Alien mafia [BASIC] - Game Over - Town won

[Darthe]

tough game to read because everyones attitude here is tilting

[Darthe]

Can anyone find out where EoD is?  Doesn't list it in the OP

[Darthe]

For both days, just to clarify

[Darthe]

[alannalynn]

 

Deadline - 11 AM Sunday

[alannalynn]

Who has an attitude?

[Darthe]

Not an attitude, like an issue.  General attitudes, as in the way people seem to feel/relate to the game.

[alannalynn]

I'm currently working through ISOs on everyone to see if anything pops out to me. I could be watching OITNB on Netflix, though, so take this as a sign I love you guys.

[alannalynn]

 

Hallia why so many null in post 508? You have AH, Sooh, Darthe. I'm leaning scum on the first two, hoping for town on the latter

 

Let's see what I have... I need to go back and ISO maybe later tonight once I've slept, but quick reads

 

Alanna

Sili

Talya

 

Darthe

Hallia

 

NotBob

Shad

 

Heart

Sooh

Might move Hallia down a little bit after reading her ISO, feels like she's floating a bit this game which I don't like.

 

I'll go ahead and Vote Sooh though

That was my last reads list, I moved a few people after ISOs though... I still want an answer to the underlined above. Actually, I want more from Hally in general. This is a combination of my thoughts/actions and reads on others that make things make more sense for me.

 

Alanna- Town- I know this

 

SiliQ- Town- put some pressure on Shad d1, but has been defending him a bit too because his reads are "naive"; helped along the Dae lynch d2, doesn't like that AH is always catching up and that she was defensive about it (@Sili, do you still feel AH is scum?); still wants to lynch the Darthe; "Ah's posts are constructed like she wants to be understood, but I don't necessarily get the feeling she wants to catch scum so it's a problem."

 

Talya- Town- doesn't like me too much day one lol; craptastic hammer on Eldrick; thought Hally was slipping under the radar, not a fan of Hall's posts in general (wolf lean); was opposing train to Dae, and hammered her as well;  unsure on Shad; wants more explanation over information from AH's posts, getting wolf lean from Sooh for interactions around Dae d2; bottom reads: Sooh Hallia, Shad (slight); I've liked Talya more and more as the game progressed, I have her as pretty good town read right now

 

Darthe- /Town- I said what I wanted to earlier, I do keep going back and forth with him; I do not like his actions d2, but I'll leave him in cautious town for the moment, because I really have nowhere else to put him

 

NotBob- /Town- Nothing bad from him that I can see, thinks AH probably town, Hally could be scum

 

Aiel Heart- Null/Scum- I think I had a scum read on her d1 because she was didn't get what I was implying about posting before catching up being a potential scum slip bc it's what implicated her in Middle Earth;; Did have a defensive post after being questioned from Sili about catching up; D2 found Shad, Dae, Sooh, Talya scummy and voted on the Talya train (for the hammer, an off feel to her posts, and changing reads); mafia read on Sooh; Yet she says she cant figure out Hallia and votes her instead of joining the Sooh train- You answer why, but have you figured out Hallia yet?

 

Shad- /Scum- He just feels too knowledgeable and coached, like I've mentioned before; defended Eldrick d1, seems very tunnel-y with Darthe as his main suspect; not much else to say

 

Hallia- Scum- I'm a little confused because I'm not getting the same snarky feel from like she was in ME, but I'm seeing lots of floating coming from her, not a lot of posts; implicated Me because Yates was killed N1, which I called out as being stupid, and she didn't like Talya because of the derp hammer; defends AH saying she wasn't being defensive (to Sili's questioning); votes Talya d2 and post-lynch says that doesn't clear Talya at all, which is really odd thing to say after lynching scum; Gives no reason why NB is her bottom scum and still doesn't vote him; isn't very forthcoming with her thoughts, currently voting Heart; not good at answering questions directed at her from other players

 

Sooh- Scum- not much going on from her, tunneled in on Darthe d2, stayed off Dae lynch then has excuses, seems kinda cautious; I didn't like her large null pile d2 at all, or that Dae was a null/scum lean (this is the original thing that i noted in the wrong place and why I didn't like AH lol, sorry); she's leaning mafia on Shad, Hall, Darthe

[alannalynn]

 

Hallia why so many null in post 508? You have AH, Sooh, Darthe. I'm leaning scum on the first two, hoping for town on the latter

 

Let's see what I have... I need to go back and ISO maybe later tonight once I've slept, but quick reads

 

Alanna

Sili

Talya

 

Darthe

Hallia

 

NotBob

Shad

 

Heart

Sooh

Might move Hallia down a little bit after reading her ISO, feels like she's floating a bit this game which I don't like.

 

I'll go ahead and Vote Sooh though

That was my last reads list, I moved a few people after ISOs though... I still want an answer to the underlined above. Actually, I want more from Hally in general. This is a combination of my thoughts/actions and reads on others that make things make more sense for me.

 

Alanna- Town- I know this

 

SiliQ- Town- put some pressure on Shad d1, but has been defending him a bit too because his reads are "naive"; helped along the Dae lynch d2, doesn't like that AH is always catching up and that she was defensive about it (@Sili, do you still feel AH is scum?); still wants to lynch the Darthe; "Ah's posts are constructed like she wants to be understood, but I don't necessarily get the feeling she wants to catch scum so it's a problem."

 

Talya- Town- doesn't like me too much day one lol; craptastic hammer on Eldrick; thought Hally was slipping under the radar, not a fan of Hall's posts in general (wolf lean); was opposing train to Dae, and hammered her as well;  unsure on Shad; wants more explanation over information from AH's posts, getting wolf lean from Sooh for interactions around Dae d2; bottom reads: Sooh Hallia, Shad (slight); I've liked Talya more and more as the game progressed, I have her as pretty good town read right now

 

Darthe- /Town- I said what I wanted to earlier, I do keep going back and forth with him; I do not like his actions d2, but I'll leave him in cautious town for the moment, because I really have nowhere else to put him

 

NotBob- /Town- Nothing bad from him that I can see, thinks AH probably town, Hally could be scum

 

Aiel Heart- Null/Scum- I think I had a scum read on her d1 because she was didn't get what I was implying about posting before catching up being a potential scum slip bc it's what implicated her in Middle Earth;; Did have a defensive post after being questioned from Sili about catching up; D2 found Shad, Dae, Sooh, Talya scummy and voted on the Talya train (for the hammer, an off feel to her posts, and changing reads); mafia read on Sooh; Yet she says she cant figure out Hallia and votes her instead of joining the Sooh train- You answer why, but have you figured out Hallia yet?

 

Shad- /Scum- He just feels too knowledgeable and coached, like I've mentioned before; defended Eldrick d1, seems very tunnel-y with Darthe as his main suspect; not much else to say

 

Hallia- Scum- I'm a little confused because I'm not getting the same snarky feel from like she was in ME, but I'm seeing lots of floating coming from her, not a lot of posts; implicated Me because Yates was killed N1, which I called out as being stupid, and she didn't like Talya because of the derp hammer; defends AH saying she wasn't being defensive (to Sili's questioning); votes Talya d2 and post-lynch says that doesn't clear Talya at all, which is really odd thing to say after lynching scum; Gives no reason why NB is her bottom scum and still doesn't vote him; isn't very forthcoming with her thoughts, currently voting Heart; not good at answering questions directed at her from other players

 

Sooh- Scum- not much going on from her, tunneled in on Darthe d2, stayed off Dae lynch then has excuses, seems kinda cautious; I didn't like her large null pile d2 at all, or that Dae was a null/scum lean (this is the original thing that i noted in the wrong place and why I didn't like AH lol, sorry); she's leaning mafia on Shad, Hall, Darthe

[Sooh]

 

 

I'm still not biting the Eldrick chain.  It might be useful information later, but I think the inconsistencies in his subsequent posts feel more like a natural reaction to getting tossed under the bus.  He did say something contradictory in his second post--"listing everyone as town doesn't sit well for me"--and he's trying to justify both the "joke" side and the "serious" side but I really don't see a way to explain both.  If he really is wolf, shouldn't one of them stop him from digging this hole and redirect our attention on someone else?

 

 

Alanna/AJ/Laine, I wonder if you are one of those people that will just always strike me as scummy, and would have to learn to read past it. I do think it is a gross overgeneralization to say that you shouldn't post as you are catching up otherwise you are mafia. 

 

This is how I feel.  I didn't like how she's been approaching Eldrick at all. 

 

 

 Felt like day one crap votes. It was literally page two and most of what had been said so far was spam.

 

 

For instance this, justifying Yates and NotBob's "day one crap votes" while gunning down Eldrick for the same.

 

But does this approach make her wolfy, or a really aggressive town trying to light some fires and get this game rolling?  Her individual posts almost never sit well with me, but when I look at them as a collective I am totally comfortable with her.

 

I got good vibes from Daetirion and NotBob, but that doesn't mean much early on.

 

I went to bed last night with Darthe in my headlights, and I woke up to find Eldrick had voted him.  This is going to come back and haunt me if Eldrick does get lynched first and flips wolf (doubtful), but I really dislike Darthe's attitude so far.  Zero engagement, just pops in once in a while to remind us that good little townies will vote Eldrick.

Actually this whole Darthe going after one player in particular is what he did in House of Cards with me. He was town and wrong, but he did it almost exactly that way. 

 

explain.

 

Was this for me? In that case, which part would you like to have me explain? If it's the Darte tunneling players part it was meant to be a null read on him from me. I don't find him tunneling to be alignment indicative in any way.

 

Hallia's got me all befuddled and I wish she would speak up.  Does she have dirt on NotBob or not?

 

I don't like Sooh at all.  "Seconds away from placing her vote", so she was planning to hammer her "null/scum" read?  Hasn't said anything D3 except a quick defense against my push on her.

 

Darthe is just screwing around, and people who know him seem to think this is more indicative of a bored town Darthe than a real scum Darthe, but he's done absolutely nothing in-game to suggest that he is town.

 

I still haven't given Aiel <3 a really thorough ISO yet, but at least she's willing to engage the debate.  I kind of feel like she was honestly just busy irl at the start and has since actively engaged in hunting scum.

 

Hallia's got me wondering about NotBob again.  I thought I was beyond this.  It's a wildcard to throw us off until she gives a reason imo.

 

 

Hallia, Sooh, and Darthe are all scummy.  Darthe's game is kind of unsustainable if we catch one scum.  He'll be voted off sooner or later.  Unless Sooh flips scum, in which case I'll believe she was trying to set Darthe up day 2 and back off of him.

 

Sili, what exactly did you have on Aiel?

 

Did you read this post? 

 

Uhm.. oki...

 

My vote on Darthe was based on an ISO, and it was a fairly quick one because he had basically just made short posts and pushes. It didn't take very long to read, and so I voted to see if he had a reaction to it. 

 

About Dae I think you can see that I'm not leaning any particular way on him like I was with a bunch of other people, but I was reading people's cases on him and I could see their points, thus why I wouldn't mind a lynch there. 

 

I was also ninja'd by Talya with her hammer like I said in the post. I was seconds away from placing my vote, but when I was notified of a new post and saw it was a lynch I didn't. To be fair I would have probably voted Hallia or Shad. 

 

Shad has been looking very solving today though, so I'm liking recent development with him. 

 

 

Now Hallia:

 

She called out Eld being "Derptown" early.

She missed EOD1

Not a whole lot of reads or explanations of her reads at all.

Votes Heart for her vote. 

 

I can literally not find anything more to comment on in her ISO.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

[Sooh]

Shad has been steadily growing on me over the last few pages, so I'm actually going to turn him into a light greenie now.

[Leelou]

I didn't unvote because the mod explicitly told me early on that unvotes didn't have to happen.

 

That is the opposite of what I told you. Votes will not be counted without an unvote. It says it in the rules.

 

Vote Count

 

Hallia (3) - Notbob, Aiel Heart, Sooh

Sooh (2) - Talya, Laine

Heart (2) - Darthe, Hallia

Darthe (1) - Sili

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline - Sunday 11 AM EDT

[Shad_]

 

Hallia's got me all befuddled and I wish she would speak up.  Does she have dirt on NotBob or not?

 

I don't like Sooh at all.  "Seconds away from placing her vote", so she was planning to hammer her "null/scum" read?  Hasn't said anything D3 except a quick defense against my push on her.

 

Darthe is just screwing around, and people who know him seem to think this is more indicative of a bored town Darthe than a real scum Darthe, but he's done absolutely nothing in-game to suggest that he is town.

 

I still haven't given Aiel <3 a really thorough ISO yet, but at least she's willing to engage the debate.  I kind of feel like she was honestly just busy irl at the start and has since actively engaged in hunting scum.

 

Hallia's got me wondering about NotBob again.  I thought I was beyond this.  It's a wildcard to throw us off until she gives a reason imo.

 

 

Hallia, Sooh, and Darthe are all scummy.  Darthe's game is kind of unsustainable if we catch one scum.  He'll be voted off sooner or later.  Unless Sooh flips scum, in which case I'll believe she was trying to set Darthe up day 2 and back off of him.

 

Sili, what exactly did you have on Aiel?

 

Did you read this post? 

 

Uhm.. oki...

 

My vote on Darthe was based on an ISO, and it was a fairly quick one because he had basically just made short posts and pushes. It didn't take very long to read, and so I voted to see if he had a reaction to it. 

 

About Dae I think you can see that I'm not leaning any particular way on him like I was with a bunch of other people, but I was reading people's cases on him and I could see their points, thus why I wouldn't mind a lynch there. 

 

I was also ninja'd by Talya with her hammer like I said in the post. I was seconds away from placing my vote, but when I was notified of a new post and saw it was a lynch I didn't. To be fair I would have probably voted Hallia or Shad. 

 

Shad has been looking very solving today though, so I'm liking recent development with him. 

 

 

Now Hallia:

 

She called out Eld being "Derptown" early.

She missed EOD1

Not a whole lot of reads or explanations of her reads at all.

Votes Heart for her vote. 

 

I can literally not find anything more to comment on in her ISO.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

 

Fair enough.  Saying Talya ninja'd the hammer right before you were going to vote sounds like you were going to hammer, but I could have bothered to read the next sentence.  What are your thoughts on AH?

[Shad_]

 

I didn't unvote because the mod explicitly told me early on that unvotes didn't have to happen.

 

That is the opposite of what I told you. Votes will not be counted without an unvote. It says it in the rules.

 

Vote Count

 

Hallia (3) - Notbob, Aiel Heart, Sooh

Sooh (2) - Talya, Laine

Heart (2) - Darthe, Hallia

Darthe (1) - Sili

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline - Sunday 11 AM EDT

 

 

 

I didn't unvote because the mod explicitly told me early on that unvotes didn't have to happen.

 

That is the opposite of what I told you. Votes will not be counted without an unvote. It says it in the rules.

 

Vote Count

 

Hallia (3) - Notbob, Aiel Heart, Sooh

Sooh (2) - Talya, Laine

Heart (2) - Darthe, Hallia

Darthe (1) - Sili

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline - Sunday 11 AM EDT

 

 

 

I didn't unvote because the mod explicitly told me early on that unvotes didn't have to happen.

 

That is the opposite of what I told you. Votes will not be counted without an unvote. It says it in the rules.

 

Vote Count

 

Hallia (3) - Notbob, Aiel Heart, Sooh

Sooh (2) - Talya, Laine

Heart (2) - Darthe, Hallia

Darthe (1) - Sili

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline - Sunday 11 AM EDT

 

 

This is interesting.

[Shad_]

Woah, triple quote.

[Shad_]

Aiel, why do you like NotBob more than Sili and Laine?  Is it just because he voted Dae and said you were prob town?

[Aiel Heart]

Thank you Darthe!

Doesn't clear you entirely, but thank you.

 

Ok going to go through and read that again with responses 

[Darthe]

 

@Mod don't be high on some unvote rule, they're unneccesary

 

 

Actually, they are not. And don't tell me what is necessary or not.

Oh I took the first sentence as confirmation we didn't have to unvote.

[Darthe]

I want to be plain and clear about this.

 

We shouldlynch Sooh before Hallia. There is more of a case to be made by a good margin.

 

[unvote][v]sooh[/v]

[Leelou]

Going to Fenway again. VC in a few hours.

[Aiel Heart]

 

Now in color (because I think in color)

 

 

 

Four silly (I just wrote that as “Sili” oh dear) posts by me

Post #61 Darthe “overly jokey wolf meta”

Post #100 I post again giving opinion of Eldrick situation and Alanna slightly pinged me

Post #103 Darthe said I over-explained

Post #107 Alanna was looking at me but that’s because she pinged me

Post #108 Darthe said either me or Eldrick were wolves 

Post #123 Sooh said I felt like I did in Middle Earth game (was mafia)

Post #139 Me post, quoted later because of the line about Alanna generalizing

Post #205 my next post, which looked at the N0 stuff. 

Post #223 Darthe TL;DR

Post #288 Alanna wants to hear from me

Post #292 I pop in and ask Alanna if she wants to hear about anything in particular (next few posts hold the convo)

Post #305 Sili prefers me, Talya or Daet for a lynch, Alanna agrees next post (no reasons given)

Post #359 say I’m going to reread

Post #360 Sili votes me saying that that one had been my best post

The few posts that follow are a back and forth about my real life and activity and such

Post #372 Darthe more certain I am a wolf

Next post sili calls me defensive

Next post Hallia says I don’t seem defensive

Sili: how not?

Hallia: explanatory 

More back and forth

Post #384 my first wall of text 

+a few straggle posts by me

Sili unvoted after it[/background]

Post #395 Shad = likes my post and I’m off radar for the time being

Post #405 Sili—mafia is me, Hallia and daet[/background]

Post #409—Alanna still likes me as a wolf, doesn’t say why (also likes Dae ant Sooh)

Post #412 NotBob says I’m probably town

Post #413 Verbal says he could go with the “Heart, Hallia, Daet”

Post #434 Talya’s anecdote on me—says I mainly record events without writing too many of my thoughts in (fair enough)

Post #476—just because I’m noting everything else, it is shown in Talya’s anecdote of Sooh that she liked something I said about eldrick at some point. I recall her saying that but didn’t notice it this time around and I’m on page 24/32 and am too lazy to go back for it so close to sleepy time [/background]

Post #481—Sooh said I see 2/3 of the players scummy, but maybe I’m just paranoid—two posts later I’m listed as a null

Post #498 I like talya better and will be back 

Post #499 Sili— me, Hallia and Verbal are possibly scum (Verb died two posts later)

Post #503 Shad says I’m defending Daet. I took this all as him misunderstanding my wording but it did feel rather contrived at the time too; waited to see if it continued rather than do something that was OMGUS-y

The whole conversation about Talya misunderstanding me followed…

Post #508 I’m null to Hallia

Post #521 me—skittle puke 1 plus a few thoughts 

A few questions from me followed…

Post #535 Alanna—me and Sooh are solid scum on her reads list, NotBob and Shad are orange

Post #538 NotBob says why he liked me

Post #550 Talya has me as a very very slight town read

Post #553 Sili votes me

Post #555 Dathe votes me

Post #556 Sili unvotes me

Post #559 Sili says Hallia buddied me

Post #566 Sili revotes me

Post #567 Darthe “SPEEDLYNCHING HEART"

Post #568 Sili hopes to get lucky[/background]

Post #577 Sili has me on the bottom of his list. Doesn’t actually say anything about me. 

Post #583 Alanna votes Sooh over me (just noting)

Post #584 Sili likes me better than Sooh

Post #585 my next WoT

Post #586 Alanna can go for either of us—explains why me in #589

Post #588 Darthe notes a waffle

Back and forth

Post #598 (sili said)

me, Hallia and Sooh are the only viable lynch candidates 

Post #601 Hallia votes me for voting her over Sooh

Post #603 Sili unvotes, votes Sooh (then unvotes and votes Darthe)

Post #617 Shad still needs to ISO me

Post #618” (Sliy said) Ah's posts are constructed like she wants to be understood, but I don't necessarily get the feeling she wants to catch scum so it's a problem."

Post #622 my responses to people

Post #623 shad—my paranoia sounds fake

Post #625 Darthe notes that I had called him town at first—we’ll of course totally ignore that reads can change with a change in behavior or lack thereof…

Post #626 Alanna thinks I’m pretty pro-town atm

Post #627 and #628 Shad quoting all of my posts

 

 

 

Ok, so Darthe has never liked me, I caught Alanna's attention when I didn't like her but her opinion has now changed, Sili's attention came to me somehow and he's not liked me since, Hallia sort of defended me but now doesn't like me because of my vote on her, other people are now paying attention to me because of the attention I'm getting, except for NotBob who apparently has been ok with me all along. 

 

Darthe and Hallia feel the worst to me, though I didn't like how Sili didn't exactly give me a real case on why I was being voted.

Actually, no one has really given a case on me at all... If I'm going to die, can I at least have the dignity of a case on me? 

 

~Took a little longer because coding went weird. If you see any random bits of formatting code in there,  ignore it~

I sense that the bolds are related

 

I don't like your persistence on me because you latched on early in the joking phase, pop in every now and then to go "I said she was a wolf, didn't I?" and then everything with the voting. That has been your attitude with most people the whole game, but I don't particularly like it

Also, while I'm here, Hallia: when Sili said I seemed defensive, she said I only seemed explanatory. She does know me better so I took that as an honest bit, though Sili saw it as buddying and could be right. I was null to Hallia in her next post where I was mentioned and then she voted me for voting her over Sooh. A lot of change without a lot to back it up. 

 

 

 

I'm not giving a case on you because I don't have one.

You just quoted all of my posts. Do you at least have thoughts?

 

 

I think you've been trying, you made a few observations I don't agree with and the wrong call on Talya, but I can't agree that you weren't looking.  A lot of the text is notes, but the notes contain analysis.  Sometimes your ah, punctuation remarks feel forced ("GRRR there is something obvious here that I am missing!!!!!", "I'm also just not all that bright at times..."), but the situations where I felt that don't point to anything negative.  The only thing I really have on you is voting Talya, and we know at least one town did.

 

You pinged in on Sooh a lot and noted a connection between her and Hallie, and if this game is going to pan out really easy than that just might be the answer.

 

Punctuation shows feelings on the internet and I'm excitable. 

Thank you for the thoughts

 

 

...

 

Aiel Heart- Null/Scum- I think I had a scum read on her d1 because she was didn't get what I was implying about posting before catching up being a potential scum slip bc it's what implicated her in Middle Earth;; Did have a defensive post after being questioned from Sili about catching up; D2 found Shad, Dae, Sooh, Talya scummy and voted on the Talya train (for the hammer, an off feel to her posts, and changing reads); mafia read on Sooh; Yet she says she cant figure out Hallia and votes her instead of joining the Sooh train- You answer why, but have you figured out Hallia yet?

...

First off I really liked this post and thank you for it. I didn't see anything I have questions on, but to answer your question:

If we look again at Post #585, I have Hallia in the scum category based on what I saw of her in my notes and in an ISO. It's my gut reaction of her that I "can't figure out" because it's been going back and forth and is just kind of generally "meh" with her in this game, but gut reactions are far from everything in this game so we'll go with my logical reads. I voted her in order to learn more; both about her and how other people react to that vote, and to see how Sooh responded to the pressure she already had before potentially switching to her--information to be analyzed later today. 

 

Aiel, why do you like NotBob more than Sili and Laine?  Is it just because he voted Dae and said you were prob town?

I like this question.

So I said somewhere before that I get the feeling that there is a lurking scum somewhere in the game, and I think that person is potentially hiding in plain sight and helping stir the pot a lot. In my gut read list, I have the potentials for that as Darthe, Sili, and Laine because they've been posting and giving thoughts a decent amount and are players with the presence and ability to be able to be such a player in this game. NotBob is at the fringe of that category as he has not been posting as much and people are paying overall less attention to him. 

I've also just really really liked a lot of what he's said and the only thing that has given me a reason to doubt him is that he doesn't post very much, but that feels like it might just be his posting style. 

Now, looking at all of the evidence and not just what is contrived based off of gut reads, all three of them are probably town, but we'll see how that turns out. 

 

 

 

Oh and apparently multi-quote lost the posts where Darthe and Sili talked about me/understanding me/how long I've been playing. Will go back for those

 

 

 

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AH had an excuse for being afk, but I'm not sure I buy it, although everyone has different tolerances. I'm waffling. AH had a good emotional post just now. She puts all her thoughts into words. Sometimes she repeats herself or other people but that's okay. I think she tries too hard to be sensible, or something. She just tried to shotgun a remedy to me not liking her. I don't get the sense she's paranoid at all from her tone. Shad was right when he called those two sentences fake. I think she did put me and you in the maybe a wolf spot. It's pretty gutsy to put me as a wolf at this point. I'm not sure a normal wolf would have the confidence to rationalize it to the crowd.

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Bold blue--yeah probably...

Bold green--when you're high functioning with an anxiety disorder, you have some aptitude in pretending like everything's ok. I may not have the overall tone that anyone could be mafia, but that's because I know logically not everyone is and I also want to be able to join the game. Anyone could be mafia though, and I know from experience sometimes it's the people who convince me they are town who are actually the mafia, and they are normally the people with play-styles like yours, Darthe's etc, so you're naturally in my "be extra wary of" pile. 

The sentence after I already addressed 

 

You should know that AH prob has a half decade + of experience.  Not PoG type half decade but still a lot of comfort in the game.

You have the years wrong but I feel like I'm not grasping the entirety of what you're saying here. Yes, I once played enough to be comfortable in the game. 

I joined DM in 2011, and if memory serves it was November 2011 that I played my first mafia game. I played pretty persistently for a few months, even playing games on other sites. Probably little over a dozen or so games. Summer 2012 is the last time my "list of mafias I've played in" was edited, so that was probably the last time I played a game the full way through. I've started a game here and there since then but always had to drop out due to real life chaos. 

The first game I've truly played in years was the Middle Earth game, and I subbed in really late for that and it was horrible. This is my first "real" game since I've been back at it. I'm very rusty and wasn't particularly skilled in the first place. I'm trying to remember things from before, but also trying a play style that is a little more watered down from what I used to do (you should have seen THOSE WoTs) because I want to be able to play more again and don't have the time, energy, or mental power for what I once did, and am trying to get better as a player anyhow. 

 

Sili does that help you any?

 

I suppose in a nutshell, I'm not going to make sense but I'm trying to help town as best I can.

 

 

 

Post all of that and see what I missed while typing that.  

[Aiel Heart]

Sooh, you are now at L-1. Is there anything you would like to say in your defense? 

[Shad_]

Is Sooh at L-1?  Takes five to lynch and I'm only counting three.  I'm comfortable bumping it to four but please confirm I didn't miss something obvious that will get her lynched without a chance to speak.

[Aiel Heart]

 

I didn't unvote because the mod explicitly told me early on that unvotes didn't have to happen.

 

That is the opposite of what I told you. Votes will not be counted without an unvote. It says it in the rules.

 

Vote Count

 

Hallia (3) - Notbob, Aiel Heart, Sooh

Sooh (2) - Talya, Laine

Heart (2) - Darthe, Hallia

Darthe (1) - Sili

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline - Sunday 11 AM EDT

 

I want to be plain and clear about this.

 

We shouldlynch Sooh before Hallia. There is more of a case to be made by a good margin.

 

[unvote][v]sooh[/v]

 

It was hallia that was at three not Sooh--looked at it wrong; my mistake

 

 

Sooh and Hallia, you are both at L-2. What do you have to say in your defense?