[Advanced] Kronos and Kaylee's Firefly Mafia Won

[Yates]

Amen to that.

Why do you shut up and go play hockey you Canuck...

[Yates]

don't you - why DON'T you

[Andrej]

Wolf team is something like

 

Hallia/Leelou/Tom/Yates/Verb

 

Some kind of combo in that group.

 

Maybe swap Pral or Csarmi in there with someone.

 

Anyone notice how Hallia has been a scum read all game but instead of getting lynched these garbage speed wagons keep developing? It's really not a coincidence.

[Andrej]

If Alanna is a wolf here then gg because I'm never voting her.

 

I doubt Nyn is too, so again gg cause I'm never voting there.

 

I still have Yates as green but he's been able to fool me before. My big hang up is his clash with Tom and now how they are slapping each other on the back.

 

Csarmi is probably town based on his claim and general attitude.

 

Tom is pretty likely to be a wolf imo. His votes have been lazy when it came to the lynches and he down plays his responsibility a lot. I also think he wouldn't ride out the wagons that have been completed as a villager. Lots of excuses from him.

 

If Hallia isn't a wolf here then idk. She's added pretty much nothing to the game, floats in the background and has helped several villagers in a row now. The fact she's been suspected since D1 but her wagon is never able to get off the ground is another thing.

 

Verb/Hallia I guess I'll have to review. Could be w/w because as I remember in the RW game once we had a guilty on Leelou/Hallia it pointed us straight at Verb/Tina for their lack of interaction.

[Andrej]

Somebody fight with me!

[Alanna]

I kind of agree with you on everything so I can't fight with you LOL.

[Alanna]

I still feel definitely that Hallia and Leelou are scum. Today's lynch just made me feel more strongly about that. I agree that the other wolves are among Tommy/Yates/Verb (I'm not quite as sure about Nyn as you are, but at this point I would definitely lynch any of those 3 before her).  

[Andrej]

I've never seen wolf!Nyn but the sheer amount of work she's done this game makes it highly unlikely she is a wolf imo, even if some of her reads were bad/wrong.

[Alanna]

 

I did feel, catching up just now, like it was really obvious that the lynch was building too quickly, which, with 4 scum and 3 townies left, practically screams that scum were driving this lynch. Maybe it just seemed that way, reading it all at once. But there was at least 1 townie on that lynch (aside from Clov) and like, why so hasty? That's just dumb. I brought up how a GA could work in a game with a Doc and was basically ignored. At the very least, some people could've held back until more people (like me) could check in, so we could, you know, actually try to work as a townie team and decide together who to lynch.

I don't know what to tell you. Clov claimed a role that shouldn't exist in a game that already had a VERY SIMILAR role flip. Then he came in with no effort and self hammered. I probably would have still voted him anyway but to say that wagon built "too quickly" is nuts. This has been a LONG game with a LOT of people playing in frustrating ways. I think seeing an opportunity to lynch scum quickly was simply too enticing. I wasn't looking forward to another 30 pages per real life day of reading. This is like being involved in 3 games at once.

 

 

Maybe it's my experience with DM Mafia, and I don't know as much about how games are these days. But in my experience on this site, it just wouldn't be that weird to have a Doc and a GA in an Advanced Game, without it being labeled Role Madness. Whether or not you agree that's a good idea is a different matter. And I don't think that it's totally unreasonable to consider the flavor of the game. Everyone was getting on csarmi for doing that, but the fact is, there is a doctor among the major characters in Firefly - pretty likely there would be a Doc.

 

I'm not saying I absolutely would not have voted Clov, had I been around. I think his giving up did make him seem like scum. But I just can't like how quickly that train built. I mean, me, as a townie, I like to leave time for everyone else to chime in, if we can. Speed lynches like that typically only benefit scum.

 

Wolf team is something like

 

Hallia/Leelou/Tom/Yates/Verb

 

Some kind of combo in that group.

 

Maybe swap Pral or Csarmi in there with someone.

 

Anyone notice how Hallia has been a scum read all game but instead of getting lynched these garbage speed wagons keep developing? It's really not a coincidence.

 

Yeah, to the bolded. It's starting to bug me.

 

[Alanna]

BTW, I said something earlier about there being 4 scum and 3 townies left; obviously that was a mistake lol. I meant 6 townies and 4 scum.

[Andrej]

Alanna if you're a wolf leave me alive to F3 so we can speed lynch the last villager together.

 

I wouldn't want to be in that situation with anyone but you.

[Nynaeve]

:P

[Nynaeve]

Get a room

[Tommyrod]

No love for Tom?

[Tommyrod]

Wolf team is something like

 

Hallia/Leelou/Tom/Yates/Verb

 

Some kind of combo in that group.

 

Maybe swap Pral or Csarmi in there with someone.

 

Anyone notice how Hallia has been a scum read all game but instead of getting lynched these garbage speed wagons keep developing? It's really not a coincidence.

My theory was flawless. There's only ONE problem with it. Execution.

[Tommyrod]

Who would have thought that the #1 downfall of DM towns would be DM towns?

 

Not this guy.

[Alanna]

Get a room

 

Don't be jealous :P

 

[Tommyrod]

I was sooooooo freaking excited when I saw Clov was busted and then gave up.

 

I think we broke him? I think I broke him.

 

I'm sorry Clov. You're now wOrSeTHanWaLTeR.

 

Inside joke. You wouldn't understand.

[Tommyrod]

I can definitely see Lee and Halli as scum on the Clov wagon but I don't think Nyn, Yates or Clov were.

[Tommyrod]

At the very least if one of Nyn or Yates is scum they were sufficiently pushy, exasperated for a scum lynch and synchronized with my own feelings for me to just give them a gold star and a notbad.jpg if they go on to win the game.

[Tommyrod]

That kind of emotional duplicity only comes around once or twice an era. Someone like Gadarene but you guys don't know him.

[Tommyrod]

If you go back to the room with Hallia's "I'll trust you Tom" vote and "Clov town read me when it was impossible to do so!" justification then you'll see a scumclaim written on the walls.

 

Though Halli I did enjoy when you said you became obvious town after your catchup sequence. That's just... you're awesome, lol.

[Tommyrod]

Leelou has been the L-1 for the last two days, hasn't she? That's pretty bad. The trouble with her is there's no smoking gun. I think she's scum for overall lack of interest in lining up suspects but is just sneakier than I thought she could be. The type that can mosey along and get town read for it?

[Andrej]

Tom you're a dastardly villain

[Tommyrod]

I kinda want Salami to be scum who learned his biggest tell was a lack of emotional vulnerability after his last scum game but I wouldn't lynch him first. Him being "correct" but ineffectual on every day's lynch could be a leak, would be funny if so. I think it's interesting from a gameplay perspective that Salami and Clov had similar D1's, one ended with a doc claim and one with an emo claim and they were similarly effective.