A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Yates]

I fos'd you because you assumed things that weren't written. I'm nothing if not blatent when I have an opinion on something.

Is this something Sili, specifically, should know? Because it's not something I do.

[alannalynn]

It may just be me today, but my eyes are actually blurring trying to make sense of you all and it isn't working.  I'm going to have to wait for alot of people to die and stop cluttering the thread and I'll go from there.

The second part of this statement is anti-town.

 

 

I feel like I'm being called dense.

 

Shhhhh Darthe.

 

I'm getting frustrated with these arguments that go around in circles and have no conclusion because of stubbornness, it would be nice to get some viewpoints from some other people?

[Gabriel Kross]

I don't understand why someone who is new is less likely to ask about mechanics than someone who is more experienced. Seems to me it would be the opposite

 

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someone who is new is less likely to make grand scheme talks, if it had just been to ask about the multiball term which I must admit is a new term to me as well I wouldn't have questioned it. However he goes on to make other posts about mechanics and sounds a little too informed while doing so.

 

 

 

You're just being an ignorant blockhead if you're on my team.

 

You implied you didn't like it, that is actually what you happened. I believe the inconsistency along with your strawman response is scummy. It is not only obvious you dissaproved of me defending him, it is also obvious you approved of Eldrick's case on Pizza. It shows me you're not paying attention. The tinfoil that me and Eldrick are merely distancing doesn't make any sense to me and is horribly convenient for you. You literally don't have a good reason for having me as scum, and I'm not even sure you have a good reason why Eldrick is.

 

I have fos'd you because I interpreted something you said as inconsistent with something else you said, so it is important to me and it is important to you. What you have done so far is said I am ridiculous, put your blinders on, and said I am scum because I am ridiculous, and said it is not useful to explain why I am being ridiculous.

I fos'd you because you assumed things that weren't written. I'm nothing if not blatent when I have an opinion on something.

 

That is exactly what I'm talking about, and is exactly what you refuse to talk about or reconsider.

 

and I acknowledge that you made assumptions about my posts but only I know what I intend with my posts. If I had something to say I would have said it. plain and simple, since I didn't say it I had nothing to say.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

I fos'd you because you assumed things that weren't written. I'm nothing if not blatent when I have an opinion on something.

Is this something Sili, specifically, should know? Because it's not something I do.

 

not particularly, but there are several older DM players that can confirm if they so choose to

[Yates]

Okay, EP, let's chat for about 12 minutes.

 

Who are you voting right now, Sili?

[Niniel]

@Tina - how did you make that sort of mistake?

 

I feel like if you felt Sili's post was compelling enough to basically sheep you would've quoted the correct one. Now it appears to me that you just grabbed a random quote with someone voting another person (one of the main wagons atm, mind you) as a clean and easy way to hop on without adding any of your own input.

 

I think I was the first one to point out Zander´s vote. After I left, he and Sili made some posts and Sili´s post looked good so I quoted it and basically +1 it. For once I seem to understand what Sili is saying and agree with him. The reason for me picking the wrong quote is probably because I read the game a little a time and wrote down some posts to go back to or where to begin reading again. I just took the wrong one. Had a buissy morning. I´ll go back and see if I can find all of the quotes in the right order. For the record - I´m still suspicious of Zander and I don´t like his "I´m an easy target" - defence. 

 

Also aj I would say go for it but I have a history of misreading tina

 

I don't even know where to begin irt reading her and I think she feels similarly toward me if she's a villager

 

Yes. You are one of the players that I just can´t figure out. I don´t understand how you think most of the time. I´m not sure how many games we have played now, 3 perhaps? 

 

Did anybody find me scummy?  I bet Tina at least voted me once, if not more.

 

Of course! 

 

 

Also aj I would say go for it but I have a history of misreading tina

 

I don't even know where to begin irt reading her and I think she feels similarly toward me if she's a villager

 

I can read her! Usually. 

 

 

Yes, you usually read me pretty good and I can often read you good as well. I think you read me better than me you though. 

 

 

Also aj I would say go for it but I have a history of misreading tina

 

I don't even know where to begin irt reading her and I think she feels similarly toward me if she's a villager

I've been on to her fairly quickly the last two games we played where she was scum and I was a villager. Not claiming to be a GOAT Tina reader but that misquoted sheep vote doesn't look good to me

 

 

See above. I will go and find the right quotes. 

 

 

 

 

Last VC only has Tina voting me (I may have missed others after so please let me know. im trying to keep as current as i can at this point)

 

I thought it was weak to be honest..i seemed like "the easy no effort concenus pick". She pegged me wolfy in the other game we played as well when i was town.

I forgot that Pizza had moved his vote to someone else. Sili had voted you earlier as well but changed to EP this last night/this morning. I haven't really paid a lot of attention to the VCs so far but I felt like there were votes on you. I remember you being mentioned a lot at some point so even without the votes Tina still looks like she's going for a soft target imo.

 

I also agree with your assessment of the vote. Feels low effort to me and like she legit just fumbled the ball trying to squeak into the end zone unnoticed.

 

What was her alignment in the last game you're talking about? Does that have any affect on your read here?

 

She was Town.  No it doesn't affect my read now because i still think it was the weak, popular thing to do.  not ready to vote her a  wolf yet but her misquote does stand out to me and i can say shes leaning in the wrong direction.

 

 

I was the first one to point out your post and I don´t like your "it´s so easy to vote me" defense. 

 

It may just be me today, but my eyes are actually blurring trying to make sense of you all and it isn't working.  I'm going to have to wait for alot of people to die and stop cluttering the thread and I'll go from there.

 

I feel the same way. :D

[Yates]

EBWOP - or still Seph?

[Talya]

Signing in...

 

Well seems like today is my day. one of my favorite themes starts and im not at work  awesome!

 

Do you aj, and you tress use the same opening posts every game? Lol

 

Well I know AJ doesnt cause this one isnt gonna get me trying to lynch him.

 

 

Vote:Talya    welcome back hun!

 

Thank you sweetie, nice to feel wanted!

 

Now down to a bit of business. I don't know many of you hear, probably more than I do know, and I haven't played for a while. So I will just go on what I see here. 

 

First Sili's vote on Seth: I found this a little off, he had a wall of posts from Seth and all of it seemed like fluff (spam at the beginning of a game), at that early on in the game it was like grasping at straws. 

 

There now seems to be a spat between EP and Sili. From the first it seemed to be about EP saying he wasn't doing much until the game really got going, I didn't find this statement as scummy...it was the norm when I played before, things really didn't get going until most people had posted. It seemed to escalate there between, after EP's recent post accusing Sili and Eld for distancing, I felt that this was more likely to be EP and Sili. At the moment if I have to choose one of them, Sili seems more scummy to me at present. 

 

Hi guys. I'm a villager and i have exactly two reads right Now

Sili is probably a villager but I might try getting at him out of spite for voting me every game for no reason.

Based on my perception of seph'sseph's villager/wolf games he flips villager here way more often than he flips wolf

#hotreads

 

Didn't particularly like this post, came in with he was town and that he thought someone else was. If you think someone is town, fine say your reason, but putting you are in there as well..trying too hard maybe. 

 

There's a good chance EP is mafia after failing to connect his reads. First he approves of Eldrick's case on Pizza, expresses a desire for Pizza to respond in his own words, and doesn't like me defending Pizza, and then he says he's suspicious of Eldrick.

 

His read on me and Pizza, and his approval of Eldrick's case on Pizza is disharmonious with his scum read of Eldrick. He both has a town read of Eldrick, and a scum read of Eldrick. It can't be both, so he's faking his reads, and so I'm sticking my vote on EP over Zanders at eod.

 

Cheers.

 

The bolded bit: grasping at straws, even someone who is mafia can have good points, doesn't mean you think they are town. 

 

At the moment

 

VOTE SILI

[Gabriel Kross]

Okay, EP, let's chat for about 12 minutes.

 

Who are you voting right now, Sili?

it should still be Seph.

 

 

Also @Sili in a previous game I've had 2 mafia teamates take the opposite sides of a single conversation, it's called distancing. It wasn't something I was even considering could have been happening because I had no read on you at the time. However with how sure of himself Eld is and how you came to Pizza's defense, basing on my current read of you, I feel you set the whole thing up.

 

Town reads on:

Pizza

Zander

 

not town reads on:

Sili

Eld

Hallia

 

No freaking clue on:

Verbal. (GET READING!)

Hallia should be Seph in this list I'm starting to mix up games. :/

[Leelou]

Hallia should be Seph in this list I'm starting to mix up games. :/

 

 

That's why you should only play one at a time. :p

[Yates]

it should still be Seph.

Ok. Would you please remind me why you are voting for Seph? Just a quick bullet point deal would be stellar. Thanks!

[Leelou]

Hi Tina! 

 

I have time so I'm going to go read your posts now, am I going to find anything? <3

[Yates]

That's why you should only play one at a time. :p

I've done just fine with multiples before...

[Leelou]

 

That's why you should only play one at a time. :p

I've done just fine with multiples before...

 

 

I'm not asking about your love life. 

[Sili Quirrels]

I'm pretty wiped so I'm dropping out for a bit.

[Sili Quirrels]

Didn't particularly like this post, came in with he was town and that he thought someone else was. If you think someone is town, fine say your reason, but putting you are in there as well..trying too hard maybe.

 

~ You're trying too hard ~

[John Snow]

Terribly sorry guys. 

 

I had a busy Sunday, and wasn't expecting this and AH's game to start in so close proximity. 

 

Tried to catch up yesterday and the words turned to mush. 

 

Reading the thread now. 

[Gabriel Kross]

 

it should still be Seph.

Ok. Would you please remind me why you are voting for Seph? Just a quick bullet point deal would be stellar. Thanks!

 

1: his reach of trying to make something out of my check in post

2: his singling myself out for "floating" when others were also doing so

 

^ those are the main 2 reasons though I added another as the talks continued about how he was ignoring everything else that was going on, which reminds me not long after that post the thunderdome comment came out.

 

and before you ask no number 2 is not the same as how I found Eld suspicious I had a specific criteria for singling Eld out.

[Talya]

One more point...I don't want to read 27 pages tomorrow...my eyes have now gone funny!

[Leelou]

Thoughts on Tina: 

 

1. voted Verbal - not unusual, but didn't actually say anything about him (i.e. his animal magnetism). Thinks Sili is town. 

2. first to mention Zander, waits until later to vote him. I don't really find her misquoting indicative of her scum game. I think AJ is jumping the gun here. 

[Leelou]

One more point...I don't want to read 27 pages tomorrow...my eyes have now gone funny!

 

HI!!!

[Gabriel Kross]

 

That's why you should only play one at a time. :p

I've done just fine with multiples before...

 

so have I but it's my first time playing in over 2 years so maybe it would have been better to stick to 1. Regardless I wasn't expecting them both to start at the same time.

[alannalynn]

 

 

it should still be Seph.

Ok. Would you please remind me why you are voting for Seph? Just a quick bullet point deal would be stellar. Thanks!

 

1: his reach of trying to make something out of my check in post

2: his singling myself out for "floating" when others were also doing so

 

^ those are the main 2 reasons though I added another as the talks continued about how he was ignoring everything else that was going on, which reminds me not long after that post the thunderdome comment came out.

 

and before you ask no number 2 is not the same as how I found Eld suspicious I had a specific criteria for singling Eld out

 

What exactly was this criteria? I understand he hasn't played in a while, but neither have you. I also understand that the "speculation" he was making was not nearly as in depth as others (Yates, Pizza) were making. I feel like you're being particularly tunnely all around.

[Sili Quirrels]

someone who is new is less likely to make grand scheme talks, if it had just been to ask about the multiball term which I must admit is a new term to me as well I wouldn't have questioned it. However he goes on to make other posts about mechanics and sounds a little too informed while doing so.

 

 

I think when you're new you try to understand game balance and set ups more; it's an easy topic. But if Eldrick is informed enough to speak knowledgeably I think that should mean he's not as new as you thought he was.

 

Eldrick told you he's modded games. Doesn't that tell you anything about his experience level?

[Niniel]

Okay, so here are the chain. 

 

1. Sooh votes Pizza as a welcome post.

 

Good morning everyone!

 

[v]Pizza[/v] 

 

Welcome to the game

 

 

2. She changes her vote to Eldrick.

 

[unvote]  [v]Eldrick[/v] for spamming

 

3. And she unvotes.

 

Nah... so far the only thing that stands out is your half claim in your first post in the game. 

 

I usually take a while to figure people out... 

 

Also [unvote]

 

4. Yates fos Sooh.

 

 

[unvote]  [v]Eldrick[/v] for spamming

Sooh... Your entry has been kinda wolfy.

FoS: Sooh

 

 

5. Hally vote Sooh.

 

POOTALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

 

 

Vote: Sooh

 

 

Tell your mentor I love him

 

6. Laine fos Sooh. Why do I quote all of these posts? Just to show that people were recently voting or fosing Sooh. 

 

Thanks Darthe for the name change!

 

Hi.  I don't know Alot of you, and only recognize pupil Zander, SiliSquirrel whom I have forced relations upon (gotta keep it pg-13 here I'm told), and Half of Batman and Cassowary.  Oh, and Sooh I guess.

Just sayin'

 

 

Gonna Vote Andrej  though.Traitor name stealer

Forever lanna....

Love to the Underwoods.

Hello

 

 

Hi.  I don't know Alot of you, and only recognize pupil Zander, SiliSquirrel whom I have forced relations upon (gotta keep it pg-13 here I'm told), and Half of Batman and Cassowary.  Oh, and Sooh I guess.

To steal a line from the REAL AJ [and not his female AJ impersonator]:

*grunts*

 

Um, I was here first. I retract my hello.

 

FoS Sooh... Sooh is jumping around a hella lot on votes. Seph also jumps around a little mentally, but from what I read in the last game he was in, this is pretty normal. Someone is also gonna have to help me not confuse names on these two.

 

Not entirely fond of the Eldrick/Sili exchange either, it felt a little weird to me, but I'm sure that's just a bit of a love affair gone wrong.

 

 

7. Then Zander enters with a quick vote, without reason. It totally looks like a bandwagon vote. For ones he doesn´t give a reason and second he doesn´t comment on anyone else.

 

Sooh even though you gave a reasom for your voting...i dont like it...

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Hello and Happy Mother's Day to all the mother's here!!

 

8. I was wrong. I was not the first one to point it out. Sili posted a smiley at it. 

 

 

Sooh even though you gave a reasom for your voting...i dont like it...

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Hello and Happy Mother's Day to all the mother's here!!

 

 

9. But then I got on and posted why I didn´t like his post. Then I leaved. 

 

 

Sooh even though you gave a reasom for your voting...i dont like it...

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Hello and Happy Mother's Day to all the mother's here!!

 

This vote doesn´t look good. You are voting the person that has been talked about lately but not stating a real reason. 

 

 

10. Here I don´t get an explanation. It´s because of a feeling. 

 

 

 

Sooh even though you gave a reasom for your voting...i dont like it...

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Hello and Happy Mother's Day to all the mother's here!!

 

This vote doesn´t look good. You are voting the person that has been talked about lately but not stating a real reason. 

 

 

its a feeling hence why i said i didnt like it,  its early and things can change.  not gonna fret or worry about throwing my vote out to my gut feel this early in the game.

 

 

11. Sili questions him.

 

 

 

 

Sooh even though you gave a reasom for your voting...i dont like it...

 

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

Hello and Happy Mother's Day to all the mother's here!!

 

This vote doesn´t look good. You are voting the person that has been talked about lately but not stating a real reason. 

 

 

its a feeling hence why i said i didnt like it,  its early and things can change.  not gonna fret or worry about throwing my vote out to my gut feel this early in the game.

 

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