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[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/3/2015 at 3:54 AM, cory caboose said:

BFG

Zander

Shad

 

These are people I am ~99% sure are villagers.

 

Open question: If you could add one person to this list (besides yourself), who would you add?

[Cory Caboose]

Thane

Sili

 

Clov

 

Dice

[Cory Caboose]

Hallia

Sooh

Taborline

 

Yates

 

Lenlo
 

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/3/2015 at 3:58 AM, cory caboose said:

Thane

Sili

 

Clov

 

Dice

 

Open question: Which person on this list do you think is MOST likely to be a wolf?

[Zander?]

  On 10/27/2015 at 12:44 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 9:08 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 3:32 PM, Pralaya said:

Alright, caught up.

 

I kinda don't like people proclaiming that they are town in their first post. There were 2 or 3 such posts in this game right at the beginning. Not reading into that much but i generally see it as a good way for scum to start off with.

 

That said, the one person who has looked bad for me is zander. His first post (based on my previous point) looked kind of forced. Couple of others pointed it too.

 

  On 10/24/2015 at 1:53 PM, Zander said:

SWEEEEEEET RANDED TOWN AGAIN!!!!

 

Time to Wreck some Wolves.....

 

This is a PSA to let them know......

 

 

But, more importantly, I get a feeling that, besides his joke posts, he is spending more time defending others than scum-hunting. It is a very early feel however. Posts like these

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 12:55 AM, Zander said:

FWIW- I dont really Mafia!Sili really runs up against 3 of the best players in the game atp imo.

  On 10/26/2015 at 4:21 AM, Zander said:

Thane: Have you ever played with Thane before...its early D1 extremely normal for Thane atp imo

 

Sooh: I don't think her tone is off.  bad feeling i can agree with a bit because unlike innocent till proven guilty Sooh is always wolf till proven town to me.  but ive mislynched or helped to enough times to give her some more time before coming to a conclusion like that. 

 

lolololololol----Sorry Sooh

 

Me:  HI IM ZANDER

 

It almost seems like you were just picking names out of a hat.

 

 

And you complained about leaving my vote on you when you voted Corlanna first then i voted you.  and your vote was there till you made the comment and voted Sooh.....

 

im pretty happy keeping my vote where it is brah.

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:14 AM, Zander said:

fwiw:  i dont necessarily agree with all Thane's reads but I highly doubt wolf Thane puts this much effort into it this early imo.

 

[v]Zander[/v]

 

First, I completely disagree with your opinion about claiming town.  Yeah, it's kind of annoying, but having no numbers to back me up whatsoever I would strongly guess that it's came from town far more often than it has mafia.  At worst, it would be null.

 

More importantly, why do you feel him defending people is more likely to come from him as mafia than town?  Are the people he's defending his teammates?  TMIing reads on townies?

 

 

I think I would likewise be inclined to think it's far more likely to come from a town player, but this is where my questioning of my knowledge/capability to read Zander comes into play. That kind of enthusiasm/silliness is a constant in his posting, not something that stands out, so is it more likely to be genuine?

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 10:49 PM, dicetosser1 said:

it opened up   in my mind   the possibility that you might be scum together. Up to then I had you as pretty solid town. Hally as nothing. It caused a doubt hence i noted it

 

As for why??  using skeptical dice thinking : 1  Answering Nomi in that manner can get you brownie points. 2    Saying it on thread helps make sure Hally sees it whether she looks in the thread or the QT

 

 

I know its tinfoil hence why i noted it not voted it.

 

I think anyone who answered that question could be a team mate, if indeed Hally is scum.

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 10:49 PM, BFG said:

Good evening :)

 

Welcome, BFG! :D

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 11:28 PM, Nomi Sunrider said:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 9:26 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 4:15 PM, Nomi Sunrider said:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 3:32 PM, Pralaya said:

I kinda don't like people proclaiming that they are town in their first post.

 

Well, he did say his name was Zander. I'd give him a pass on that. Zander = lovable enthusiasm + personality + jokes + lynching townie sooh.

 

That's Zander. Hi Zander.

 

 

Pretty sure Alanna already asked this, but why do you think Sooh is townie?

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 4:55 PM, Nomi Sunrider said:

I'm not liable to lynch Sooh before she posts content. It's similar to my stance on BFG but not identical.

 

And why does it seemingly not reflect here?

 

 

Sooh is not different from how I remember, and also hasn't had much of a chance to post in this or other games in the past few days.

 

I get no negative indicators and I am not in any way tempted to attack her pre-engagement posts. A better read on her if she's guilty will come when she engages in the game more.

 

The impatience involved regarding Sooh is not something I share.

 

 

Ah, this would likely be a good reason why Sooh would have made her post about wanting to defend herself, if that's one of the first things she saw.

 

 

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 12:30 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 12:18 PM, cory caboose said:

I mean what she's asking for is reasonable and we are in no rush

 

Just, idk, there's something about her attitude that I can't put my finger on that's a little fly buzzing in my ear

 

Worrying too much when there's not really been that much said against her?

 

 

 

1st Red:  How do you feel about that now that we're later into the game??

 

2nd Red:  Please elaborate....

 

3rd Red;  in relation the the 2nd quoted post.. kinda feels to me like she's again leaving an out/bracktracking.  again reads change and shes a new player but this kind of stuck out to me after i thought she made a nice catch.

 

I could be wrong but im thinking it so ill mention it

[Zander?]

  On 11/3/2015 at 3:06 AM, Lenlo said:

Woah, calm down there mate.

 

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 3:46 AM, Hallia said:

I disagree Cory. I've kept a somewhat steady, if not super active presence.

 

Zander - Goooooosefrabahhh

 

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 3:55 AM, dicetosser1 said:

@ZANDER!   Go edit that post 2714 please.

 

I am absolutely serious.

 

 

im sorry i reacted like that.

 

edited as requested.

[Zander?]

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:21 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:01 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 12:56 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 12:54 PM, cory caboose said:

I have Tab polarized from town to Loki

 

I am traumatised after that game.

 

 

If it makes you feel better I'm traumatised after almost every game

 

 

Good, I'm not alone!

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:03 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 12:44 PM, Taborline said:

...this is where my questioning of my knowledge/capability to read Zander comes into play. That kind of enthusiasm/silliness is a constant in his posting, not something that stands out, so is it more likely to be genuine?

It is EXACTLY null for Zander.

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 12:44 PM, Taborline said:

I think anyone who answered that question could be a team mate, if indeed Hally is scum.

Wait. Can you explain why? I know we think about these sorts of things from different angles but I'm not convinced you are thinking this through.

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 12:44 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 4:55 PM, Nomi Sunrider said:

The impatience involved regarding Sooh is not something I share.

 

Ah, this would likely be a good reason why Sooh would have made her post about wanting to defend herself, if that's one of the first things she saw.

 

Why would you assume that post might be one of the first she saw? And even if you did; why not ASK SOOH instead of offering up an excuse? You know better than that...

 

 

Quote 1: That's exactly as far as I had gotten.

 

Quote 2: Because all of those posts were talking about tells for how Hally plays, she could conceivably use any of them to modify her play style, no one seemed more telling than another. Equally, none of them could be teammates, and Hally might not be scum. I didn't see there being a hint there.

 

Quote 3: You are right, I was trying to help answer Cory. I cited that one as it was the first I saw that might prompt that kind of reaction.

 

 

maybe im missing something but i dont feel like that answered the question

[Cory Caboose]

[Zander?]

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:51 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:38 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:21 PM, Taborline said:

Quote 2: Because all of those posts were talking about tells for how Hally plays, she could conceivably use any of them to modify her play style, no one seemed more telling than another. Equally, none of them could be teammates, and Hally might not be scum. I didn't see there being a hint there.

Okay but let me restate [Clov's?] question; why would that be scummy? If one of the people talking to Hally about her meta was scum with her, why not just coach her up in the QT? This isn't exactly the first time she's seen this info, btw, so I don't know if that might change your perception. The reality is that Hally just doesn't like to wolf. Like - at her core she doesn't like it. I don't think that's even something she can change. And if she tried FAKING her meta? I think that would be blatantly obvious. I'm guessing here but I'm pretty sure I'm right.

 

 

I think this is what I was very poorly trying to get at - any of those posts could be used or not used in the same fashion, so it doesn't really tell anything. It is good to know this isn't the first time she's seen this info.

 

 

so basically youre saying NOTHING here.

 

why did you make the original point then??

 

if im missing something what is it

 

lmk

[Zander?]

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:52 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:46 PM, Shad_ said:

Tab, I haven't dug into this discussion yet.  Fill me in in the meantime.  What do you think was said to Hallia that she, if scum, will use to her advantage in this game?

 

Any of those posts saying she plays a certain way, so she could try and do the opposite.

 

 

 

yes we are playing the game called Mafia.

 

almost feels like youre just saying things for the sake of saying them.

[Zander?]

  On 10/27/2015 at 3:45 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 3:20 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:52 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:46 PM, Shad_ said:

Tab, I haven't dug into this discussion yet.  Fill me in in the meantime.  What do you think was said to Hallia that she, if scum, will use to her advantage in this game?

 

Any of those posts saying she plays a certain way, so she could try and do the opposite.

 

 

Convince me that this is a serious opinion. 

 

 

For example, Cory said "She's not typically high volume but when she's really low on the spectrum it's usually a bad sign". So she could, perhaps, be more active.

 

Yates said: "Sadly yes. She will go long periods of time without saying a lot. Then post fluff if she isn't engaged in a game. But early on? She will typically play a little harder - and often hard enough to get an early Town read on. When she stays quiet I get concerned." So again, she could be more active.

 

Laine said: "When it comes to Hallehhh I just measure fluff to content. If fluff outweighs content, and she's hiding a bunch, she probably needs some pressure". So she could add more content and watch the fluff.

 

Clov said: "Whoever asked about Hallia - shes been less active her past few games, and was mafia in a couple, but she wasn't overly active in a town game. My key with her isn't the number of posts but how she's using them. Town Hallia is usually (slighty) more forthcoming with reads and some sort of justification." So maybe she can try and be more forthcoming with reads.

 

 

ummmm what?  i dont know if you convinced Shad but id love for you to convince me.

 

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 3:49 PM, Taborline said:

As for what I think of Sooh, I need to go through and re-read :)

 

 

but yet you had already posted that you were slightly suspicious of Sooh, made posts and had questions and comments on her.

 

fencesitting/backtracking and leaving yourself outs is not a great look.

[Sili Quirrels]

hey hold on. i saw my name in green, and a few blues above it. have i been downgraded cory? D=

 

(Shocking)

[dicetosser1]

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:46 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:31 AM, dicetosser1 said:

@BFG

 

Town

 

BFG

Thane  

Zander

 

Clov    this one is because i thought id worked something out but a recent post makes me think im wrong about what i saw

Lenlo   keep going back and forth here   i liked how he responded to rack. hes tried to work around with zander

Cory/laine   have seen things i associate with towncory but hes not the force of mafia nature as per normal. that affects the tone i hear when i read him. Not enuff laine for me to have an idea on her. Leaning town here

 

 

I dont really have a  scum lean bunch as such.  I was wrong with Nomi obviously but some of the people left COULD be scum but I cant sit here and say because of this and this and this.

 

sili   early on had him as town  but hes quiet and has said some stuff i find myself scratching my head at. If we knew there was 3rd party he'd be my pick.

Sooh  i just dont know. Im almost as bad as zander at mislynching her

Hally  im not feeling happy energetic hally  her posts..   some are good some arnt. 

Tab    need activity to have any chance of figuring out

 

 

Really these ones above would be more a null for me cause i just arnt sure

I'm not really sure what you mean in your read on Clov?

 

 

and I am not going to expand on it either.

 

 

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 2:00 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:54 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:51 AM, Clovdyx said:

Zander, talk to me about something that doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Lenlo?  I'm pretty sure I asked you this before, but I'm genuinely struggling to come up with any push you've tried to make besides him.

 

 

....um have you seen anything Ive posted about Dice??

 

i posted a question just a short while ago..

 

waiting for someone to ask me about it....

 

 

 

 

 

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:56 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:33 AM, Zander said:

you guys wanna know a secret??

 

 

 

BFG GOAT!!!

 

 

:wub:

 

YOU WANNA KNOW ANOTHER REASON IM SURE DICE IS SCUM

 

YOU NOTICE DICE HAS HARDLY PUSHED BACK AT ME FOR SUSSING HIM AND HASHARDLY REPLIED TO MY COMMENTS ON HIM....TOWN!DICE NEVER WOULD DO THAT.

 

hes trying to avoid drawing more heat on him.

 

 

a) keep dreaming. If I wanna push back i will but why the hell do i wanna push back at someone i think is town when Im trying to get my scum read lynched?

 

b) Im not real keen on a repeat perfomance of Zander v Lenlo except I have to put up with ure yelling.

 

 

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 2:52 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:31 AM, dicetosser1 said:

@BFG

 

Town

 

BFG

Thane  

Zander

 

Clov    this one is because i thought id worked something out but a recent post makes me think im wrong about what i saw

Lenlo   keep going back and forth here   i liked how he responded to rack. hes tried to work around with zander

Cory/laine   have seen things i associate with towncory but hes not the force of mafia nature as per normal. that affects the tone i hear when i read him. Not enuff laine for me to have an idea on her. Leaning town here

 

 

I dont really have a  scum lean bunch as such.  I was wrong with Nomi obviously but some of the people left COULD be scum but I cant sit here and say because of this and this and this.

 

sili   early on had him as town  but hes quiet and has said some stuff i find myself scratching my head at. If we knew there was 3rd party he'd be my pick.

Sooh  i just dont know. Im almost as bad as zander at mislynching her

Hally  im not feeling happy energetic hally  her posts..   some are good some arnt. 

Tab    need activity to have any chance of figuring out

 

 

Really these ones above would be more a null for me cause i just arnt sure

 

 

so youre telling us after like a 1000 day Day1 you have NO REAL SCUM candidates.....

 

 

dude my job is to find 1 scum per day if i can. I was wrong D1. I dont have one right now that stands out to me. You dont like that?  poor you

[Zander?]

  On 10/27/2015 at 4:19 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 4:06 PM, Yates said:

Yeah. I should have left already...

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 4:01 PM, Taborline said:

I had never intended to suggest that people were definitely doing that in the first place. What I actually said was "I think anyone who answered that question could be a team mate, if indeed Hally is scum." Meaning it was a possibility, and indeed I clarified "Because all of those posts were talking about tells for how Hally plays, she could conceivably use any of them to modify her play style, no one seemed more telling than another. Equally, none of them could be teammates, and Hally might not be scum. I didn't see there being a hint there."

 

I don't see how I'm backing out?

???????????????????

 

There are two options.

1. You disagree with me. You believe people stating Hally's meta could have been team mates coaching her and thus if Hally flips scum at least one of the people coaching her would LIKELY be a partner.

or

2. You agree with me. You believe that meta is not the same thing as coaching and nothing said could actually be useful in terms of coaching and thus the whole thing is null EVEN IF Hally flips scum.

 

I guess there's an option three:

3. You acknowledge that either 1 *OR* 2 could be the case - but then why even bring it up?

 

 

The conversation was taking place, and I was just replying to it and putting my thoughts out there that any of those replies to my question could be something or could be nothing, so Dice's tinfoil:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 10:49 PM, dicetosser1 said:

it opened up   in my mind   the possibility that you might be scum together. Up to then I had you as pretty solid town. Hally as nothing. It caused a doubt hence i noted it

 

As for why??  using skeptical dice thinking : 1  Answering Nomi in that manner can get you brownie points. 2    Saying it on thread helps make sure Hally sees it whether she looks in the thread or the QT

 

 

I know its tinfoil hence why i noted it not voted it."

 

Didn't seem like it was something that could be pursued (I don't know why it's putting my name there in the quote, but it was Dice's post).

 

But what you said in this post, and then this one make sense, that it might be too difficult of a task for her to pretend to be town. Which still leaves those posts not meaning anything one way or the other.

 

 

Yates GOAT

 

1st Red:  You didnt really answer Yates's question at all. 

 

2nd Red: Then why bring them up?

 

I mean like the whole point I THINK youre trying to make would have been discussed in a Maf QT as opposed to open thread right as pertaining to the whole coaching thing if Hallia was scum.  Also Hallia pretty great player so the whole coaching by teammates thing is pretty meh.

 

im not feeling good vibes here Tab.

[dicetosser1]

  On 11/3/2015 at 3:56 AM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 3:54 AM, cory caboose said:

BFG

Zander

Shad

 

These are people I am ~99% sure are villagers.

 

Open question: If you could add one person to this list (besides yourself), who would you add?

 

 

Thane

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:49 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 11:12 PM, rackcitysteelers said:

Well I had some posts queued up but I lost them so oh well. But I think the push on me is stupid but not scummy. I think it was silli that was saying they were expecting me to finally say something when I got back but I pretty clearly stated in my post that I wasn't going to actually be able to catch up until later. So now I'm gonna give you some thoughts.

 

I don't really set out with a concrete strategy, but the Lenlo thing was kinda just looking for actions. I wasn't entirely happy with Lenlo's reactions to it but it wasn't terrible and I have a bigger scum read anyways.

 

I think Zander is scum. I thought his opening post felt forced but some people said it was just him so I was like whatever. Someone else pointed this out (I forget who) but he's spent a lot of time just defending and backing people up. It's a pretty easy tactic to lay low and get on some people's good side. Zander said that he had been attacking people though, but it wasn't a high risk one. He just jumped on the popular Lenlo bandwagon. His reasoning wasn't good either, Lenlo imo was pretty clearly just using a mostly gut read on that person who had barely posted so I didn't get why Zander was making a big deal about it. It felt like a weak reason to jump on a popular bandwagon. I'm gonna Vote: Zander

 

Whose actions were you looking for, apart from Lenlo's?

 

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:17 AM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:15 AM, rackcitysteelers said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:08 AM, Clovdyx said:

Things that make me say, "Hmmm..."

Penny for you thoughts?

 

 

Your argument is not very good, and Sili following you - if serious - is terribad.

 

 

I read it as a sarcasm vote.

 

 

this is not a bad post from Tab...shows she is paying attention and into it.

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 12:51 PM, Taborline said:

Rephrase that question maybe, what were you hoping to achieve, Rack? I didn't feel the benefit for Town from your Lenlo posts.

 

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:55 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:46 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

I'd give dice some more time. I don't have the impression he's a wolf here. The interaction dice/nomi could be a heated one, yes, but i think the wolf is more to be found on Nomi's side.

 

Can you be more specific about why you don't like Nomi? I saw your post asking him for some explaining, but you don't really say more than he seems off, or you don't like a post, but you don't say why.

 

This kind of "I think we should look elsewhere......" without a clearer explanation is a bit suspect.

 

 

 

 

lololololol.  im liking these posts better fwiw

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 4:03 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 3:57 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

I think Nomi has some sort of secret agenda, already pointing out people now as mislynch targets later. I also REALLY have the impression that it's a player we know under another name. The read on me felt like TMI for someone who just has a first game with me.

 

Call me suspicious, but something is off with Nomi, and at one point i'll figure out what it is

 

I understand that that's frustrating, I guess, but I don't see why it makes them scum.

 

 

 

And just after i start feeling better about Tab i see this.

 

you dont see why someone who felt a player was posting with what they perceived was TMI wouldnt seem scummy......

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 4:56 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 4:54 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 4:31 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 4:01 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

Dice would be town this game imo. Nomi, not so sure

You think? I'm having trouble coming to this conclusion. What are you seeing?

 

Yates, his play has gone nearly FullDICE, but nothing says wolf here to me. I'm highly trusting my gut here for the moment. When the game continues and we have a few flips, we'll see more clearly.

 

dice is not a target this D1.  

 

 

You keep making me want to vote Dice even more.

 

 

 

i agree about wanting to vote Dice myself...but why does this post make You want to?

[Zander?]

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:38 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 5:21 PM, Shad_ said:

Do you think Dice and Nomi can be w/w or does a scum flip from one clear the other?

 

No, I don't think a flip would necessarily clear the other.

 

 

 

thoughts now?

[Zander?]

  On 10/29/2015 at 6:00 PM, Taborline said:

[v]Rack[/v]

 

But I could also go Dice.

 

 

but in a previous post you said you felt better about Dice, had Dice an Thane as your top 2 scum reads (also mentioned they werent likely w/w iyo) and and you wanna vote Rack (fyi=Flipped Town) and dont mention Thane....

 

[Zander?]

TL DR on Tab

 

ive liked some posts, and dislikes others.

 

i feel like shes backtracking/fencesitting/leaving outs a lot

 

some of the stuff shes mentioned especially concerning Hallia have been weird/awkward.posts.

 

i know shes a newer player so im trying to take that into consideration.

 

but overall shes trended down my list.

[Zander?]

im too tired to do anymore ISO's tonight (still wanna do Hallia's, Sooh's and BFG's)

 

but ill br around somewhat for a bit if people wanna chat

[Yates]

  On 11/3/2015 at 2:23 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 2:18 AM, cory caboose said:

Yates did.

:/

 

Then ignore him

 

Nope. What I said was this:

  On 11/2/2015 at 4:05 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/2/2015 at 3:41 PM, cory caboose said:

What have you done this game that is so impressive and mighty, Shad?

 

What's your great amazing contribution that you can hang your hat on?

Bad.

 

Don't belittle someone who is actually putting in effort and work. You can claim to disagree but he is contributing. And this post is pure cancerous negativity that does not advance the game.

 

Trying to spin this like *I* am bullying Cory or calling him a cancer is pure fabrication.

 

Pretty sure Cory knows I absolutely was NOT calling him specifically a cancer because of this:

  On 11/2/2015 at 4:36 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/2/2015 at 4:09 PM, cory caboose said:

I'm not belittling him, I'm asking why he is disappointed in me.

 

Yates we are playing a yelling game on the internet. Please do not forget that

Okay. But I want this to be a nice Town to live in. Please do not forget that.

 

  On 11/2/2015 at 4:39 PM, cory caboose said:

Understood.

[Yates]

  On 11/3/2015 at 2:30 AM, cory caboose said:

There's a bit from Yates on d1 about Lenlo that actually makes me think they have slightly higher w/w equity than most. It's a joke he made that I think he's the type of guy to make exactly with a fellow wolf. If you know what it is, props to you.

Oh I know what it is!

 

 

 

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Nothing. This scum buddy jokey stuff isn't even a real thing I do.