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I really have to do housework for the next few hours, as I have guests arriving tomorrow afternoon. I'll be on later.

 

Fingers crossed for you Talya :)

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@Zander - IF Rand flips town, and that's a big if imo, then this is something I'd definitely consider.

 

Would also make me suspect Verb a bit as well since he's sort of bandwagoning the theory and now backing off a bit.

 

Would still rather resolve Rand first before I start to tinfoil on others when he could very well be a wolf. I would hate to get off track at this point. Town could very easily be out of firepower based on how roles were randomized and scum probably have at lease one more shot in their pocket.

 

you know what im with you on this pending Alanna's answer to Shad's question. we need the info from these two to progress this game atp.

 

[v[ Rand [/v]

 

 

 

 

I like the way Shad thinks: Rand was looking bad D1, so probably shot N1 and is out of bullets. He's a harmless wolf: he can bark, but not bite.  Rather kill a wolf that can still bite.

 

Thane is soooo town this game it scares me!!!  Good job Pops!!!

 

But we have to remember theres a 2x Vig as well.  Could Alanna's push and subsequent wolfy play be an attempt to  draw off of him and on to her cause he may be the 2x Vig?

 

 

Im starting to sketch out on Zander. These two posts make me think he is looking for a reason NOT to vote Laine

 

 

Zander wasn't on Alanna. do you still feel like this Dice?

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Regardless of how Rand flips Verb is still a wolf most likely.

 

Rand = wolf then we know he was lying as an excuse not to shoot Verb.

 

Rand = town then Verb still probably a wolf because of how he handled yesterday's EOD and voted Rand over a confirmed wolf.

 

Still wanna lynch Rand first though

 

 

I cut the above out of somebody elses quote  thats why it looks weird

 

 

Actually id rather go Verb  Ive got this nagging feeling that Rands gonna flip town. It seems too easy and then theres that first post of his today   its just SOOOO derp!  and the way he wrote it felt very honest to me

 

Plus in your scenario above Verb is always Mafia in either option and you think snows out of shots...so why go him first?

 

 

 

Dice wants to lynch Verb here and does ask AJ why it had to be Rand first.

 

he then does go to vote Rand.

 

I'm seeing Dice here questioning and paying attention to what is going on. I believe that Dice/Wolf is more lazy.

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Day Five Vote Count One

 

 

Not Voting (6/6):

BFG, AJ, Talya, Dice, Zander, Thane

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.  You currently have 47.5 hours.

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I don't think my late vote on Laine looks bad when you take into account that I actively encouraged players to move over so that I could hammer. Which I did prior to Laine attempting to at least stall her lynch with the DL looming an hour away. Anybody remember her reaction to that?

 

I'm guessing wolves thought they could go for NL in that situation. Verb voting Rand over Laine to "complete the consistency" despite having a wolf read on Laine would make sense here on this theory.

 

Anyway - I'll be on break in about an hour and can respond more accordingly.

 

Dont like this post. I aalready raised the blue bit but here hes using it in a way that feels liek he is trying to take credit for finding it.

 

 

Besides - you keep pointing at me like I control your vote or something. THAT'S what is laughable here. "AJ said to stay put so even though there were pages of development elsewhere I voted to complete the consistency although by my own logic I should've seen Laine as another wolf read sitting at L-1"

 

Bogus dude. Come on

 

I was wavering, and I had already listed you as a top town read.  When you're not sure, sheeping them is a solid strat.  Don't even pretend that's not true.  So if say....Dice had said to stay the course, I would not put the same value as you or Shad (at the time).

 

I didn't want to second guess myself, so I agreed with the advice and stuck on Rand.  Obviously a mistake, but I needed to make a choice.

 

 

Now thats just hurtful verb! 

 

 

Starts to question AJ here

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long story short i dont think im voting verb at this time. BUT i want you to dig in verb, We got 24 hrs or so

 

I AM looking at AJ  verbs points are valid but they are also stated at various points in the game

 

Dice changes his thoughts towards Verb as well here. But wants him to dig in.

 

I'm not feeling scum on dice. I thought D1 was pretty much towny Dice. He has followed through what he has said and is following the thread. His vote on Alanna D1 could have been a vote on a wolf mate, it didn't have the feel of it. He put it back on on D2 and this was after AJ had started looking at Alanna, so why would you continue for your wolfmate on Day 2 if you thought they would get lynched. I can't see him doing this. so feels towny.

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long story short i dont think im voting verb at this time. BUT i want you to dig in verb, We got 24 hrs or so

I AM looking at AJ verbs points are valid but they are also stated at various points in the game

Could you explain whatyou mean by this, and also do you understand what Verb meant by AJ sounding too confident?

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@ BFG

 

 

 

Official Vote Count 13:

 

Verb (1/7): Rand

Laine (1/7): Dice

Hally (2/7) Thane, Pralaya

Tayla(1/7) Zander
Rand (5/7) Shad, Tayla, Aj, Hally, Yates

 

Not Voting (3/13):

BFG, Verb, Laine, 

 

 

We know that Alanna was not on any train here. I don't understand why the wolves didn't go for Rand. I think if Alanna had voted I think someone else may have hammered him, but she didn't and I can't work out why. If there was a wolf on there it means it was AJ (I know I'm town), so that leaves AJ. I'm trying to think why Mafia would not want a lynch. No information for the following day. It is more beneficial for wolves than it is for us not having that information. I know it's not me and if not AJ, then that would mean one of Zander, Dice and Thane didn't want to move (if they knew Rand was town) they may not have wanted to get on the lynch. After my ISO, I'm not believing it is dice, so that leaves Zander and Thane. But it still doesn't mean that the Rand's vote didn't have one on, which brings AJ back into the equation.

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i'm more or less around. @ work

 

you asked about Rands lynch not going through D1 if i remember. Honestly, i don't know. The most simple explanation would be that enough townies weren't convinced that Rand was a wolf D1, and the wolves didn't want to jump on a train together. 

 

@dice: i'm not looking for mislynches. I would like to find a wolf today. I really would like to. 

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i'm more or less around. @ work

 

you asked about Rands lynch not going through D1 if i remember. Honestly, i don't know. The most simple explanation would be that enough townies weren't convinced that Rand was a wolf D1, and the wolves didn't want to jump on a train together.

 

@dice: i'm not looking for mislynches. I would like to find a wolf today. I really would like to.

Actually I wanted To know your opinions on Zander and AJ?

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i'm more or less around. @ work

 

you asked about Rands lynch not going through D1 if i remember. Honestly, i don't know. The most simple explanation would be that enough townies weren't convinced that Rand was a wolf D1, and the wolves didn't want to jump on a train together.

 

@dice: i'm not looking for mislynches. I would like to find a wolf today. I really would like to.

Actually I wanted To know your opinions on Zander and AJ?

And yeah, I'm more or less around doing housework :dry:

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Zander & AJ: I was pretty sure that both were town the first half of the game. Well, up untill verb's townflip actually. I'm doubting AJ is town here now, purely on his interaction with Verb. He didn't seem too devastated that Verb was town. I also lack that kind of reaction from Zander to be honest. Zander was quite vocal early game, but i get the impression his posting gets less with the amount of players left. 

 

I consider you clear, BFG. Leaves 4 people, with two wolves. And one could find points against all of them. 

 

The trick is to find the right ones here. 

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I'm guessing mafia have 0 or 1 shots left, I assume 1. If we lynch mafia today we gain a mislynch because of the way night kills work. To win we need 3 consensus town and to lynch mafia out of the remaining 3.

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Zander & AJ: I was pretty sure that both were town the first half of the game. Well, up untill verb's townflip actually. I'm doubting AJ is town here now, purely on his interaction with Verb. He didn't seem too devastated that Verb was town. I also lack that kind of reaction from Zander to be honest. Zander was quite vocal early game, but i get the impression his posting gets less with the amount of players left.

 

I consider you clear, BFG. Leaves 4 people, with two wolves. And one could find points against all of them.

 

The trick is to find the right ones here.

Consider me brain dead having spent all day trying (and failing) to fix navigation errors.

 

Yesterday you were very certain that Zander was town, what changed?

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i'm more or less around. @ work

 

you asked about Rands lynch not going through D1 if i remember. Honestly, i don't know. The most simple explanation would be that enough townies weren't convinced that Rand was a wolf D1, and the wolves didn't want to jump on a train together.

 

@dice: i'm not looking for mislynches. I would like to find a wolf today. I really would like to.

Actually I wanted To know your opinions on Zander and AJ?

And yeah, I'm more or less around doing housework :dry:

 

 

Hate housework, so don't envy this.

 

What are your thoughts on D1 no lynch BFG?

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there was no D1 lynch... town was all over the place and didn't decide on the right person to lynch. Not lynching D1 isn't a bad thing when no obvious wolf is around if you ask me. Saving a mislynch could be helpful later in the game. 

 

And, yeah, we need a wolf today. 

 

as for Zander.. it's more gut than anything else. He should have been louder when a townie is mislynched... especially in this stage of the game. 

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i'm more or less around. @ work

 

you asked about Rands lynch not going through D1 if i remember. Honestly, i don't know. The most simple explanation would be that enough townies weren't convinced that Rand was a wolf D1, and the wolves didn't want to jump on a train together.

 

@dice: i'm not looking for mislynches. I would like to find a wolf today. I really would like to.

Actually I wanted To know your opinions on Zander and AJ?
And yeah, I'm more or less around doing housework :dry:

Hate housework, so don't envy this.

 

What are your thoughts on D1 no lynch BFG?

I'd rather wait till some more people have responded.

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long story short i dont think im voting verb at this time. BUT i want you to dig in verb, We got 24 hrs or so

I AM looking at AJ verbs points are valid but they are also stated at various points in the game


Could you explain whatyou mean by this, and also do you understand what Verb meant by AJ sounding too confident?

 

 

I thought I already did.

 

What Verb calls too confident I call Town Leading.  Ive seen AJ do that as both town and scum and it sets my teeth on edge every time

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