[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

Tommyrod · August 4, 2014

Yeah. Nothing at all about anyone else, despite 20 pages of new stuff...

Nice, this is nice.

Darthe · August 4, 2014

I'm going tto use the Tommy defense.

I'm significantly better than this as scum so clearly I am being earnest. If you disagree then you're entitled to that but me thinking differently from you has nothing to do with my alignment.

Darthe · August 4, 2014

And yeah atm I think maybe it is red playing Tommy. He looks odd to me ITT but that could bbe comperable to his scum game only which would make him town? IDK, I can't really read him for crap though I heavily dislike his plays during the latter part of the dawn.

Blackhoof · August 4, 2014

"I don't see too much value in analyzing the Tommy-train though. Sure, scum might have seen some opportunistic possibility for a cheap mislynch there - but with the amount of troll Tommy laid out as groundwork, they might have spotted the trap and kept away while confused townies piled on."

Was waiting for this sort of comment as well. Several of you saw last game how Darthe fake claimed a cop guilty and I went along with it as if I believed it completely. But I don't think MOST scum go that route.

So would scum be more likely to join in or just ignore my Galactus claim because they likely know it isn't true?

Not sure. I bet both happened.

If I was in the situation, I would split. Some believe and some ignore. That way whichever side ends up looking better is safe and there's an alright amount of distance between the groups so long as you take care to avoid any obvious linkage between them.

id probably vote him lol. Id suggest some of my teammates to refrain from it though.

i reckon one vote at least on that train is scum, even if Tommy is as well.

Still not liking Tsuki so far.

He went pretty in depth with his probing for Tom's character info with the end assessment that they couldn't be town this game based off lore, and then quickly backs off saying that so long Tom isn't anti-town he doesn't care?? I don't see how those add up.

Because in the Marvel Universe (which is Avengers) what HASN'T been able to be classified as third-party, or even villain, at one time or another?

exactly. Heck hulk is frequently out of control and dangerous.

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,

reaaaally? How very interesting.... That looks terrible for red. Private buddying? Bad bad bad

her vote on dawn is also extremely flimsy. Considering a red vote atm

Fwiw the PMs reduced my read on her from scum to null.

perhaps her plan, no?

Random catchup musings -

Darthe looks mild scum salad, Hallia is town lean for the very early "I'm town" proclamation, and Hoof gives me the the creeps.

As for the bwahaha comment, that is like popcorning on steroids. Vos?

[v]Tsuki[/v]

creeps? What a strange thing to say. Hurtful.

Not impressed by sass. When can we expect more in depth analysis from you?

I don't understand why you're even voting for Tsuki.

You should be. And you can expect some when I didn't just have to speedread 50 pages of game. Maybe.

If you don't understand why I'm voting Tsuki you didn't read my post.

you literally didn't mention tsuki once in your post.

WWWwombat · August 4, 2014

Yeah meta is part of of it but Darthe also apparently ignored a strong scum tell from Arsis to policy vote me instead.
Scum tell? Not voting nol? I'm waiting to hammer. ;)
He said it himself.

"The above post by Arsis has the worst tone I've ever read."

Oh, yeah. Nolderp's team backing him up. Darthe and rand the dream team Right there

I can never tell when you're being serious.

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,

She listed you as #2 in mine.

Not really indicative of anything imo.

bwahahahaha.... this should be great...

Wolfy

She didnt even mention you in mine.

bwahahahaha.... this should be great...

Ewwwwwww

Cool xposts.

Bite me. When is something like that NOT great?

When town is trying to solve the game and someone makes it needlessly complicated with stuff like this?

I had to double-check your name to make sure you were the real Lenlo after I read this. You realize this is the issue I have with you almost every game, right? Did you put on your shiny pro-town hat for this game?

Tommyrod · August 4, 2014

I'm going tto use the Tommy defense.

I'm significantly better than this as scum so clearly I am being earnest. If you disagree then you're entitled to that but me thinking differently from you has nothing to do with my alignment.

And yeah atm I think maybe it is red playing Tommy. He looks odd to me ITT but that could bbe comperable to his scum game only which would make him town? IDK, I can't really read him for crap though I heavily dislike his plays during the latter part of the dawn.

What are you even blabbing about br0?

Arsis · August 4, 2014

Yeah meta is part of of it but Darthe also apparently ignored a strong scum tell from Arsis to policy vote me instead.
Scum tell? Not voting nol? I'm waiting to hammer. ;)
He said it himself.

"The above post by Arsis has the worst tone I've ever read."

Oh, yeah. Nolderp's team backing him up. Darthe and rand the dream team Right there

I can never tell when you're being serious.

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,
She listed you as #2 in mine.

Not really indicative of anything imo.

bwahahahaha.... this should be great...
Wolfy

She didnt even mention you in mine.

bwahahahaha.... this should be great...

Ewwwwwww

Cool xposts.

Bite me. When is something like that NOT great?

When town is trying to solve the game and someone makes it needlessly complicated with stuff like this?

I had to double-check your name to make sure you were the real Lenlo after I read this. You realize this is the issue I have with you almost every game, right? Did you put on your shiny pro-town hat for this game?

Guardians of thw galaxy is my favorite movie so far this year. I love it. Being serious about what?

Red2111 · August 4, 2014

Darthe still trying to look like he's playin while spamming it up :wink: srsly tho bro, get in the game.

the infamous list

Cool Kids table

Mynd

:tongue:

anways

lock!town goats[/b]

nadda

approaching lock!town

tommy - meta 80%

len - interaction via PR from D0 82%

despo - meta & WIM 70%

womby - gut feel and tone of posts 51%

null to town

tress - reactions feel legit and scum hunting feels pure.

Em - same as tress

team nullsville

Hoof - needs to post more

Hally - has she even checked in :unsure:

DT - has like 1 post and it was fluff

Dice - has had a few posts, need to go back and iso him to get a good feel either way

Rand - same as Dice

AJ - the push at Tuski D0 felt odd to me. he started spamming then came back to it. he's since explained it and i'm good with it

Tina - appearing to be active in the game and has made some good points, but her latest list looks exactly how Em pointed out

not bob - same as dice

null to scum kids

Nol - the off putting attitude and "how to play" discussion is null. his vote for D1, messing up the code, then voting Verb, then not unvoting before using the code to vote Arsis again pings. light ping (plus its not Wed yet *shrugs*)

Arsis - i dislike his "100% sure you're not town" comment to nol from D0 medium pingage

Vos - his reaction to AJ's "whats scummy about tsuki's post" on D0. it was extremely opportunistic and pings imo medium pingage

TG - not something i can put my finger on directly, its just his entire game feels too .... something just doesn't feel right about his play so far this game in the gut light ping

Tsuki - his game during D0 i'm writing off because we know he had a PR. D1 however is fair game. his reaction to the PM stuff is null, scum or town could react that way. his reaction to the pressure he got is null as well. what pings is the fact he kept pressing on the PM info, it came off as deflection rather than as a defense. then his little english lesson came off as an attempt at goading me into an argument. light ping

defcon level 4 scum!zone

krak - is the reverse of Darthe, but equally off his meta. this post made my hair stand on end 65%

Darthe - the mass claim suggestion from D0 pinged then, and it still pings now. 70%

Dawn - her voting reason on tommy is scummy and seems tmi-y as pointed out earlier http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/90474-advanced-avengers-age-of-ultron-day-1/page-38?do=findComment&comment=3306169 and the fact that she is tunneling on Tommy and not really commenting about anything else, even my vote on her 85%

Xthrax - my ISO is here 83%

lock!scum

nadda for now

WWWwombat · August 4, 2014

Bite me. When is something like that NOT great?
When town is trying to solve the game and someone makes it needlessly complicated with stuff like this?

You laid it on needlessly thick here.

Agreed. Especially for Lenlo.

Random catchup musings -

I claim ownership of the anti-lenlo/lenlo thing. Don't like it, send me a complaint, filed in triplicate. It started about 3 games ago and I will continue it until the joke becomes so unfunny that it becomes funny again.

The PR of having to use Lenlo/Anti-Lenlo stuff is legit. Was given to me too, but mine was somewhat diff from others it seems so I'm inclined to believe people N0.

AJ looks lockclear to me so far. Red's pushing of X is crap but Red still comes out looking townish

Despo looks null, but I agree (sorta) on his point about Nolder and Hoof. However, they could still be 3rd party/recruitable/nerfed roles.

Tommy isn't howling wolf to me so far, but he also isn't screaming town. If he did roll scum I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to lolcat even harder this game since he didn't get lynched for doing it last game. He goof trap is meh.

Darthe looks mild scum salad, Hallia is town lean for the very early "I'm town" proclamation, and Hoof gives me the the creeps.

As for the bwahaha comment, that is like popcorning on steroids. Vos?

[v]Tsuki[/v]

Like that you took ownership of the joke, but the rest of this is meh and the similar avatars started this game, so tracing it back to 3 games ago is a bit of a cop out.

Not impressed by sass. When can we expect more in depth analysis from you?

I don't understand why you're even voting for Tsuki.

Heavy defense of Tsuki, but I kind of agree.

Tommyrod · August 4, 2014

I had a PM convo with Krak that made me feel good about him.

Red2111 · August 4, 2014

what the frak. DM ate my links i had for the posts from krak, Darthe and Dawn i inserted <_<

Arsis · August 4, 2014

Darthe still trying to look like he's playin while spamming it up srsly tho bro, get in the game.

the infamous list

Cool Kids table

Mynd

anways

lock!town goats[/b]

nadda

approaching lock!town

tommy - meta 80%

len - interaction via PR from D0 82%

despo - meta & WIM 70%

womby - gut feel and tone of posts 51%

null to town

tress - reactions feel legit and scum hunting feels pure.

Em - same as tress

team nullsville

Hoof - needs to post more

Hally - has she even checked in

DT - has like 1 post and it was fluff

Dice - has had a few posts, need to go back and iso him to get a good feel either way

Rand - same as Dice

AJ - the push at Tuski D0 felt odd to me. he started spamming then came back to it. he's since explained it and i'm good with it

Tina - appearing to be active in the game and has made some good points, but her latest list looks exactly how Em pointed out

not bob - same as dice

null to scum kids

Nol - the off putting attitude and "how to play" discussion is null. his vote for D1, messing up the code, then voting Verb, then not unvoting before using the code to vote Arsis again pings. light ping (plus its not Wed yet *shrugs*)

Arsis - i dislike his "100% sure you're not town" comment to nol from D0 medium pingage

Vos - his reaction to AJ's "whats scummy about tsuki's post" on D0. it was extremely opportunistic and pings imo medium pingage

TG - not something i can put my finger on directly, its just his entire game feels too .... something just doesn't feel right about his play so far this game in the gut light ping

Tsuki - his game during D0 i'm writing off because we know he had a PR. D1 however is fair game. his reaction to the PM stuff is null, scum or town could react that way. his reaction to the pressure he got is null as well. what pings is the fact he kept pressing on the PM info, it came off as deflection rather than as a defense. then his little english lesson came off as an attempt at goading me into an argument. light ping

defcon level 4 scum!zone

krak - is the reverse of Darthe, but equally off his meta. this post made my hair stand on end 65%

Darthe - the mass claim suggestion from D0 pinged then, and it still pings now. 70%

Dawn - her voting reason on tommy is scummy and seems tmi-y as pointed out earlier http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/90474-advanced-avengers-age-of-ultron-day-1/page-38?do=findComment&comment=3306169 and the fact that she is tunneling on Tommy and not really commenting about anything else, even my vote on her 85%

Xthrax - my ISO is here 83%

lock!scum

nadda for now

But, imagine if nol is scum and I called it that early? I'd look like I'm great at this game. Instead of hopelessly out of my depth.

Tommyrod · August 4, 2014

Are you town or scum? I don't know how to tell.

it's pretty early to have a solid read either way, don't you think?

I like what I'm seeing from you so far; it meshes with my vague meta reads of you.

Keep me updated on whether you're town or scum or something else.

I would love to see my character as scum. It would be pretty sweet. I'm sure it's happened at some point in the comics.

But yeah, town this game.

You?

What's your read on Wombat atm?

He's one of the hardest if not the hardest player for me to read. I told him straight up I think he's scummy and he just said "k" in response which I found even scummier. I think he enjoys having an extremely balanced range. He's someone I'd vig because as town he acts scummy and as scum he acts scummy and I don't think he generally puts in enough effort to be really effective as town? Or maybe I've just never gotten to endgame with him as town/town. Do you think he's a good townie?

I tend to see town Wombat as a good asset, one I wouldn't want to lose.

I think most people around here see him that way, so he tends to be one of the first NK targets.

Huh, I guess I just had a bad mental image of him then. I thought Red was scum until she PMed me and now who frickin knows

I hate trying to read her

I suspect scum will be

1 surprisingly vocal player (like Red)

and

2 semi-scummy players (like a Tsuki or X)

and

2 absent players (like a Dawn or Blackhoof)

WWWwombat · August 4, 2014

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,

Uh-oh, Red playing the field?

bwahahahaha.... this should be great...

Wolfy

See!? This here, ladies and gentlemen!? This is popcorning!

Red just posted a ton of content. Jeez

my thoughts precisely

What's your view on Red right now?

First off, how is saying that a CC is great "popcorning"??

CC's provide GREAT info, which makes them something a townie should want to see, IMO.

But I like how that CC about the PMs is being swept to the side to target me. Who are you protecting?

Not really a CC imo, but whatever.

I don't see why things need to be overly complex here. Tommy fake claimed immediately, is playing to troll and has indicated that he knows things that most likely shouldn't be known by a townie. Strikes me as a clean D1 lynch at the very least.

Maybe because people want to play the game and find the scum? What do you mean by a clean lynch? What do we get if Tommy flips town?

You ignored my Q. It seems bad to me to vote Tsuki over one post that has bad tone while ignoring his follow up posts that sound sincere.

If he is town and digs himself out of the hole, awesome. But you're falling into bad logic. You claim one bad post shouldn't damn him, yet one good post should clear him? No, one bad post should damn someone, and it takes a lot of clearing up to overcome it.

what?

Early game you came after me for knowing that D0 was going to last until Sun night when Mynd had posted that in the sign-up thread. Looked like you were eager to pounce on low hanging fruit. When Tina and Red both cleared it up you never really stepped back and say, "Oh, I was wrong."

1. How about neither?

2. Crazy thin, dude. Like I'd need a mu to tell you how thin this is.

Tommyrod · August 4, 2014

Wombat, I see you share my suspicions of TG. But do you think he could sustain that passionate real-time argument with me if he was scum? I'm asking earnestly, I've only seen one scum game of him (Basel's Star Wars) and it was piss poor but he said not to judge him off that, so can you offer me some perspective?

Darthe · August 4, 2014

@Red, do you think I am not playing or do you think I am scum? You can't seem to decide from one post to the next. Does one equate to the other?

nervositee · August 4, 2014

Computer just lost me my post :dry:

summary: [unvote]

I'll make myself a coffee, put on Iron Man and be back in a minute.

Lenlo · August 4, 2014

Bite me. When is something like that NOT great?

When town is trying to solve the game and someone makes it needlessly complicated with stuff like this?

I had to double-check your name to make sure you were the real Lenlo after I read this. You realize this is the issue I have with you almost every game, right? Did you put on your shiny pro-town hat for this game?

Im trying abit harder this game, refocused like the ME one. Also wanted to make Mynds game good so decided to step it up. Can I get a hat though? With little stars and sparkles on it?

Wombat, I see you share my suspicions of TG. But do you think he could sustain that passionate real-time argument with me if he was scum? I'm asking earnestly, I've only seen one scum game of him (Basel's Star Wars) and it was piss poor but he said not to judge him off that, so can you offer me some perspective?

I know im not Wombat, but ill answer anyways. I dont think he could no. Feel he gets alot more into it as town.

Besides if hes scum or a vig we will know by daylight, cause ill be dead. :P ((Note thats like a 3 game running joke.))

Tommyrod · August 4, 2014

I know im not Wombat, but ill answer anyways. I dont think he could no. Feel he gets alot more into it as town.

Besides if hes scum or a vig we will know by daylight, cause ill be dead. :P ((Note thats like a 3 game running joke.))

That's where I'm leaning on TG as well.

Tsukibana · August 4, 2014

http://getlazarus.com/

Stop losing posts...

WWWwombat · August 4, 2014

I think Tsuki is scummy sounding town. Kinda like NotBob.

Useless comment trying to negotiate the situation.

Except this wasn't two people arguing. It was two people potentially catching another player in a lie (but I don't think it is anyway). His reaction, while poorly written, makes sense in a "yes, busted scum ahahahaha!" way.

Why are you reading Tsuki with the mindset that he is town? Do you know he is town? Only explanation for your behavior, which means that if your second claim after the first claim is true, then I should drop it. But it's too late already in that case.

Maybe he has a "town read?"

I said why I found your catchup post scummy. It's surficial. You make 3 conclusions then ignore them all to vote because of popcorn and tie Vos to voting him for the same reason. Bad. scummy agenda pushing post.

Do you think you could keep up this level of arguing in real time as scum? Serious question.

Kind of mixed feelings on this. It's something I might have thought of had I known Vos' meta that well. In this case, I think the negative of possibly helping Vos tunnel if town or giving him an excuse to tunnel would outweigh the positives from any meta read though.

Who "needlessly complicated" anything?? My statement has absolutely no impact on the veracity of your statements, nor the contradictions that are already showing up in the content of these PMS.

I wasnt referencing you I was referencing Red, and saying your reaction to it wasnt town. Neither is this imo. Your laying it on to thick and it looks like flailing to me.

[v]Tsuki[/v]

You accuse someone of what you have just been accused of and then accuse him of flailing? This might be the worst vote of all time.

BS. I have CONSTANTLY tried to get attention back to the PMs in question. Misrep much?

Quote the posts you have done so SINCE the post where I voted you.

I said why I found your catchup post scummy. It's surficial. You make 3 conclusions then ignore them all to vote because of popcorn and tie Vos to voting him for the same reason. Bad. scummy agenda pushing post.

Do you think you could keep up this level of arguing in real time as scum? Serious question.

Yes it is superficial, I just speed read 50 pages and summarized my notes in a few salient points. And I mentioned Vos because Vos reaction should be very telling about Vos' alignment.

As for the level of argument, your meta on me is wrong which makes your question baseless.

Could it be telling though? If Vos agrees with you and tunnels on Tsuki for today, what does that tell you?

I don't see why things need to be overly complex here. Tommy fake claimed immediately, is playing to troll and has indicated that he knows things that most likely shouldn't be known by a townie. Strikes me as a clean D1 lynch at the very least.

I wanna agree here. Really really really. But at this point, I think all that will lead to is a bitch fight after EndGame. #howtoplayMafia

Logical fallacy. Agree or don't. Postgame doesn't play into it.

Lenlo · August 4, 2014

http://getlazarus.com/

Stop losing posts...

I refuse to use anything thats named after someone who turns people into zombies.

Tsukibana · August 4, 2014

Lazarus WAS the Zombie - Jesus the Necromancer, FTW.

WWWwombat · August 4, 2014

Tsuki really looks to be laying it on thick here imo.

WE ARE ONE!

Second time you've said this. Elaborate plz.

I have to sleep early since I have classes early tomorrow. So, Tommy I'll get back to you on my reads on both of them. As well as what has happened and will happen.

I'll be reading along but I am tired since it's late here. I may or may not post tonight

Did you comment on Tsuki? So many Lenlo avatars.

Shouldn't be a problem according to Xthrax because they have names above them.

Tommyrod · August 4, 2014

We seriously need to be lynching Darthe.

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