[Standard] - Hitchhiker's Game to the Galaxy - Game Over

[hazelkrs1]

Most of my meta stuff was really more in response to Clov, but I did not understand the "at least your frustration seems genuine" opener to your quote... but okay. Me describing my meta is transparency and nothing else. If you want to understand that part better you will when you get to me/Clov the last handful of pages.

 

I thought I was thoroughly misrepresented by your WoT several times over and it pissed me off because you know I prefer to lead (and I think as town I am a fair and reasonable leader) and when people try to sink my clout/discredit me, well, I get displeased. See Geript in the VS game, see a million other examples... but I get that some times you sort of do that and I am fine just wiping the slate clean (or cleaner than it is) for now.

 

Make zero mistake: I am here to lynch Mafia. I'm on page 20 of my reread. My loins ache to lynch Mafia, today, and then curbstomp their whole team so far back into their scumskulls that their QT is just a series of animated gifs of crying adults.

 

I have felt that most of this game you have been working against me despite the fact that we have been parallel on a lot of things. I don't like being worked against in general, but you should understand that when it's coming from you in particular it's more bothersome than most

 

Can't remember what I was originally going to reply to this post with, but </3 @ the clean slate line since it's obvious that didn't happen

 

 

Something I forgot to mention-

 

Cory, I don't know how you expect us to receive that Arthur Dent claim, along with you saying you'll pretty much never role claim. I mean... wth dude? Obv you'd know that claiming a major character as town will likely make mafia wanna NK you anyways in the chance that you are roled, and fake claiming a major character would just be dumdum as town. So I don't follow at all why'd youd character claim like that so quickly, yet act adamant about not role-claiming, when the role-claim would likely get attention off you from townies quicker than a character claim (any game where character claims are allowed I expect the mod to hand out fake claims, so in other words I completely disregard any character claims I see).

 

I'm kinda worried that Clov might have made an excellent point, about how you character claimed quickly in the WWE game but didn't role claim (when you we're scum)

 

I dislike this argument for one major reason:

 

In WWE I character claimed Day 3 with a comparative investigator result on me, was basically being lynched and was trying to weasel out of it in any way I could.

 

Let's say I'm Mafia this game and Arthur Dent is one of our supplied fakeclaims. How much of a selfish prick do I have to be to draw a huge amount of attention to myself by blowing up @ you, then going to my Mafia QT and taking our "great" fakeclaim away from the rest of my team because I couldn't defuse the pressure myself?

 

There are basically two reasons I ever claim A) I'm Mafia and about to get lynched and am trying to buy time / lead the lynch away from me B) I'm so frustrated with someone I want to show them how wrong they are

 

That's basically it

 

Bold: That's wifom and you know it. For all I know you could be scum and have an important role, or thought you needed to stay alive longer, so figured you'd take the golden fake claim.

 

Italics: Okay well you get that that's a ridiculous reason to claim, right? Claiming just to show someone "how wrong they are" is incredibly immature and antitown as well. As town, you should only claim when it help's further the town's interests. Claiming for such a petty reason is not helpful in any way.

 

 

Also comparing me to geript was pretty shitty and completely off the mark. Show me one post I've made this game that had even a SMIDGEON of the shitposting he became infamous for.

 

You should really reread your post @ me because it's seriously lolbad

 

 

You're not gonna like this, but:

 

 

 

 

Still you tho

 

 

 

This is pretty much where I decide to firmly put you in the red Cory. This little jab at me is just completely unnecessary.

 

My post wasn't "lolbad" or even close really. And it's still NOWHERE near the kind of terribad posts geript made that last game- they weren't lolbad posts because they were weak cases, the dude wasn't even TRYING to case, was just saying someone sucks at life and crap. I never came close to talking like that.

 

Like, I was less mad about Geript because I don't know Geript as a player and I didn't realize how legitimately poorly he could play as a villager

 

I don't have low standards for you

 

Again, an unnecessary potshot @ my play this game. I don't think I've played my best game ever so far, but it's far from bad like you're making it out to be.

 

Also don't like how you're treating me as derptown instead of potential scum. Pretty sure you're scum bro.

 

 

I don't understand why you reacted the way you did. In Blood Bowl, your reaction didn't necessarily seem appropriate, but I also kinda understood WHY you reacted the way you did- Tommy WAS being kinda antagonistic to you. I've thrown a couple little jabs your way, but they were meant to be received with love. I haven't thrown any jabs when I seriously laid out my thoughts on you.

 

 

Yo.

 

Cory I have soooooo much difficulty seeing how you think Thane is villa. Not only does he look fairly scummy to me this game, he's also new so reading him really won't be that easy. His vote on Dice was wretched.

 

In fact- [unvote] , [v]Thane[/v]

 

If he flips scum, its official Cory CANNOT BE TRUSTED THIS GAME

 

I did not receive this with love nor did I think love was the intent behind it

"Cory has a villager lean I don't like! Let's vote him, and Cory should be held responsible for his alignment!"

 

I might MQ the other posts that bother me as I reread but I might not because honestly every time you post my desire to play this game deflates and my stomach turns

 

 

Sorry if my humor there was disguised too well, but it was meant partially in jest. If Thane turned out to be scum this game, yes, I would feel even worse about your alignment. But I put the stuff in all caps to act over-the-top about it, I figured you would have picked up on that.

 

/shrug

[hazelkrs1]

FYI that post took roughly 40 mins to retrieve and then post again. So you're welcome. And I lost all the other quotes I had grabbed earlier.

 

@ my laptop

[Lazy]

Ok. First. I play from my phone during the week so quoting and reading is not easy. Also I am lazy (not just my name) so I CBF going back to do those massive posts claiming every word someone said is bad and good. If you dont like it, kill me and I dont need to play. You lose a townie and put scumballs onestep clloser to winning (tigerblood).

 

Nyn. In regards to the mammoth thing you posting stating a lot of jokes and not much else. Well, if you look at my playstyle in other games (need to go back about 8 years to a diff forum) then that is how I play. Also, in other areas on DM, I am a jokester and cant take life seriously. So be it. 

 

Also, I have a list of who I think and dont think is whatever, but since I dont play mafia here the only people I can remember playing against are Verbal and dice. So my list will probably be more of a random shot in the dark and based on truly random useless sh*t because why not. I dont know how anyone else in the game plays so its all fair in love and war.

 

Cory & Des - You two are goats (not in the way its used here). More in the terms you keep butting heads and look funny. Love it. I will assume town because I want to see you guys keep poking at each other. So either make up or keep fighting. Its funny either way :)

 

 

 

RTE - Town. He is a Habs fan. We stick together. Habs for life.

 

BFG, AJ, Thane - You are archers. I am cav (from the Band). The rivalry states that you must be scum till proven innocent. And I couldnt stand an archer getting the best of me :) So Null/Scum

AJ - Voted for Verb for no real reason around page 42 (yay 42). What was that about. I know I have a vote on Verb. But that was a truly verbal vote for me. I dont trust verb. He is town but I wanted to see if someone would jump on the bandwagon or defend him. 

 

Dice - I am still unsure. I love the guy but think he might be solo/scum. 

 

Pral, Tina, & Leelou - Never played with you before. We can share our toys and have a playdate if you want :) Null

Clov - What is with this Fishdyx thing? Null

 

Verb - He is my mentor and overlord. All bow to the mighty verbal. Just watch out if he starts posting poetry. Town

Nyn - Original thoughts were you were bouncy and fun. Still think that. But maybe a bit thorny underneath too. Rawr. Town/Null/Solo temptress?

 

Vos - I got nothing. 

 

Is that good enough? Can I get back to the jokes. P.s. wont be around till Monday as I am going ice skating and movies tomorrow. Soz but RL is more important.

 

 

What does FoS mean? I see these acronyms and just go huh?

[dicetosser1]

FOS = finger of suspicion lazy.

 

 

 

 

 

leelou  I thought i answered all clovs questions. let me know which ones you reckon i didnt but know that I dont care if you think I give the "right" answers

 

Sure, Dice. Here is the exchange: 

 

I don't think the "Who's Online" list tells you literally nothing, but I actually don't have a problem with Dice suggesting it doesn't mean anything.  It's not uncommon for me to leave it open while I do other things on the computer so I see where he's coming from.

 

That said, you're going to need to do better than just a claim if you want to convince me, Dice.  I obviously disagree with your case on Leelou, and I don't like how it's more or less predicated on you ignoring/overlooking/not remembering others doing the EXACT same thing.  If Leelou's suggestion implies that she had extra knowledge, what are your current thoughts on Andre and Verbal?  Based on Mish's early posts, do you think Leelou was wrong to identify the possibility of a restriction? 

 

Beyond that, who would you be interested exploring as the lynch candidate today?  Barring a new case, I don't see Leelou being the lynch today - and I sure as hell don't think she ought to be.  If you're town, show us what else you have.

 

 

 Ajs posts this game say he is town to me. Verbal i have a town lean on. Im pretty certain with AJ  not so much with verb. Thats mostly cause i can read AJ decently well but not verb.  I also have Cory as town and   as always the jury is out on Des just cause i have learnt not to trust him unless im the cop and have viewed him.

 

 

^^  is working and answering as i can.

 

 

depends clov   as i said leelou is the one that sticks out to me.  Id probably suggest Halia or if i wanted to do a Nolder then Pral.  But i dont really have any good reasons for either.

 

 

as i said earlier I saw mish's posts as being excited about the theme. I never thought post restriction.  In fact i find all the talk about post restrictions weird cause imo post restrictions are rare on DM so i dont get why suddenly everyones going on about post restrictions in this game.

 

 

 

 Ajs posts this game say he is town to me. Verbal i have a town lean on. Im pretty certain with AJ  not so much with verb. Thats mostly cause i can read AJ decently well but not verb.  I also have Cory as town and   as always the jury is out on Des just cause i have learnt not to trust him unless im the cop and have viewed him.

 

^^  is working and answering as i can.

 

 

depends clov   as i said leelou is the one that sticks out to me.  Id probably suggest Halia or if i wanted to do a Nolder then Pral.  But i dont really have any good reasons for either.

 

Leelou is the one that sticks out as scum, you're pretty certain AJ is town, and you're not so certain Verbal is town.  I can see both of those, and it's about where I am at this point, but I don't get why you feel so much better about them when they actually pointed out potential post restrictions BEFORE Leelou did...and she's your strongest scum read, mainly FOR that reason.  How do you go from one extreme (AJ) to the other (Leelou) when he's "guilty" of the same offense? 

 

as i said earlier I saw mish's posts as being excited about the theme. I never thought post restriction.  In fact i find all the talk about post restrictions weird cause imo post restrictions are rare on DM so i dont get why suddenly everyones going on about post restrictions in this game.

 

I have two issues with this post:

 

1: The bold - That doesn't really answer what I asked.  Look back at it now.  Now that you know what it was based off of, do you think Leelou's observation is wrong, or was she just objectively wrong and there's no way she could have reasonably come to the conclusion she did without prior knowledge? 

 

2: The red - I don't know.  Ask your town reads.

 

 

You never addressed the last post here at all and you danced around answering Clov's questions. 

 

Also, Hallia is the easiest lynch to push in almost any game because this is how she is. Any other options? 

 

 

Actually the bit u highlighted was supposed to answer that question.  I think it unlikely she came to that conclusion just thru reason. post restrictions are rare enough here that i dont think its something you just click to unless its like "hodor" obvious. Can i say definitively that she didnt reason it out that way??  of course not...im not in her head. I just think it unlikely.

 

 

happy now leelou?  i doubt you are  and you probably think im wrong.

[Lazy]

Ah thanks dice.

So I can now finger people suspiciously. Awesome. Who wants to be fingered by lazy first?

[hazelkrs1]

FOS = Finger Of Suspicion, to let someone (and the thread) know you've got your eye on them, even if you're not voting them

 

And there's something srs wrong with my laptop btw. Been trying to diagnose the problem for a while now, not really any closer to anything being fixed. Def won't MQ on my phone, but I might have to post solely from there soon, so if I do expect a lot of annoying single quote posts

[Leelou]

[unvote]

 

TY Dice. Now, can I get a couple more people you think are acting shady? 

 

LOL @ Cory...I'm sorry, but why on earth do you think my vote on Tina is serious? I am the queen of joke voting/spamming in a game until I get into it. Our votes were votes of This is why I say you don't really know me. If Darthe was in this game, guess who I would have voted first? Am I right, Des? 

[Pralaya]

Minor point but interesting that Pral separates himself from townies in this post.

And I guess once again I fins myself on the unpopular side of the fence but meh.

 

What makes you think that Des's initial vote on Clov was a joke/reaction test?

 

Why are you using Tommy's meta on Clov from a game where Tommy was wrong about Clov's alignment to help shape your read?

 

Pretty sure Cory reference Thane's self read.s

 

 

Clov's post that Des quoted in his vote was a joke post, where Clov advocates lynching all guys. It was pretty obvious Des was playing along with it, along with probably testing his reaction. I will put it back to you. Why do you think it was not a joke vote?

 

Regarding Clov, I have played only two games with him and Tommy's meta read on him was on the spot. I don't see that it is happening in this game. And, hence the initial read. 

[Leelou]

 

 

 

[v]Leelou[/v]

 

?

 

Not feeling it. We should try something else.

 

 

Why are you responding to Verbs vote but not Tina's?

 

Well, if you had followed our conversation, we were joking about our meta right before then. No reason to comment on Tina's vote since I had joke voted her first. 

 

 

Here you go, Cory. 

[dicetosser1]

Ah thanks dice.

So I can now finger people suspiciously. Awesome. Who wants to be fingered by lazy first?

 

Hey!!  i know where that finger has been!

[Leelou]

 

Just spent the last few hours reading the whole game and getting some sort of narrative. 

 

First, yes, I am not an active player D1 because I tend to need some information on hand before getting a good read on players. D1 is more of tone and assumptions which I am not very comfortable with. 

 

Second, I get a lot of info by reading the thread as a whole rather than post by post. Which is probably why I have only a 

bunch of posts D1 in almost all my games. It will exponentially increase as the game progresses, but there we are.

 

Anyway, back to the reads. Let me get my good town reads out of the way.

 

Des - I see him trying to explore a lot of avenues, which he does a lot as town. In this game, he started out with Clov which was somewhat of a joke/reaction test vote. Then he votes Leelou and his case on her was pretty straightforward at the time and lately Dice. He is not throwing darts but more of having a stance on each of his suspects, which is a good towntell on him.

 

Clov - I can sense that he is not overdoing the questioning routine that Tommy pointed out the in Real Genius game. His stance on Dice again has been good and not the nudgy type I saw when I was scummate with him

 

Thane - I don't agree with Des about him overdoing the newbie meta. His tone feels genuine. Have played only one game with him, his first game where he was scum. Maybe he has changed his gameplay as he is more experienced now. Nobody noticed it but a big LOL at reading himself here. 

 

Verbal - Yeah, I am not seeing the lurky scum meta in this game. He is a bit aggressive, had a good back-and-forth with Cory regarding his tonereads. He is not hiding in the background as he usually does as scum. Town on him 

 

That are my current town reads as of now. I will get back on the rest of the players tomorrow as i spent a way lot of time reading the game and it is already 2:00 AM here. First thing after I wake up.

 

Continuing from where I left yesterday.

 

Among the rest, following are the null but slightly leaning town group

 

Cory - His play has been slightly different here. He is doing a lot of "POE the town reads" which he does every game, whether he is town or scum. But, I don't see the aggressiveness that he goes after his people which looks like he is still trying to solve. He was easily sheeping off other scum reads in the RG game and voting the trains, which is missing here. However, the absolute lack of a stance or vote on anyone make me feel a bit iffy because it looks like he is intentionally trying to avoid it - and this is what pushes him to null.

 

Mish/Vos - She plays quite carefully as scum and doing those subtle nudges. Her vote on Leelou was not her trying to blend in but actually going after her reads. There were other points brought out by others - her "you target when I am sleeping" comment was basically null and I don't see why it has got as much attention.

 

Tina - I liked this post from her where she seems quite frank about her fence-sitting. However, her vote on Dice seemed slightly out of the blue but considering that she has mainly commented on Dice, Mish and leelou so far, I can get why she voted her

 

Dice - Dice is always hard to read because his posts usually comes off as scummy. He doesn't explain things very well and goes after what others have already said. However, I can sympathise with him because I find myself in the same situation - where we are not on real time conversation with others and are mostly catching up. That said, he has claimed as scum in some games before and as someone suggested, Watcher could also be a scum (given Csarmi's setups, this is a good possibility). However, as of now, I can believe his claim and he will soon be caught later if he is lying.

 

AJ - His reads have looked straightforward, including the one on mine (which I will address in a later post). I am not liking him doing a wagonomics analysis before we have got any flips, but can see the intent. Ties to what Cory went after me in the RG game - about conditional reads. Slightly looks more like he has some information that others don't and setting up based on that.

 

Now, on to the truly NULL read

 

Lazy - I haven't seen him giving any read at all in the game. I resonate with his style in that D1 is a poopfest and about not sharing when it is not needed. If I am not getting any reads in D2 or further when there is a lot of information to base it on, then I will get suspicious

 

Then, the actual Null to slightly scum reads.

 

BFG - I was hydra with her on the Mass Effect game and I could see the difference in her WoTs in that game. Des has already mentioned it but her WoTs are there because it needs to be there. Rather than truly focusing on the gameplay. I can see her trying to hide in her WoTs

 

RTE - His fencesitting on Dice didn't sit well with me. His vote on Dice   came quite opportunistically and he starts fencesitting on him saying that he has difficulty in reading Dice . His play seems to be very safe so far. 

 

Hallia - Her vote on Mish was basically sheeping on what others said andfocusing on a minor point about Mish's sleeping statement. Looks like a forced vote and not liking that. Again, playing very safe not trying to have a hard stance on a lot of people. 

 

Leelou - She has been in both Mish and Dice wagons and the votes have not looked convincing. She seems to buddy Verbal a lot, which is kind of normal that she would but I am not seeing a genuine read of her on him. Like when she explains her read on everyone but verbal or liking a post just for the heck of it. 

 

Nynaeve - I don't see why a lot of people have a townread on her. From my read on her, she is looking like someone who is doing a lot of FoS but not pursuing it a lot, which seems to like setting up for future days. Starte off with AJ but apart from a couple of conevrsations with AJ, doesn't take it further. And, suspecting Mish and taking it a bit ahead but never voting her. The only stance she had was on Dice but she unvoted him even when she is iffy on him and even after arguing on a very minor point. I think there were some FoS on verbal and Des too in her gameplay, from what I remember. I also see her defending Leelou a lot, which I am feeling slightly iffy with. Overall, I feel that she is talking from the sidelines in most issues and her only strong stance was on Dice which she is currently fence-sitting.

 

 

I know what it was about this list. It's Mostly with Nyn and Tina.

 

Points on Nyn I don't agree with is where he is trying to paint her scummy for not voting someone she is FoSing and then saying that she was defending me a lot. He's also questioning her unvoting someone claiming a power role. Also, if it were D2 and on, I'd be more wary of her just throwing around a lot of FoS and not following through on anything, not the beginning of the game. 

 

Tina's vote on Dice seemed natural and not out of the blue or forced. She's also been more in the thread and being inquisitive. She shies away from that as scum. 

 

On BFG - what specifically do you think is off in her WoT's that she's hiding behind them? 

[Pralaya]

I am not "painting" her scummy, I am finding her scummy because of the above mentioned reasons. If you are going to use it in that way, I can construe your post as trying to "paint me scummy". See how that works?

 

Also, no. A lot of FoS, nudging are usually done on D1 when the scum wants to avoid being as train starters or bring attention to themselves. Not necessarily D2. It is especially the beginning of the game when I am interested in these things.

 

Tina, that's why I have her as null to town lean. BFG, as mentioned, is looking to be making WoT just for the heck of it. Not a lot of specific reads or analysis. The way she does as town.

[Thane Vakarian]

Leelou, Pral: could you give me the names of people you think are most scummy for the moment? thanks

[Pralaya]

What I mentioned in the post where I gave reads. RTE, BFG, Leelou, Nyn and Hallia in that order.

[Pralaya]

Now that we have it, [v]RTE[/v] too.

[Thane Vakarian]

Thanks Pral, it'll help me through the thread a bit.

[Thane Vakarian]

and, i did do the read on myself on purpose like that

[Thane Vakarian]

http://www.kasteelhoensbroek.nl/en/node/1314199

 

this is the main reason i'm not that active in the game. I'm part of the organisation, and it's down to the last couple of days of preperation.

 

But, i'll be around and read, no worries.

[csarmi]

Votecount 1.10

 

Verbal: 1 - Lazy

Dice: 2 - Thane, Tina

Thane: 1 - Despo

Cory: 1 - Clov

Despo: 1 - Cory

Hallia: 2 - Andrej, Dice

Lazy: 1 - Nyn

RTE: 1 - Pralaya

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

 

Not voting: BFG, Verbal, Hally, Nervositee, RTE, Leelou

 

Deadline Saturday 7 pm GMT - Day 1 deadline

[BFG]

 

Minor point but interesting that Pral separates himself from townies in this post.

 

And I guess once again I fins myself on the unpopular side of the fence but meh.

 

What makes you think that Des's initial vote on Clov was a joke/reaction test?

 

Why are you using Tommy's meta on Clov from a game where Tommy was wrong about Clov's alignment to help shape your read?

 

Pretty sure Cory reference Thane's self read.s

 

Clov's post that Des quoted in his vote was a joke post, where Clov advocates lynching all guys. It was pretty obvious Des was playing along with it, along with probably testing his reaction. I will put it back to you. Why do you think it was not a joke vote?

 

Regarding Clov, I have played only two games with him and Tommy's meta read on him was on the spot. I don't see that it is happening in this game. And, hence the initial read.

 

Lol, are you even reading the thread? Or my posts? Seriously actually. Especially since your read of me is based on my posts being 'off'.

 

I've highlighted the relevant part for you in the spoiler below. I've also repeated the quote several times in my conversation with Des if you read my actual posts. So since you've read my posts to think that they're 'off' how have you missed this conversation? He's also not reading Des's posts to have missed both the initial comment and the follow up conversation with me.

 

Tommy read Clov wrong in that game, so his meta read on Clov is off, based on that one game. I have no problem with you referencing a game in which you played together as evidence, but I don't understand how using Tommy's meta is

 

This looks a lot like sheeping somebody else read (Des on me) without actually doing any work, specifically Pral says that my posts are off and lacking the detail he'd expect. Since he's missed point I've made repeatedly, even before his initial read, it looks to me like he's not actually reading the thread and making his reads based on other peoples opinions. This isn't a TownPral.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

 

 

Ok, this is the Clov/Des thing I've been trying to explain, in all it's gory detail. Some quotes are going to be a bit repetitive I'm afraid, since I've quoted them a few times to try and make my point.

 

I will spoiler it though.

 

A lot of posts have had quotes deleted for clarity.

 

 

 

 

So this is Clov's first post referencing a joke. Note that this is his OP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

 

This is Des's first post referencing the same thing.

 

 

 

Lets lynch all girls and leave me with all the guys ^_^

 

 

 

Nyn

I looked up how to lynch all the girls in the Guide, and it said "don't".

 

*snerk*

 

Mish won

 

 

 

 

Des carries on catching up and votes Clov. I initially assumed it was a joke vote.

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea. Now lynching other dudes? THAT I can get behind.

^Scum

 

[v]Clovfish[/v]

 

 

However here he states that it was a genuine mafia read. The problem with this is that Des is voting Clov for something he did as well.

 

And a random smattering of other stuff:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

 

Fwiw this was the post which earlier made me feel Clov might be scum- he references a joke that was already old by this point. To me it looked like scum trying to fit in with the jokey atmosphere but not reacting in the moment

 

Since then however he has looked much townier to me, he has followed up on stuff worth following up on, is asking questions and engaging others, but not being opportunistic about it. He's one of my stronger town reads now in fact.

 

 

Which I try to point out here.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3253061

 

Ok, Des says this is the quote that gave him a mafia read on Clove

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fwiw this was the post which earlier made me feel Clov might be scum- he references a joke that was already old by this point. To me it looked like scum trying to fit in with the jokey atmosphere but not reacting in the moment

 

 

 

Since then however he has looked much townier to me, he has followed up on stuff worth following up on, is asking questions and engaging others, but not being opportunistic about it. He's one of my stronger town reads now in fact.

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

 

 

 

 

Lets lynch all girls and leave me with all the guys ^_^

 

 

 

Nyn

I looked up how to lynch all the girls in the Guide, and it said "don't".

 

*snerk*

 

Mish won

 

 

Yet Des's first post references the same thing and comes after Clov's.

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea. Now lynching other dudes? THAT I can get behind.

^Scum

 

[v]Clovfish

 

And his vote to complete the sequence.

 

 

I'm not following Des much at all yet.

 

 

 

Des's first response is basically to discredit me. Although to be fair he later responds more fully.

 

BFG most likely aint town. Meta read, but her wot's are completely off. She'll wot as town or scum, but as town her wots are filled with questions and her looking for small things others may have missed. As scum she'll just sheep stuff others have said and respond to OT stuff a lot. This meta is extremely reliable btw- I have correctly read her the past ~5 games I've been in with her. I'll respond to her stuff towards me specifically if I get the chance. Suffice it to say however, that she has risen high on my scumdar since.

 

 

Gonna go ahead and spoiler this wall, has a lot of good stuff tho:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3253061

 

Ok, Des says this is the quote that gave him a mafia read on Clove

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

 

 

*snerk*

 

Mish won

 

Yet Des's first post references the same thing and comes after Clov's.

 

(my vote on Clov when I first joined game)

 

And his vote to complete the sequence.

 

 

I'm not following Des much at all yet.

 

 Uh, you serious? Pretty obvious what the difference is here. Clov posts during the day, like a normal person. I post at night, like a vampire. He is able to react to everything realtime, minus the occasional ninja, I catch up on everything after most action has died down already. I kinda like just posting as I catch up lately, makes it very organic and hopefully lets others see me as town sooner, so I first reacted to Mish's post, then several pages later saw Clov talking about the joke. Wasn't much, but to me at the time it looked like it coulda been Clov trying to react naturally to banter but not doing it in the moment, moar catching up to everyone else. Plus, in this way scum can extend earlier joke conversations.

 

 

So here he's saying that the difference between his post and Clov's was that Clov can post in the moment while Des is playing catch up. Problem is that this is Clov's first post, so him saying it's Clov trying to react normally to banter, but failing doesn't make any sense, since Clov is effectively playing catch up as well.

 

 

Uh, you serious? Pretty obvious what the difference is here. Clov posts during the day, like a normal person. I post at night, like a vampire. He is able to react to everything realtime, minus the occasional ninja, I catch up on everything after most action has died down already. I kinda like just posting as I catch up lately, makes it very organic and hopefully lets others see me as town sooner, so I first reacted to Mish's post, then several pages later saw Clov talking about the joke. Wasn't much, but to me at the time it looked like it coulda been Clov trying to react naturally to banter but not doing it in the moment, moar catching up to everyone else. Plus, in this way scum can extend earlier joke conversations.

Above is Deep's response to me...

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

This is Clov's first post... incidentally about 40 minutes before Des's OP

 

 

Which again I try to point out.

 

That being said, you were right about Leelou responding to Verbal before I thought she did. Missed that. And eh, I guess I can see your point regarding my initial suspicion of Clov. But, like I've said before, being hypocritical doesn't necessarily make you scum. I will often fos others for doing stuff I do all the time. Sort of a "Do as I say, not as I do" situation.

This is Des's most recent response. And now he says he's being hypocritical, but makes no mention of trying to pass it off earlier as Clov being slow to respond, which implies that he's been in thread and posting.

 

But this doesn't jive with what he said earlier, or maybe he's still missing my point. Clov's first post was him playing catch up, so Des's entire reason for voting is null and void. If Des missed that it was Clov's first post than fine just say so. Or if he was being hypocritical why not say so first instead of trying to sell Clov extending joke/being slow to respond?

 

 

 

TLDR: Clov enters thread with a response to Nyn's joke, Des enters the thread with the same thing. Des later votes Clov for the joke and later explains that it was a genuine mafia read. I question him and he says that it's because Des is playing catch up while Clov can play real time. I point out that it was Clov's OP and Des says, being hypocritical doesn't make him mafia.

 

Being hypocritical doesn't make him mafia, but I don't understand why it took so long to get to an answer.

 

[BFG]

VCs mot looking great for a DM weekend deadline, so I'll reread and see if I want to move my vote. But I'd appreciate it if anyone else on can read my post above and tell me how Pral's reads and comments don't contradict themselves.

[csarmi]

The deadline will not be extended. There is 6.5h left. Enjoy.

[csarmi]

Votecount 1.11

 

Verbal: 1 - Lazy

Dice: 2 - Thane, Tina

Thane: 1 - Despo

Cory: 1 - Clov

Despo: 1 - Cory

Hallia: 2 - Andrej, Dice

Lazy: 1 - Nyn

RTE: 1 - Pralaya

Pralaya: 1 - BFG

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

 

Not voting: Verbal, Hally, Nervositee, RTE, Leelou

 

Deadline Saturday 7 pm GMT - Day 1 deadline

[hazelkrs1]

[unvote]

 

[Thunderdome][v]Cory[/v][/Thunderdome]

 

Seen enough from Cory to make me.believe that he's scum. He continued the histrionics while responding to me tonight (sorry I couldn't respond to everything btw y'all, laptop is on the fritz), which doesn't seem as believable if he was town- I think he would have calmed down and answered in a reasonable manner eventually. So def thinking he went emo meltdown to try and ward people off him, using a good fake claim in the process, or trying to fish out the real Dentarthurdent.

 

Also think he's being way too arbitrary in his handling of his main two attackers- says Clov makes sense where I don't, even tho Clov was partially supporting some of my points (his meta thing was all him tho, he's seen Cory more times as scum), and Clov was actually voting Cory, whereas I was still voting my main scum suspect at the time, Thane (and oooh there were some more posts of Thane's I was going to shred.... were my laptop not fracking useless).

 

In addition, he recently said he was moving on from me, and had even seen some villa posts from me while rereading, yet..... he left his vote parked on me. It all just stinks to high heaven.

[hazelkrs1]

I'd present an actual fully fledged case were I able to.... Bleurgh I H8 my stoopid tech.

 

Will try and respond to posts one at a time however.