[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Zander?]

Zander. You pointed out that you were helping both of their trains along. That doesn't clear you. It might by itself, but it smells of deep wolf to me. Bussing your teammates to look better in comparison.

 

 

lol.....dude yeah not only "My teammates" (your words not mine) but the GF and RB.  dude im LOCK CLEAR, and didn't like my D1 thats fine but go back and look over my whoole game and  how early i peg Leelou and Thaneballs and STAY there.  you keep mentioning this and getting NO WHERE, 

[Aiel Heart]

 

Ok, a few things before today's analysis:

 

1) Is there a restriction on the number of times Seph will come back? This role is new to me as well

 

 

What? Why? Why is he already dead again in your eyes?

 

Night Kills are still a thing, and some night the doc might choose to protect someone else (assuming Durin wasn't the doc). I don't think that question is that unreasonable. Is he guaranteed to make it to basically end game depending on when he is killed, or is he only going to come back to us once?

 

And here again

[Yates]

Why do you say no town PR's dead aside from Seph?  Durin could have been one, no?  It's true that I wouldn't have expected this kind of performance from a scum team you were on, but everyone has off days and I could say the same for Verb and Leelou.  Going forward, I'll probably have an easier time reading you from your posts about others than from those about yourself, because I just can't ever trust you.

Okay. No KNOWN PR's. I didn't account for Durin.

 

That's fine if you don't trust me. There's a reason a certain someone ALWAYS investigates me N1 as cop I guess...

[Zander?]

 

 

Ok, a few things before today's analysis:

 

1) Is there a restriction on the number of times Seph will come back? This role is new to me as well

 

 

What? Why? Why is he already dead again in your eyes?

 

Night Kills are still a thing, and some night the doc might choose to protect someone else (assuming Durin wasn't the doc). I don't think that question is that unreasonable. Is he guaranteed to make it to basically end game depending on when he is killed, or is he only going to come back to us once?

 

And here again

 

 

this makes sense, 

[Sili Quirrels]

FTR Sili. I don't believe your wincon. If it really was that, you wouldn't tell us. Anyone with a kill ability wouldn't kill someone that wants to die. That fact that you said so basically means you aren't.

 

If it was that, you would want it to be a surprise. Please don't bring it up again.

Of course I'm joking Eldrick. =|

 

I'm annoyed at not bob and salami because they say a bunch of nonsense and act hot-headed about it.  I kind of wish I didn't have to deal with it.

 

I cased Verbal and Thane fwiw.

 

I case whoever I suspect too.People with tunnel vision usually forget what doesn't fit and do what they do regardless of what I do, so here's what I'm doing: I'm expressing irritation and I'm moving on.

 

I don't have time during the day to post a lot, so it's pretty understandable when Dice says I am different. That said, I have contributed, and Dice doesn't know me. He has a 100% track record of not liking me and being wrong, except one time I played in a mish mash and didn't post on DM at all for the first day. Maybe he town read me in the zombie game a while back, but that's it.

[Sili Quirrels]

Not bob, where are you at in ur reading?

[Yates]

That being said, I do still think there is 1 scum in the remaining living members of Leelou's scum list. Wombo and Heart. Both of them have reasons to be either alignment in my book. It's, of course, possible that Leelou did her list differently than she normally does this game, but if we start thinking like that, this game gets so much harder. Go with what you know works until it doesn't.

This is a good post and probably right. Probably helps that I'm uncomfortable with both slots.

[Yates]

[v]Heart[/v]

 

I just want to see where other people take this... <_<

[Yates]

I think that's it for tonight. Night all.

[Eldrick4221]

 

FTR Sili. I don't believe your wincon. If it really was that, you wouldn't tell us. Anyone with a kill ability wouldn't kill someone that wants to die. That fact that you said so basically means you aren't.

 

If it was that, you would want it to be a surprise. Please don't bring it up again.

Of course I'm joking Eldrick. =|

 

I'm annoyed at not bob and salami because they say a bunch of nonsense and act hot-headed about it.  I kind of wish I didn't have to deal with it.

 

I cased Verbal and Thane fwiw.

 

I case whoever I suspect too.People with tunnel vision usually forget what doesn't fit and do what they do regardless of what I do, so here's what I'm doing: I'm expressing irritation and I'm moving on.

 

I don't have time during the day to post a lot, so it's pretty understandable when Dice says I am different. That said, I have contributed, and Dice doesn't know me. He has a 100% track record of not liking me and being wrong, except one time I played in a mish mash and didn't post on DM at all for the first day. Maybe he town read me in the zombie game a while back, but that's it.

 

Glad we cleared that up. :)

 

I am still townreading you, but your game has been different.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Ok, a few things before today's analysis:

 

1) Is there a restriction on the number of times Seph will come back? This role is new to me as well

 

 

What? Why? Why is he already dead again in your eyes?

 

Night Kills are still a thing, and some night the doc might choose to protect someone else (assuming Durin wasn't the doc). I don't think that question is that unreasonable. Is he guaranteed to make it to basically end game depending on when he is killed, or is he only going to come back to us once?

 

And here again

 

Fair enough.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Not bob, where are you at in ur reading?

 

I've read it up to this post.  what shall we discuss?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I don't know why. I thought Zander was in the bottom of Leelou's list. Last night my mind was mulling over him. Building a case against him.

 

I'm still not happy with his Day 1. How close his gameplay was to Darthe's. It just felt weird. Still does.

 

During the convo between Zander and Salami, Salami made better points than Zander did. Zander looking for people that "look bad" isn't a good fit for town.

 

I was gonna point out that Leelou was scumreading him, and that both Yates and Verb mentioned that Leelou does this with a teammate. This doesn't apply to him. I had the facts wrong in my head.

 

That being said, I do still think there is 1 scum in the remaining living members of Leelou's scum list. Wombo and Heart. Both of them have reasons to be either alignment in my book. It's, of course, possible that Leelou did her list differently than she normally does this game, but if we start thinking like that, this game gets so much harder. Go with what you know works until it doesn't.

 

Between these two...I'd vote Wombo.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Zander. You pointed out that you were helping both of their trains along. That doesn't clear you. It might by itself, but it smells of deep wolf to me. Bussing your teammates to look better in comparison.

 

 

lol.....dude yeah not only "My teammates" (your words not mine) but the GF and RB.  dude im LOCK CLEAR, and didn't like my D1 thats fine but go back and look over my whoole game and  how early i peg Leelou and Thaneballs and STAY there.  you keep mentioning this and getting NO WHERE, 

 

I'm not convinced your scum, but the pieces fit better for you to be than they do for several others.

 

I will look over your game now, and see if it changes my mind at all.

[Sili Quirrels]

doin'rounds

 

 

 

 

Salami is incredible in the traditional sense of the word.

 

You have my permission to lynch.

 

<3

 

 

 

leaning  town on Durin and slight town on Thaneballs

 

null read on Wombocombo- but i didnt like the early agression and aj carrying over stuff from last game and the fact hes been pretty inactive.  im not just relying on darthes math i think there a likely chance theres scum on the hydra list.

 

 

i think someone is more likely to say this as a villager, in this context, but not sure . just kind of interesting. also, the angle that's being taken could have lead to verbal, so it seems like it'd be risky for scum to pursue.

 

anyway, noted.

Salami he dropped the peek in his OP. So Day action? Not likely.

Masons? Maybe. Still not the best way to go about breadcrumbing imo.

You're more advanced than to come to these conclusions imo.

 

didn't think about this.

 

 

 

@Leelou- ive been leaning you towards slightly wolfy.  am i wrong and if so why?

 

zander town

 

Sili I could use some help lynching Darthe. Or do you think I'm wrong there?

i think this is a a super genuine post for salami. probably doesn't ask a villager to vote another villager as scum.

 

 

Yes it was my joke that you decided MIGHT POSSIBLY IN 1 of 100,000( or maybe a few more percentage points, IDK you didn't really say definitively) times be serious that led you to drop a vote an hold onto it all day.

Dude. Are you serious right now? WHY DO YOU KEEP IGNORING MY SIMPLE QUESTION?

WHY do you keep demanding that Dice QUANTIFIES his read on this? This is complete garbage to me. And it's seriously ticking me off that you won't answer.

 

This line of discussion goes on for a long while, and I'm not sure what the point is. I think Yates started pressing Turin page 20 or something.

 

 

 

I haven't been following the dice & darthe interaction at all. Someone care to explain concisely?

 
 

Peeked Darthe N0.

Result:

 

 
Dice didn't like this post.
Right. Let me break it down.

It's basically a self-vote - since Turin claimed to peek his hydra buddy a wolf.

The REASON Dice is ascribing so much scum value to a self-vote [which is usually dumb but not really alignment indicative] is because he thinks this looks like a staged interaction orchestrated by Darthe for lulz.

I won't say I'm the GOAT Turin reader but I don't recall his game being self-vote lulzy. I *DO* know Darthe's meta and can absolutely see Dice being 100% on the money with this.

Turin has been hard defending this play by trying to force Dice into ascribing a numerical value to the odds of him doing this as Town vs Scum. And that's complete horse pucky. If that was just a joke, why not say "lulz jkjk?" This defense is really pinging hard because it's way off point and the play itself seems out of character for Turin.

So there you go. Now you know why I've been riding Turin to answer me for two days and why I'm annoyed that he's been ignoring my question. I think he's ignoring the question because he doesn't have a good answer.

I'm going to finish my reread but I'm probably voting Durin.

 

Summary: yates' insistence is kind of weird and one dimensional, but I agree with the bold at least.

 

I didn't get the impression it was unreasonable for turin to pin Dice  down. I am... pretty sure that's what he was trying to do? (haven't read turin's posts in a while)

 

 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

FTR Sili. I don't believe your wincon. If it really was that, you wouldn't tell us. Anyone with a kill ability wouldn't kill someone that wants to die. That fact that you said so basically means you aren't.

 

If it was that, you would want it to be a surprise. Please don't bring it up again.

Of course I'm joking Eldrick. =|

 

I'm annoyed at not bob and salami because they say a bunch of nonsense and act hot-headed about it.  I kind of wish I didn't have to deal with it.

 

I cased Verbal and Thane fwiw.

 

I case whoever I suspect too.People with tunnel vision usually forget what doesn't fit and do what they do regardless of what I do, so here's what I'm doing: I'm expressing irritation and I'm moving on.

 

I don't have time during the day to post a lot, so it's pretty understandable when Dice says I am different. That said, I have contributed, and Dice doesn't know me. He has a 100% track record of not liking me and being wrong, except one time I played in a mish mash and didn't post on DM at all for the first day. Maybe he town read me in the zombie game a while back, but that's it.

 

Glad we cleared that up. :)

 

I am still townreading you, but your game has been different.

 

That's fine, it has been.

 

I should still be cleared by spew.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Not bob, where are you at in ur reading?

 

I've read it up to this post.  what shall we discuss?

 

just curious.   wanted to know what standards to evaluate u with.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

Not bob, where are you at in ur reading?

 

I've read it up to this post.  what shall we discuss?

 

just curious.   wanted to know what standards to evaluate u with.

 

 

my actions...how should we evaluate you?

[Zander?]

 

 

Zander. You pointed out that you were helping both of their trains along. That doesn't clear you. It might by itself, but it smells of deep wolf to me. Bussing your teammates to look better in comparison.

 

 

lol.....dude yeah not only "My teammates" (your words not mine) but the GF and RB.  dude im LOCK CLEAR, and didn't like my D1 thats fine but go back and look over my whoole game and  how early i peg Leelou and Thaneballs and STAY there.  you keep mentioning this and getting NO WHERE, 

 

I'm not convinced your scum, but the pieces fit better for you to be than they do for several others.

 

I will look over your game now, and see if it changes my mind at all.

 

 

fair enough

[Eldrick4221]

Blah. I did not get enough sleep. Gonna go rest a bit before work.

 

3 pages in on Zander's ISO. Nothing sticking out one way or the other yet. Can I get other people's opinion on him? All I've heard recently is his own.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

Not bob, where are you at in ur reading?

 

I've read it up to this post.  what shall we discuss?

 

just curious.   wanted to know what standards to evaluate u with.

 

 

my actions...how should we evaluate you?

 

wrt where i'm at? pg 70 in review. i missed the last 20 pages before eod yesterday because i was asleep. I missed 70 - 80 I think,a nd a few pages when I went to sleep too.

[Sili Quirrels]

Blah. I did not get enough sleep. Gonna go rest a bit before work.

 

3 pages in on Zander's ISO. Nothing sticking out one way or the other yet. Can I get other people's opinion on him? All I've heard recently is his own.

seems on the ball, a lot, and has the most posts, which combined counts for a lot. i haven't noticed anything bad. i think the interactions with lee probably are partially clearing.

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Csarmi(2): Zander, NotBob

Sooh(1): Eldrick

Aiel Heart(1): Yates

 

Not Voting: Everyone else

 

 

With twelve alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

A deadline is set for Thursday, June 25th at 7:00pm PST.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

No, not anymore. From her previous list it looked as though she was pretty much saying she was going to be inactive throughout, and I didn't like that. In the case of inactives I guess the mod would step in. I'm just worried that a slanking villager would  lose the game for us. Now that she says she'll be here more I'm happy to let her show me if she is town or not by her posting. 

 

Her list reads kind of rushed, like she said it would be. It's a lot of commentary on what has been going on and a few thoughts regarding what it might mean. I don't hate her vote on Dice, but I don't think I'll follow her on it today. 

 

Fence sitting. -___-

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

Not bob, where are you at in ur reading?

 

I've read it up to this post.  what shall we discuss?

 

just curious.   wanted to know what standards to evaluate u with.

 

 

my actions...how should we evaluate you?

 

wrt where i'm at? pg 70 in review. i missed the last 20 pages before eod yesterday because i was asleep. I missed 70 - 80 I think,a nd a few pages when I went to sleep too.

 

 

Do you have questions?  can we work together?