[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

[Shad_]

I can't look at your other games tonight.  Not enough time.  But thank you for linking them.  If we happen to find ourselves chatting later (so far our availability time doesn't seem to overlap at all) try to remind me to look them up.  There's a lot going on in this game.  I could honestly forget.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nolder I know you think I'm a big bucket of scum, but disengage and please, like 100x please please, look at Kaylee.

 

Tell you what Nolder:

 

If you don't think that this exercise was worth 20-30 minutes of your time today, I'll vote Pralaya with you.

 

That's your dangling carrot.

 

Help me- look at Kaylee and look for a pattern of her behavior.

[Shad_]

Everyone in thread right now, give me 1-3 WTL for today

Kaylee

 

I have other suspects, but reasons to hold off on each of them.

[Shad_]

^ that being said, still not caught up lolololol

[Askthepizzaguy]

You gotta iso her from start to a long while from start, but it should be clear.

[Nolder]

Nolder I know you think I'm a big bucket of scum, but disengage and please, like 100x please please, look at Kaylee.

 

Tell you what Nolder:

 

If you don't think that this exercise was worth 20-30 minutes of your time today, I'll vote Pralaya with you.

 

That's your dangling carrot.

 

Help me- look at Kaylee and look for a pattern of her behavior.

I'm probably going to bed soon but what do you want me to look at exactly?

[Nolder]

You gotta iso her from start to a long while from start, but it should be clear.

Ok I'll try.

[Shad_]

I found something really really interesting about Kaylee.

 

I think it's actually something that will completely turn this round around. I think she might be completely caught, and when I explain it, it will be tough for anyone to disagree with the point.

 

It's so ridiculously simple and it's EVERYWHERE in her posting. It's not an isolated wierd incident it's her entire play to date.

 

But before I fire all my lazars, I need help on something:

 

Who here has played with Kaylee a lot? Do you remember a recent villager game of hers?

 

I need to make sure what I'm seeing isn't just Kaylee's.... normal way of doing things.

 

This is so fundamental that I will seriously only need to check one villager game of hers real quick to see if there's a difference.

 

If there is, she's completely caught.

 

I was ISOing her in House of Cards earlier but didn't get to finish my process.  Most recent town game I know of but it's from back in May.

[Celeste]

@Pizza Is it her saying fair enough and not really having a stance on much. (Bah I should be asleep)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Use the time, don't rush it.

 

It would only be obvious to someone who ISO's only Kaylee for a while, and even then, we're talking about limited values of obvious but it's a real pattern.

 

Does it mean Kaylee is always scum? No- but it probably means she is.

 

And like I said, I need to check a recent town game of hers to confirm it's an entirely different process from her.

 

If it isn't, it may be null, but I'm still going to give a fellow villager a ton of town points for spotting it before I say it, so this is still worthwhile.

[Shad_]

It has to be the same pattern I spotted.

 

She included herself in her own wtl at one point if I read the post correctly, and said at least twice that she didn't mind eating it today iirc.  /shrug

[Shad_]

Correction on that first point, I might be confusing two different posts.  Honestly just ignore that, memory is garbage and I don't have time to skim her ISO again atm.

[Nolder]

She quotes people a lot and says things like "I agree".

That's the only pattern I noticed but I am pretty tired right now so that might not be it.

[Nolder]

If it's something else I'm not really seeing it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's deeper and more fundamentally problematic than that, Nolder, but you're on the right track.

[Nolder]

I guess you could say she's pretty easygoing but I don't know that that's alignment indicative necessarily.

[csarmi]

Correction on that first point, I might be confusing two different posts.  Honestly just ignore that, memory is garbage and I don't have time to skim her ISO again atm.

No i think i saw that too. Slight +

[Askthepizzaguy]

See that can just be her way, regardless of alignment.

 

What I'm seeing is not how a villager thinks, at least, not 99% of them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm still completing the ISO on her but before anyone goes to bed or leaves this discussion, check with me and I'll show you what I saw.

 

Like I said it's a little deeper than one single behavioral quirk, but it's essentially everywhere, over and over and over again.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I guess you could say she's pretty easygoing but I don't know that that's alignment indicative necessarily.

 

I agree, that's not as alignment indicative but it's still something to think about.

 

Someone with that kind of persona anyway will usually then go ahead and do X when she's scum, because it fits her personality.

[alannalynn]

I think i see something but let me read iso one more time, it may not be what you see though

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do it alanna. I want to resolve my question marks on you.

 

Please be right.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's not the most crucial thing in the world if only I see it, and especially so if people familiar with Kaylee (and that this isn't unusual for Kaylee) don't see it, but.

 

If it is unusual for Kaylee, and someone spots it, it's like a free mason. We could use the help.

[Shad_]

But yeah...

 

I think zander is pretty towny because he is actually doing all of this and attempting to find scum.

 

Pizza, using your motivation thing, I find him super towny in terms of motivation.

 

But why is Zander focusing on the Alette/me dynamic? You can read any of the games that I've linked. What we do is not alignment indicative.

Cool, you did follow through with a read update unprompted.

[Shad_]

I'll ISO her when I finish p65...