[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Andrej]

And those who think there's a wolf between myself and Yates, look at the direction he wants to go in toDay compared to mine. He basically is willing to go anyone over soon when at this point it's pretty obvious she's a wolf.

 

Once again, food for thought.

[csarmi]

 

**snip**

 

@Sooh, out of everyone you thought to ISO CS, even though he is giving himself up as lynch because of the WIFOM it may cause later. REALLY!!?

 

 

Why would I not? I don't like self voting at all, and that's what prompted me to do his ISO. I don't get why that's a bad thing at all.

Weird cause you were at me before that as well, iso and all.

[csarmi]

Meh. Putting Sooh back to the unknown pile. Just went through all three games. I am not seeing her town game here - she actually did things there. Here she did absolutely nothing whatsoever.

 

Her posts just don't sound natural at all. Its as if thwy written for homework or something.

 

I can't tell if she has been tilted by being lynched as villager too many times and just too frozen to poat naturally or she is just going through the motions.

 

Still believe that intro was quite + but i checked and she almost always did similar, just less relaxed.

 

Sooh if you are a villager you need to show us.

 

And regardless your alignment: please get back to your mass effect style. Much more interesting if anytning.

 

I know how much she values interaction and hoq hard it id her to play off sync but just no.

[csarmi]

Aj wassup bro. Busy?

[Andrej]

Yeah. Otw to work currently

 

Game is all but solved anyway and it seems the more we talk the more people argue pointlessly.

 

Lynch the wolves, win the game. Simple

[Yates]

He basically is willing to go anyone over soon when at this point it's pretty obvious she's a wolf.

 

Once again, food for thought.

Anyone over Sooh. Or Dice. Or Csarmi. Or Laine. Or NB. Or Sili. Or Zander. But yeah. It's pretty obvious I don't want to lynch my Town reads. The harder you push, frankly, the less I want to lynch her.

[Andrej]

Why are you town reading her ftr?

[Yates]

Why are you town reading her ftr?

I would have to look back but off the top of my head when she was caught up in thread she was making "Sooh posts." But really, it's not my job to prove she is Town. It's your job to prove she's scum. Do you have a bullet list of top reasons she's scum?

[Yates]

Alright, I went back and looked. I got my Sooh Town read with Darthe's help right around here because I wasn't feeling great about her early. So, I guess that's underwhelming.

 

I should probably check her in ISO.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Why are you town reading her ftr?

I would have to look back but off the top of my head when she was caught up in thread she was making "Sooh posts." But really, it's not my job to prove she is Town. It's your job to prove she's scum. Do you have a bullet list of top reasons she's scum?

 

 

Somehow, some way, many forget this basic rule.

[WWWwombat]

[unvote]

 

[v]Wombo[/v]

 

Don't trust AJ. Can't read Wombat. Fairly certain there's scum in Heart/Wombo. Feeling better about Heart.

 

Still happy with a Sooh lynch, if she doesn't start playing. Don't want the votes to fly up without giving her a chance. Internet problems SUCK.

 

BTW Sooh, if you're town, you could always see if you could sub out, if you're not able to play. If you're a wolf...keep doing what you're doing.

 

If you're fairly certain there's a scum in Heart/Wombo, then why were you voting Sooh before this post and why are you still happy with a Sooh lynch?  That's called cognitive dissonance and it's not a good look.  If you are town, I think you need to reevaluate your certainty on your spew analysis, which to me looks pretty amateurish.

[Talya]

this is post of Sooh's I quoted. this is prior to EOD1

 

*snip*

 

Re Heart - I think her post coming in and clearly skimming and giving her thoughts is fine. What I didn't like, which may or may not have been a typo since it made little sense, was that she said she'd barely be here next week as well. At this point, even if she is town, how does it benefit town to keep her around? If she doesn't have the chance to make proper reads and ideas she's basically just , excuse the expression, dead weight. If she is scum and we take her out, then great. If she is town and we take her out, then at least she won't make bad decisions at must lynch because she hasn't been able to follow the thread and ask her questions. However, I do see the point that her flip may not tell us much. 

 

That's how I see it anyway. 

 

At this point in the game I'm just waiting for a flip to inform my reads further. I feel a little like I'm banging my head against the wall, and I think a lot of people do. 

 

 

I didn't like what she was saying here. She was hoping to push (or others to a lynch on AH through inactivity. this I find quite Ironic, because she has hardly been around. But the other thing that has come out of this is that Ah said she would be more active this week (it was a typo) and yet hasn't been around much neither.

 

I need to go over Day 2 in my mind as well.

 

Dice has started to trend town for me, Sooh and AH are still down low and I seem to flip flop between them. I have not really looked at Eld lately so will need to take a look again. Still not convinced on WombyAJ, need to check something there too.

 

@ Alanna - Funny how words can be, you saying Me and Eld "jumped" on Yates train, I believe at one point you also "jumped" on that train.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Why is there a scum in Heart/Wombo?

Because Leelou scumread them. Seph is clear. Durin is probably clear. That leaves those 2.

 

LOL - If people think there's scum in Yates/Wombo and there's scum in AH/Wombo? The common denominator is fairly obvious.

 

I might be willing to explore this option.

 

 

-_-

[WWWwombat]

her scum tell that game was to avoid controversy and a failure to hunt.

 

 

Pretty much been replicated this game.

[WWWwombat]

 

perhaps.  or maybe they had seen the end was coming quickly for them.

 

 

My read on that is that they initially were putting up at least a token effort against the lynch but then gave up on it quickly, as evidenced by the post from Verb that I pointed out had no fire in it.

[WWWwombat]

Csarmi votes are being wasted imo. NotBob if you think he's scum then do yourself the favor and shoot him at Night. I'm not gonna support wasting a lynch on him.

 

As I said the other evening, this game is pretty much on auto pilot but if you all want to continue spinning your wheels and tinfoiling on each other be my guest but I'm not gonna be a party to it.

 

We lynch Sooh and get her flip and proceed from there. I think she's the best choice for toDay based on Leelou's soft pushing, Sooh's lack of depth, and the suspects she's worked this game.

 

<3 <3 <3

[WWWwombat]

Keep Calm and Lynch Wilves

[WWWwombat]

Wombat reads:

 

WomboCombo
Seph (for when he comes back)
Alannalynn
Csarmi
Dice
NotBob
Zander
Sili
Eldrick
Aiel <3
Talya
Yates
Sooh (Mentored by Pizza)

[WWWwombat]

Could be misreading a light green there, but not gonna go there today.

[Yates]

Sooh ISO:

 

Okay... This was not an easy ISO because it required pulling up other people's quotes in ISO to get context.

 

The Sooh ISO really begins with Leelou's first post where she called Sooh out on "pulling a Heart."

 

That was a bad push at the time and in retrospect was either way fake or a terrible distancing move.

 

Worth noting that Eldrick accused Sooh of buddying Heart with that opening. So if Sooh is Town that would look bad for Eldrick.

 

Sooh mentions she won't be around for EOD since that's 4AM her time here.

 

I'm okay with her Zander meta stuff and her early evolution on her Heart read. I also chuckled at how she handled NB's "this dog don't hunt" thing.

 

Even if I disagreed with half the list, her first real reads list in response to my line of questioning didn't sound terrible from her perspective. Nothing forced and no obvious agenda.

 

I hadn't noticed this before but this Sili post was a pretty good observation on something I missed. Sooh is a straight shooter.

 

Actually, this is a better post to read:

#SOOH

 

 

Leelou might be bussing sooh for cred early on. I cant tell but her logic is kind of fuzzy and might indicate the use of inside knowledge. One of sooh or ah has a good chance. I will try to look harder at them.

 

 

I'm still thinking Sooh. I had a thought about it in my shower just now. I would so go for someone on my team day one. If you look back at how Leelou went for her, it was rubbish, and I dodn't think it was for the purpose of getting her lynched, but to pull the seer to look at her. It wasn't a good argument. Why not do that on one of your team, Sooh just brushed it off.

You know this is exactly what I said a couple pages ago.

 

 

snip

 

 

 

@Sooh: why did you feel the need to pop in when u couldn't add anything constructive?

You mean this morning? 

 

I was excited about the game starting. Just wanted to pop in and say hi.

 

Did you expect to get pressured over that?

 

Heh no. Interesting the words that are used to describe it too. I think Eldrick described it as "pocketing Heart", when I was worried I'd offend her. I understand more Leelou's stance, but she couldn't possibly know that I was already late for work. Seems a bit aggressive for a first push though. I don't know.

 

 

Sooh when u are caught up tell me what you think of Zander so far

Will do. I'll try to get a grasp of most who have posted.

 

now that it's mentioned here, i notice you treated heart's op a lot less seriously than the rest of us did, to the point you were worried it would offend her if you joked about it.

 

seems like a queer perspective for hunting. u know?

 

 

sooh, if you thought heart's post was normal, and yet knew she was receiving negative attention for it, y didn't u say anything?

 

DM being slow.

 

Seph, what do u mean i voted sooh in regards to your post? I voted sooh because i spotted an inconsistency, and i don't understand how villa sooh would know heart was being normal, or didn't mention heart was receiving unwarranted criticism. it feels like she could have made a casual statement at the time real easy to the effect she didn't think anything of heart's first post. that she didn't and instead worried about whether heart would take the joke as an insult probably means she's not a good guy.

 

Sili/Sooh is not w/w, at least.

 

Given recent events [ZANDER] I think this post reads as a fair-nuff reason not to vote Thaneballs at that point.

 

This is her reads list after the Thaneballs flip. Sort of consensus.

 

And then today's stuff...

 

Meh. Not a great read. I can see why she's in the POE.

[Yates]

 

 

 

Why is there a scum in Heart/Wombo?

Because Leelou scumread them. Seph is clear. Durin is probably clear. That leaves those 2.

 

LOL - If people think there's scum in Yates/Wombo and there's scum in AH/Wombo? The common denominator is fairly obvious.

 

I might be willing to explore this option.

 

 

-_-

 

[WWWwombat]

Worth noting that Eldrick accused Sooh of buddying Heart with that opening. So if Sooh is Town that would look bad for Eldrick.

 

Eldrick is also WTL Sooh despite being "fairly certain" there's a wolf between me and Heart, which looks bad for him regardless imo.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

 

Why is there a scum in Heart/Wombo?

Because Leelou scumread them. Seph is clear. Durin is probably clear. That leaves those 2.

 

LOL - If people think there's scum in Yates/Wombo and there's scum in AH/Wombo? The common denominator is fairly obvious.

 

I might be willing to explore this option.

 

 

-_-

 

 

 

I have a pretty serious love/hate relationship with you this game.

[WWWwombat]

Wombat reads:

 

WomboCombo

Seph (for when he comes back)

Alannalynn

Csarmi

Dice

NotBob

Zander

Sili

Eldrick

Aiel <3

Talya

Yates

Sooh (Mentored by Pizza)

 

Rook to e1; Check.

[Yates]

I have a pretty serious love/hate relationship with you this game.

Ditto.

 

I blame AJ.