[Advanced] Red Wedding Mafia - Post Game, MakersMark

[_CLOUD]

I have finally arrived to answer your questions.

DAWNFLOWER WoT pt. 2 The girl who must hide no longer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

##Unvote

##Vote Mistress

 

Wanna do me a solid and vote for Mynd?

If you don't care at all who you are voting for anyway, why don't you sheep players who are really trying to  make some headway?

 

I would love to see you take a stand that isn't just a wagon vote.

 

The deadline's in like 20 minutes, we've got to lynch someone. And if I vote someone that very few other people have, that wouldn't be doing much.

 

Mynd has a heap of votes.

 

This is a HYBRID HAMMER game, which means whoever has the most votes at end of phase is lynched. Majority does not matter.

 

Oh.

 

 

I explain the hybrid hammer aspect of the game. Stays on Mish because it's "better than not doing much".

 

 

Dawn - try answering that question for yourself first.

 

Off topic: Spurs looking kinda bad right now 

Oh wait. Last game Tommy attacked me, he was scum.

 

 

Second FOS is @ Tommy for attacking her about 60 pages too late.

 

 

I'm about to move my vote to Dawn and leave it there.

 

Anyone care to join me?

 

Play or eat rope. I know you are new(ish) but you aren't playing this game at all. It doesn't bode well for your alignment.

I've been busy today. Sorry. And I've been getting very confused in this thread. 

 

So you want to vote me only because I'm inactive, or do you actually think I'm scum? (for a reason other than me being inactive)

 

 

Once again is SUPER sensitive about her perception and is trying to get rationale for a vote on her.

 

This is too late in the game for her to not try and handle someone being aggressive with her, but she's being deliberate in not trying to make an enemy in AJ.

 

I'm just not sure who I think is scum. Nobody has said anything that seems particularly scummy to me. I will admit that my last vote was just a bandwagon vote and I had no reason for voting her besides me wanting to get rid of my joke vote on Red (who I don't find scummy at all)

 

And I'm confused about all the random, non-game related meme stuff getting mixed up with what's important. It makes it difficult for me to figure out what is actually important and what is just silliness. Even a lot of things that look serious end up turning into some sort of joke.

 

"I wanted to get rid of my joke vote on Red" = 

 

Now swings to the opinion that Red is "not scummy at all", which reads more to me like Dawn is saying she thinks Red has been townie. Okay?

 

Decries the thread for not being serious enough, ala her OP.

 

 

 

So Dawn, when you get to this post... let's talk.

 

Both me/AJ, Tommy and Hallia have pointed at your posts and said you looked scummy.

 

I want to hear your voice. If you are town, you need to use it.

 

What do you think of me and AJ this game? I'm laying this all out for you directly. I think you're Mafia - please respond to that statement directly.

 

What do you think of Tommy this game? He's tried to interact with you several times and has been rebuffed.

 

What do you think of Hallia this game? I specifically remember her calling you out early in the game and you never replying to her.

 

1. I know you think I'm Mafia. You are wrong. I have a slight town lean on you two, but am not completely sure.

2. I'm 90% sure Tommy is town. He's playing completely differently from the last game we were in, where he was scum, and has not said anything notably scummy.

3. I don't think Hallia has said much about me, or has posted much at all. I might be wrong and just wasn't paying attention. The only thing I know about her is that she thinks I'm scum. She doesn't seem scummy to me at this point but I'll look at more of her posts.

A few more questions:

 

You voted Mish near EOD for pure consolidation purposes and to "get your vote off Red".

 

For someone who was lost in the thread, why did you feel it was important for you to join the Day's leading wagon?

 

Did you feel you were capable of making an informed decision on who was scum for that day?

 

Did you believe Mish would flip Mafia?

 

(more formatting grr) 

1. Yeah, that's pretty much why. A stupid reason, I know.

2. I'm not sure. I just didn't want to vote Red, and if I didn't vote for Mish it would look like a completely random vote since I had no real reads at the time. 

3. Not really, but I think Mish was more likely of being scum than Red was. 

4. I thought is was about a 50/50 chance.

 

Dawn has just moved down my list. I'm now leaning scum on her.

[Leelou]

 

Official Vote Count:

Mynd (5/9): Cory, NyanCat, Megaloud, Jack, X

Verbalina (1/9): CrayJay

Krak (1/9): Tommy

Jack (1/9): Yates

 

Not Voting (8/16):

Krak, Len, Dawn, Verbalina, Halleeloujah, Dice, Red, Mynd

 

57 Hours til Night

 

 

 

 

I need the following people to post more please.  

 

Hallia 24 TinaHel 23 Krakalakachkn 17 dicetosser1 14 Zanube 4 Kathleen 2

 

Last vote count. Has much changed since this? Why is there not Dawn or Megacloud train? 

[Leelou]

##vote Megacloud

[_CLOUD]

One does not simply start a train on MegaCloud.

[_CLOUD]

##vote Megacloud

 

>.>

[Leelou]

One does not simply start a train on MegaCloud.

 

Me thinks me just did. 

[Tommyrod]

My vote is failing to intimidate anyone. I am disappoint.

[Leelou]

My vote is failing to intimidate anyone. I am disappoint.

 

You are going to have to wait maybe a day and a half for Krak to catch up and realize he has some pressure. And then he'll have more of a convo with Nolder. 

[Tommyrod]

 

 

My vote is failing to intimidate anyone. I am disappoint.

You are going to have to wait maybe a day and a half for Krak to catch up and realize he has some pressure. And then he'll have more of a convo with Nolder.

LOL

 

I'm sure there are scum lurkers, but I feel bad when I mislynch the people who are busy or disinterested. So I want these charlatans to post more before I give them the business. Ballot business.

[Cory Caboose]

Thumbs up, Leelou

[Tommyrod]

She probably had the best catch-all reads list so far.

[Tommyrod]

When do players get more active? Monday evening?

[dawnflower8]

Dawn, the last time you spoke about me, you said I was scum because I pushed you as scum in the twilight game. What changed your mind since then?

I never said you were scum or thought that.

 

 

2. I'm 90% sure Tommy is town. He's playing completely differently from the last game we were in, where he was scum, and has not said anything notably scummy.

 

 

Oh wait. Last game Tommy attacked me, he was scum.

 

What has changed for you in the last 20 pages? You FoSed Tommy pretty recently.

 

I wasn't actually accusing him of being scum there. That was just a fact. Someone else thought Tommy was scum because he attacked me, I thought that was a stupid reason but then I figured out why THEY would think he was scum. 

[Tommyrod]

Oi.

[Leelou]

Dawn - what do you think of the players? Who is scum and who is town? Can you go outside the realm of just answering questions about you, defending and doing a 180 on Tommy? If you can't my scum read on you will not change. 

[Tommyrod]

Dawn: it is not my intention to shame you or discourage you from playing. But it's frustrating when you don't share your thought process with the rest of us. I have to guess whether you are town or scum because you don't give us enough data to parse. If you are a townie, do not feel embarrassed if you're not confident in your thoughts or scum suspects. If you are scum, carry on.

[Andrej]

Happy Monday

 

I'm off to school here in a few so I'm just checking in, looking forward to browsing the next content.

 

I'm beginning to feel uncomfortable with how many are clearing Crayjay & co.

 

Silly scum.

[Andrej]

New content*

[Leelou]

When do players get more active? Monday evening?

 

People should start trickling in throughout the day. 

[_CLOUD]

Happy Monday

 

I'm off to school here in a few so I'm just checking in, looking forward to browsing the next content.

 

I'm beginning to feel uncomfortable with how many are clearing Crayjay & co.

 

Silly scum.

 

Good morning sunshine

[dawnflower8]

Dawn - what do you think of the players? Who is scum and who is town? Can you go outside the realm of just answering questions about you, defending and doing a 180 on Tommy? If you can't my scum read on you will not change. 

Krak - Mixed, very slight scum lean

MegaLoud - Slight scum lean

Crayjay - Town lean

Lenlo - I'm not sure

X - Pretty sure is town

Jack - Scum lean

Princess Verbalina - null

Halleeloujah - Mixed

Dice - Null

Zanube - I have no idea

Red - Probably town

Nyankat - slight scum lean

Mynd - Mixed

Tommy -Is almost certainly town

Yates - I'm 99.9% sure he is town. He's the most town layer in the game.

 

Yeah, I don't have that good of reads yet. I'm not that confident for most of these. There's no one who I think is almost for sure scum at this point. 

[_CLOUD]

Mish is dead-on here. Cloud has a particularly terrible EOD where he refuses to vote Mish when votes start coming in.

 

Pot meet kettle:

 

 

 

Can we try to lynch Mafia instead of deciding which probtown to lynch?

 

We should all be voting Mynd about now.

 

Totally down for this. Mentioned a CFD few posts back.

 

Am I the only person 

 

 

Can we try to lynch Mafia instead of deciding which probtown to lynch?

 

We should all be voting Mynd about now.

 

We have 9 minutes to deadline.  Can we do it?

 

Lynching Mish just seems like we are lynching town for lulz.

What are we even doing?

 

 

Leelou that was supposed to be "Am I the only person who is dissatisfied with lynching the least valuable town because it's not a PR? I would like to lynch Mafia.

Get some votes on Mynd, guys!

 

Remember that it's hybrid hammer! We don't need to get 10 votes, we just need him to be the lead wagon at the end of the day.

I took me about six minutes to wake up, read the last 3-4 pages and realize that Mish pretty much has to be town here.

 

 

Do you guys seriously want to speedlynch Mynd?

 

Yes

 

Do you seriously want to lynch Mish? Do you think there is any remote chance she is Mafia in this situation?

 

You have two minutes to be satisfied with a probtown lynch or switch your vote onto someone who has contradicted themselves, hedged, and gadgeted all game but can't seem to get a wagon to take off.

 

Be smart.

[Verbal32]

It's Kathleen wow hey what's up not much you well it was good chatting ttyl

 

Good LOL in my catchup.

 

 

 

 

My vote is failing to intimidate anyone. I am disappoint.

 

You are going to have to wait maybe a day and a half for Krak to catch up and realize he has some pressure. And then he'll have more of a convo with Nolder. 

 

 

Another one.

[Yates]

 

Yeah. I'm just gonna do this for a while:

 

##Vote: Jack_D

 

FTR - I'm still Tytos Blackwood.

Why?

 

I know some of you are going to think this is weird, but it's a catch up post tell that is oddly accurate that first turned me on to the idea of Jack-scum.

 

My whole case is fairly circumstantial, granted, but there are reasons Jack isn't sitting even in the null pile. Things like claiming to agree with Mynd's thoughts up to page 25 ring as hollow to me. Same with your odd buddy up post to wombat. In retrospect, it looks like you knew he was on the short list of "Townies to Kill" and wanted to get his reads to rank him up or down on the list. Plus, now all of a sudden you have an opportunistic vote on Mynd - who you have NEVER cast suspicion upon - now that he's a fairly obvious/popular lynch target.

 

Bottom line: I don't like the totality of your play, Jack.

 

On page 92 getting caught up but felt this needed to be addressed.

[Verbal32]

I feel like Mynd overextended a bit (he likes to be out there and lead as scum), but then bumped up against folks like Cory & Tom, and now has shrunk back and isn't playing out in front anymore.

 

I also want to reread Jack a bit.