[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[WWWwombat]

Hey guys, I'm all out of Cromwells so I need one of you to Cromwell Cass.

[Verbal32]

If I have a gun (which I might cuz I'm obv the SK rite) I will shoot whichever one of the survivors of Cass/Verb/Kiv is least useful this EOD.

Great idea, when I'm home and unable to sit there and dig into things. And I missed about 80 pages.

 

Great plan!

[csarmi]

CASS CFD IS GO FOR LAUNCH!

NOPE

[Cass]

Thanks for the link of CFD - I still don't understand the point of swapping at last minute?

 

How do you define least useful?

 

Following votes on the say so, or finding evidence, sharing, and requesting others do the same.

 

I get that you're a tier or ten million above me, but without experience of these sorts of situations, this reasoning makes no sense to me.

 

*throws arms up in the air*

 

My top picks for scum/SK, at this point, are Kiv and Thane, followed by possibly VerBarm and Des/Dice ... but I'm stuck on DPR, mostly because of how he's interplayed with Kivam.

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

Hey Verb, can you quit arguing with Nyn and post something meaningful? We have just over 3 hours.

Sure, give me the top 3 reasons you think Kiv is scum.

1. He keeps saying I'm the SK

2. *redacted*

3. He's Kiv

Are those real reasons?

[Kivam]

Not down for a cfd on cass. She's not on my lynch list for today, definitely less scummy than other options

[hazelkrs1]

Kivam, DPR, Thane, and Wombat CFD's are all happening before I'd let a Cass CFD happen today

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

Hey Verb, can you quit arguing with Nyn and post something meaningful? We have just over 3 hours.

Sure, give me the top 3 reasons you think Kiv is scum.

1. He keeps saying I'm the SK

2. *redacted*

3. He's Kiv

Are those real reasons?

 

 

1 of them is.

[hazelkrs1]

Not down for a cfd on cass. She's not on my lynch list for today, definitely less scummy than other options

DPR CFD?

[WWWwombat]

Hey did you guys see the part where Cass pretended to forget what a CFD is or do you just not read?

[hazelkrs1]

Hey did you guys see the part where Cass pretended to forget what a CFD is or do you just not read?

You pushing this angle is like a cloned version of the angle Kivam was pushing on AJ

[csarmi]

No Thane CFD Des.

[WWWwombat]

MAFIA GONNA KILL ME TONIGHT CUZ I'M ON TO CASS.  GLGLGL TOWN.

[WWWwombat]

 

Hey did you guys see the part where Cass pretended to forget what a CFD is or do you just not read?

You pushing this angle is like a cloned version of the angle Kivam was pushing on AJ

 

 

She was posting right when 2 people explained CFD to her.  She takes notes on gameplay and makes massive walls.  How would she legitimately forget what a CFD is when she asked what it was and was answered TWICE?

[csarmi]

I didn't care for Kivam's AJ push or much get the basis of it... But AJ is high on my susp list. What makes you think he is town Des?

 

Also Wombat flipping scum is pretty unlikely due to him being Stelio's peak. He can flip SK. Maybe.

[hazelkrs1]

No Thane CFD Des.

Why doesn't he care about lynching scum?

 

Why is he parking his vote on one slot and pretty much never participating besides defending Wombat inexplicably?

 

Why was he spamming and fluffing all the time during EOD yesterday instead of trying to either push his top scum read more or figure out if Sili might be town/scum?

[Cass]

 

 

Hey Verb, can you quit arguing with Nyn and post something meaningful? We have just over 3 hours.

Sure, give me the top 3 reasons you think Kiv is scum.

 

 

1.  He keeps saying I'm the SK

2.  *redacted*

3.  He's Kiv

 

Redacted? How the hell am I supposed to understand your LEGITIMATE motivation here? You have a 'he's targeting me' a 'I'm not telling' and a 'He's him'.

That does not help someone in my position understand where you are coming from - with all of your experience above me - and it does not make me feel more confident about my vote. Simple as that.

In fact, it's kind of frightening that after all my posts and lengthy explanations etc you would think this sort of logic would be the best way to get me to agree with you. It's like you're challenging me to disagree. And it's creating a great distraction from the vote at hand. Much like whatever the hell 'Cromwell' is that you did at the end of the last day. I see a pattern here that I totally don't understand, especially in the context of you being 'Town'. Which again makes me doubt my vote on Kiv. Why on Earth would you be doing that, and expect me to be confident in my own reads to agree with you, without reasons? At the very basics of all of this, this just feels like pressure, distraction, and wasting time.

 

If anyone can explain how it is different to that, and how it's theoretically good for Town, I'd really like to know.

 

 

Pretty odd that you'd forget what CFD is, Cass.

Totally. Cos it's not like I've had a lot to learn here, or confuse the hell outta me, Wom 

 

 

Hey guys, I'm all out of Cromwells so I need one of you to Cromwell Cass.

As above.

[WWWwombat]

I didn't care for Kivam's AJ push or much get the basis of it... But AJ is high on my susp list. What makes you think he is town Des?

 

Also Wombat flipping scum is pretty unlikely due to him being Stelio's peak. He can flip SK. Maybe.

 

Weren't you the one who shot this reasoning down when I used it?

[Darthe]

Five minute break.

 

Womby stop trying to make Cass CFD work.  It's never going to happen.

[Cass]

^ Not sure why that's all bold...

[Kivam]

Hey did you guys see the part where Cass pretended to forget what a CFD is or do you just not read? _____€€€_____ new player, lots of info to assimilate, forgetting that is plausible to me. Also literally no edge if it's a lie - what's the benefit from it?

[Darthe]

Actually I have more to say on that.  For cass to be scum according to Womby logic it's associative depending on Kivam scum so if he wants to catch Cass he has to lynch Kiv first.

 

Based on this I'm willing to CFD Wombat.

[Kivam]

I didn't care for Kivam's AJ push or much get the basis of it... But AJ is high on my susp list. What makes you think he is town Des?

Also Wombat flipping scum is pretty unlikely due to him being Stelio's peak. He can flip SK. Maybe. _______%_____??? Stelio was lying. As the jk, he had no peek

[WWWwombat]

 

No Thane CFD Des.

Why doesn't he care about lynching scum?

 

Why is he parking his vote on one slot and pretty much never participating besides defending Wombat inexplicably?

 

Why was he spamming and fluffing all the time during EOD yesterday instead of trying to either push his top scum read more or figure out if Sili might be town/scum?

 

 

These are all great questions.

 

 

 

 

 

Hey Verb, can you quit arguing with Nyn and post something meaningful? We have just over 3 hours.

Sure, give me the top 3 reasons you think Kiv is scum.

 

 

1.  He keeps saying I'm the SK

2.  *redacted*

3.  He's Kiv

 

Redacted? How the hell am I supposed to understand your LEGITIMATE motivation here? You have a 'he's targeting me' a 'I'm not telling' and a 'He's him'.

That does not help someone in my position understand where you are coming from - with all of your experience above me - and it does not make me feel more confident about my vote. Simple as that.

In fact, it's kind of frightening that after all my posts and lengthy explanations etc you would think this sort of logic would be the best way to get me to agree with you. It's like you're challenging me to disagree. And it's creating a great distraction from the vote at hand. Much like whatever the hell 'Cromwell' is that you did at the end of the last day. I see a pattern here that I totally don't understand, especially in the context of you being 'Town'. Which again makes me doubt my vote on Kiv. Why on Earth would you be doing that, and expect me to be confident in my own reads to agree with you, without reasons? At the very basics of all of this, this just feels like pressure, distraction, and wasting time.

 

If anyone can explain how it is different to that, and how it's theoretically good for Town, I'd really like to know.

 

 

Pretty odd that you'd forget what CFD is, Cass.

Totally. Cos it's not like I've had a lot to learn here, or confuse the hell outta me, Wom 

 

 

Hey guys, I'm all out of Cromwells so I need one of you to Cromwell Cass.

As above.

 

 

Why should your read on other players depend so much on me?  Why don't you just vote who you think is scum?

[csarmi]

Lol. Yes I'm frozen (at least if that mean's I'm stuck deliberating what to do). I'm getting flustered . You don't seem interested in my reasons, but you're not giving me yours and if you're voting against me do you really care about catching Kiv? I don't understand what CFD is, and that's not helping the issue either.

 

And I've brought up extensive reasons why I don't like Kiv too - didn't see anyone rushing to vote when I mentioned them. So it's probably natural that I'm nervous now, when you suddenly go 'Vote Kiv!' and then jump all around on me - after I tell you that I think it's a good vote, but that I'd like to know why.

 

I do get a higher feel of scum from Kiv, but one thing that makes me nervous about it is the way my reread highlighted to me that Kiv and DPR might be working together. Neither of them has provided a read on the other, and they've refused to answer anything about each other directly for the entire game - both of them for fear of interrupting 'things at play'. As if they might be in on something together.

 

Kiv is worse than DPR for this, but the way they set up their 'Cass is scarier than you think she is' posts weirds me out - it's as if they were pushing slightly different points, points which, again, worked incredibly well together to cover all suggestions that I might be Scum.

 

Clever set up, if you think of it, both of them covering each other and opposite sides of the field for most of the game? Doesn't that feel slightly relevant to you? In that light - if you're really reading Kiv as Scum, what makes you so sure DPR is on the other side?

Cass what I don't get... If you think both Kivam and DPR are scum - why do you prefer a DPR lynch?