House of Cards

[Cory Caboose]

You trying to reverse pocket me?

 

Considering your thread catch-up I think I've already got you firmly in my corner

 

Which is okay, as this village has 10 houses and not all of them are occupied quite yet so you can take a loaner for awhile regardless of your alignment

[Yates]

Votecount 1.2

 

Sooh: Darthe, Bewbs McGee, dicetosser1, corycurren

Cass: Clovdyx, Andrej

SongsTress: WWWwombat

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Deadline:

[WWWwombat]

 

How so?

 

 

These are a few examples. I get the impression that he's more so setting up a 1v1 situation with people that voice suspicion over him instead of looking at things objectively. Inciting a fight is a way to put it, I guess.

 

 

There are some people I can give ~mild to ~above mild villager leans if they can believably suspect me on d1 because in my experience wolves do it very rarely, they tend to clear me and just hope i don't spotlight on them before they can get rid of me in whatever fashion

 

Clov is a tricky player, so he does not get this benefit of the doubt

 

If he wants war, he'll get war. He doesn't get a competence pass if he isn't being competent.

 

You have played plenty of games with me at this point so not seeing that as genuine

 

Even some games where I didn't even know you were you

 

I think you're better and more apt than this as a villager, you have been really on-point as a villager the last handful of games I've watched you (Warehouse 13 comes to mind)

 

Consider yourself on watch

 

That's a pretty interesting xpost

I'm going to give you space to do your thing, Verbal, so just be an obvious villager and we'll have no problems

 

Verbal has shown the ability to be a competent and follow-able villager in previous games so I'll shut up about it for now

 

If he doesn't improve in my head don't expect me to be quiet about it closer to EOD, but I'm fine with giving him some space and letting him approach the game as he pleases

 

That's pretty much the last thing I have to say about the matter

 

 

Seems more like slight knee-jerk OMGUS to me.  I'd actually expect town Cory to go harder after those people, but given that he's been talking about trying to change his style for a while and that I haven't been playing much lately, I'm inclined to think that it's not alignment indicative.

[Cory Caboose]

I am now hitting some "significant resistance", which combined with the fact that I am psychic irt to matters of game-state, might give me trouble in taking over this village if and when I feel it's necessary

 

I see this occur more often when I am right about things than when I am wrong regardless of the alignment of the people doing it

 

Looks like the heel-face revolving door will spin again 

[Cory Caboose]

I will resolve myself as I usually do, so I am an idiotic point of discussion

 

DISCUSS OTHER THINGS or prickly porcupine cory is going to emerge and nobody wants that

[Cory Caboose]

Or if you're inclined, AJ, make it a serious and stop your "subtle snipes" where I am actively discredited from being a villager despite your actual refusal to make any significant push on me

 

"I think Cory is a wolf but I won't push him" is not going to cut it for me, you're going to need to play better than that

 

Drop it completely or come @ me today, for real, as if you are a villager and you believe I am a wolf it is your job to make sure I am lynched
 

I refuse to be in a limbo where people aren't actively pushing me yet are actively discrediting my work. I don't play this game to see the fruits of my labor ignored, and I have a strong track record for making at least decent reads, so it's time to get realistic.

[Andrej]

All that looks like to me is that I'm trying to read people

 

If that's why I say as a wolf what do you think I would say differently as a villager?

 

I think I've been very objective in both cases, or as objective as I can be when someone makes a post that doesn't ring genuine to me

 

If you think I'm prepping some diabolic thunderdome, I don't know what to tell you, I don't plan on ever being a wagon this game so that thought makes zero sense to me

 

Diabolic thunderdome probably aren't the words I would use to describe the impression I get. It's more that you attack the accuser with reverse aggression.

 

 

We'll laugh about it and draw pictures together post game if I'm wrong.

 

I won't be laughing about it

 

Correct your read

 

Pretty much what I'm talking about.

[WWWwombat]

 

You trying to reverse pocket me?

 

Considering your thread catch-up I think I've already got you firmly in my corner

 

Which is okay, as this village has 10 houses and not all of them are occupied quite yet so you can take a loaner for awhile regardless of your alignment

 

 

Meh.  Nothing is really that firm on D1, but yeah, I'm not getting wolf vibes from you.

[Cory Caboose]

I'd actually expect town Cory to go harder after those people

 

If that's what you think about how I approach the game as a villager I have no idea what to tell you

 

Villagers read other villagers wrong pretty frequently, so someone thinking I am a wolf or wolfy doesn't make me go "well, I'm going to go hard at that person now since they are misreading me they must be a wolf"

 

Neither Clov or Verb is an optimal d1 lynch because they are strong villagers and it's very early into the game and I don't have the sincere ego to think I can read either one off a subset of posting I haven't even really began to think about, as my notepad is only filled up 'til about page 11.

[Cory Caboose]

 

Diabolic thunderdome probably aren't the words I would use to describe the impression I get. It's more that you attack the accuser with reverse aggression.

If that's why I say as a wolf what do you think I would say differently as a villager?

[Andrej]

Seems more like slight knee-jerk OMGUS to me.  I'd actually expect town Cory to go harder after those people, but given that he's been talking about trying to change his style for a while and that I haven't been playing much lately, I'm inclined to think that it's not alignment indicative.

 

Maybe. Like I've said I could just be projecting myself into the situation but the bite back tactic is something I would probably do more often as a wolf.

[Cory Caboose]

I think we were doing really well as a village unit until we decided to start doing DM Big Game Hunting

 

I think our win equity is slowly draining

[WWWwombat]

 

I'd actually expect town Cory to go harder after those people

 

If that's what you think about how I approach the game as a villager I have no idea what to tell you

 

Villagers read other villagers wrong pretty frequently, so someone thinking I am a wolf or wolfy doesn't make me go "well, I'm going to go hard at that person now since they are misreading me they must be a wolf"

 

Neither Clov or Verb is an optimal d1 lynch because they are strong villagers and it's very early into the game and I don't have the sincere ego to think I can read either one off a subset of posting I haven't even really began to think about, as my notepad is only filled up 'til about page 11.

 

 

Not about approach.  I just remember you used to get very upset when people would falsely suspect you.  A lot of my meta is probably a bit outdated atm though, so I'm tempering it.

[Nynaeve]

I think we were doing really well as a village unit until we decided to start doing DM Big Game Hunting

 

I think our win equity is slowly draining

 

Not if I have any say in the matter.

[Andrej]

Or if you're inclined, AJ, make it a serious and stop your "subtle snipes" where I am actively discredited from being a villager despite your actual refusal to make any significant push on me

 

"I think Cory is a wolf but I won't push him" is not going to cut it for me, you're going to need to play better than that

 

Drop it completely or come @ me today, for real, as if you are a villager and you believe I am a wolf it is your job to make sure I am lynched

 

I refuse to be in a limbo where people aren't actively pushing me yet are actively discrediting my work. I don't play this game to see the fruits of my labor ignored, and I have a strong track record for making at least decent reads, so it's time to get realistic.

 

See - this drawing a line in the sand thing you're doing here is why I am hesitant towards you this game. Much like you just said regarding others, you're not an optimal lynch D1 and frankly I want more time to get a grip on your alignment. I am doing my job by putting out my thoughts as they occur to me. If you dislike that you're the focus of them then all I can really tell you is too bad.

[Nynaeve]

 

Seems more like slight knee-jerk OMGUS to me.  I'd actually expect town Cory to go harder after those people, but given that he's been talking about trying to change his style for a while and that I haven't been playing much lately, I'm inclined to think that it's not alignment indicative.

 

Maybe. Like I've said I could just be projecting myself into the situation but the bite back tactic is something I would probably do more often as a wolf.

 

 

Meh

[Cory Caboose]

Not if I have any say in the matter.

 

[WWWwombat]

 

Seems more like slight knee-jerk OMGUS to me.  I'd actually expect town Cory to go harder after those people, but given that he's been talking about trying to change his style for a while and that I haven't been playing much lately, I'm inclined to think that it's not alignment indicative.

 

Maybe. Like I've said I could just be projecting myself into the situation but the bite back tactic is something I would probably do more often as a wolf.

 

 

You used to do it a lot as town early on though.  I got a lot of false scum reads on you before I figured it out.

[Cory Caboose]

See - this drawing a line in the sand thing you're doing here is why I am hesitant towards you this game. Much like you just said regarding others, you're not an optimal lynch D1 and frankly I want more time to get a grip on your alignment. I am doing my job by putting out my thoughts as they occur to me. If you dislike that you're the focus of them then all I can really tell you is too bad.

FOR THE LAST TIME:

 

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU EXPECT ME TO DO AS A WOLF

 

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO AS A VILLAGER?

[Cory Caboose]

Like how many times do I have to ask you the same question and have you respond with

"well, I don't like how you're doing this now"

 

FFS AJ

[Nynaeve]

See - this drawing a line in the sand thing you're doing here is why I am hesitant towards you this game. Much like you just said regarding others, you're not an optimal lynch D1 and frankly I want more time to get a grip on your alignment. I am doing my job by putting out my thoughts as they occur to me. If you dislike that you're the focus of them then all I can really tell you is too bad.

 

You say that as if this is the first time you've seen Cory react this way. I've seen him get frazzled and confrontational at being FoSed plenty of times.

[Cory Caboose]

Whatever

 

AJ is almost certainly a villager, so arguing with him is pointless

Leelou is a peeked villager

 

Pretty confident Kaylee, Nyn/Hallia, Darthe are all villagers too, so if I get one more it shouldn't be too hard to win this game

[Cory Caboose]

If I had to YOLO a sixth villager it would be Wombat, but don't hold me that read

[Nynaeve]

If I had to YOLO a sixth villager it would be Wombat, but don't hold me that read

 

I've personally liked his posts today 

[Andrej]

Cory - don't hate me because I have an innate mistrust towards you after some of our past games. Monstr's Mafia Mafia game specifically, which I think may have been the last one we were in together.

 

In my mind based on our experience together I know that your ranges overlap significantly and you would probably react (or appear to) in similar fashions. The issue I have here is that underlying it all I get the sense that you have some pent up aggression that doesn't coincide with my view of you as a villager. That is probably the best way I can describe it, honestly.

 

You state that I'm almost certainly a villager here, and I'm not ready to call you a wolf. But allow me the time I need to fully flesh out what I need with you because the last thing I want to do is derail your game if my suspicions are inaccurate.