[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[hazelkrs1]

 

What do you want me to call it? failing to vote his convictions? discrepancy between words and actions? I think I have used those phrases as well. Nudge merely sums it up in a smaller package.

 

And he did not make clear his stance from the beginning. He even used some nudge phrases like not a good look. Only after there was additional support did he ramp up to LOCK WOLF and then only after being dared to do it did he actually vote. So yes that entire run of events looks more likely to come from a mafia player to me.  

 

I am wondering if you are defending him so much. Saying his reads were so good, etc. etc. 

 

As far as justifying a read. That is comical from you. Push someone for what in this case could be thought as psuedo policy. I was more interested in not letting it go uncontested. His discrepancy in his stance on us (hell he just admitted that I needed to talk him into voting me) led me to believe he is mafia fake claiming Miller.

 

 

No, he made his stance clear from the very beginning on you two. He wasn't hedging or soft pushing or mentioning you in passing, he was engaging your slot directly and actively kept pushing.

 

And yes, I do think his reads looked genuine, and I DO believe his claim, and I'm more attacking you two than defending him. I find yalls push on him to be completely disingenuine. You keep waffling between acting like it's a policy lynch and trying to justify your "read" on him.

 

The Miller claim was never going to go by uncontested, and I don't see why you kept acting like it would have. The Miller claim would have and will follow TG through the end of the game so if he starts slipping at any point he WILL get pressured for it. If anything claiming Miller just put that much more pressure on him to show his towniness.

 

 

You guys are gonna make me ISO TG 6 hours into the game? Okay.

And Despo.

 

Can you do two at once?

 

 

[TheSlenderMan]

Is there an ISO/filter function here, btw?

[Yates]

I have never once said you said the cop should view TG. SHOW ME where I said that Ithi, cause you and Turin are starting to misrep hardcore.

I think they are talking about this:

 

Everyone walks away. Cop doesn't view. It's just perfect.

 

I may just be contrary - but if no Mafia has ever done this, why the hell not?

Underlined: You seriously trying to say the Cop should view TG after he claimed Miller? Are you seriously saying that?]/b] Regardless of whether TG is faking Miller or not, Cop viewing him would be an absolutely terrible idea

 

[Yates]

Welp. Guess that has been beat to death. lol

[Tommyrod]

 

@TG. I don't care how I look. I not gonna let this just slide and then bite town later. 

 

So, to be clear, you want it to bite town now? 

 

Also, Turin, how would you play getting rolled Miller?  Claim early or be reactive and be a guaranteed mislynch later in the game if viewed?

 

 

 

 

At what point do you think we should Lynch you?

 

Never.  It'd be a mislynch.

 

 

The problem with millers is that there is no way to actually vet them in a more basic game because the roles that could clear them are not going to be there. Claiming Miller and then playing uber town is a recipe to a town loss. 

 

Part of claiming Miller early is knowing that you may have to be lynched for the long term good of the town.

 

You could be telling the truth but without being able to confirm it then all it does is set up a bad situation later in the game. 

 

True, if it comes down to a couple cop guilty's and we can afford a mislynch, fine, lynch away to win the game.  But what you're saying about a bad situation end game doesn't make sense, because if you lynch us now then you never get to that bad situation in the first place since you hit LyLo that much sooner.

 

 

 

 

Followed on means I'm on your 'mafia' list. You have me there but are not voting me. It's a nudge nudge thing. Tommy said I was Mafia and then you agreed.

I never said you voted for me.

 

:)

 

Anyways - I need to repair the Transformers.

 

 

Ithi/Turin confirmed wolf.  Thread flow Ithi, I challenged you first and called what you were saying ridiculous.  Then AJ voted.  Then Tommy voted.  You already have the order of events wrong to fit your narrative.

 

 

 

 

Actually, it is completely dependent on the percentage of cacao in the dark chocolate, but who are we kidding...Cory doesn't know that! Hahahohohehe.

 

I need Ray.

 

Comes in a makes a joke comment on actual gameplay about my claim.  Doesn't engage on it at all.  I don't like the tone so I voted off that. 

 

Lmao. Eat something other than carbs and workout; macros done.

 

[v]TSB[/v]

huehuehuehue

 

 

Useless fluff to piss Arsis off which is not alignment indicative.  However, laughs at my vote which is needless to do during RVS, and it's clear he is treating the thread as still in RVS based on comment #1.

 

End of case.

 

 

 

Alright, here's why I'm reading TG as town after skimming his posts in ISO, and it's one word: sharpness. He's got it. He's making points that he believes in, and you can tell he believes it because of the sharpness behind his posts. And who says stuff that they believe? Mostly townies, duh.

 

Paraphrasing stuff that displays this sharpness:

 

"You want to bite town in the butt now instead of later?" <-- good point, nice sharpness

 

"Never, it'd be a mislynch." <--- No hemming and hawing here, just to the point sharpness

 

"You already got the order of events wrong to fit your narrative." <--- I don't have to agree with the conclusion to see that he still believes this because he sees their push on him as contrived.

 

"End of case." <--- implies he doesn't need more than that for a scum lean because it's already bad enough and he believes in it.

 

 

So I think TG is one of the likeliest townies in the game on tone and sharpness. This is good news.

[Yates]

Is there an ISO/filter function here, btw?

No. You have to click on the magnifying glass with nothing in the search field. Then you can search by author. But spelling counts. Also, it isn't exactly in reverse chronological order - but mostly.

[hazelkrs1]

You do see in the quote above where you said 'You seriously trying to say the Cop should view TG after he claimed Miller? Are you seriously saying that? Regardless of whether TG is faking Miller or not, Cop viewing him would be an absolutely terrible idea.'

 

My point was that you were trying to make it seem like a bad thing that the Cop wouldn't view TG if he "got away with it"

 

Scum wouldn't fake claim Miller just to keep from being viewed by a cop, that's redonkulous. The claim would put them at the forefront of the discussion, whereas there would only be a chance of getting viewed normally.

 

I think the blurb about the Cop was unnecessary and that it was just your bitterness about people believing the Miller claim bleeding through.

 

It's kinda like Yates point about your redundancy with the "Town" Miller thing. Scum are more self-conscious so will slip in little blurbs that town wouldn't.

[Tommyrod]

Arsis -- the problem isn't the question you had, it's that it didn't come to your mind at the time of the claim. You DID comment on csarmi's Vote on you, and make an OP of your own before the 'question' popping up in your head. So it seems like a fabricated afterthought. Town WOULD be interested in immediately commenting on the ONLY thing that has so far even happened in the Thread.

Also you haven't had threadpresence since then and your posts have felt cautious so still the likeliest Scum in my eyes.

 

Tom -- how strong is your Monstr-lean? I don't disagree with the notion at all but you've actually seen him scum so I'd like to hear exactly how far he is from his Scum-range, if far at all.

 

Yates Townread strengthened during my catch-up.

Monstr seems Town, not sure whether it should be a 'read' or a 'lean'.

Tom I'd like to peg as a TownREAD (!!!) based almost solely on his response to my OP.

Despot is a Town-lean, though a superficial one for the moment.

Still Town-leaning on Ithi/TT.

About monstr: like 60% town? If I see something that's very revealing in either direction I'll point it out but so far we seem to be on the same page, or at the very least he's expressing that he agrees with me so that's a good start.

[keyholder21]

 

Is there an ISO/filter function here, btw?

No. You have to click on the magnifying glass with nothing in the search field. Then you can search by author. But spelling counts. Also, it isn't exactly in reverse chronological order - but mostly.

Click the Ascending button and it sorts is from oldest to new.

[hazelkrs1]

 

Is there an ISO/filter function here, btw?

No. You have to click on the magnifying glass with nothing in the search field. Then you can search by author. But spelling counts. Also, it isn't exactly in reverse chronological order - but mostly.

 

 

This and make sure you're in the thread before clicking on the search icon first, and also it's a good idea to list "by posts" instead of "by topic list" or w/e

 

And yeah, aint quite chronological so kinda annoying

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

You do see in the quote above where you said 'You seriously trying to say the Cop should view TG after he claimed Miller? Are you seriously saying that? Regardless of whether TG is faking Miller or not, Cop viewing him would be an absolutely terrible idea.'

 

My point was that you were trying to make it seem like a bad thing that the Cop wouldn't view TG if he "got away with it"

 

Scum wouldn't fake claim Miller just to keep from being viewed by a cop, that's redonkulous. The claim would put them at the forefront of the discussion, whereas there would only be a chance of getting viewed normally.

 

I think the blurb about the Cop was unnecessary and that it was just your bitterness about people believing the Miller claim bleeding through.

 

It's kinda like Yates point about your redundancy with the "Town" Miller thing. Scum are more self-conscious so will slip in little blurbs that town wouldn't.

 

Soooo ... you did say it then?

 

And I made a statement about an obvious occurance. And I have a bad habit about naming millers, Town Millers - which is more me thinking that TG isn't Town and thus he isn't a Town Miller.

 

 

 

I'm still Town.

 

Are you Town @ Despo?

[Tommyrod]

Des and TG are both very likely to be town, Ithi.

[dicetosser1]

@yates   its apparently 18 miles.  Ive just started warming up for a 90km (55 odd miles) in november

[Ithillian Turambar]

Des and TG are both very likely to be town, Ithi.

Everyone is likely to be mafia on Day 1.

 

Reasonableness just persists me right off :)

[TheSlenderMan]

Dicetosser, thoughts on the Thread please.

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (3) - Halligeddon, Slendy, Tomstress

TSB (1) - Arsis

TG/Meri (1) - Ithi/Turin

Tomstress (1) - Yates

Ithi/Turin (3) - AJ, TG/Meri, des

 

Not Voting (8): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

No Deadline yet.

 

 

We are going to decide on names for the hydras and put them in the OP. Vote counts will then have these names. Hydras, if you have a preference, PM us in the next 12 hours.

[hazelkrs1]

@Ithi: I'm so town my triceps look like horseshoes

 

 

Aorn tho I don't think you and Turin are town. And my other two scum reads have both at least started looking marginally better- Yates in his push on you, and Arsis in that one response to me. You guys tho keep doubling down on the buzzword stuff and waffling between policy lynch and legit scum read on TG

[Yates]

@yates   its apparently 18 miles.  Ive just started warming up for a 90km (55 odd miles) in november

I forgot - this is your late winter/early spring, isn't it? Powerbar makes some energy gummies that really help you get over that monster hill at 70km in...

 

But anyway, thoughts on the game would be lovely.

[Tommyrod]

Arsis -- the problem isn't the question you had, it's that it didn't come to your mind at the time of the claim. You DID comment on csarmi's Vote on you, and make an OP of your own before the 'question' popping up in your head. So it seems like a fabricated afterthought. Town WOULD be interested in immediately commenting on the ONLY thing that has so far even happened in the Thread.

Also you haven't had threadpresence since then and your posts have felt cautious so still the likeliest Scum in my eyes.

 

Tom -- how strong is your Monstr-lean? I don't disagree with the notion at all but you've actually seen him scum so I'd like to hear exactly how far he is from his Scum-range, if far at all.

 

Yates Townread strengthened during my catch-up.

Monstr seems Town, not sure whether it should be a 'read' or a 'lean'.

Tom I'd like to peg as a TownREAD (!!!) based almost solely on his response to my OP.

Despot is a Town-lean, though a superficial one for the moment.

Still Town-leaning on Ithi/TT.

 

You really need an avatar btw.

[hazelkrs1]

 

Arsis -- the problem isn't the question you had, it's that it didn't come to your mind at the time of the claim. You DID comment on csarmi's Vote on you, and make an OP of your own before the 'question' popping up in your head. So it seems like a fabricated afterthought. Town WOULD be interested in immediately commenting on the ONLY thing that has so far even happened in the Thread.

Also you haven't had threadpresence since then and your posts have felt cautious so still the likeliest Scum in my eyes.

 

Tom -- how strong is your Monstr-lean? I don't disagree with the notion at all but you've actually seen him scum so I'd like to hear exactly how far he is from his Scum-range, if far at all.

 

Yates Townread strengthened during my catch-up.

Monstr seems Town, not sure whether it should be a 'read' or a 'lean'.

Tom I'd like to peg as a TownREAD (!!!) based almost solely on his response to my OP.

Despot is a Town-lean, though a superficial one for the moment.

Still Town-leaning on Ithi/TT.

 

You really need an avatar btw.

 

 

Slendy avi for this game imo:

 

 

 

[hazelkrs1]

Top Tier Bulge there too

 

(I know you noticed too, don't look at me like that)

[Tommyrod]

K here you go Slender: http://i.imgur.com/axGRS6F.png

[TheSlenderMan]

Haha, I accept! :D

[Tommyrod]

Slender I do think you should beat some truth out of Dice because he certainly doesn't listen to me, but I'll warn you now that getting reads out of him is like pulling teeth every single game.

[SickPuppets]

Finally, this started.