[Advanced] The Scouring of the Shire - Game Over

[Nolder]

Votecount

Red - Wom (1)

Krak - Red (1)

Sili - Crusher (1)

Yates - Arsis, Krak (2)

 

With 12 players alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, 7PM PST.

 

 

 

[Pralaya]

Deadline is today? lol

[Pralaya]

[v]krak[/v]

 

His Yates vote is out of nowhere. Also, he has some weird posts asking sili, combat why they are "voicing on the thread". Looks kind of forced.

[The Crusher]

Sili feels like town here. Plays a bit scummy and rash when he is town and that is somewhat what we see here.

Crusher's vote on Sili seems weird. i can totally understand if he has not played with Sili, but if he has and has seen Sili post before, then I think it is a bit opportunistic\\

 

Tina aggressive in the beginning looks good for her. 

 

Not very sure why a couple of people are suspecting Red here. I don't see the "hedging" in his post.

 

Yates seemed to try too hard to play how he plays as town initially. His later posts are more free and natural.

 

 

That is what I have so far

 

(Good, slow game :))

Your face seems weird.  almost snakelike.  LOL

 

Don;t remember if Sil and I have played together.  Oppurtunistic?  Day 1 first vote?  Is that even possible?  I say no.

 

 

unvote vote snakeface

[Nynaeve]

Sili feels like town here. Plays a bit scummy and rash when he is town and that is somewhat what we see here.

 

Sili is scummy as scum as well. 

[Nynaeve]

Tina aggressive in the beginning looks good for her. 

 

Not very sure why a couple of people are suspecting Red here. I don't see the "hedging" in his post.

 

Kinda contradictory here. On one hand you're giving Tina brownie points for being aggressive... but what she was aggressive about was Red, which you're saying you 'don't get' and disagree with people's suspicion of her.

 

Eh.

[Nynaeve]

Yates seemed to try too hard to play how he plays as town initially. His later posts are more free and natural.

 

I disagree. I don't see a shift in his play. He's been playing the same so far, being kinda aggro. Not sure what to make of it yet.

[Nynaeve]

[v]pral[/v]

 

When you don't make sense it's usually a bad sign.

[Red2111]

7 hours until deadline

 

Arsis, Yates or Sili (not in that order) is the way to go today imo.

 

yates vs Arsis needs to be sorted out imo  but i'm not willing to touch that today as night could possibly give us the answers we need

 

Sili is pinging the gut and is, right now, my heaviest scum lean  [v]Sili[/v]

 

 

the list

 

lock clear

 

nada

 

town lean

nadda

 

Null

 

Alanna - nothing worth judging

Pralaya - on his meta, null and tbd

Crusher - tbd

Zashara - tbd

Krak - tbd

Nyn - on her meta, so tbd

Tina - attempt to start the game gives her town points, but the way she went about it and what she latched onto came off as antagonistic, opportunistic and not designed to scum hunt.  ie: jump start for sake of jump start without any true scum hunting involved.   also worth noting is her eagerness to get the game started (by pushing on a joke vote), but tunneling in on me while lacking comment on Yates, Sili and Arsis.

Wombat - on his meta, slight town lean, but tbd

 

 

Pre-Scum Salad

 

Yates - on his meta, his antics make my scumdar ping cause the way he's going about this feels more antagonistic rather than helpful for scum hunting.  tbd with a tentative scum lean but not enough to push on imo

Arsis - for the out of left field vote on Yates with no reason and the rest of his posts ping imo

Sili - 

 

 

 

 

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Q&A

 

 

 

no easy scum leans yet. kind of concerned krak voted me to bury his vote but i'll need more content

 

two things ping on this. 

 

1st it sounds forced, like your trying to appear as scum hunting and felt the need to post something game related that wasn't spam.

 

2nd is the "bury his vote on me" comment ....  it just doesn't sit right imo.  i can't place my finger on it, or describe why, but my gut doesn't like it

 

 

 

 

<3 womby & nyn & alanna & tina & yates


Not sure if Yates trying to be Yates or trying to hide behind meta
 

Who is eating who?

Loaded question imo

 

 

<3 you too.

 

Hedge much tho?

 

[v]Red[/v]

 

 

how is commenting on the obvious hedging.  and another poster said the same in regards to Yates, yet you ignored their comment.  still have a town lean on you but PoI for your selectiveness in this issue.

 

 

[v]Yates[/v]

 

why??

 

 

 

 

I eat 6 meals for breakfast

1. Semen doesn't count as a "meal."
2. You should probably stop voting for the Shirriff.

Just saying.

Yes, it does.

No, you're not.

 

 

CC?

 

 

 

The Lady doth protest too much

Yeah but...

If I *were* hiding behind meta, how would that be alignment indicative to you, though?

I mean, specifically?

 

 

the act itself isn't, but the motive behind it is.

 

ie: its not what you're doing, but how you're doing it

 

 

 

Scum must be skerd of just my presence to try running up a wagon like this on.

For reals tho, been like 6mos since I played and bull dog won't be bulldogged into bull dogging. PM Mr she the real gam play starts with a legit wagon and Yates stops with his obv baiting

 

Ehm... I think something is wrong with this or I´m just too tired to understand it. 

 

The fact is that you voted Krak but didn´t bother that he never commented on that.¹ Then you never commented on my post about you.² And now you don´t want to talk about it but get stuck on the word bulldog.³

 

And does the last sentence mean that we don´t have any real game play before we get a wagon? I don´t agree.⁴

 

1 - did you really take my vote on Krak and reason to be legit and not a joke?  if you did take it as a joke, then whats up with this push

 

2 - cause i wanted to see where it led.

 

3 - no i'm commenting on the "this isn't how i recall Red playing"  IE your pointing out that i'm not playing to my old meta.  i was commenting on this and that it felt like you were trying to build a case on me based on meta.

 

4 - no.  it means that theres been nothing really legit to case so far and the only real thing worth of note is yates antagonistic baiting (which is null at this point)

 

 

I´m interested in you because I noticed something that I thought were worth looking into.¹ (We are on page 5 so not much have happened so far.) You voted someone that never responded and you didn´t notice that.²

 

You don´t think you would find mafia by questioning Krak? How is that? Do you know that he is not mafia?³

 

I´m not eager to see you lynched (as you can see I´m not even voting you).⁴  I´m posting my thoughts. 

 

1 - and i'm interested why you latched onto a joke vote as your reason to push.  if you wanted to get the game going, why not build off of Yates?

 

2 - just because i dont respond doesn't mean i dont notice it.  and why should krak feel the need to respond to a joke vote.  i asked before, and i'll ask again, did you really take my vote on Krak as a legit push?  if you didn't, why are you pushing me so hard on it?

 

3 - is why i say you have a hard on for me and why i feel like you're trying to push a lynch on me.  you're tunneling on me, and over something benine to scum hunting.  not to mention taking what i said out of context.

 

i never said that questioning Krak wouldn't find mafia.  i said that questioning a joke vote and the ripple effect of a joke vote wouldn't find scum.  the bold is just ridiculous reaching imo

 

4 - right, which is why i accuse you of trying to hedge a lynch on me.  (hedge a lynch = make a case and push someone while not voting them to get others to try and take up the lynch for you)

 

 

 

 

 

I´m interested in you because I noticed something that I thought were worth looking into. (We are on page 5 so not much have happened so far.) You voted someone that never responded and you didn´t notice that. 

 

You don´t think you would find mafia by questioning Krak? How is that? Do you know that he is not mafia?

 

I´m not eager to see you lynched (as you can see I´m not even voting you). I´m posting my thoughts. 

 

my vote was an obvious joke, as Nyn pointed out.

 

i saw your pushing on me as an attempt to get the game started, but got annoyed when you kept pushing after not getting anything from the push and think its starting come off less as trying to start the game and more as trying to nudge a train and trying to box me into a play style corner

 

that said, townie points for a legit attempt to get the game started beyond D1 spam (or in this case D1 quiet)

 

 

I´m not seeing any train and I doubt I could force you to play one way or another even if I wanted to. 

 

Thanks for the townie points. :D I did try but noone bit on it. I think the only one commenting at all was Nyn. 

 

 

i give you town points for trying to jump start the game yes, but dont think that means i've cleared you or even think you're town.  i've jump started games as scum before and as town.

 

i dislike your approach in how you tried to beat the grass. what you focused and pushed on weren't legit scum hunting, but more antagonistic and opportunistic.

 

your apparent eagerness to get the game started, yet tunneling on me while lacking to comment on arsis, yates and sili  also pings heavily

 

 

 

 

Sili feels like town here. Plays a bit scummy and rash when he is town and that is somewhat what we see here.

Crusher's vote on Sili seems weird. i can totally understand if he has not played with Sili, but if he has and has seen Sili post before, then I think it is a bit opportunistic\\

 

Tina aggressive in the beginning looks good for her. 

 

Not very sure why a couple of people are suspecting Red here. I don't see the "hedging" in his post.

 

Yates seemed to try too hard to play how he plays as town initially. His later posts are more free and natural.

 

 

That is what I have so far

 

(Good, slow game :))

 

i disagree about Sili and i give two flips about his meta

 

also, i'm a chick, you know this Pral  *thwaps pral*

 

 

 

[Yates]

you've played with Mynd, you know what that means.

Not in a LONG while. I still don't get it, though. Please. Indulge me. I would hate to jump to conclusions.

[Red2111]

 

you've played with Mynd, you know what that means.

Not in a LONG while. I still don't get it, though. Please. Indulge me. I would hate to jump to conclusions.

 

 

beat the grass to startle the snakes.  its a tactic.  you know what this is, stop playing coy *thwap*

 

http://changingminds.org/disciplines/warfare/36_strategems/36_stratagems_13.htm

[Arsis]

#Swag

[Arsis]

Also Red's list was extremly unimpressive.

[Nolder]

 

Sili feels like town here. Plays a bit scummy and rash when he is town and that is somewhat what we see here.

Crusher's vote on Sili seems weird. i can totally understand if he has not played with Sili, but if he has and has seen Sili post before, then I think it is a bit opportunistic\\

 

Tina aggressive in the beginning looks good for her. 

 

Not very sure why a couple of people are suspecting Red here. I don't see the "hedging" in his post.

 

Yates seemed to try too hard to play how he plays as town initially. His later posts are more free and natural.

 

 

That is what I have so far

 

(Good, slow game :))

Your face seems weird.  almost snakelike.  LOL

 

Don;t remember if Sil and I have played together.  Oppurtunistic?  Day 1 first vote?  Is that even possible?  I say no.

 

 

unvote vote snakeface

 

Can you clarify who you're voting?

[Nolder]

Votecount

Red - Wom (1)

Krak - Pral (1)

Sili - Red (1)

Yates - Arsis, Krak (2)

Pral - Nyn, Crusher (2)

 

With 12 players alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, 7PM PST.

 

 

 

 

[Yates]

beat the grass to startle the snakes.  its a tactic.  you know what this is, stop playing coy *thwap*

 

http://changingminds.org/disciplines/warfare/36_strategems/36_stratagems_13.htm

A reaction fish, then?

[Red2111]

 

Votecount

Red - Wom (1)

Pral - Nyn (1)

Krak - Pral (1)

Yates - Arsis, Krak (2)

 

With 12 players alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, 7PM PST.

 

 

 

 

 

 

??

 

 

 

 

Sili is pinging the gut and is, right now, my heaviest scum lean  [v]Sili[/v]

 

[Yates]

 

unvote vote snakeface

Can you clarify who you're voting?

 

I knew this was going to happen. He was voting for Pral, there - the person he was responding to in the post. :/

[Red2111]

Also Red's list was extremly unimpressive.

 

less commentary from the peanut gallery and more actual game play

 

kaythnxbye

 

 

 

beat the grass to startle the snakes.  its a tactic.  you know what this is, stop playing coy *thwap*

 

http://changingminds.org/disciplines/warfare/36_strategems/36_stratagems_13.htm

A reaction fish, then?

 

 

not always but sometimes. its more than just reactions and fishing for reactions and jump starting the game.  gives good info but sometimes is done haphazardly or by a non-skilled person can royally screw the town (or blow up in a scums face)

[Nolder]

 

 

Votecount

Red - Wom (1)

Pral - Nyn (1)

Krak - Pral (1)

Yates - Arsis, Krak (2)

 

With 12 players alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, 7PM PST.

 

 

 

 

 

 

??

 

 

 

 

Sili is pinging the gut and is, right now, my heaviest scum lean  [v]Sili[/v]

 

 

Fixed, sorry.

 

 

 

unvote vote snakeface

Can you clarify who you're voting?

 

I knew this was going to happen. He was voting for Pral, there - the person he was responding to in the post. :/

 

Oh. Yeah I don't look at peoples avatars too much when I'm counting votes just their username and if they voted or not.

I didn't want to take for granted that he necessarily meant the person he quoted because I've done that before where I've quotes someone but voted someone else.

 

Anyway I'll count it this time but let's go easy on the nicknames ok everyone?

[Yates]

Anyway I'll count it this time but let's go easy on the nicknames ok everyone?

LOL - you're welcome, Pral!

[Arsis]

 

Also Red's list was extremly unimpressive.

 

less commentary from the peanut gallery and more actual game play

 

kaythnxbye

 

 

 

beat the grass to startle the snakes.  its a tactic.  you know what this is, stop playing coy *thwap*

 

http://changingminds.org/disciplines/warfare/36_strategems/36_stratagems_13.htm

A reaction fish, then?

 

 

not always but sometimes. its more than just reactions and fishing for reactions and jump starting the game.  gives good info but sometimes is done haphazardly or by a non-skilled person can royally screw the town (or blow up in a scums face)

 

I voted who I think it scum. Would it help if I made a big list with 90% of the game as null?

[Yates]

 

A reaction fish, then?

not always but sometimes. its more than just reactions and fishing for reactions and jump starting the game.  gives good info but sometimes is done haphazardly or by a non-skilled person can royally screw the town (or blow up in a scums face)

 

See, this is why I asked. I actually thought you meant something more like a reaction fish and a tunnel rolled up in one.

[Yates]

I´m interested in you because I noticed something that I thought were worth looking into.

 

...

 

I´m not eager to see you lynched (as you can see I´m not even voting you). I´m posting my thoughts.

Can we agree that there is little difference between "posting thoughts" and "casing" someone? It *DOES* look like you were trying to hold Red to a really dated meta, ftr.

[Yates]

I'm not going to be on at deadline [i guess I'm going to learn how to breastfeed??]. I don't have a strong enough scum suspect to vote at this point in a game that hasn't had a ton of engagement. Some of that is me not "beating the grass," I guess, but I could use some help.