do this to gauge peoples reactions to it. The non voters are kinda null really and not everyone has checked in. Im more interested in the reaction of the voters atp.

Sure.

So tell me what you gleaned from this reaction test of yours?

At least one of my voters is scum.

Ok, which one?

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?
It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.
Serious?

Ok, what if he flips town?

Then we were wrong. It happens. And we learn something from how people acted about it.

If he flips town, it won't make Laine look scummy for unvoting.

I CALL BS

Nothing would be learned because everyone could just say they were just following the joke.

At this point it isnt a joke, so no, I dont think so.

Spoiled for size.

Answer to youre question about who...wheres my vote?

And as to just following the joke. He stated he assumed this was just gonna straight up happen so atp no info would have been ascertained from it.

One person. Ok. And I will read into that should you flip town. He will be looked at.

So explain why im wolf. I have a case on you atm, so gimme yours on me. Convince everyone else im a wolf. Scumhunt. Go on the offensive rather than playing D.

I dont care what way youre leaning on me. This was your idea so deal with how I respond to it. You said i was kinda over reacting to things and I simply pointed out that now you were.

How mad are YOU gonna be if you tried to hide behind this as Scum!Len and you get lunched here today?

Didnt respond tot he first part of this.

You should care. Means im no longer joking and wont be pulling off once the joke is done. As for how you are responding, well I find it scummy. Sounds like your problem not mine, cause unless you fix it im gunning to lynch you.

But didnt you say Town!Zander just lololololol's and doesnt care?

Yeah I did. Of course after I say it, its likely you will try to adjust so im accounting for that possibility. This also reads differently. Town Zander lololols for the fun. This reads as not caring to try and discredit.

Everyones been complaining about too much posting and not being able to play. So im trying to work on mostly posting game related stuff. Were also under a 24 time constriction.

Cool. So explain your case on me. Your dodging explaining your reason for voting me when I asked. How is that not game related?

As you said we have 24 hours so tell me. Why am I a wolf?

BFG · January 18, 2016

@Lenlo

Irt Laine unvoting and Zander flipping town.

I said she doesn't look scummy for it because she wouldn't have the "he's my teammate. I'm backing of this joke train" vibe

If she's scum and he's town, she wouldn't know that. She would only know he isn't on her team. And she would look 'not scum' to me because scum would stay on the train if it wasn't a teammate imo.

Odd, if Laine was mafia and Zander wasn't on her team why wouldn't she know he was town? Odds are extremely good he'd be town not third party in that scenario...

Lenlo · January 18, 2016

@ Len

Why are you a wolf to me atp? Cause of your reactions/play thus far and the fact I feel almost certain that at least one wolf jumped on my train. Its not like my most solid Scum read Ive had but its sufficient to me thus far. Still need more people to check in.

Ok so im a wolf cause of reactions/play. What reactions if I may ask? Your certain atleast one wolf jumped on your train, ok. If your a town thats a decent suspicion.

Its sufficient for you, but not your strongest read ever and you want others to check in. This is pretty weak imo, like a passive explanation.

How certain are you that im scum on a scale of 1 to 10?

Zander? · January 18, 2016

@ Len

Why are you a wolf to me atp? Cause of your reactions/play thus far and the fact I feel almost certain that at least one wolf jumped on my train. Its not like my most solid Scum read Ive had but its sufficient to me thus far. Still need more people to check in.

Ok so im a wolf cause of reactions/play. What reactions if I may ask? Your certain atleast one wolf jumped on your train, ok. If your a town thats a decent suspicion.

Its sufficient for you, but not your strongest read ever and you want others to check in. This is pretty weak imo, like a passive explanation.

How certain are you that im scum on a scale of 1 to 10?

Dude reactions like this....games been open now for only 1 hour 37 minutes. I know i have good reads but how the heck can it feel passive or weak? And really come one man over half the game hasnt checked in so how is ANY of what you said there a reason to all me that? It dont make any sense to me

But you call out my town play then when i do it you still say Im scummy. The fact you were arguing against my Role Claim move because I KNOW im Town and what my PM looks like but thinking that HAS to be Scum!Zander. Also the fact you mentioned my Town/Scum Meta but havent bothered to address the fact that IVE NEVER claimed in an opening post before. Youve set off my Scumdar and that's that.

6 atp.

BFG · January 18, 2016

Zander, why are you reading Lenlo as mafia at this point?

monstrman · January 18, 2016

All this talk about Zander and his claim is nonsense

That said he's a villager

BFG · January 18, 2016

Ok ninja'ed lol

monstrman · January 18, 2016

Oh and he's right. Wolves are pushing him.

Zander? · January 18, 2016

Zander, why are you reading Lenlo as mafia at this point?

Why should I not be?

And Ive answered this more then once.

BFG · January 18, 2016

All this talk about Zander and his claim is nonsense

That said he's a villager

Hi Manbat :)

possibly, why (in your opinion)?

csarmi · January 18, 2016

[V]Zander[/v]

monstrman · January 18, 2016

All this talk about Zander and his claim is nonsense

That said he's a villager

Hi Manbat :)

possibly, why (in your opinion)?

There's no opinion about it

monstrman · January 18, 2016

[V]Zander[/v]

This is bad

Zander? · January 18, 2016

Oh and he's right. Wolves are pushing him.

Do you have any inklings as to who thus far?

Lenlo · January 18, 2016

Why is that scummy? Im asking you to gimme evidence for your read on me, rather than just OMGUSing me.

Its not the read thats passive, its the explanation thats passive and weak. Town!Zander takes his scum read and drives it home until that person gets lynched and yet here you... just waiting for someone to come save you from big bad Len. Its not normal.

Your role claim is null. It proves nothing, could easily come from town or scum Zander. I am not calling you a wolf for your claim at all. And yeah you havnt role claimed in an opening post as town or scum before, so it could come from either. Thats why im not judging your for it. I have never called that opening post scummy. It simply doesnt clear you the way you think it does.

monstrman · January 18, 2016

You people have latched on to nothing over nothing

There's no way this isn't wolf-driven or supported

Lenlo · January 18, 2016

[V]Zander[/v]

After all this, thats what youve got?

monstrman · January 18, 2016

Oh and he's right. Wolves are pushing him.

Do you have any inklings as to who thus far?

Not sure yet. You could be right on lenlo, you could not.

Lenlo · January 18, 2016

You people have latched on to nothing over nothing

There's no way this isn't wolf-driven or supported

Why is it nothing? Started as a joke and then the way he reacted reminded me of scum games ive had with him so im voting him.

monstrman · January 18, 2016

Csarmi just went way up the list with the wolfy vote pop in

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