[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Sili Quirrels]

Signing out.

 

good night sweet village. sweet dreams.

[Arsis]

Sili is tomorrow's lynch. Imo.

[Alanna]

 

Sorry, but I'm a little miffed that people who weren't around to contribute are criticizing the fast lynch.

LOL - fair enough. I just never thought Thane was anywhere near the lynch pool for today. So it was surprising that things went down like that. I also don't think I expressed adequately enough to my partner just how strongly I thought he was Town and could have done a better job of saying why. But he did go a little hyper in an odd way so I know what she was thinking.

 

Who would you cop tonight?

 

 

Hmm. Probably Cory/Hallia or BFKey. Maybe Verb.

[hazelkrs1]

Desp, you're so bad, I give you all the psyducks in the world.

1. Reported

2. Stop acting like a jackass. Even if I WAS wrong about you being scum (I'm not), it wouldn't make me bad, it would make me WRONG.

3. I'm sure you and your scumbuddies are yukking it up on the QT about how bad I am, but all that does is show how little you or anyone talking to you about me knows my actual playstyle (hint- I like to posture and give out fake reads a lot, especially early on)

4. Enjoy getting schooled by "bad" Despot the rest of the game. You and your scumbuddies are now forewarned.

[Arsis]

And the Oscar goes to Sili/des for the fakest fihht

[Arsis]

And the Oscar goes to Sili/des for the fakest fight

[hazelkrs1]

And the Oscar goes to Sili/des for the fakest fihht

[Hallia]

So apparently Tommy led a Thane CFD @ EOD and saved Sili's scummy behind, and Thane flipped town? That the gist of it?

 

.....

 

 

 

Friggin hate all of you. Should have freaking listened to me.

 

 

No worries tho, shooting Tom tonight and lynching Sili tomorrow.

 

@Doc: do NOT fall for Tommy's BS and protect him tonight

 

I listened.  Sheesh, go Halloween costume shopping and return to this? 

 

Also, Cory's LOA for the foreseeable future, so it's just one headed hydra time

[hazelkrs1]

How are you gonna plead with me to read me correctly, going so far as to pull quotes from an old game, THEN CALL ME SCUM ANYWAY?

 

Pick one. Either I'm town or I'm scum. This song and dance ends now.

Bahahahahahahahahahahahha @ the irony of this post

 

LAWLZ

[hazelkrs1]

Foreseeable future? Did moar drama go down in the last half hundred pages?

 

[hazelkrs1]

And by "deal with" I mean explore the claim from the other side of the fence. DPR and I were scum bros. Made it impossible for me to defend his slot without Des getting suspicious of me.

I'm still so butthurt about that game. Was so incredibly slanted towards a scum roflstomp with the setup, yet Darthe and I almost went super saiyan GOAT mode and steamrolled scum. Unfortunately, town just fell hook, line, and sinker for Verb's Cop claim. Wish I had fake CC'ed like I had been wanting to, would have been so amaze

[Hallia]

No, he's got personal issues.  <3

[hazelkrs1]

Hallia since you're around and I actually feel good about your slot so far, and you also likely have a better handle in the game- who are your top town reads atm? Any really good scum gut reads?

[berf]

 

Are you happy to have me at least a little Tommy?

 

; . ;

You are always a pleasant addition

 

Clearing tom

 

Get @ me

Attaboy

 

We'll be spazzing the hell out at EOD and CFDing onto villagers to let wolves slip away before you know it

 

 

I laughed, and was then sad.

 

 

Comments towards me regarding my entry Wall - Arsis had a +1 for not believing in the PoE player list, and agreeing with my Verbal read. Those aren't really strong tells either way despite being parallel to my own beliefs. Arsis' scumpicks don't gel with my own either, which doesn't favour him, so I'm largely null on this slot. 

 

 

Player notes: *If you aren't listed, you aren't having an impact

 

Thane - Early disagreements with Verb followed by buddying. Setup spec was strange.

 

Verbal - Early anti-thane stance for the setup spec. Liked his interactions with my town reads. Hate the interaction with leelou though I can never read it, but comments regarding me being a fossil with regards to DM meta are spot on.

 

AJ - anti-female-assigned thing from Thane. Survivor claim? Well then. Thoughts on that later. Pretty deflective but brash positions in this game.

 

Sili - nothing early bar suspicions of Tommy. Later on oh god the self vote. Pro-Town self votes are a rare thing and this is not one of them. SO is this poor town play or poor scum play? "Gave up for a sec"... How emo is everyone around these parts? And then chainsaw defense of me. Interesting. Followed by wagon inspired meltdown hrmm.

 

Tommy - Generally being regular Tommy as far as I can see from interactions. THis reads of excitable town. Though the suspicion of yates' play being weird due to the last game I pressume is kind of a strange motivation. 

-#565 - Picking from a list of Pral/Alanna/Rags/Arsis/Yates/Key/Dice/Berf. So sure of your town reads though? I'll play along though. See my scumpicks at the bottom.

-#1234 Got to the hardclaim. Interesting play. Having a townread here helps.

 

Desp - Comes in and get's sad about being killed for sure for... what exactly in his entrance? Saying "I am town?" Needless wifom about the NK. Not sure if emo Desp or scum desp.

 

Halli/Cory - Cory I have trouble getting a read on, but Halli seems to come through as genuine. It's been a few years since I've played with her but this reads like the bubbly halli I know trying to be slightly less like the bubbly halli I know in order to improve her town play and impact in game. Of course any time someone mentions or references a meta change, I hate it. It's always a big dose of wifom and clouds reads for the current games. But anyway.

- Interestingly, when info was called for regarding my meta, Halli didn't come forward. Looking for the other players involved who were around and ignored that...

 

Manbat - I like the approach, generally for the motivation behind it moreso than for any major effectiveness. Getting involved in the play which is always a good sign.

 

Arsis - First thing I've noticed is the Cory scumcall. Looking for Halli opinions...Can't find any. Also sus of manbat and cory. Hrmm. And now Halli, later on. WHich I find strange. The counterclaim reads like a poor reaction test.

#415 - Just never a fan of play like this. Basically saying you are a psychopath invites suspicion onto yourself regarding 3rd party stuff, which, if you are town, is distracting. However if it's just poor SK play then by all means go ahead.

 

 

Yates/Leelou - Cheering for Halli. Strange. Also sus of Manbat and Tommy which I find left field. Sus. So leelou is Hyrda here, yeah? Slight scumlean early on of this slot. This is Yates dragging Leelou down as opossed to Halli dragging Cory up, somewhat. Also, having any player on ignore is a massive hinderance to town play, so there's that. Unless he isn't worried about the slot because he plans on NK'ing it overnight.

1926 - Wanting to make a deal with the 3rd party is also curious.

 

Alanna - Like the entrance to the game. Commented on me and my absence as town Alanna would.

 

BFG - Like the entrance too, despite being on nearly opposite sides of every opinion. Liked the fact that he didn't advocate myself for a dumblynch to deflect from his own wagon.

 

Dice - I'm having trouble getting much of a read here. Nothing has jumped out as uber scummy though so the slot can live for now. Gets town points for thinking about the Beloved Princess situation.

 

Key - liked for the most part, but suspicion of me is off putting of course. I had access issues so I'd hope that doesn't get painted as avoidance. Finding my post scummy is of course allowed, however.

 

Town on:

Manbat, Tommy, Alanna, BFG, Halli

 

Scumlean on

Yates, probs Arsis, maybe verb, maybe sili.

 

Pretty much null on everything else after reading up.

 

 

Wagon Snapshot

 

 

Berf (6): Key, Alanna, AJ, Thane, Tommy, Sili

BFKEY(2): Dice, Pral

Sili (5): Des, Rags, Lates, Cuddles, Arsis

Arsis (2): Verbal, Monstr 

 

 

Not Voting (1): Berf

 

Small Fos here on Key. Basically OMGUS. No, but pushing for a no-lynch info on someone who hasn't had the opportunity to contribute is pretty bad. That goes for all on the wagon, really.

 

Final Wagon

 

Berf (2): AJ, Thane

BFKEY(1): Pral

Sili (4): Des, Lates, Cuddles, Dice

Thane (9): Tommy, Alanna, Sili, Berf, Monstr, Flea Bag, Arsis, BFKEY, Rags

 

 

So given that you can generally find scum on any wagon, my leading candidates here would be 

 

Arsis to start with. Sili, Verbal and Rags next. Town or null on the rest.

 

Survivor Claim (AJ) Interesting. I wouldn't feel great about bringing this to end game, and AJ has to know that's a common opinion. Has basically signed his own death warrant which makes me believe the claim over not. SK using survivor as defense? The kill pattern will assist with narrowing that down which we'll have to wait for. In the meantime it doesn't hurt to let this slot live, though sooner or later it will need to be dealt with.

 

Beloved Princess Claim (Tommy) More interesting. Three options;

 

1) Scum fakeclaim. Motivation is there - an early claim of this nature could result in less attention being given over the course of the game. But, like the 3rd party claim above, this will ultimately mean death before lylo if it gets close. Add in the chance of a visit increasing over than not claiming anything if played wrong, and it's tough to see this as a scum play.

2) Town Fakeclaim. Possible town bomb to trade 1v1 with a scum - a noble pursuit. One would hope that whatever reason for the fakeclaim is strong, so I'm not concerned if this is the case here, depending of course on the ultimate outcome.

3) Town realclaim: Not super pro town by outing, but better early than late, because a blind NK could get lucky, hit the Beloved, and skip a night straight to scum victory.

 

So that's basically my catch up.

 

I don't particularly feel involved in the game yet so day 2 will be good to get some more pressing going, build up some more fruitful interactions and whatnot. A few have stood out as above. I'll be more on the money tomorrow and make Thane's lynch not be in vain. 

 

And that was exhausting so I'm going to go get some food and have a lay down. Jesus.

[Andrej]

Alright so Berf is probably a villager.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Desp, you're so bad, I give you all the psyducks in the world.

1. Reported

2. Stop acting like a jackass. Even if I WAS wrong about you being scum (I'm not), it wouldn't make me bad, it would make me WRONG.

3. I'm sure you and your scumbuddies are yukking it up on the QT about how bad I am, but all that does is show how little you or anyone talking to you about me knows my actual playstyle (hint- I like to posture and give out fake reads a lot, especially early on)

4. Enjoy getting schooled by "bad" Despot the rest of the game. You and your scumbuddies are now forewarned.

 

Sorry Desp, I've been really on edge lately and you like baiting reactions. I tried to joke, but I guess it ended badly. I don't care if you're playing up your meta or anything... I just think you went too far this time.

 

Bye. I'll have you on ignore from now on. This way it'll be a happier village and play space, I hope.

 

 

sorry for the trouble I caused

 

[Sili Quirrels]

Sili - nothing early bar suspicions of Tommy. Later on oh god the self vote. Pro-Town self votes are a rare thing and this is not one of them. SO is this poor town play or poor scum play? "Gave up for a sec"... How emo is everyone around these parts? And then chainsaw defense of me. Interesting. Followed by wagon inspired meltdown hrmm.

 

I know I can be a bit of a ditz. Tommy has already taken me to task for it in other games. This time I was a little better and got my act together quicker though.

 

It's just me who's emo. I'll soak it all up like a sponge.

[Sili Quirrels]

Signing out once more.

 

I promise not to be such a panzy in future games. I learn quickly

[hazelkrs1]

Sili you have absolutely no reason to put me on ignore here. I have never insulted you or browbeated you or anything like that. If you seriously have me on ignore.... Dear Lord.

 

At one point in time, I was loving all the new blood coming in. Now I feel like everyone that's come on recently either gets way too emo at the drop of a hat or insults people left and right for not playing the way they do. I even feel partially responsible since I helped encourage this influx of players.

 

Really has made it tough to enjoy games lately.

[hazelkrs1]

Worst part is I'm an emotional mafia player AND I'm willing to AtE as scum, yet I still am willing to say other people recently take it way too far.

 

For God's sake people if DESPOT is telling you to cut the emo crap.... It has gone too far

[hazelkrs1]

I'm not willing to give people loads of time and not lynch them because they haven't contributed.

 

I'm taking the stance of Town!AJ from previous recent games. Punish the slankers. We can and have waited too long to lynch them and been swept for it in the past.

 

There's ~always scum in the slankers on DM.

 

Let's make them afraid of slanking.

This post is also hilarious in light of Tommy pushing a train on Thane, who was participating like CRAZY all game

[Sili Quirrels]

Worst part is I'm an emotional mafia player AND I'm willing to AtE as scum, yet I still am willing to say other people recently take it way too far.

 

For God's sake people if DESPOT is telling you to cut the emo crap.... It has gone too far

I HOPE you'll be able to understand why people are irritated with you, but don't require it. You're an acquired taste after all. More to the point, I think mafia should be a positive place, and unfortunately I'm very high-strung right now, and am not the best character for the job. I will try my utmost to ignore the negative spots and aim for the brighter patches.

 

If this includes putting you on ignore because you do insult and browbeat other players, then this is probably a fair response for the objective betterment of krak's game. In short I am reacting to it more vehemently than I should and I will cut off the leg henceforth --- and hopefully sow it back on at a later time because I don't hold grudges well.

 

As to my current signups, I've unlisted because I need a break after this. Take a breather so to speak.

[hazelkrs1]

Sili show me ONE spot this game where I have insulted anyone. Also anytime I HAVE browbeated anyone or came close to it this game it was for the purposes of info gathering, not just being a jerk like you keep trying to characterize me as.

 

I think you're just copping out and saying you're putting me on ignore so you don't have to engage me, and this potentially give more away.

[Andrej]

Just finished reading from page 120, I'll put my thoughts up in a minute.

 

You guys should appreciate me. Even when I'm not a villager I still can't help but village - I guess I can't just help it.

 

I'll just be that weird neighbor that isn't really like anyone else and kind of keeps to himself, but nobody actually minds me living there for that reason.

[Sili Quirrels]

You are free to think that, but it is not the case.