[Advanced] Arthurian Mafia

[Darthe]

A lot of people have figured out that I am a townie. Thats partially clear.

[Sili Quirrels]

re leelou   before I got to her post i was already thinking that her and nyn were possibilitys. Nyn because of her tunnel. I get that she tends not to let go once she wants someone gone but her posts are snipey and feel almost perfuntionary. like shes stuck with it now.

 

 

leelou's problem for me is A) I cant really remember her in this game. I know she's posted but i cant remember what she said. thats not something i associate with town leelou. Then theres the fact that verb died early. I know verb has said in the past that its hard for him to be mafia when leelou is town and he has spotted her pretty quick in some games. Killing him early would take out the biggest threat to her.  And then theres that sudden im lynching dice or eldrick. She hasnt mentioned me at all this game i dont think up til then.

 

and yes i know this isnt exactly backed up with facts but thats my thinking.

It could be leelou. But leelou also rarely says anything and it's how she plays, and I imagine she prefers it that way because it improves her wolf range.

[Sili Quirrels]

A lot of people have figured out that I am a townie. Thats partially clear.

why do they think you're town?

[Sili Quirrels]

and why do you think they're town?

[dicetosser1]

I disagree. We don't know your alignment, and we can't let you get to true lylo (4-3-1) even if you're the survivor. If you're there it is to your win condition to let the wolves win.

 

Am I wrong in this?

Yes. You are.

 

My wincon is to SURVIVE. I am more then happy   and i think ive shown that   to help town win.  I doubt mafia would let me get to the end for the same reason you are spouting and because i have openly said im willing to help town

 

And if you haven't figured out my alignment is what i told you by a) my full claim which wasnt neccesary. Remember I just fessed up when clov said something. I think i was the first reply after he said it even. there was no pressure on me. or b) my play then your biased or not reading the thread. Cop viewing me would settle it but would also be a waste of a cop view. It would be better spent viewing someone looking for mafia which i am not.

[Alanna]

Dawn will be replacing Nyn. I can't send her role PM until I get home, so she will not be posting yet.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

I disagree. We don't know your alignment, and we can't let you get to true lylo (4-3-1) even if you're the survivor. If you're there it is to your win condition to let the wolves win.

 

Am I wrong in this?

Yes. You are.

 

My wincon is to SURVIVE. I am more then happy   and i think ive shown that   to help town win.  I doubt mafia would let me get to the end for the same reason you are spouting and because i have openly said im willing to help town

 

And if you haven't figured out my alignment is what i told you by a) my full claim which wasnt neccesary. Remember I just fessed up when clov said something. I think i was the first reply after he said it even. there was no pressure on me. or b) my play then your biased or not reading the thread. Cop viewing me would settle it but would also be a waste of a cop view. It would be better spent viewing someone looking for mafia which i am not.

 

Lynching a wolf at lylo by your own implicit admission is sub-optimal. Since every night is the night you might die, your best opportunity to win the game is to get to day 4 with 3 town and 3 scum and help scum lynch a villager.

 

 

There's something I don't understand about your claim. Why would someone want to cc you?

[Sili Quirrels]

Leelou looks good in iso. I don't think she's a wolf.

[Leelou]

Leelou looks good in iso. I don't think she's a wolf.

I'm not. We lynch Dice in the morning, next day Eldrick.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Leelou looks good in iso. I don't think she's a wolf.

I'm not. We lynch Dice in the morning, next day Eldrick.

 

Can I get your reasons on paper?

[Leelou]

 

 

 

Leelou looks good in iso. I don't think she's a wolf.

I'm not. We lynch Dice in the morning, next day Eldrick.

Can I get your reasons on paper?

Dice is too swingy as survivor. I haven't really liked any of Eldricks posts. On my way out to dinner so I don't have time to pick any up.

[Leelou]

 

 

 

Leelou looks good in iso. I don't think she's a wolf.

I'm not. We lynch Dice in the morning, next day Eldrick.

Can I get your reasons on paper?

[Leelou]

Sorry phone double posted

[Leelou]

Or wait. Reverse that. Eldrick first then dice.

[Darthe]

Or wait. Reverse that. Eldrick first then dice.

If you were deadset on lynching both then this order makes no sense.

 

I dont want to but lynching dice is probably the safe play for tomorrow if we dont *have* to catch scum.

 

Cab we talk about optimal cop play here? I think they may be forced to reveal tomorrow or the next day.

[Clovdyx]

Normally I'm opposed to copping my top suspects and investigate in my lynchable null pile.  Right now, that would be Leelou/Yates/Thane for me.  I would probably take Thane out just because I don't think you get as much information from his content if he turns up mafia compared to the other two.

 

However, as we're basically facing LYLO, I'd probably disregard that and check whoever I feel is the most likely to be lynched tomorrow (assuming I didn't peek them N1).  

[Darthe]

 

 

A lot of people have figured out that I am a townie. Thats partially clear.

why do they think you're town?

Im taking constant heavy risks with my life under the assumption that they will pay out. If they dont then I am screwed and likely my team with me. Certainly that could be scum play but uts doubtful. Combined with my earnestness and all of the scummy things im not doing that would give away mafia in this position it is almost impossible to objectively think me mafia anymore.

 

Mrs clov is obvious. Dice is likely honest about being a survivor baeed on my read. If the other trains were mostly townies my train is more likely to have a lot of scum on it (another thing making me likely town) so it makes the people who have trusted me more trustworthy by proxy. I am not going to rely on that but it's a lead and worth consdiering.

 

Similarly clov makes the most sense as a deep wolf unless you think that two trains were all town this game.

[Sili Quirrels]

So in other words they think you're twtbaw, but that's not the same thing as clearing you, and far from a partial clear. If you're town, you're a liability. Your game is too easy to play as a wolf.

 

But I guess I could be tunneling because you piss me off. It is hard to tell right now.

[Sili Quirrels]

What makes you think the people who are 'clearing' you are town?

[Clovdyx]

So in other words they think you're twtbaw, but that's not the same thing as clearing you, and far from a partial clear. If you're town, you're a liability. Your game is too easy to play as a wolf.

 

But I guess I could be tunneling because you piss me off. It is hard to tell right now.

 

I don't think that's what he was conveying.  

[Eldrick4221]

Happy birthday Leelou!

[Sili Quirrels]

Then what is meant by risky plays?

[Darthe]

Not remotely. Every gambler, risk taker and unorthadox player in mafia wpuld be twtbaw if that were the case. Playing against what is commonly most efficient is essentially always a risk and thats what Ive done (once) in this game. The rest has been normal

[Darthe]

Well, the rest has been blown out of proportion by verb, nyn and later you after one of the less explicable 180s of our time but ya know, normal in the sense that ive only stuck my neck out once.

 

Pretty much everyone else was a bandwagoner.

[Sili Quirrels]

I don't think that's the only reason to vote you. I think that's a pretty severe reduction actually.