[Advanced] Nightmare Before Christmas - Town Wins!

[Lenlo]

Ah. Well I dont know his scum game, I havnt played any games where AJ was scum recently.

 

I'm pretty sure the majority of NB's posts in the beginning weren't game related

They werent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

And I don't know if that is even possible.

And therefore we have something in common when we townie.

[Zander?]

 

And I don't know if that is even possible.

And therefore we have something in common when we townie.

 

 

fwiw im the same way as Scum!Zander so I assume you prolly are too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm more jokey and diplomatic, and more in control of how people view me, and also more in control of my emotions and reactions to people, when I scum.

[Nolder]

 

 

Can you put this into an actual case rather than this bulleted list sort of thing? I can sort of see what your getting at with Nolder but before I do anything on the matter I want you to spell it out for me. This way I can understand more where your coming from and get you locked down into a case on Nolder so you cant shift the goal posts/do scum things about it later on.

 

Basically I would like you to clarify this if you dont mind.

 

Fence sitting.

 

Normally I wouldn't call it this early in the game but the hedging language of "I can sort of see" is what really stands out.

 

Fence sitting? Did you even read the rest of the post? I was asking him to put his case on you in less, more concrete words. The "I can sort of see" language was because the dude posts a small essay every time he cases someone. I was helping YOU by making him do a clearer writeup.

I'm more than capable of defending myself. Was that really your motivation here?

Regardless, I had plenty of back and forth with Nomi last night so his position should be clearer to you now.

What are your thoughts?

[Nolder]

I don't think the length of his posts would be really alignment indicative so I'm not sure what you're asking me

IMO he's still hedging and trying to find out what everyone else thinks before picking a side.

[Nolder]

Im not misrepping you. Now please, go read through the thread and come back with some content. Gimme your thoughts on the Nolder/NotBob/Pizza situation for instance. Show me the towny in you, instead of whining at me every time I call you scum in a game.

Note this is still without giving his own.

Anyone else see the pattern?

[Lenlo]

The back and forth you had consisted almost entirely of you arguing about what games he was referencing and which ones he should reference instead. So no, it didnt.

 

My motivation was to get him to lock down his case into something concrete we can reference later so if we lynch you and you flip town, he cant back pedal on his case. By getting him to lock down what it was we make it harder for him in the future to wiggle around.

 

Nolder I have posted my thoughts on the you/Pizza/NotBob situation.

[Nolder]

I feel comfortable doing this for the moment.

 

[v]Lenlo[/v]

[Lenlo]

You wanna give a reason?

[Nolder]

The back and forth you had consisted almost entirely of you arguing about what games he was referencing and which ones he should reference instead. So no, it didnt.

 

My motivation was to get him to lock down his case into something concrete we can reference later so if we lynch you and you flip town, he cant back pedal on his case. By getting him to lock down what it was we make it harder for him in the future to wiggle around.

 

Nolder I have posted my thoughts on the you/Pizza/NotBob situation.

Sniped!

 

Have you? Link or quote please because I don't remember you doing anything but asking others what they thought.

[Leelou]

Vote Count
 

Zander (1) -  Lenlo

Nolder (1) - Pizza 

Snow (1) - Laine

NotBob (1) - AJ

Lenlo (1) - Nol

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Lenlo]

On the phone, so no.

 

I have stated though that I find Pizza to be town with what he is doing and how he is handling the game, though I am paranoid about his WoTs.

 

What NotBob is doing doesnt seem unusual to me, which means null, so I wouldnt fight a lynch against him unless the reasoning being used was just bad.

 

With you if you stick to what Pizza explained, which you seem to be doing so far, then I would have no problem lynching you. You come in, you nit pick small things without really addressing Pizza (Yeah you talked to him last night, but only about the games he used for reference). You also have yet to address the NotBob situation with calling what you are doing Null, instead deciding to go after someone else.

[Andrej]

 

 

I don't think the length of his posts would be really alignment indicative so I'm not sure what you're asking me

IMO he's still hedging and trying to find out what everyone else thinks before picking a side.

Pizza or Lenlo?

[Nolder]

On the phone, so no.

You wanna give me a general idea of when/where?

[Nolder]

 

 

I don't think the length of his posts would be really alignment indicative so I'm not sure what you're asking me

IMO he's still hedging and trying to find out what everyone else thinks before picking a side.

Pizza or Lenlo?

 

Lenlo.

[Nolder]

You also have yet to address the NotBob situation with calling what you are doing Null, instead deciding to go after someone else.

Wait, what? I don't understand what you mean by this.

[Taborline]

It's actually taken me all day to catch up with the whole thread, and I still feel like I have very few notes.

 

I feel quite good about Pizza, though I don't really have much meta to go on there. I only played with you once in Mafia, but I don't think I can trust that meta as you were trying to disguise yourself (if your usual post style is like this, long and detailed, then it could have been quite the give away). I do feel like you are putting it out there and solving, though.

 

This post of Lenlo's bothered me a little bit, maybe the way he's interacting with AJ, i.e. "What do you think? I think..." instead of waiting to hear AJ's answer first.

 

 

 

I was teasing about the thinking part, though I'm sure you know that.

 

You're just coming across more... thoughtful/thorough(?) here than in our last game where I mislynched you D1 :(

Its cool. Im not gonna let a deadline sneak up on me this game, and the only final I have left is in a class I have a 96 in so im not stressed about it at all. Im basically already on break. 1 more year and I will be college grad. To bad I gotta prep to try and get into Grad school :P

 

So AJ, what do you think of Pizza? He looks good to me. Hes figuring stuff out, trying to piece it together with what small stuff we have. But hes been kinda focused on Nolder through it all, interacting with others with Nold as the topic. Only game I have had with him was the game he was Nomi in, and as scum we offed him pretty quickly so I dont have a baseline for him.

 

 

Zander feels a bit more subdued than usual, but I think he did say he's busier now than usual as well.

 

I do want to see more from Dice that isn't about the rules/forum etiquette, as last time you posted strongly in that way, you turned out to be scum :P

[Andrej]

Ok.

 

I was talking to Lenlo about Pizza in that post FTR

[Andrej]

@Tab - dice would make the some complaints as town too. That's just him as a person so I wouldn't really use that to pin him as either alignment

[Andrej]

For some reason I keep thinking this is a normal majority hammer game.

 

I could possibly be interested in pursuing any of the middle wagons from the last VC

[Lenlo]

 

You also have yet to address the NotBob situation with calling what you are doing Null, instead deciding to go after someone else.

Wait, what? I don't understand what you mean by this.

 

You have yet to address how NotBob handled Pizzas case against you. Instead you decided to spend your time going after someone else. That would be me, btw.

 

Tab what about that post/what I have done bothered you?

 

Yeah Dice gets into the rules regardless of alignment I think. In the last game with Yates though, I think Yates wrote alot about what Dice does as town/scum. Could try reading up on that?

[Lenlo]

For some reason I keep thinking this is a normal majority hammer game.

 

I could possibly be interested in pursuing any of the middle wagons from the last VC

Notbob, Snow or Nolder?

 

I know the first two but whats your problem with Snow? I thought he was pretty good in the beginning. Reminded me of Ragnarok abit.

[Nolder]

I'm still confused...

 

Why do you think it's my job to address how someone else reacts to someone's case about me?

I mean I could, and I believe I did comment on it in fact, but I'm really confused that you think I have an obligation to.

 

Like that's leaving me really...bewildered is a good term to use here I think.

[Nolder]

Lenlo when do you get off phone and on a computer?