A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Leelou]

 

This is the quote AH provided when I asked her where she got the WK - 2x voter read from.

 

Read it for yourself and tell me if you see anywhere in there something that looks like a hint or soft claim, because I see none.

Checked:

 

So there's no one willing to help out with a game summary. That's interesting. I don't like Andrej's response to my arrival at all - a Villager would have been eager to help me adjust to the game, not immediately swing at low-hanging fruit who is only being voted near as I can tell for not being here. Why vote me as soon as I sub in and show up? That's a wolf greet. But yeah, I could see where a wolf might be as eager to seem helpful as a Villager. It's somewhat surprising no one offered to help.

 

Without seeing more from Aiel in the interim, and with no other votes currently on Andrej, I'll hang with Pizza on [v]Eternal Phoenix2[/v].

 

What's the case on Tina, please.

Vote Eternal Phoenix "x2"

 

Seems pretty clear, not sure what the confusion is.

 

 

 

I took that as a Vote EP version 2. 

 

Look again closer - there is only one x in Phoenix. 

[Andrej]

Yeah - it's not x2 though. It's Eternal Phoenix2 as in: EP2 - not x2.

 

Even so, seems a stretch. What are the odds she notices this tiny bit and happens to be right?

[Hallia]

So there's no one willing to help out with a game summary. That's interesting. I don't like Andrej's response to my arrival at all - a Villager would have been eager to help me adjust to the game, not immediately swing at low-hanging fruit who is only being voted near as I can tell for not being here. Why vote me as soon as I sub in and show up? That's a wolf greet. But yeah, I could see where a wolf might be as eager to seem helpful as a Villager. It's somewhat surprising no one offered to help.

 

Without seeing more from Aiel in the interim, and with no other votes currently on Andrej, I'll hang with Pizza on [v]Eternal Phoenix2[/v].

 

What's the case on Tina, please.

Aha!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Should I be taking this as the conceding that it sounds like?

That idea forms if you miss a lot of context, I suppose.

[White Knight]

Pretty sure AH just outed you as her partner WK, but please, continue pressing me.

I have a beard too, oh fluffy one.

 

If you think AH outed me as her partner, then why on Earth would I out and say she was wrong about my role. Don't you think thoroughly knowing a Scum partner's role and how it works is a thing Scum would be sure of? 

 

No, it looks more like it was half-communicated to her through a Scum investigative role of some type - probably a Scum Role Cop. 

[Leelou]

ALSO, no where in the vc does it indicate a second vote: 

 

 

Had to really scour to make sure I got this right.  My ctrl + f isn't working for some reason.  Sorry if it's off, I'm counting the votes thus:

 

Official Vote Count
 
Hallia (2/9): Seph, Laine
Dicetosser1 (1/9): Sooh
White Knight (1/9): Eternal Phoenix
Eternal Phoenix (4/9): Pizza, WK, Tina, Cass
TinaHel (7/9): Leelou, Thane, Dice, AJ, Yates, Hallia, Talya
 
Not Voting (2/17):
Aiel Heart, Krak
 
With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.  Deadline is at 12:15 PM on May 19th, 2015.

 

Scene incoming

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah - it's not x2 though. It's Eternal Phoenix2 as in: EP2 - not x2.

 

Even so, seems a stretch. What are the odds she notices this tiny bit and happens to be right?

I misread it exactly the same way, though. "x2" regardless of a lack of there being an "xx2".

[Gabriel Kross]

I blocked Eternal Phoenix last night, and I also blocked Tallia. I don't know if I was successful, but only one kill....

 

Now finish him.

 

Vote: Eternal Phoenix.

 

You howling wolf.... don't you EVER threaten us with meta arguments ever again. Play the game, not the players.

 

Justice will be served.... hot.... and fresh.... or this pizza's on the house.

 

 

Hallia's claim means she's getting murdered if her claim is real.

 

That's a fact, especially with a multiball.

 

I cannot protect her so she is a murder target now.

 

If she's a wolf, we'll know, because I'm going to investigate her while she protects me.

 

There's no way she can survive this game now as a wolf.

 

And should I be blocked again, and she is not murdered, I will be lynching her.

 

The wolves can block her and kill me, but I think I stopped that from happening last night with my block targets.

 

 

Andrej, Leelou, you guys are my other top villagers at the moment.

 

Assume EP is scum, please help me find his partners.

 

You'll have literally all night to check for alternative ideas if I'm wrong. And if I am wrong, Hallia is likely scum, so analyze her as well, please. Look for partner interactions.

 

I need to get some actual rest, but I only work 3 hours or so tonight. I will be here.

 

I'm ready to put in the heavy lifting and solve it today. Today is the only day that matters, we lynch a wolf today or cross our fingers that a mafia war puts us back in the game.

 

 

Oh, I have seen something EP wasn't get rid of all the women in the game - worth stringing up just for that!!

Actually if you look my list has Seph and WK in it.

 

 

Why dice over sooh pizza?If you want those wagons I would vote ep.

I believe dice is town so I won't be casting my vote there.

I feel better about ep from his frustration posts, it moved him up on the tbl list, but not out of it.

I am willing to wait until morning, but I wanted to let you know where I stood.

Bad post, Seph.

 

I already said why dice, you're not paying attention.

 

You didn't say why you believe dice is town.

 

EP's posts are howling posts, you shouldn't feel he's a villager based on his terribly wolfy game since replacing in.

 

Where you stand is on shaky ground and I'm considering you next for my copping.

 

 

 

EP on Team 1 or Team 3 right now? Never team 2.

 

 

Remove EP, Sooh can go later.

 

Meanwhile, Dice and AH are total wolves with a side of Seph possibly.

 

Even them out and village wins. Don't give one team a great advantage.

 

 

Alot of Phoenix is the single best vote village can have, see yesterday, wolves did not want to lynch EP.

 

Thats the village-stays-in-the-game vote. Trapsing too far from that idea today will result in a wolf maj and a village loss.

 

Then we can watch as they murder each other off, but only by the grace of their own self-destruction could we ever win at that point.

 

We have the initiative today, we lose it with one error. We need to maintain initiative.

 

you've been wrong the entire time. You're trying to play follow the pizza and you're going to cause town to lose.

 

 

 

Team 1 - I would be thinking : Tina, Cass, Dice and another? AH/Sooh

 

@WK - The double voter was Leelou, on the Gladiator vote, she activated it/it was activated which meant she had two votes and put them both on Verb. I have only ever seen a double voter as Mafia, but they were always hidden, people could guess, but Leelou's was out in the open from the off. This is reason I tend to think town, rahter than wolfie.

 

Well, one thing that seems sure to me, that Pizza is acknowledging, is that the Village still hangs on a knife - today requires unity. Our only hope is for the wolves/mafia to target each other. As my ability will become apparent today, I'll go ahead and half-out. And, yes, I know half-outing is often a bad strategy. I may or may not have two particular votes today, and it will become apparent if activated in the count. I'm still debating with myself on revealing more, as my action can affect either Village or Mafia voting. Let's just say I need Village help in making sure I pick a right target. 

 

And, yes, once the vote reveal is clarified in an official vote count, Scum will be able to adjust to it according as they need. I probably have already given them too much information with which to work.

 

 

so you are a double voter...I need to go and read AH or you are both on a team.

 

No, not a double voter, a vote thief of a sort. I have already chosen a player whose vote is mine today, to place where I will. 

 

That is a mafia role end of story. Good thing you are already on my list.

[Gabriel Kross]

[v]Sooh[/v]

[Leelou]

 

 Okay, but look at this from my perspective. I know I'm town and a double voter, why would there be a town vote thief as well? 

 

 

The better question is what to do with the votes I have? If I have your double votes, that's a very critical matter, huh? 

 

 

I hope for your sake that you stole scum's votes. If you took my vote then that will cement you as scum in my book. 

[Hallia]

My thunder! You stole my thunder! ; . ;

 

Stupid mobile

[Hallia]

I saw and thought the same thing

[Gabriel Kross]

I don't like that Pizza tries to push that roles don't reflect alignment. Yet the whole reason Tina was lynched was her Nexus role. Vote Thief IS a mafia aligned rolePizza detracting from that is highly suspect.

[Andrej]

 

Pretty sure AH just outed you as her partner WK, but please, continue pressing me.

 

I have a beard too, oh fluffy one.

 

If you think AH outed me as her partner, then why on Earth would I out and say she was wrong about my role. Don't you think thoroughly knowing a Scum partner's role and how it works is a thing Scum would be sure of? 

 

No, it looks more like it was half-communicated to her through a Scum investigative role of some type - probably a Scum Role Cop. 

Lynch her with me then.

 

[unvote] 

 

[v]Aiel Heart[/v]

[Leelou]

So we have Heart, Pizza and Hallia misreading that same post. 

[Talya]

 

 

Oh, I have seen something EP wasn't get rid of all the women in the game - worth stringing up just for that!!

Actually if you look my list has Seph and WK in it.

 

 

 

 

 

I was reading through your posts and it was before that one...now it has men in it, I grant you, but it was for fun!

[Gabriel Kross]

 

 

Pretty sure AH just outed you as her partner WK, but please, continue pressing me.

 

I have a beard too, oh fluffy one.

 

If you think AH outed me as her partner, then why on Earth would I out and say she was wrong about my role. Don't you think thoroughly knowing a Scum partner's role and how it works is a thing Scum would be sure of? 

 

No, it looks more like it was half-communicated to her through a Scum investigative role of some type - probably a Scum Role Cop. 

Lynch her with me then.

 

[unvote] 

 

[v]Aiel Heart[/v]

 

I'm willing to go here AH is on my list. Which do you prefer AH or Sooh right now?

[Talya]

I don't like that Pizza tries to push that roles don't reflect alignment. Yet the whole reason Tina was lynched was her Nexus role. Vote Thief IS a mafia aligned rolePizza detracting from that is highly suspect.

 

On Wiki it says it's mostly town, but who knows with Darthe

[Andrej]

So we have Heart, Pizza and Hallia misreading that same post. 

 

Weird, right?

 

I mean with AH saying that, White Knight is more or less forced to claim at this point because of how much it stuck out. What are the odds of her actually being correct in that situation without a hint of TMI?

[Gabriel Kross]

 

I don't like that Pizza tries to push that roles don't reflect alignment. Yet the whole reason Tina was lynched was her Nexus role. Vote Thief IS a mafia aligned rolePizza detracting from that is highly suspect.

 

On Wiki it says it's mostly town, but who knows with Darthe

 

I've only ever seen it as a mafia role here on DM

[Gabriel Kross]

AJ answer my question!

[Andrej]

 

Yeah - it's not x2 though. It's Eternal Phoenix2 as in: EP2 - not x2.

 

Even so, seems a stretch. What are the odds she notices this tiny bit and happens to be right?

I misread it exactly the same way, though. "x2" regardless of a lack of there being an "xx2".

 

Yeah, I'm not buying that. White Knight has also acknowledged that this wasn't a claim - so?

 

It really pushes my boundaries of belief to think she sees this, makes that sort of connection, and then is correct on it the following phase.

[White Knight]

Sooh (3/8): dicetosser1, Hallia, EP2

Cass (0/8): Talya

Eternal Phoenix2 (2/8): Askthepizzaguy, Talya, Andrej, Talya

dicetosser1 (1/8) Sooh

Aiel Heart (1/8): Andrej

[Andrej]

@EP - I don't really care. You all look scummy in my eyes but AH is my current focus because it seems she slipped and now people are rushing to her defense. Wolf PR anyone?

[White Knight]

You guys are spooky is what.