[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Eldrick4221]

Notbob, reads list please.

[Andrej]

AJ, will we need to direct this personally?

 

Maybe have to.

 

Town did a pretty good job with the first two lynches but with Seph gone until D4 and Shad dead it seems like the momentum is stalling.

[Andrej]

 

re #4711 Wombat pressuring Eldrick still willing to lynch Sooh but voting Wombat--maybe I'm just not following what you're saying there correctly, but if there are two mafia left (circa my last response) and he thinks ONE of them is between me and the two of you, then why shouldn't he still be looking at Sooh? You can change your mind on who is the better option...

 

This. Exactly this. I'm actually contemplating moving my vote back. I want to clear up who is scum on Leelou's list. I just can't believe that all 6 of her non-town reads aren't scum.

 

But I don't see myself getting the support for a Wombo lynch, so I dunno.

 

This is bad because you're basing the read on someone who is confirmed to have motivation in lying and misleading.

 

But if you're going to persist, the wolf isn't us.

[Eldrick4221]

 

AJ, will we need to direct this personally?

 

Maybe have to.

 

Town did a pretty good job with the first two lynches but with Seph gone until D4 and Shad dead it seems like the momentum is stalling.

 

Hey I'm trying. I'm just not very good.

 

And my case on you guys is falling apart in my head.

 

I don't trust you. I don't think I will for quite some time. But that's not a reason to think you're scum. I followed you when you were town. I followed you when you were scum. I wasn't able to tell the difference. I haven't learned how to read Wombat either. The only thing I have going for me is I think it's either you or Heart. I still want to get this sorted out, but I can't do it on my own.

 

[unvote]

[v]Sooh[/v]

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

re #4711 Wombat pressuring Eldrick still willing to lynch Sooh but voting Wombat--maybe I'm just not following what you're saying there correctly, but if there are two mafia left (circa my last response) and he thinks ONE of them is between me and the two of you, then why shouldn't he still be looking at Sooh? You can change your mind on who is the better option...

 

This. Exactly this. I'm actually contemplating moving my vote back. I want to clear up who is scum on Leelou's list. I just can't believe that all 6 of her non-town reads aren't scum.

 

But I don't see myself getting the support for a Wombo lynch, so I dunno.

 

This is bad because you're basing the read on someone who is confirmed to have motivation in lying and misleading.

 

But if you're going to persist, the wolf isn't us.

 

I'm not basing it on that. I had the idea before it was supported by them.

 

In the past, when I have been scum, I didn't talk to my teammates about how they build their lists, and they didn't talk to me about mine. All I have to go on is how I did it myself, and the general idea that it's a common practice to split them. I expect everyone to do it, and will continue to do so until it isn't normally done. Yes, this will eventually screw me over, but until that point, it's a viable reason. 

[Eldrick4221]

IYO who are the wolves, AJ?

[Eldrick4221]

I am fully aware of the fact that this game could be the game where it's different. Verb and Leelou working together gives me the heebie jeebies.

[alannalynn]

I'm at lunch break.

 

Heart,'I see what you mean. I kinda wanted to give it a break for a day, and that works because I'm flipping exhausted from all this overtime. I was looking at top town/scum lists last night and passed out at my computer. I woke up barely in time for work. I'll let you know later i suppose.

 

I'm town, dice is town. I believe wombrej and Yates are town. They believe in csarmi. I'm 95% sure Zander is town. None of these ppl will be lynched today. The first two, never.

 

I'm good with a sooh lynch, but I have a nagging feeling that she's town. I know my reads aren't perfect but whatever.

 

Eldrick and Talya are for later.

[Eldrick4221]

Ya. Reread isn't happening. I have the time to do so, but I'm not retaining anything. If I didn't notice it in the first read, I'm not going to now.

 

I've read pretty much everything once though. I'm gonna go touch base with N1. I know there was a gasp there somewhere.

[Eldrick4221]

Laine, why is dice town? That's the slot i'm mulling over right now. Trying to work my way through his ISO.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Sooh/Heart/Yates is okay with me.

 

I'd prefer Yates to be town because I hate being opposite alignments but even now I'm not overly blown away by anything he's said or done.

 

We should lynch Sooh, vig Heart and cop Yates. Pretty much covers our bases and if game isn't over on D4 then we will either have Yates cleared or damned and can go from there.

 

I'm not going to even entertain the tinfoil ideas or Eldrick's case for us being scum. Our vote came one minute after Seph's iirc which is literally a matter of refreshing the page or not.

 

You guys are seriously making his harder than it has to be. Stop the BS bickering. Does Salami's attitude suck? Sure. Is he helpful? Not always. Does that make him scum? No. Get over it.

 

See past the stuff you dislike and look for what's actually scummy.

 

Lynch Sooh. Get her flip. See who dies at Night. Proceed.

 

Plain and simple folks. Get with the program

 

Good post!

[alannalynn]

I like that post too, NB

[Eldrick4221]

@Dice In reference to your catching low % plays.

 

You are now probably 1 for 3. You still gonna do this?

[Eldrick4221]

I'm kinda disappointed I didn't bring back Durin.

I wasn't expecting anything to happen.

It's not my role, but it's and advanced game so /shrug. 

Still. N3 I tried to.

[Eldrick4221]

an*

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

re #4711 Wombat pressuring Eldrick still willing to lynch Sooh but voting Wombat--maybe I'm just not following what you're saying there correctly, but if there are two mafia left (circa my last response) and he thinks ONE of them is between me and the two of you, then why shouldn't he still be looking at Sooh? You can change your mind on who is the better option...

 

 

This. Exactly this. I'm actually contemplating moving my vote back. I want to clear up who is scum on Leelou's list. I just can't believe that all 6 of her non-town reads aren't scum.

 

But I don't see myself getting the support for a Wombo lynch, so I dunno.

 

 

Leelou could have done anything...i'd rather focus on their actions since...fwiw.

[Cory Caboose]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

 

Csarmi(1): Zander

Sooh(5): Sili, WomboCombo, Talya, NotBob, Eldrick

Aiel Heart(2): Yates, Dice

 

Not Voting: Alannalynn, Sooh, Aiel Heart, Csarmi

 

With twelve alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

A deadline is set for Thursday, June 25th at 7:00pm PST.

 

[Andrej]

IYO who are the wolves, AJ?

 

I think Sooh is the way to go for today. If she flips town that makes me a little less certain about Talya, but we can burn that bridge when we get there. I pretty much always go Sooh over Talya in this situation barring something happening.

 

After that I would say it's between Heart and Yates.

 

Other players have things that look bad for them, but I'm willing to trust my reads until I don't have to anymore.

 

I'm kinda disappointed I didn't bring back Durin.

I wasn't expecting anything to happen.

It's not my role, but it's and advanced game so /shrug. 

Still. N3 I tried to.

 

What?

[Eldrick4221]

I meant N2. Irrelevant. Reviving isn't in my role. I just wanted him back :P

[Andrej]

Fwiw this game has been easier to follow without Darthe spamming the thread with his stream of conscious

[Eldrick4221]

 

I think it's more likely that that there's a third party killer who renders it's death targets unreadable. 

 

Shad, how would Darthe have died by that theory?

 

Did no one else see this? 3rd party killer who kills unreadably. And its MORE LIKELY.  then Janitor??  Gimme a break.

 

AH has been around enough to know this

 

Vote AH

 

 

I missed this post, and I also missed the wording in Heart's post.

 

This is a point against Heart.

[Andrej]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

 

Csarmi(1): Zander

Sooh(5): Sili, WomboCombo, Talya, NotBob, Eldrick

Aiel Heart(2): Yates, Dice

 

Not Voting: Alannalynn, Sooh, Aiel Heart, Csarmi

 

With twelve alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

A deadline is set for Thursday, June 25th at 7:00pm PST.

 

Quote this post for later because it will be important to note after Sooh's flip.

 

I think regardless of her flip that you'll find scum in the off wagons. The remaining wolves need to look clean and getting the blood of a lynched villager on their hands won't be good. If she flips wolf - well - with it down to the last few bussing really isn't optimal. Not worth losing another partner and making endgame parity all that harder to reach with them already down their GF and RB.

[Eldrick4221]

Fwiw this game has been easier to follow without Darthe spamming the thread with his stream of conscious

 

It's definitely been slower, but I actually appreciated his input this game.

It's actually gone from too fast to too slow :P

 

After ~10 mins of refreshing with no new content, i voiced the words "I miss Darthe."

My mom overheard me and said "I don't think I've ever heard anyone use those 3 words together"

[Eldrick4221]

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

 

Csarmi(1): Zander

Sooh(5): Sili, WomboCombo, Talya, NotBob, Eldrick

Aiel Heart(2): Yates, Dice

 

Not Voting: Alannalynn, Sooh, Aiel Heart, Csarmi

 

With twelve alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

A deadline is set for Thursday, June 25th at 7:00pm PST.

 

Quote this post for later because it will be important to note after Sooh's flip.

 

I think regardless of her flip that you'll find scum in the off wagons. The remaining wolves need to look clean and getting the blood of a lynched villager on their hands won't be good. If she flips wolf - well - with it down to the last few bussing really isn't optimal. Not worth losing another partner and making endgame parity all that harder to reach with them already down their GF and RB.

 

It should also be noted that I started the bus. I didn't stay on, but I do agree it's the direction to go today.

[Eldrick4221]

You know what. I'm clearing Zander for pushing the first 2 lynches. His point is a great one, and I don't know why I was still skeptical after it.

 

If Sooh flips wolf, I will also clear Wombo for the same reason. He is driving this lynch.