Belichick - Mafia Eternal Night

[Andrej]

Good morning :)

 

Walking Oliver atm but will get back to rereading soon.

 

Still think Verb is #2 and the way to go today.

 

Also way to no NKs. Maybe wolves are spent on bullets?

[Andrej]

Yay*

[seph]

with 7 alive, its 4 to lynch yes?

[BFG]

with 7 alive, its 4 to lynch yes?

Yes

[Andrej]

Okay - Sunday cleaning is finished for the most part.

 

Back to pg 20.

 

Once Verb is out of the picture I have a feeling this game comes down to Talya/Zander.

 

Fortunately for us the lack of a NK gives us ~another lynch unless the wolves have a shot left and didn't take it. Either way, we can to be wrong twice before MYLO at F5 if the wolves don't have a shot left and there are no more vigs.

 

We hit a wolf today we'll be in really good shape moving ahead with 5-1 remaining.

[BFG]

At this moment calculating interest rate on loans - but you don't want to go there, because I keep getting it wrong and it's bugging me, I blame the questions.

 

Seriously, I would like to hear more on Verb, it's getting on my nerves now that he doesn't answer any questions, just goes on about how can we not see him as town etc. I'm not going you or AJ today (well you never), I'll be upset if AJ is wolf. Zander hasn't been around much, so would like to hear thoughts from him too (though I think I can make a safe bet there ).

 

Thane - Would he really miss you claiming doc if Mafia? meh!

 

Dice - Need to re-look at but on the whole I'm thinking he sounds town.

 

So that leaves Verb, he did sound towny when he first came in, but the last day wasn't so good. I would like to hear who thinks is wolf and town for that matter.

 

[v]Verb[/v]

 

What are your thoughts for today

 

I guess break almost over :-(

Lol I dunno, think interest rates much easier than this game atm :/

 

I want to hear a LOT more from Verb before anything else.

 

I'm concerned that Zander hasn't mentioned/reacted to my ISO at all, I kind of backed away after ISOing Laine, but now I'm not so sure.

 

Thane I think could be town here, I don't think mafia disbelieve my claim here, if he tries to cc at mylo/lylo then LOLme?

 

Dice I'm 95% sure is town here. I'm still going to be really sad if you or AJ are mafia.

[BFG]

@AJ Best work on the assumption they have 1 shot left.

[Andrej]

@AJ Best work on the assumption they have 1 shot left.

 

I agree. Mislynch today and things get sort of sticky but I'm pretty confident Verb isn't town here - he's not making a lot of sense and that's a pretty huge indicator imo.

[BFG]

Before I go though:

 

BFG

Dice

 

Zander

Talya

 

Thane

 

Verb

 

There are reasons I want to clear Thane but Laine's handling of him really sketches me out. Like big time. Talya seems pretty on point reading again but with the numbers dwindling I'm not sure I can continue believing her and Zander are v/v forever. I guess I could be misclearing Zander because he's been more "wrong" thus far scum reading BFG and town reading Laine, but I have hard time getting past the genuineness of his tone.

 

Unless Dice is just a ridiculously mean wolfmate I'm going to lock him in completely. He tunneled the crap out of Laine and never let go until she died - if they're wolves together I'm betting Laine was fuming lol. I would be.

 

Verb still a wolf and getting lynched next.

 

Goodnight :)

  

Okay - Sunday cleaning is finished for the most part.

 

Back to pg 20.

 

Once Verb is out of the picture I have a feeling this game comes down to Talya/Zander.

 

Fortunately for us the lack of a NK gives us ~another lynch unless the wolves have a shot left and didn't take it. Either way, we can to be wrong twice before MYLO at F5 if the wolves don't have a shot left and there are no more vigs.

 

We hit a wolf today we'll be in really good shape moving ahead with 5-1 remaining.

What happened to your read on Thane?

[Zander?]

Id need to see a lot from verb to NOT vote him.

 

my gut is worrying on AJ   I cant get past the why not verb first stuff i was bringing up last night

 

this is not the first time you brought this up Dice.  are there any other reasons?

[Zander?]

I don't see (or don't want to see maybe) AJ as mafia, he was first one to pick out a lot of the issues with Laines posts even if the vote came late.

 

Zander has been consistently present but that tunnel :/

 

Thane???

 

Verb, agree he'll have to do something quite special to convince me he's town.

 

i hunt wolves and with Rands flip leads me to believe its Verb and Talya. only 2 places my vote goes today.

[Andrej]

What happened to your read on Thane?

 

Still wavering. Thread says Laine's handling D1 means he could be a partner she needed an excuse not to vote. Gut says he's a villager.

[Andrej]

^^^

 

Still going Verb today nonetheless. It'll buy more time for me to continue reading back with flips in mind - but deep down I think Thane is more likely a villager than not unless he really committed to playing better as a wolf after SW. Really think it comes down to Talya/Zander and if Verb flips wolf today we'll be (maybe) fortunate enough to have room to lynch both just in case.

[Zander?]

hmm.... ok... first things first: i'm really waiting for this night phase to be over.

 

It's very unfortunate that Rand flipped town. And a vig, with an unused shot. Could have used that later on in the game.

 

Dice/laine interaction could have been effective distancing early game. But; i'll let it slide, seeing i'm the only one thinking that for the moment.

 

Suspicions are rising.... i think i've played the most townie game in ages, and still people think i might be a wolf. I strongly doubt that i'll be NK'd, just for the sake of being mislynched one of the coming days ( a scenario which i feel is already slowly being set in motion).

 

we know this:

 

Yates - Deion Sanders, Town 1x vig killed Night 1

Laya - Eli Manning, Town 1x vig killed Night 1

Hallia - Tony Romo, Town vanilla killed Night 1

Rand - Tom Brady, Town 1x vig lynched Day 3

Shad - Russell Wilson, Town vanilla killed Night 2

 

Alannalynn - Roger Goodell, Wolf 1x vig lynched Day 2

 

Leaves this:

 

Thane

BFG

Andrej

Verbal

Talya

Dice

Zander

 

Two wolves, among these players, is basically a nightmare for me. I have no strong wolf read on anybody at the moment, perhaps the nightphase will shed some light here. I'm looking forward to when it ends. 

 

Doc should always self protect in this scenario, can't afford to lose him/her.

 

 

Not the first time you mention DIce as a suspect can you explain.  I've not really seen it tbh.

 

You not believing BFG??!!!

[BFG]

 

 

I don't see (or don't want to see maybe) AJ as mafia, he was first one to pick out a lot of the issues with Laines posts even if the vote came late.

 

Zander has been consistently present but that tunnel :/

 

Thane???

 

Verb, agree he'll have to do something quite special to convince me he's town.

i hunt wolves and with Rands flip leads me to believe its Verb and Talya. only 2 places my vote goes today.

The issue is that once you decided that Talya was mafia you appeared to stop looking elsewhere. You called me mafia but did nothing to challenge me or confirm/change your read in any way, even when I challenged you on it. Everyone else you called villagery (and at some points seemed to shift me to null even if I was always your second read), even though even if you'd been right you know there are 3 people on the team, why weren't you ever looking for a third?

[Zander?]

could be more important next nightphase if town wants to win, so yes, i'm serious

 

Again??? i thought you may have missed it

 

it would be nice if i knew who doc was, but it could be any of you. that's my problem for the moment

 

 

ah, appearantly i missed that.... i saw something like it but discarded it somehow

 

#sundaymorningreadingissues

 

honestly, if a wolf would claim doc right now, and i'd be doc, i wouldn't cc so i wouldn't be targeted.

 

but i have a list of suspects too big and don't trust anybody 

 

Why would you EVER discard a a CLAIM??!!!

 

you implying something here?

 

im not really liking these posts tbh. Please clarify for me pops!!

[Zander?]

 

 

I don't see (or don't want to see maybe) AJ as mafia, he was first one to pick out a lot of the issues with Laines posts even if the vote came late.

 

Zander has been consistently present but that tunnel :/

 

Thane???

 

Verb, agree he'll have to do something quite special to convince me he's town.

i hunt wolves and with Rands flip leads me to believe its Verb and Talya. only 2 places my vote goes today.

The issue is that once you decided that Talya was mafia you appeared to stop looking elsewhere. You called me mafia but did nothing to challenge me or confirm/change your read in any way, even when I challenged you on it. Everyone else you called villagery (and at some points seemed to shift me to null even if I was always your second read), even though even if you'd been right you know there are 3 people on the team, why weren't you ever looking for a third?

 

 

i was but no one stood out atp but i did say i thought the other was in the low posters where verb currently sits. so we will see.

[Zander?]

I try to avoid having a meta.... i hate that. I know, it would help clearing me as town if i always do the sale thing, but clearing people purely due to meta reading them.... i don't like it in general. People should play the game more, not rely on previous experiences.

 

Also, i think i have cut down my D1 fluff and do post more content than anything else for the moment. i'm trying to figure this thing out, but am having a hard time. 

 

OF you're really doc (i'm not buying it fully just yet) then the suspect pool would be smaller.

 

Where's Zander go, for instance? He used to be all over mafia games, but i can't remember recent posts?

Did Talya simply comment because she believes your claim?

Aj has me as second suspect... he should know better....

 

I'm struggling at the moment BFG, and night ending would help some

 

as I stated in thread i was out for the night to watch the UFC PPV

 

Talya's a wolf.

[Zander?]

Okay - Sunday cleaning is finished for the most part.

 

Back to pg 20.

 

Once Verb is out of the picture I have a feeling this game comes down to Talya/Zander.

 

Fortunately for us the lack of a NK gives us ~another lynch unless the wolves have a shot left and didn't take it. Either way, we can to be wrong twice before MYLO at F5 if the wolves don't have a shot left and there are no more vigs.

 

We hit a wolf today we'll be in really good shape moving ahead with 5-1 remaining.

 

only people im willing to vote today as mentioned is verb and talya. 

[Zander?]

in order from town to scum

 

BFG

Dice

AJ

Thane

Verb

Talya

[Zander?]

[v] Verb [/v]

 

Unless we lunch Talya then i'll switch

 

 

VERB IS AT L-1

[BFG]

Dice, Thane it would probably be better to give Verb a chance before voting

[Andrej]

I think Yates and i have more scum games together. I can react realtime in the thread at th moment, but i can't re-read seeing it's rush hour at work. 

 

I don't think i am on point for a wolf at all. It's what you make of it. There's 0% chance i am not town here. 

 

I kinda want to believe this :(

 

[EDITED]

 

I'm unsure what you're saying here, Hally, can you explain better? I read this post from Shad in a more positive manner for Thane, as in he's exceeding expectations after his scum game in SW, yet you're saying that Thane is being scummy from this same post.

 

Also, to Thane on the Dice/me situation: thoughts? You were there when it happened, I just want your thoughts on us from the encounter.

 

Why is Laine questioning Hallia's scum read on Thane here?

 

 

He sees that Thane has a tendency to do that for the first part.

 

I think the difference here is that Shad thinks he's posting about more topics in this game, whereas in my opinion he is already doing that very thing, with regards to continually mentioning only Verb/Pral until I called him out.

 

I see what you mean. Did he really mention Verb/Pral that many times though? I remember calling him out for it the first time and he responded (when he got me and BFG mixed up) but I don't remember seeing it sense. So idk.

 

Again - more defense although she has soft pushed Thane as scummy/null.

 

 

i'm currently trying to re-read. It takes time at work. i've said so before. Ignore that, if you want.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

you're grasping., tunneling... whatever... 

 

I'll be back in a few hours (!) when i have managed to reread while AT WORK

 

Thane I'm pretty sure she was just asking for responses to her recap, which is all on the same page?

 

Shad probably a wolf tho.

 

Sheep me or don't. Not likely to change my vote D1

 

Not seeing it, Andrej, I would need more convincing.

 

See: OMGSUS

 

LOL

 

Laine seems to be playing mediator here. We know Shad/Hallia were town. I don't really see the point of her arguing against points made on villagers but perhaps she was looking to make herself look better?

 

But for reals though:

 

Town: Zander Shad

Townish: Hally Andrej Yates

Mixed/IDK: Talya BFG

Scumish: Dice Thane

 

Null: Verb Pral Rand

 

Quoting for reference.

[Andrej]

Laine playing both sides of the Thane/Hallia argument makes sense if she was looking to stay out of the conflict directly. She's questioning both on their subsequent reads so it could indicate she knew both were wrong early on.

 

Still - really dislike how she's regarding Thane as null/scummy and then questioning other players for scum reading him. Doesn't really add up but that could just be wolfy disconnect on her part.

[Andrej]

 

But for reals though:

 

Town: Zander Shad

Townish: Hally Andrej Yates

Mixed/IDK: Talya BFG

Scumish: Dice Thane

 

Null: Verb Pral Rand

 

Quoting for reference.

 

Notably I haven't seen many significant interactions between Talya/Laine up to this point.