Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Talya]

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:42 PM, Sooh said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:35 PM, Talya said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 4:53 PM, cory caboose said:

So serious chats:

 

 

One thing that's been rattling in my brain the last few days is the effect of the four-day lead up going into the game. IE the mafia group have had ample preparation time and may be more co-ordinated than your average group being thrown into the fire. Whether or not they would use that preparation time to actually develop either a strategy or direct efforts into getting past the radar of specific players is a question as well, because they might have just said "hi" and slithered away and not really cared.

 

But considering this game seems relatively scum-sided in the first place, it's just something to think about. I've been thinking a lot about Sili's entrance in particular, as per what I know about what he believes his villager tells are and what he thinks a player like me would look for.

 

 

This isn't anything even realistically helpful but as per usual standard if you are a villager I'd love you see you being super villagery so I have less to figure out. tyty

Ok, so never thought about that. But during that time wouldn't they have been able to talk about how they can town tell more as well as strategy.

 

Out of interest, what are the things you look for in sili, and what does he think they are. If there is a difference then you would be able to spot if he was trying to push what he thought you looked for?

 

If I go with first reaction on reading through first time , I thought Sili and Sooh's interaction looked staged, but I would have nothing to base that on, just a feeling and it was the start of the game, lol

 

It's not impossible that some interaction may have occurred, but I would think that Kivam would do his best not to allow it. 

 

Talya, what do you mean by "staged"?

 

 

Sounded false or set up. I just put it there, because so many times I've had instant thoughts and dismissed them only to be right. I'm not pushing it, because it was just a flash thought, but I put it there to remind myself I thought it. So there is no accusations, because it was a gut reaction, which could be so wrong. Also putting it there, may gauge other's opinions or reactions especially as Cory had mentioned about Sili.

[Leelou]

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:44 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:39 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:36 PM, Talya said:

Why Cory Leelou?

 

I can't focus on anything.

 

 

... Are you saying this is my fault?

 

 

Not entirely. Enabler. :p 

[Talya]

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:39 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:36 PM, Talya said:

Why Cory Leelou?

 

I can't focus on anything. Also not really seeing that the mafia team would get the advantage of being able to talk for 4 days before the game starts. 

 

 

So what was the reason for voting for Cory? I don't think this really answers it

[Verbal32]

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:39 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:36 PM, Talya said:

Why Cory Leelou?

 

I can't focus on anything. Also not really seeing that the mafia team would get the advantage of being able to talk for 4 days before the game starts. 

 

 

Are you thinking TMI slip?

[Leelou]

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:54 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:39 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:36 PM, Talya said:

Why Cory Leelou?

 

I can't focus on anything. Also not really seeing that the mafia team would get the advantage of being able to talk for 4 days before the game starts. 

 

 

Are you thinking TMI slip?

 

 

Yes. 

 

Has Key been on yet? 

[Cory Caboose]

For Talya's eyes only, if you are legitimately curious about Sili, here's what I have in my notes through ~page 7:

 

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Sili

 

Votes John Snow (#6)

- Votes Lenlo (#10) - is Sili being this reactionary a good sign? He seems to overplaying his meta; he’s self-aware that he forgets to vote a lot of as a wolf, so him making a concentrated effort to vote early and often feels more like he’s trying to play to what people expect of him as a villager and not actually genuinely browsing the thread and poking his head out.

“Bored of Lenlo” (#14), switches to Sooh.

- “I am hurt Tina” (#14), dismissive and trying to not look concerned. Not really buying this from Sili.

#20 Meh, not sure if this is villagery or wolfy from Sili.

+ Probing Sooh on vote on Tayla (#22)

This isn’t a terrible post (#27)

- Takes shot at easy target Ocicat (#71) - wolfy even if he’s right, huehuehuehue

“Most of the thread is town except Cory” (#114)

 

#22 is sort of interesting. Sili and I have played together a lot to the point where he knows what I expect of him in both roles and could figuratively think of some game plan in which he could try to potentially fool me because he knows I am always going to be looking hard at him.

 

If you want meta on him, his ranges are pretty balanced. Rather than give him a road map to any newer tells I've picked up I'll just be loud and annoying if he hits on anything I've marked down in my brain.

 

Right now, my level of confidence in my read (if I had to sort the 4-5 players I have reads on, he'd be one of the lower ones, but that's not worth much so early into a game). Some of his posts are okay, and I might just be going insane and overthinking things, but I think I should have a decent read on that slot by EOD.
 

[Cory Caboose]

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:54 PM, Verbal32 said:

Are you thinking TMI slip?

 

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:56 PM, Leelou said:

Yes. 

 

Has Key been on yet? 

 

 

You guys are kidding, right?

 

Who do you think you are talking about?

[Leelou]

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:57 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:54 PM, Verbal32 said:

Are you thinking TMI slip?

 

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:56 PM, Leelou said:

Yes. 

 

Has Key been on yet? 

 

 

You guys are kidding, right?

 

Who do you think you are talking about?

 

 

Does this look like my kidding face? 

[Cory Caboose]

 

I don't want to shoot an angle so I am asking Kivam something. Feel free to continue.

[Talya]

I have heard someone say in the last game about him not voting enough for his town meta, so interesting that you brought that up.

 

Thanks for that.

 

@ Leelou, if he was Mafia, why bring it up. Not that I think it makes him either alignment on that. I don't think Kiv would let them talk in their thread, but 4 days to think through you strategy with or without your team is something to bear in mind.

[Leelou]

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:05 PM, Talya said:

I have heard someone say in the last game about him not voting enough for his town meta, so interesting that you brought that up.

 

Thanks for that.

 

@ Leelou, if he was Mafia, why bring it up. Not that I think it makes him either alignment on that. I don't think Kiv would let them talk in their thread, but 4 days to think through you strategy with or without your team is something to bear in mind.

 

If he would be trying to use it as a way to incriminate someone, then why not? 

[Talya]

I see where you are coming from, but it would be good to see where he went with it first

[Kivam]

 

VOTE COUNT

 

Sili (2) - Tina, KeyBOOSE

Lenlo (1) - Sili

John Snow (2) - Ocicat, Dice

Keyboose (2) - Eldrick, Leelou

Eldrick (1)  - Talya

 

 

9 to lynch

[Cory Caboose]

I believe that Eldrick and Leelou are both trying to vote the same Keyboose, Kiv.

 

Also pls answer question so I can post more eyeroll emoticons under your blessing.

[Sooh]

Interesting. Cory hinting at mafia having had the opportunity to talk before the game started, and then Talya immediately suggesting that Sili and I have staged our conversation. That's convenient. 

[michellem]

I have just had chocolate.

 

I have a cat purring on my lap.

 

There will be bacon for dinner.

 

I finally remembered it's friday and gametime.

 

YUSS.

 

Hi everyone

 

Only 11 pages, this is actually doable

[Cory Caboose]

Hi Mish <3

[Verbal32]

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:56 PM, cory caboose said:

For Talya's eyes only, if you are legitimately curious about Sili, here's what I have in my notes through ~page 7:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Sili

 

Votes John Snow (#6)

- Votes Lenlo (#10) - is Sili being this reactionary a good sign? He seems to overplaying his meta; he’s self-aware that he forgets to vote a lot of as a wolf, so him making a concentrated effort to vote early and often feels more like he’s trying to play to what people expect of him as a villager and not actually genuinely browsing the thread and poking his head out.

“Bored of Lenlo” (#14), switches to Sooh.

- “I am hurt Tina” (#14), dismissive and trying to not look concerned. Not really buying this from Sili.

#20 Meh, not sure if this is villagery or wolfy from Sili.

+ Probing Sooh on vote on Tayla (#22)

This isn’t a terrible post (#27)

- Takes shot at easy target Ocicat (#71) - wolfy even if he’s right, huehuehuehue

“Most of the thread is town except Cory” (#114)

 

#22 is sort of interesting. Sili and I have played together a lot to the point where he knows what I expect of him in both roles and could figuratively think of some game plan in which he could try to potentially fool me because he knows I am always going to be looking hard at him.

 

If you want meta on him, his ranges are pretty balanced. Rather than give him a road map to any newer tells I've picked up I'll just be loud and annoying if he hits on anything I've marked down in my brain.

 

Right now, my level of confidence in my read (if I had to sort the 4-5 players I have reads on, he'd be one of the lower ones, but that's not worth much so early into a game). Some of his posts are okay, and I might just be going insane and overthinking things, but I think I should have a decent read on that slot by EOD.

 

 

When Leelou and I were mafia together a while back, I absolutely used the "roadmap" angle to not want to talk more about her on thread.  Just humorous that you used the exact same term in the exact same way that I did as scum.  Just sayin'.

 

:-)

[Taborline]

Hi Mish!

[Leelou]

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:17 PM, Sooh said:

Interesting. Cory hinting at mafia having had the opportunity to talk before the game started, and then Talya immediately suggesting that Sili and I have staged our conversation. That's convenient. 

 

Mhm

[Verbal32]

I think I missed playing in a game with you, Cory.

 

 

 

 

Yeah yeah, color me shocked as well.

[Talya]

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:09 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:05 PM, Talya said:

I have heard someone say in the last game about him not voting enough for his town meta, so interesting that you brought that up.

Thanks for that.

@ Leelou, if he was Mafia, why bring it up. Not that I think it makes him either alignment on that. I don't think Kiv would let them talk in their thread, but 4 days to think through you strategy with or without your team is something to bear in mind.

 

 

If he would be trying to use it as a way to incriminate someone, then why not?

Would it not have been better to see what he did from there, now he is unlikely to. So the point is lost.

[Leelou]

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:21 PM, Talya said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:09 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:05 PM, Talya said:

I have heard someone say in the last game about him not voting enough for his town meta, so interesting that you brought that up.

Thanks for that.

@ Leelou, if he was Mafia, why bring it up. Not that I think it makes him either alignment on that. I don't think Kiv would let them talk in their thread, but 4 days to think through you strategy with or without your team is something to bear in mind.

 

If he would be trying to use it as a way to incriminate someone, then why not?

Would it not have been better to see what he did from there, now he is unlikely to. So the point is lost.

 

 

Why is this bugging you so much? 

[Cory Caboose]

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:20 PM, Verbal32 said:

When Leelou and I were mafia together a while back, I absolutely used the "roadmap" angle to not want to talk more about her on thread.  Just humorous that you used the exact same term in the exact same way that I did as scum.  Just sayin'.

 

:-)

 

[Verbal32]

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:21 PM, Talya said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:09 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 6:05 PM, Talya said:

I have heard someone say in the last game about him not voting enough for his town meta, so interesting that you brought that up.

Thanks for that.

@ Leelou, if he was Mafia, why bring it up. Not that I think it makes him either alignment on that. I don't think Kiv would let them talk in their thread, but 4 days to think through you strategy with or without your team is something to bear in mind.

 

If he would be trying to use it as a way to incriminate someone, then why not?

Would it not have been better to see what he did from there, now he is unlikely to. So the point is lost.

 

??

 

If he's town, then he wouldn't want to bring it up so that it would be more effective to catch scum.

 

If he's scum, he would and should bring it up to gain town cred for the 'thought process'.