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[Zander?]

 

[v] unvote [/v]

 

[v] csarmi [/v]

You have been dying to do that all game...

 

 

 

Talya again with this...seriously?  Its not like ive made my case against him, he hasnt made himself look bad during his post's today or had him a wolf lean on my reads lists.....

 

You keep barking up the wrong tree.  Ive already pointed this out to you that its not a good look on you but still tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.  but that has run its course and others are seeing it as well i believe.

 

Town!Talya doesnt do this imo

[Zander?]

I'm not even sure what the contradiction would be Zander. That if something is a play it must be pre-planned?

 

most plays in sports are planned out right?  not saying it is for sure just pinged me.

[Darthe]

Town talya might do that...

 

I refer back to my "these people all do things as town that townies shouldn't do" post

[Darthe]

 

 

I'm not even sure what the contradiction would be Zander. That if something is a play it must be pre-planned?

most plays in sports are planned out right? not saying it is for sure just pinged me.

Zander that's bad logic.

[Leelou]

Yates - moving you to town Not letting things go and seems to be trying to #solve the game. 

Talya - You seem to be looking at the game through a townie lense. I've liked your thought process, even if I don't agree with everything you've said. 

 

Zander - I have not read any game you have played in. Right now, I'm having a bit of a hard time separating you out from Darthe. It feels like serious buddying is coming in to play from Darthe, and I'd lean you being town in this scenario. 

 

Maw - I liked the content of his posts, but I can't clear him off of a handful of posts. I like that he jumped right in when he was here. He said he'd be slow through the weekend, giving him til after then to get a read on him. 

Shad - I can't make a judgement on you this early. I'm going to have to rely on flips and how you interact with people through a few phases. 

 

Wombocombo - Not too overly impressed, Wombat is saying a lot, but not really saying much. AJ was very heavy handed with Seph in the beginning and seemed to have a bit of a grudge thing going on. Not really a good look, the grudge reminded me of Des. 

 

Durin - Turin has been kinda meh. I don't really like Darthe's handling of salami this morning. We all know he's very capable of pulling bad moves as town and having meltdowns. Also, it feels as if Darthe has been buddying Zander. Starting to get a scum lean. 

[Leelou]

What happened to my colors? -_- DM -_-

 

Tons of posting, let me go see what Heart said and then I'll post a more comprehensive list. 

[csarmi]

 

 

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[v] csarmi [/v]

You have been dying to do that all game...

 

 

 

Talya again with this...seriously?  Its not like ive made my case against him, he hasnt made himself look bad during his post's today or had him a wolf lean on my reads lists.....

 

You keep barking up the wrong tree.  Ive already pointed this out to you that its not a good look on you but still tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.  but that has run its course and others are seeing it as well i believe.

 

Town!Talya doesnt do this imo

 

 

Bold.

 

Villagers wanna lynch wolves.

Wolves wanna lynch people (villagers) who look bad.

[Zander?]

 

 

I'm not even sure what the contradiction would be Zander. That if something is a play it must be pre-planned?

most plays in sports are planned out right? not saying it is for sure just pinged me.

Zander that's bad logic.

 

 

perhaps it is, perhaps its not.  i just noticed something that stuck out to me and put it out there and everyone can take it fwiw. 

[Leelou]

<snip>

Leelou

—doesn’t like me from the beginning, didn’t like Sooh’s play on my bad play

—notes that csarmi always claims early and she hates it along with his riding it, sees Eldrick as more derptown for the dice vote, doesn’t like the Wombocombo, likes Laine,

—a lot of commentating, a bit of other asking questions, has started looking at others more

Two questions:

Why are you so solidly liking Dice? You’ve restated that you think he’s town and just tunneling a lot, but I don’t see a place where you said why?

For you, what makes seph down in scum pile with me?

<snip>

1. Because he is on his town meta. He has a tendency to tunnel like a bloodhound with a scent as town. I haven't seen him pull that off as scum yet. 

2. He was more trying to prove his townieness and not really #solve the game. His posts have been weird/awkward. I've only played one other game with him and he was scum then and weird. I might be mis-reading him, but the whole cover thing was awkward. Haven't really seen anything from him to show that he is town. 

[Zander?]

Town talya might do that...

 

I refer back to my "these people all do things as town that townies shouldn't do" post

 

i see where your coming from here.

[Talya]

Aj's posts

 

In response to Seph's peek and small list

 

What even is that

 

The vote

[v]Seph[/v]

 

 

Seph I meant your post as a whole.

I'm gonna ride you hard this game. No freebies like last time and I haven't even decided what I think your alignment is yet

 

Bold - But left your vote there and womby even comes in and puts a vote on Seph, without realising AJ had. (see further down)

 

The post with the ref to the previous game

 

 

You were the only one to read me right last game?

You seem determined so at least be gentle please.
If your coming at me this early it's fine by me, but don't go say I'm big game hunting again for coming at you.
I am here to figure this game out, nothing else.

I am determined.

I'm not going to let what should've been a solved game and easy win get stolen from me again.

 

 

 

Aj I won't ever make a hasty vote again, especially without talking first. I promise that

[v]dice [/v] why do you think that aj?

Broken promises already.

You disagree? Tell me why.

 

 

I'll put this here, as the times are in order then.

 

Shad just rekt Seph imo

 

[v]Seph[/v]

 

Explanation, point to note...

 

Interesting reactions regarding myself and Seph. I can see why people might assume I was tunneling, but that really isn't the case. Me saying I'm not going to be easy on him is nothing more than me being straight forward, not looking for an excuse. I didn't like his OP. I stated as much and voted him. Afterwards I told him he wouldn't get a pass. Someone (Sili?) mentioned Seph being amiable towards me isn't a good look and I agree. Some of you are making the thought that I could be a wolf pushing Seph for bad reasons, but at any point did it seem Seph had this thought initially?

 

Reads DArthe as Villagery, Doen't think Dice's actons as wolfy

 

Then Doesn't post anything for two days.

 

Damn..gtg

[Darthe]

 

 

 

I'm not even sure what the contradiction would be Zander. That if something is a play it must be pre-planned?

most plays in sports are planned out right? not saying it is for sure just pinged me.

Zander that's bad logic.

 

 

perhaps it is, perhaps its not.  i just noticed something that stuck out to me and put it out there and everyone can take it fwiw. 

 

fair

[Zander?]

 

 

 

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[v] csarmi [/v]

You have been dying to do that all game...

 

 

 

Talya again with this...seriously?  Its not like ive made my case against him, he hasnt made himself look bad during his post's today or had him a wolf lean on my reads lists.....

 

You keep barking up the wrong tree.  Ive already pointed this out to you that its not a good look on you but still tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.  but that has run its course and others are seeing it as well i believe.

 

Town!Talya doesnt do this imo

 

 

Bold.

 

Villagers wanna lynch wolves.

Wolves wanna lynch people (villagers) who look bad.

 

 

 

so by this logic wouldnt wolves just try to play bad so their not lynched....lol.

 

your people who are voting me cause im playing poorly must be a wolf defense isnt washing with me,

 

if im not getting what your explaining please let me know

[Darthe]

 

Yates - moving you to town Not letting things go and seems to be trying to #solve the game. 

Talya - You seem to be looking at the game through a townie lense. I've liked your thought process, even if I don't agree with everything you've said. 

 

Zander - I have not read any game you have played in. Right now, I'm having a bit of a hard time separating you out from Darthe. It feels like serious buddying is coming in to play from Darthe, and I'd lean you being town in this scenario. 

 

Maw - I liked the content of his posts, but I can't clear him off of a handful of posts. I like that he jumped right in when he was here. He said he'd be slow through the weekend, giving him til after then to get a read on him. 

Shad - I can't make a judgement on you this early. I'm going to have to rely on flips and how you interact with people through a few phases. 

 

Wombocombo - Not too overly impressed, Wombat is saying a lot, but not really saying much. AJ was very heavy handed with Seph in the beginning and seemed to have a bit of a grudge thing going on. Not really a good look, the grudge reminded me of Des. 

 

Durin - Turin has been kinda meh. I don't really like Darthe's handling of salami this morning. We all know he's very capable of pulling bad moves as town and having meltdowns. Also, it feels as if Darthe has been buddying Zander. Starting to get a scum lean. 

 

I find four things suspect about this post.  

 

Maw, Talya and Yates made it into a reads list over many far more inolved candidates.

Zander has literally followed me all game, to the point that we have joked about it and yet she accuses me of buddying and attaching myself to him as opposed to it being the other way around.

She acknowledges Salami in her read of me and yet doesn't provide a read of him which is the definition of leading.

It comes at a point that clearly shows interest and cognizance of the thread but she isn't interacting.  

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

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[v] csarmi [/v]

You have been dying to do that all game...

 

 

 

Talya again with this...seriously?  Its not like ive made my case against him, he hasnt made himself look bad during his post's today or had him a wolf lean on my reads lists.....

 

You keep barking up the wrong tree.  Ive already pointed this out to you that its not a good look on you but still tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.  but that has run its course and others are seeing it as well i believe.

 

Town!Talya doesnt do this imo

 

 

Bold.

 

Villagers wanna lynch wolves.

Wolves wanna lynch people (villagers) who look bad.

 

 

 

so by this logic wouldnt wolves just try to play bad so their not lynched....lol.

 

your people who are voting me cause im playing poorly must be a wolf defense isnt washing with me,

 

if im not getting what your explaining please let me know

 

You lost me on this.  I think you mean wouldn't wolves play good so they're not lynched?  The answer is yes.  

 

Or maybe you meant wouldn't they play bad so they have a plausible reason to not get NK'd.  The answer is yes to an extent.

[csarmi]

Zander my point is that you are not interested in lynching wolves. You are interested in lynching people who "look bad". You wanna find mislynches, but you need justification so you're looking for one.

[Sooh]

**snip**

ALSO

I am going to be MORE active next week. Will be here. Lots of free time in the afternoons and some of my late evenings will probably also be open.

 

Oh and I think it was Zander who asked me what I was last game where I also started out inactive—I was town and that was largely a part of why I was mislynched.

 

 

Need to head to work now. Will be getting off of work a bit before deadline so I will try to pop in before it hits.

Blue: Thank you. That's what I wanted to hear. Also, Talya...

 

Having ISO'd Sooh, before this I like Sooh's posts, she seems more engaged that her last wolf game, and saying what she thinks more. Question in bolded blue below.

 

I didn't like this post (the bolded Green)

 

I'm kinda setting aside Dice/Durin at the moment. I don't think that'll be resolved today anyway, plus they might both be town.

 

Zander is basically always polite. It's rare to see anything else out of him. Also he is the guy who wants everyone to be happy, so I'm not surprised his posts read like that, Talya. He would be careful not to hurt anyone's feelings.  1. I can see him being poilite, it's a little more than that, have you seen him as Wolf? What was his game like then in your opinion?

 

*snip*

 

Re Heart - I think her post coming in and clearly skimming and giving her thoughts is fine. What I didn't like, which may or may not have been a typo since it made little sense, was that she said she'd barely be here next week as well. At this point, even if she is town, how does it benefit town to keep her around? If she doesn't have the chance to make proper reads and ideas she's basically just , excuse the expression, dead weight. If she is scum and we take her out, then great. If she is town and we take her out, then at least she won't make bad decisions at must lynch because she hasn't been able to follow the thread and ask her questions. However, I do see the point that her flip may not tell us much. 

 

That's how I see it anyway. 

 

At this point in the game I'm just waiting for a flip to inform my reads further. I feel a little like I'm banging my head against the wall, and I think a lot of people do. 

 

So you would be quite happy to lynch AH?

 

 

At some point somebody is going to have to explain these references to Mynd and other players I haven't played with before...

 

@ Sooh - thanks for the boy on Zander, I was going to check the other threads to see what he was like. He is s prolific payer here so that's why it might stand out.

 

@ Sooh again - I don't like the idea of just lunching someone just because you just don't want someone that may oray mot be around. This isn't smells wolfie to me. There was a feel of wanting an easy lynch on someone.

 

@ Alanna - I'm also a bit suspicious of AJ disappearing, I didn't like how tunnelling he was on Seph, I need to go over Womby's post tonight. Because he is coming across better

I'm not saying that Zander would not do this as a wolf. I think he probably would show the same level of politeness, so if you note something different about it it's probably worth looking into, but I'm not seeing it as of now. 

 

As for Heart I'm not actively pushing her lynch, just saying I'm concerned if she doesn't become more active. 

 

I know you are not at least not directly, but you looked like you would be quiet happy to jump on her train if required. What do you think of Hearts list and vote on Dice?

No, not anymore. From her previous list it looked as though she was pretty much saying she was going to be inactive throughout, and I didn't like that. In the case of inactives I guess the mod would step in. I'm just worried that a slanking villager would  lose the game for us. Now that she says she'll be here more I'm happy to let her show me if she is town or not by her posting. 

 

Her list reads kind of rushed, like she said it would be. It's a lot of commentary on what has been going on and a few thoughts regarding what it might mean. I don't hate her vote on Dice, but I don't think I'll follow her on it today. 

[Leelou]

Townie leans
Salami - claimed Jar Jar - hated 

Dice
Sili
Laine

Yates
Talya
Eldrick

Sooh

NotBob
ThaneBalls32

Zander

 
Null
Shad
Maw

 
Scummy leans

Aiel <3

Wombocombo

Durin 

Seph

 

I am going to [unvote] for now. I feel slightly better about Heart, not thrilled with her vote though and a few of her reasonings. I want to mull over my scum leans before voting again. 

[csarmi]

"Hmm finally Salami has made himself look bad enough that I can vote him. Yay. "

[Leelou]

 

 

Yates - moving you to town Not letting things go and seems to be trying to #solve the game. 

Talya - You seem to be looking at the game through a townie lense. I've liked your thought process, even if I don't agree with everything you've said. 

 

Zander - I have not read any game you have played in. Right now, I'm having a bit of a hard time separating you out from Darthe. It feels like serious buddying is coming in to play from Darthe, and I'd lean you being town in this scenario. 

 

Maw - I liked the content of his posts, but I can't clear him off of a handful of posts. I like that he jumped right in when he was here. He said he'd be slow through the weekend, giving him til after then to get a read on him. 

Shad - I can't make a judgement on you this early. I'm going to have to rely on flips and how you interact with people through a few phases. 

 

Wombocombo - Not too overly impressed, Wombat is saying a lot, but not really saying much. AJ was very heavy handed with Seph in the beginning and seemed to have a bit of a grudge thing going on. Not really a good look, the grudge reminded me of Des. 

 

Durin - Turin has been kinda meh. I don't really like Darthe's handling of salami this morning. We all know he's very capable of pulling bad moves as town and having meltdowns. Also, it feels as if Darthe has been buddying Zander. Starting to get a scum lean. 

 

I find four things suspect about this post.  

 

Maw, Talya and Yates made it into a reads list over many far more inolved candidates.

Zander has literally followed me all game, to the point that we have joked about it and yet she accuses me of buddying and attaching myself to him as opposed to it being the other way around.

She acknowledges Salami in her read of me and yet doesn't provide a read of him which is the definition of leading.

It comes at a point that clearly shows interest and cognizance of the thread but she isn't interacting.  

 

 

That was my null list I said I'd ISO today. 

[Zander?]

@ Leelou and Darthe about the buddying part

 

Me and Darthe have BOTH made points that have agreed with the others points.  Were also the most active posters which would lean to us having the most interaction right?

[csarmi]

You need an inner justifictaion for your vote so that you can convince yourself you can vote me (that's what I think Talya was getting at too btw).

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

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[v] csarmi [/v]

You have been dying to do that all game...

 

 

 

Talya again with this...seriously?  Its not like ive made my case against him, he hasnt made himself look bad during his post's today or had him a wolf lean on my reads lists.....

 

You keep barking up the wrong tree.  Ive already pointed this out to you that its not a good look on you but still tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.  but that has run its course and others are seeing it as well i believe.

 

Town!Talya doesnt do this imo

 

 

Bold.

 

Villagers wanna lynch wolves.

Wolves wanna lynch people (villagers) who look bad.

 

 

 

so by this logic wouldnt wolves just try to play bad so their not lynched....lol.

 

your people who are voting me cause im playing poorly must be a wolf defense isnt washing with me,

 

if im not getting what your explaining please let me know

 

You lost me on this.  I think you mean wouldn't wolves play good so they're not lynched?  The answer is yes.  

 

Or maybe you meant wouldn't they play bad so they have a plausible reason to not get NK'd.  The answer is yes to an extent.

 

 

yes.

[Darthe]

Salami you're being annoying and redundant.  That doesn't reinforce your point it makes you look like a bumbling and unreliable townie at best and a wolf trying to be loud enough to create a mislynch at worst.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Yates - moving you to town Not letting things go and seems to be trying to #solve the game. 

Talya - You seem to be looking at the game through a townie lense. I've liked your thought process, even if I don't agree with everything you've said. 

 

Zander - I have not read any game you have played in. Right now, I'm having a bit of a hard time separating you out from Darthe. It feels like serious buddying is coming in to play from Darthe, and I'd lean you being town in this scenario. 

 

Maw - I liked the content of his posts, but I can't clear him off of a handful of posts. I like that he jumped right in when he was here. He said he'd be slow through the weekend, giving him til after then to get a read on him. 

Shad - I can't make a judgement on you this early. I'm going to have to rely on flips and how you interact with people through a few phases. 

 

Wombocombo - Not too overly impressed, Wombat is saying a lot, but not really saying much. AJ was very heavy handed with Seph in the beginning and seemed to have a bit of a grudge thing going on. Not really a good look, the grudge reminded me of Des. 

 

Durin - Turin has been kinda meh. I don't really like Darthe's handling of salami this morning. We all know he's very capable of pulling bad moves as town and having meltdowns. Also, it feels as if Darthe has been buddying Zander. Starting to get a scum lean. 

 

I find four things suspect about this post.  

 

Maw, Talya and Yates made it into a reads list over many far more inolved candidates.

Zander has literally followed me all game, to the point that we have joked about it and yet she accuses me of buddying and attaching myself to him as opposed to it being the other way around.

She acknowledges Salami in her read of me and yet doesn't provide a read of him which is the definition of leading.

It comes at a point that clearly shows interest and cognizance of the thread but she isn't interacting.  

 

 

That was my null list I said I'd ISO today. 

 

Ohhhh okay, I subtract point one then.  What about the other three?  BTW your reads list sucks enough to disregard.