[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

Yates · June 25, 2015

We should lynch Sooh, vig Heart and cop Yates. Pretty much covers our bases and if game isn't over on D4 then we will either have Yates cleared or damned and can go from there.

I'm okay with this, ftr.

alannalynn · June 25, 2015

"flow of weirdness" from the weird one. :tongue:

I have both on my WTL anyways so we'll have to see what the others think

Zander? · June 25, 2015

I think I'm gonna follow you guys' lead on them actually unless my reread comes up with something useful. Not sure I gonna finish it by this evening though (sorry about that )

then put down a vote. you already missed the last one. you gotta play a hand sometime homie.

alannalynn · June 25, 2015

Hello Yates! I never get to be online same time as you, so this is odd

csarmi · June 25, 2015

I think I'm gonna follow you guys' lead on them actually unless my reread comes up with something useful. Not sure I gonna finish it by this evening though (sorry about that )

then put down a vote. you already missed the last one. you gotta play a hand sometime homie.

[v]Eldrick[/v]

there ya go

/laters

Talya · June 25, 2015

*snip most of this post*

/snip

@ Alanna - Funny how words can be, you saying Me and Eld "jumped" on Yates train, I believe at one point you also "jumped" on that train.

1. But why did you go after Yates as opposed to Verbane when I was pushing him more than Yates? I know you had made a case the night before, which is whatever, but I was pushing Thaneballs, Yates, and Talya, with an emphasis on Thaneballs. I'm just wondering why Yates over Thaneballs. Here's your post when you came in (defensive?):

I did an ISO on Yates yesterday. From my perspective he seems to be buddying me. Not only thinking I'm doing townie posts when no on else is but agreeing with who I think maybe wolf at the time.

I'm still not sure on Sooh, I'm not seeing what some of you are seeing as her cleared. I have t looked at Thaneballs, but will later.

Didn't see a problem with what Dice said. They do have a fake claim now in at least a character and maybe even a role. I'm disappointed that is all he had to say.

Alanna..part of your reason for thinking me wolf is because I thought Zander was and you think him town...so by the same reasoning I KNOW am town so does that make you wolf?

Pressure me all you like I'm waiting.

[v]Yates[/v] at present

2. Also, why does it matter that I added myself to Yates' train for a bit? Who cares, I'm cleared, I lynched mafia. Woopdee freaking doo

1. I was looking at Sooh, Yates, Thaneballs32 way before you came on that morning. I had only time to look at Yates and didn't like what I had seen. So I voted. We had plenty of time (well over a day, maybe even more). Put a vote on to pressure and also look at the others. Thaneballs had already been mentioned by others so you may have started the train it was only your push after he claimed that got him lynched. Otherwise he may not have been lynched. But when you read below, you will see why even that does not clear you 100% on it's own.

Don't think that we should follow everything you say. I want to look for myself on things before I decide, especially when I have time. Your wording was suggestive, so I was throwing it back your way.

2. I was going to say this, and to Zander over something Eld said. I will NEVER assume that because people are on a lynch they are town, or even start one. I was in a game where someone, on day 1, got one of their team lynched. (yes they instigated it with her team member..a great to and fro ensued, 1 wolf lynched) throughout the rest of the game, that person slowly went through their teammates, either pushing them or going on their lynches early...they went to the end of the day and won the game for the wolves. I haven't seen it done in a while, it was the first that had ever been done here. It was Kivam who said about doing this on the day 1 hence the Kivam Gambit, however I was the person who took it to the end. Not only that I had a conversation with Verb after one of the other games saying how he would love to do that whole thing. Obviously didn't get the chance here for himself, but doesn't mean he wasn't behind hi other team mates to do it. DON'T ever assume that pushing a lynch makes you town. Up until then, I had you town because of your play, you haven't done much since (your words).

Same goes for Zander, stop saying you are Lock clear, if you are town, you are only Lock clear in your mind unless you have been viewed and the cop will have you lock clear, don't assume to everyone else you are. You may not be wolf, but it does makes you look arrogant.

I'm sure now, I will be accused of trying to say I think you are mafia, Zander did after I questioned you before.

Yates · June 25, 2015

I miss Darthe.

Yates · June 25, 2015

Hello Yates! I never get to be online same time as you, so this is odd

^5

I'm catching up now... Let me know if you need me to cover anything.

Also, I'm thinking about changing my sig to my mafia open for business hours. Thoughts?

Talya · June 25, 2015

You guys call it bowing under pressure. I see it as realizing I'm wrong. Why would I continue down a path that isn't the right one?

I'm just gonna come out and say it now.

I've been mulling over revealing anyway.

HARD CLAIM

Luke Skywalker, Vanilla Town

(I told Hally being vanilla as Luke was lame. :P)

I'm doing my best to be town. I like to think I'm improving. I speak my mind. Sometimes I don't know when to not say stuff (as in the attempt to rez Durin)

I would like to get through this game with 0 mislynches. Please look elsewhere.

[v] Eldrick [/v]

0 NEED FOR THIS CLAIM. i think he realizes he slipped up and is trying to go into damage control imo.

That has to be the dumbest claim ever. If it's real it sucks.

If he is wolf, would that be a good claim or would you keep quiet, I don't know Eld enough.

Zander? · June 25, 2015

*snip most of this post*

/snip

@ Alanna - Funny how words can be, you saying Me and Eld "jumped" on Yates train, I believe at one point you also "jumped" on that train.

1. But why did you go after Yates as opposed to Verbane when I was pushing him more than Yates? I know you had made a case the night before, which is whatever, but I was pushing Thaneballs, Yates, and Talya, with an emphasis on Thaneballs. I'm just wondering why Yates over Thaneballs. Here's your post when you came in (defensive?):

I did an ISO on Yates yesterday. From my perspective he seems to be buddying me. Not only thinking I'm doing townie posts when no on else is but agreeing with who I think maybe wolf at the time.

I'm still not sure on Sooh, I'm not seeing what some of you are seeing as her cleared. I have t looked at Thaneballs, but will later.

Didn't see a problem with what Dice said. They do have a fake claim now in at least a character and maybe even a role. I'm disappointed that is all he had to say.

Alanna..part of your reason for thinking me wolf is because I thought Zander was and you think him town...so by the same reasoning I KNOW am town so does that make you wolf?

Pressure me all you like I'm waiting.

[v]Yates[/v] at present

2. Also, why does it matter that I added myself to Yates' train for a bit? Who cares, I'm cleared, I lynched mafia. Woopdee freaking doo

1. I was looking at Sooh, Yates, Thaneballs32 way before you came on that morning. I had only time to look at Yates and didn't like what I had seen. So I voted. We had plenty of time (well over a day, maybe even more). Put a vote on to pressure and also look at the others. Thaneballs had already been mentioned by others so you may have started the train it was only your push after he claimed that got him lynched. Otherwise he may not have been lynched. But when you read below, you will see why even that does not clear you 100% on it's own.

Don't think that we should follow everything you say. I want to look for myself on things before I decide, especially when I have time. Your wording was suggestive, so I was throwing it back your way.

2. I was going to say this, and to Zander over something Eld said. I will NEVER assume that because people are on a lynch they are town, or even start one. I was in a game where someone, on day 1, got one of their team lynched. (yes they instigated it with her team member..a great to and fro ensued, 1 wolf lynched) throughout the rest of the game, that person slowly went through their teammates, either pushing them or going on their lynches early...they went to the end of the day and won the game for the wolves. I haven't seen it done in a while, it was the first that had ever been done here. It was Kivam who said about doing this on the day 1 hence the Kivam Gambit, however I was the person who took it to the end. Not only that I had a conversation with Verb after one of the other games saying how he would love to do that whole thing. Obviously didn't get the chance here for himself, but doesn't mean he wasn't behind hi other team mates to do it. DON'T ever assume that pushing a lynch makes you town. Up until then, I had you town because of your play, you haven't done much since (your words).

Same goes for Zander, stop saying you are Lock clear, if you are town, you are only Lock clear in your mind unless you have been viewed and the cop will have you lock clear, don't assume to everyone else you are. You may not be wolf, but it does makes you look arrogant.

I'm sure now, I will be accused of trying to say I think you are mafia, Zander did after I questioned you before.

3 things"

1.) Your Mafia....lolololol

2.) Me and Laine are lock clear

3.) I can see where your trying to come from I just dont agree.

Zander? · June 25, 2015

You guys call it bowing under pressure. I see it as realizing I'm wrong. Why would I continue down a path that isn't the right one?

I'm just gonna come out and say it now.

I've been mulling over revealing anyway.

HARD CLAIM

Luke Skywalker, Vanilla Town

(I told Hally being vanilla as Luke was lame. :P)

I'm doing my best to be town. I like to think I'm improving. I speak my mind. Sometimes I don't know when to not say stuff (as in the attempt to rez Durin)

I would like to get through this game with 0 mislynches. Please look elsewhere.

[v] Eldrick [/v]

0 NEED FOR THIS CLAIM. i think he realizes he slipped up and is trying to go into damage control imo.

That has to be the dumbest claim ever. If it's real it sucks.

If he is wolf, would that be a good claim or would you keep quiet, I don't know Eld enough.

Agreed

No meta on Eld. I don't see how/why as town you would do this fwiw.

alannalynn · June 25, 2015

I had a snarky comment and I withheld it. I need a gold star.

Talya, I just wanted you to clear that up for me, though so thanks. I literally had nothing against Yates but his activity at that point and hadn't seen your case the first time. I'm not the best mafia player and do have crappy reads sometimes. But when I say that I'm clear and Dice is clear and Zander is basically clear, I mean it. And I trust them enough that I'm taking their reads into account as well, that is how I'm building my network of towns right now, mainly because I can't be trusted to think for myself. lol

I think me pushing the Verbal/Thane lynch was more "forcing" the Verbal/Thane lynch; there was no way that was going to fail, I was going to have my way. :rolleyes:

Yates I'll definitely be wanting your thoughts on Eldrick, but that'll be obvious

Is Eldricks claim too bad to be town or too bad to be wolf?

Talya · June 25, 2015

*snip most of this post*

/snip

@ Alanna - Funny how words can be, you saying Me and Eld "jumped" on Yates train, I believe at one point you also "jumped" on that train.

1. But why did you go after Yates as opposed to Verbane when I was pushing him more than Yates? I know you had made a case the night before, which is whatever, but I was pushing Thaneballs, Yates, and Talya, with an emphasis on Thaneballs. I'm just wondering why Yates over Thaneballs. Here's your post when you came in (defensive?):

I did an ISO on Yates yesterday. From my perspective he seems to be buddying me. Not only thinking I'm doing townie posts when no on else is but agreeing with who I think maybe wolf at the time.

I'm still not sure on Sooh, I'm not seeing what some of you are seeing as her cleared. I have t looked at Thaneballs, but will later.

Didn't see a problem with what Dice said. They do have a fake claim now in at least a character and maybe even a role. I'm disappointed that is all he had to say.

Alanna..part of your reason for thinking me wolf is because I thought Zander was and you think him town...so by the same reasoning I KNOW am town so does that make you wolf?

Pressure me all you like I'm waiting.

[v]Yates[/v] at present

2. Also, why does it matter that I added myself to Yates' train for a bit? Who cares, I'm cleared, I lynched mafia. Woopdee freaking doo

1. I was looking at Sooh, Yates, Thaneballs32 way before you came on that morning. I had only time to look at Yates and didn't like what I had seen. So I voted. We had plenty of time (well over a day, maybe even more). Put a vote on to pressure and also look at the others. Thaneballs had already been mentioned by others so you may have started the train it was only your push after he claimed that got him lynched. Otherwise he may not have been lynched. But when you read below, you will see why even that does not clear you 100% on it's own.

Don't think that we should follow everything you say. I want to look for myself on things before I decide, especially when I have time. Your wording was suggestive, so I was throwing it back your way.

2. I was going to say this, and to Zander over something Eld said. I will NEVER assume that because people are on a lynch they are town, or even start one. I was in a game where someone, on day 1, got one of their team lynched. (yes they instigated it with her team member..a great to and fro ensued, 1 wolf lynched) throughout the rest of the game, that person slowly went through their teammates, either pushing them or going on their lynches early...they went to the end of the day and won the game for the wolves. I haven't seen it done in a while, it was the first that had ever been done here. It was Kivam who said about doing this on the day 1 hence the Kivam Gambit, however I was the person who took it to the end. Not only that I had a conversation with Verb after one of the other games saying how he would love to do that whole thing. Obviously didn't get the chance here for himself, but doesn't mean he wasn't behind hi other team mates to do it. DON'T ever assume that pushing a lynch makes you town. Up until then, I had you town because of your play, you haven't done much since (your words).

Same goes for Zander, stop saying you are Lock clear, if you are town, you are only Lock clear in your mind unless you have been viewed and the cop will have you lock clear, don't assume to everyone else you are. You may not be wolf, but it does makes you look arrogant.

I'm sure now, I will be accused of trying to say I think you are mafia, Zander did after I questioned you before.

3 things"

1.) Your Mafia....lolololol

2.) Me and Laine are lock clear

3.) I can see where your trying to come from I just dont agree.

1. No wrong again

2. This DOES NOT make you lock clear

3. Don't care whether you agree, you can see my point of view. I'm saying it so that people don't think that something like pushing a lynch automatically makes them clear, it helps, other actions add to that, but this on it's own...NO :p

Zander? · June 25, 2015

Talya is seems you getting a little defensive. I was joking about the Maf part im obv not ruling it out but it was a joke hence the lolololol

even your point on team mates voting and starting trains on themselves....seriously the GF first and then the RB?

In what world does that make ANY sense. maybe like nobodies with unimportant roles...maybe. but come on. thats just silly talk!

:smile:

Talya · June 25, 2015

I had a snarky comment and I withheld it. I need a gold star.

Talya, I just wanted you to clear that up for me, though so thanks. I literally had nothing against Yates but his activity at that point and hadn't seen your case the first time. I'm not the best mafia player and do have crappy reads sometimes. But when I say that I'm clear and Dice is clear and Zander is basically clear, I mean it. And I trust them enough that I'm taking their reads into account as well, that is how I'm building my network of towns right now, mainly because I can't be trusted to think for myself. lol

I think me pushing the Verbal/Thane lynch was more "forcing" the Verbal/Thane lynch; there was no way that was going to fail, I was going to have my way.

Yates I'll definitely be wanting your thoughts on Eldrick, but that'll be obvious

Is Eldricks claim too bad to be town or too bad to be wolf?

I've had a few snarky comments I've withheld...do I get two gold stars.. :p

Just pointing out, it is always in the back of my mind. I hope you are right about Zander.

I agree with whoever, I don't think that automatically makes Eld wolf.

There was someone who said (after Leelou claim) that they thought Luke and Han would be in game. Sili, rings a bell. But I could be wrong there. Need to check.

alannalynn · June 25, 2015

Talya wants to challenge me to a snark contest. I'll whoop you! haha

I am right about Zander; as far as I know, he's never been mafia. And I think it would obviously show in how he plays, and I just can't see it. Therefore, town.

Eldrick has more going against him than just that claim and his odd slip about Darthe

鲍勃不是我的名字 · June 25, 2015

I don't understand the resurrect attempt. Some weird talk too.

Claim doesn't make him a wolf though.

I wanted Durin back. It was worth a shot.

and what did you do? message the mod to revive them? How do you do that without a role?

The same way actions are traditionally done. Through my role pm.

I'd quote it, but that's against the rules.

thought you were vanilla?

Yates · June 25, 2015

HARD CLAIM

Luke Skywalker, Vanilla Town

(I told Hally being vanilla as Luke was lame. :P)

I'm doing my best to be town. I like to think I'm improving. I speak my mind. Sometimes I don't know when to not say stuff (as in the attempt to rez Durin)

I IRL laughed out loud!

Thank you for this. Ha!

Yates · June 25, 2015

Wait. So you're telling me that Leelou claimed Leia, vanilla; and now you're claiming Luke, vanilla? How does this clear you?

Still laughing...

I had this theory that Leia would be the best mod provided fake claim since that's the one the GF used. I don't like being wrong about that stuff.

alannalynn · June 25, 2015

Yates don't die on me okay

Zander? · June 25, 2015

HARD CLAIM

Luke Skywalker, Vanilla Town

(I told Hally being vanilla as Luke was lame. :P)

I'm doing my best to be town. I like to think I'm improving. I speak my mind. Sometimes I don't know when to not say stuff (as in the attempt to rez Durin)

I IRL laughed out loud!

Thank you for this. Ha!

Yates GOAT....lolololol

Talya · June 25, 2015

Talya is seems you getting a little defensive. I was joking about the Maf part im obv not ruling it out but it was a joke hence the lolololol

even your point on team mates voting and starting trains on themselves....seriously the GF first and then the RB?

In what world does that make ANY sense. maybe like nobodies with unimportant roles...maybe. but come on. thats just silly talk!

Made no difference in the game I was in (roles that is), can't even remember the roles, lol. So long ago. It could have been a decision made due to the suddenness of the time, maybe Heart is wolf and she was the original scape goat and things changed and they had to adapt. (you could go one forever) You missed my point if you think that is what I think happened. lol.

Just don't write things off until the end. I'm not accusing you or Alanna at all, it was a note that people should think about. Verb is a good player, so is Leelou, so don't write anything off.

Sorry Zander, ones of those and I haven't stopped, didn't see the lolololo bit.

shouldn't let the "I'm lock clear" get to me, but three days pushing off headaches and migraines does not help my mood...

/rant

Zander? · June 25, 2015

I don't understand the resurrect attempt. Some weird talk too.

Claim doesn't make him a wolf though.

I wanted Durin back. It was worth a shot.

and what did you do? message the mod to revive them? How do you do that without a role?

The same way actions are traditionally done. Through my role pm.

I'd quote it, but that's against the rules.

thought you were vanilla?

this ^^^^^^^^

Talya · June 25, 2015

Talya wants to challenge me to a snark contest. I'll whoop you! haha

I am right about Zander; as far as I know, he's never been mafia. And I think it would obviously show in how he plays, and I just can't see it. Therefore, town.

Eldrick has more going against him than just that claim and his odd slip about Darthe

Could this be an annual comp on the main boards with awards?...haha, I doubt it. I would give you a damn good run!

I saw that, I'm assuming that was why he claimed.

alannalynn · June 25, 2015

Okay, so here's the deal.

Leelou claimed Leia, vanilla.

Eldrick claims Luke, vanilla.

Yet he says he had some resurrect ability

That's not vanilla

and Leelou was mafia

So.. ?

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