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  On 10/28/2015 at 6:16 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:38 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:21 PM, Shad_ said:

Do you think Dice and Nomi can be w/w or does a scum flip from one clear the other?

 

No, I don't think a flip would necessarily clear the other.

 

 

If Nomi is w I am literally never lynching dice

 

Dice can bus but I have NEVER seen him bus a partner like that. Dice instigated it IIRC

 

 

I definitely wouldn't go straight to Dice, but I was trying to think of varying scenarios and couldn't rule it out myself.

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  On 10/28/2015 at 6:22 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Im sure dice can bus.

 

Dice can distance. He's not going to spend an entire game tunnelling another wolf, he's more likely not to make any real push at all

 

How are you guys still unable to read dice

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  On 10/28/2015 at 6:23 PM, cory caboose said:

Seriously compare Pral's posts to this game to his Ragnarok posts

 

Every little thing is buttered up and wordy and "looks like he's thinking"

 

In Ragnarok he was very IDGAF, here are my reads deal with it in his sparse, sparse posting

 

He even SAID after the game that if he was a wolf he would have tried to look better

 

DEW THE MATH

 

Frozen is where we should all be looking and where I'm going before phase ends.  Showed up gunned for town!Zander got lynched flipped town.

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  On 10/28/2015 at 3:23 PM, Clovdyx said:

Words hurt, Zander. :(

 

For Chris eyes only

 

 

 

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  On 10/28/2015 at 6:26 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

U r not talking about me cory. I havent yet attempted to rd dice

 

Gun to head town/wolf on Dice go.  No details needed.

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  On 10/28/2015 at 3:23 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 2:53 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:17 AM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 11:12 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

Well I had some posts queued up but I lost them so oh well. But I think the push on me is stupid but not scummy. I think it was silli that was saying they were expecting me to finally say something when I got back but I pretty clearly stated in my post that I wasn't going to actually be able to catch up until later. So now I'm gonna give you some thoughts.

 

I don't really set out with a concrete strategy, but the Lenlo thing was kinda just looking for actions. I wasn't entirely happy with Lenlo's reactions to it but it wasn't terrible and I have a bigger scum read anyways.

 

I think Zander is scum. I thought his opening post felt forced but some people said it was just him so I was like whatever. Someone else pointed this out (I forget who) but he's spent a lot of time just defending and backing people up. It's a pretty easy tactic to lay low and get on some people's good side. Zander said that he had been attacking people though, but it wasn't a high risk one. He just jumped on the popular Lenlo bandwagon. His reasoning wasn't good either, Lenlo imo was pretty clearly just using a mostly gut read on that person who had barely posted so I didn't get why Zander was making a big deal about it. It felt like a weak reason to jump on a popular bandwagon. I'm gonna Vote: Zander

 

 

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In red are you referring to Lenlo's vote on Laine, which prompted Zander's initial vote? If so, let's recalibrate a little here. Zander's initial vote on Lenlo was a joke. Just like, accept that. It's a Zander thing. Moreover, I don't think town!Zander would pause to think that putting Lenlo at 3 is a bad look. That definitely does not mean that scum!Zander would not see the joke as a convenient opportunity to 'start a little run' as you characterize it in your quote. So with that in mind, here are the first three posts in which Zander converts to a serious vote. How does this impact your opinion?:

 

 

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I'm talking about Lenlo listed someone who had barely posted in his bottom three and Zander asked why that person stood out over others who had barely posted. Lenlo was saying that their posts just felt off and everything which I felt was a valid response since I think gut reads are a good starting point for suspicions. Anyways, Zander kept attacking Lenlo for it, asking for specifics when a gut read isn't going to get more specific than that. A gut read is a gut read. I felt as though it was a poor reason to push someone.

 

Yeah, I thought you were probably talking about Thane but I didn't want to assume it straight away

 

So here's what I'm looking at:

 

You said: "He just jumped on the popular Lenlo bandwagon. His reasoning wasn't good either, Lenlo imo was pretty clearly just using a mostly gut read on that person who had barely posted so I didn't get why Zander was making a big deal about it. It felt like a weak reason to jump on a popular bandwagon."

 

Clov said: "Biggest issue is your claim of him piling on. I don't think Lenlo was really a popular wagon at all when Zander voted; he had votes from you and Sili. In a phase where it's 9 to lynch, 2 votes don't mean a whole lot. It means even less when there's five days left in the phase and neither your vote nor Sili's had much backing behind it."

 

You said: "Lenlo may have only had 2 votes then, but he put it to three which is a third of the vote. The rest of the votes were really spread out at the time too. Not only that, but there were a couple of people who had said things about Lenlo around there that they were iffy. It's not crazy to think that Zander was hoping to start a little run."

 

What's bugging me is that when Clov objected that Zander's vote was insignificant you offered a counterargument instead of saying "that's not what I was talking about".  But you seem to recognize that the vote was just in jest and the "piling on" came later.  It shows me you were probably thinking more about formulating a rebuttal to Clov than about your opinion of Zander.

 

 

 

i cant hate this

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  On 10/28/2015 at 6:33 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 6:32 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Town 65%

Acceptable.

 

Erm wait does that mean you have a scum lean on him?

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  On 10/28/2015 at 3:30 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:16 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:13 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

I've got a few people that I'm keeping an eye on but not anyone who stands out as much to me as Zander does.

For example? Who are these people? I have to assume you have stuff out there for them to respond to so you can alignment solve them as well so it shouldn't be a State secret, right?

 

 

I'll keep that to myself. No need to let them know I'm watching them.

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:23 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 2:53 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:17 AM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 11:12 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

Well I had some posts queued up but I lost them so oh well. But I think the push on me is stupid but not scummy. I think it was silli that was saying they were expecting me to finally say something when I got back but I pretty clearly stated in my post that I wasn't going to actually be able to catch up until later. So now I'm gonna give you some thoughts.

 

I don't really set out with a concrete strategy, but the Lenlo thing was kinda just looking for actions. I wasn't entirely happy with Lenlo's reactions to it but it wasn't terrible and I have a bigger scum read anyways.

 

I think Zander is scum. I thought his opening post felt forced but some people said it was just him so I was like whatever. Someone else pointed this out (I forget who) but he's spent a lot of time just defending and backing people up. It's a pretty easy tactic to lay low and get on some people's good side. Zander said that he had been attacking people though, but it wasn't a high risk one. He just jumped on the popular Lenlo bandwagon. His reasoning wasn't good either, Lenlo imo was pretty clearly just using a mostly gut read on that person who had barely posted so I didn't get why Zander was making a big deal about it. It felt like a weak reason to jump on a popular bandwagon. I'm gonna Vote: Zander

 

 

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In red are you referring to Lenlo's vote on Laine, which prompted Zander's initial vote? If so, let's recalibrate a little here. Zander's initial vote on Lenlo was a joke. Just like, accept that. It's a Zander thing. Moreover, I don't think town!Zander would pause to think that putting Lenlo at 3 is a bad look. That definitely does not mean that scum!Zander would not see the joke as a convenient opportunity to 'start a little run' as you characterize it in your quote. So with that in mind, here are the first three posts in which Zander converts to a serious vote. How does this impact your opinion?:

 

 

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I'm talking about Lenlo listed someone who had barely posted in his bottom three and Zander asked why that person stood out over others who had barely posted. Lenlo was saying that their posts just felt off and everything which I felt was a valid response since I think gut reads are a good starting point for suspicions. Anyways, Zander kept attacking Lenlo for it, asking for specifics when a gut read isn't going to get more specific than that. A gut read is a gut read. I felt as though it was a poor reason to push someone.

 

Yeah, I thought you were probably talking about Thane but I didn't want to assume it straight away

 

So here's what I'm looking at:

 

You said: "He just jumped on the popular Lenlo bandwagon. His reasoning wasn't good either, Lenlo imo was pretty clearly just using a mostly gut read on that person who had barely posted so I didn't get why Zander was making a big deal about it. It felt like a weak reason to jump on a popular bandwagon."

 

Clov said: "Biggest issue is your claim of him piling on. I don't think Lenlo was really a popular wagon at all when Zander voted; he had votes from you and Sili. In a phase where it's 9 to lynch, 2 votes don't mean a whole lot. It means even less when there's five days left in the phase and neither your vote nor Sili's had much backing behind it."

 

You said: "Lenlo may have only had 2 votes then, but he put it to three which is a third of the vote. The rest of the votes were really spread out at the time too. Not only that, but there were a couple of people who had said things about Lenlo around there that they were iffy. It's not crazy to think that Zander was hoping to start a little run."

 

What's bugging me is that when Clov objected that Zander's vote was insignificant you offered a counterargument instead of saying "that's not what I was talking about".  But you seem to recognize that the vote was just in jest and the "piling on" came later.  It shows me you were probably thinking more about formulating a rebuttal to Clov than about your opinion of Zander.

 

 

If you assumed it was Thane (I think this was the person) then why did you write out a long response about something else earlier? If you didn't want to assume then I don't get why you wrote a long response as though we were talking about Zander's vote for someone else. And I totally disagree that it was in jest. I think that he threw down the vote on the most popular train at the time in hopes of getting people to jump on. There were other people around that time who had said some iffy things about Lenlo so imo Zander was trying to get those people to jump on the wagon.

 

 

 

1st Red-  Because that prolly a pro town move....lololololololol

 

 

2nd Red: Feels like you're really just trying to...

 

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Anyway [v]Taborline[/v] scum playing ~well in this game, she's convinced me the least pending Rack's response and an out-of-game ISO on Pral.

Posted
  On 10/28/2015 at 3:33 PM, Hallia said:

Catching up on mobile.

 

Between the Nomi/Dice thing I really like Nomi's points. He's going above and beyond trying to explain himself

 

[v] Dice [/v]

 

For now.

 

And Cory - I said last night I was there to talk in real time with you and you vanished. I also said that I would do a re-read today and pay you special mind.

 

 

NOW THIS was the exact reason I went after Wolf!Hallia the last couple games....for going after Dice.....DIFFERENCE this time is i didnt have a BAD feeling about Hallia this time AND prolly more importantly  Dice isnt anywheres close to obv Town!Dice here and Im starting to feel like he's not part of my town.....sad face.

 

Does Wolf!Hallia make the SAME move 3 times in a row....me thinks not likely.

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If Nomi is a wolf literally slaughter all of Rack/Pral/Hallia with the most extreme of prejudice

 

I'm not joking

 

If we ever get that information through any means FOLLOW UP

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  On 10/28/2015 at 6:33 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 6:32 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Town 65%

Acceptable.

 

 

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 6:34 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 6:33 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 6:32 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Town 65%

Acceptable.

 

Erm wait does that mean you have a scum lean on him?

 

Considering I have read fully at most two of Dice's posts, I am not ready to act on a 10% discrepancy from the average. I am trying to consider Nomi's argument as well, and to be frank what I have read didn't sound like super serious Dice. But by the same token why does Dice need to be super serious to be town? No reason far as i can tell, so right now, I don't know if he is a wolf and found an angle to attack and has latched on desperately, or if he is town and is simply following his instinct.

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 6:36 PM, Shad_ said:

Don't math at me please. -_-

 

+75% Random Chance

-50% Dice being Dice

+23% I am town so I don't want to premise a lynch based on how a person plays.

+30% At least Dice isn't attacking me this game.

-7% Nomi seems to think Dice isn't genuine. I don't know if this is valid, but Nomi appears confident.

-3% Dice's if then argument is rediculous

+5% Nomi is consistently deflecting onto Dice and I. And Dice's position on Nomi's secrecy is at least understandable. Furthermoe Nomi should understand how Dice's position might be town since he has had to deal with Cormag, and Cormag in some ways is worse with logic.

-8% Dice isn't accounting for how severely open Nomi is being about his thoughts.

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 6:40 PM, cory caboose said:

Sili just typed two numbers close to eachother imo

Shows what you know...

Posted
  On 10/28/2015 at 3:36 PM, Yates said:

Zander - when you are caught up can you talk to me about where you are wrt Rack? Thanks, brother.

 

 

im still at this though ill be looking at him more closely but hes trending somewhat down for me.

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  On 10/28/2015 at 6:46 PM, cory caboose said:

If Nomi is a wolf literally slaughter all of Rack/Pral/Hallia with the most extreme of prejudice

 

I'm not joking

 

If we ever get that information through any means FOLLOW UP

=P

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