Age of Legends [standard] Mafia - Game Over

[Calder]

I kind of view calling a lynch unattractive the same as defending, but do agree it is more scummy than outright taking a stance. But, i dont have a history with Crusher so i have to purely go off his few posts that triggered people. That was not gonna move me off Shad, considering my distrust of Kivam. Not realy sure how i am supposed to engage subsequent to his posts, when a lot of feelings where peoples meta calls on him.

[Nynaeve]

Calder is scum, imo. His responses say as much. Also I sense that he's a bit mad at his deceased scummate. Heh.

[Calder]

My flip is gonna make me smile.

[Clovdyx]

Continuing the "avoid while subtly defend but not actually defending" thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Crush, who would you have us look at besides Kiv and Nyn if you flip town? Because I don't exactly feel like a town flip from you would look terrible for them under the circumstances.

Yep. Hate this post. Back to [v]Shad[/v].

 
Why do you hate that post, Calder?

Several posts before he expressed a willingness to join the Crusher lynch. But, then this question doesn't read to me as if he suspects him. It really concerns me that he is trying to line up someone for tomorrow to lynch once Crusher flips town, under the guise that its a strong case bc Crusher (may he rest in peace) also suspected him.

He also hasn't been on Crusher much before this. He is just joining and to post this doesn't feel like he believes he is scum. So why the willingness to lynch him?

 

 

The focus here, again, remains on Kivam's push.  It has very little to do with the target, only Kivam's actions.  

 

 

Kivam - i did not say that he was trying to line up a lynch on you or nyn. I agree that it is the opposite. He seems to want someone else to look at that isnt either of you. Which is the main reason it struck me. Bc he is saying not these guys Crusher, who else can we pin it on.

 

 

This was to Kivam, about Shad.  Again, it has nothing ot do with Crusher's alignment, despite the reference.

 

 

 

 

Kivam - i did not say that he was trying to line up a lynch on you or nyn. I agree that it is the opposite. He seems to want someone else to look at that isnt either of you. Which is the main reason it struck me. Bc he is saying not these guys Crusher, who else can we pin it on.

 

So it pinged you specifically because I wouldn't want to lynch Nyn or Kiv if the flip is town?  Why did that in particular make it scummy?  Would the post have been ok had I left the door open to suss the two of them as well?

 

 

We have thought each other are scum for awhile now, so any little post either of us makes is more likely to seem scummy than if someone else had said the same thing. 

 

Looking at it in a vacuum (as best I can) the only truly troubling aspect is that you said you would be open to lynching Crusher, but I read that post as you feeling the opposite about him. That I didn't like. The rest is theorizing/bc it was Kivam who asked. Because if you were lynched and flipped scum than Kivam would be my top suspect. He has twice now challenged my stance on you. The first more subtly by saying it was unlikely to lead to a lynch and I should pack it in. Therefore, it does bother me to have known he would look worse if you flipped scum to then see you specifically take the time to make it known that if Crusher is town than neither Kivam or Nyn look that bad. Just feels like another connection.

 

 

Same thing. Another reference to Crusher, but it's all used to sort out alignments on other players.

 

 

 

In all of these, he keeps going back to how other players interacted with Crusher, but he doesn't seem to draw any conclusion towards Crusher's alignment from it.  If my top three mafia suspects all push the same person, you can guarantee I'm not lynching that person - and I'm going to make it known.  I'm going to be pointing to the target and saying, "HEY, THIS GUY IS PROBABLY TOWN, LOOK AT THE SCUMMY PEOPLE ON HIM".  

 

What I'm not going to do is explain why those three are mafia and leave my read on the target up for debate.

[Clovdyx]

My flip is gonna make me smile.

 

Not as much as it is the rest of us.

[Zander?]

Zander how do you feel about Thane having you as #1 Villager?

 

I have no problem with that part of his post.

[Nolder]

Yeah I'm officially retracting my villager read on Calder and putting him in Wildcard.

Only thing that's throwing me is his bravado. He doesn't really seem to care that everything he says just makes him look worse and worse.

Is it possible he's madmaf who has already given up hope?

[Nynaeve]

 

Zander how do you feel about Thane having you as #1 Villager?

 

I have no problem with that part of his post.

 

 

lol of course you don't  xD

[Nolder]

 

Zander how do you feel about Thane having you as #1 Villager?

 

I have no problem with that part of his post.

 

Is there a part you do have a problem with?

[Calder]

Brunch in a few. So will try to pop back in shortly.

[Zander?]

My flip is gonna make me smile.

[Calder]

 

My flip is gonna make me smile.

 

 

Not as much as it is the rest of us.

Btw to interact with Crusher it would have required he actually bothered posting. So not trusting the people voting him was what was left.

 

Your gonna be mad at me. Love ya.

[Zander?]

 

 

Zander how do you feel about Thane having you as #1 Villager?

 

I have no problem with that part of his post.

 

 

lol of course you don't  xD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zander how do you feel about Thane having you as #1 Villager?

 

I have no problem with that part of his post.

 

Is there a part you do have a problem with?

 

 

Yes there is.

[Clovdyx]

Also, just in case anybody has any doubts...

 

 

I think Crusher-Kivam would be an unlikely, but not impossible, team.  That means POE is down to Hallia/Calder/Shad......../Kiv......../ZanderFPS.  Calder-Shad should never be teammates, so Hallia is pretty much guaranteed mafia at this point?

 

Well i think the last 2 scum are in this group - Hallia/Calder/Shad (big gap).....Zander

Since i am Calder, i would prefer one of the other two in the main clump.

 

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Are you FoSing Clov?

Can you define that term for me? We don't use it on WF.

 
Finger of Suspicion. It's basically nudging someone for doing something scummy. I wanna make sure that's what you were doing in that post where you mentioned Clov, cause I wasn't entirely sure.

Thank you (and also Nolder). None of that is scummy. That is why its impressive on Clov's part. It is going to genuinely work for at least a phase or two. He wont win off of it, but he drags a lost game out with an impressive scum performance. I really like it.

Also I peeked Shad last night. Clean as a baby's bottom.

 

 

 

So my POE mirrors Calder's POE, minus I put Kivam in there (with a good sized gap between the bottom three).  His bottom three would come down to Hallia, Shad, and him - which is a weird thing to say.  But he's claiming a peek on Shad, so obviously he's NOT the cop...but I'm pretty sure no townie is going to go that route anyways.  

 

Basically, his reads jump all over the place and have no consistency that a townie should.

[Zander?]

@ Clov- Straight up you think Calder is scum?

 

@ Calder- Straight up you think Calder Clov is scum?

 

Answer truthfully cause if not I'll cry and be really really hurt and scarred emotionally forever and ever.

 

FWIW Calder didnt answer my question.....

[Calder]

Long live the soveriegn ation of Wafia.

 

Also. Prepare yourselves for 3 days of this people.

[Clovdyx]

@Mod - Can you shorten the deadline if we reach, say, 80% majority with no intention to move?  Nobody cares about that holiday anyways.

[Nynaeve]

Seconded

[Zander?]

Thirdededededed?????

[Calder]

Ummm. No. Scum rule proposal not allowed.

 

Also, Clov getting bogged down in my made up reads makes me smile. Giving legitimacy to a list that i put myself at #2 and my boy Zander at #4.

 

I would never. I actually would.

[Calder]

 

@ Clov- Straight up you think Calder is scum?

 

@ Calder- Straight up you think Calder Clov is scum?

 

Answer truthfully cause if not I'll cry and be really really hurt and scarred emotionally forever and ever.

 

 

FWIW Calder didnt answer my question.....

Hell yes he is scum.

 

[V]Calder[/v]

[Clovdyx]

Town core has decided.  Day phase ends tomorrow at whatever time is most convenient for BFG.  

 

I will now be PMing her Disney gifs, pictures of rocks, and a slew of lovey dovey emoticons to bribe her.

[Calder]

Since proposals are allowed. I have my own:

 

My vote represents 51% of the total votes going forward. Make this happen BFG.

[Clovdyx]

Ummm. No. Scum rule proposal not allowed.

 

Also, Clov getting bogged down in my made up reads makes me smile. Giving legitimacy to a list that i put myself at #2 and my boy Zander at #4.

 

I would never. I actually would.

 

 

Some secrets come back to haunt you.

[Nynaeve]