[Advanced] Twilight Mafia Game over - Mafia win

[Tommyrod]

Don't harsh my style, bro. Slips are of the utmost. 

[Darthe]

i do actually try darthe. i read the whole thread i dont skim and i try. i find it much easier late game with fewer people as it is less distracting but i do actually try.

 

the time dif does make it hard for me cause i i can mostly get on at night here and find it hard to have a discussion with someone that is spread out over a long period of time. i will be thinking something and looking for something and not see a reply for 12hrs or more and will have lost where i was going.

 

and i do think i have improved a bit. maybe not heaps but a bit

Perhaps, apologies if I offended you.  I simply disagree with your reasoning because you have the ability to take notes, to ask questions and await response later and to push things the same as any of us.  Utilize your skills more effectively.

 

 

 

 

I´m not sure why Verb and Tom are acting like this at all. 

 

I watched Cory last night. I saw Hallia visit him. It should have been clear to everyone like a week ago. I said that I can´t be sure that she is town but her reaction to my claim made me think so. She can´t be sure that I´m a town watcher but she knows I´m right with the role claim. 

Is this the first time you revealed that it was Hallia you saw visiting Cory? 

 

 

Yes, but you should have seen this if you had really read the thread. Look at Hallia´s reaction to my claim. This is why I´m suspicious of you and Verb when you did everything you could to make her claim. 

 

I haven't really read the thread   

 

So what we know now is Hallia should know your power probably is watcher, but we (the viewing public) have no evidence as to whether you are a town watcher or scum watcher. Correct?

 

 

Actually, no.  Hally shouldn't know that at all.  If Tina watches someone and she claimed but didn't reveal who she watched then that person should have no way to know that they were the one who was watched... So this doesn't explain Hallias behavior earlier.  

[Tommyrod]

Good point. Was there some kind of secret signal? Can someone pull that event up?

[Niniel]

Of course I didn´t tell before he died. Why would I? 

 

And don´t make it sound like I´m the only alternative. 

 

Now I really need to go to sleep. Work day tomorrow. 

[Darthe]

 

Tina pressure sounds moot.  We have had a train on her before and we got her claim.  Now we either lynch her or wait.

 

 

Nobody wanted to respond to this?

[Lenlo]

If Hallia was on Cory last night according to Tina, how is she 99% Tina is town? Did I miss something?

[Tommyrod]

Of course I didn´t tell before he died. Why would I? 

 

And don´t make it sound like I´m the only alternative. 

 

Now I really need to go to sleep. Work day tomorrow. 

 

[Niniel]

@ Darthe. When I revield earlier I said I watched Cory and that I saw someone visit him. After that Hally posted that she believed my claim. Pretty clear, right?

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Tina pressure sounds moot.  We have had a train on her before and we got her claim.  Now we either lynch her or wait.

 

 

Nobody wanted to respond to this?

 

 

I don't think we're drawing from a full deck in this game.

[Lenlo]

@ Darthe. When I revield earlier I said I watched Cory and that I saw someone visit him. After that Hally posted that she believed my claim. Pretty clear, right?

Oh thats what. You didnt say Hallia visited him, you said someone did and hallia believed your claim after that. My bad, I missread.

[Darthe]

@ Darthe. When I revield earlier I said I watched Cory and that I saw someone visit him. After that Hally posted that she believed my claim. Pretty clear, right?

 

Fair.  Doesn't make you claim a townie but it is a point in your favor.  I still find tracker more likely.

[Tommyrod]

So... 15 minutes. 

[Hallia]

How close are we to anyone's lynch? I don't fancy a punishment

[Verbal32]

Just realized James would more likely be a tracker, and not a watcher.

[Lenlo]

Anyone got a VC?

[Verbal32]

VC?

[Darthe]

no clue.  Been a long time since we had a VC,

[Verbal32]

lol

[Tommyrod]

It's something like 3/3 Dice/Tina.

[Leelou]

I am very much stuck in Boston and very cranky. 15 mins to deadline and I can't pull a vc because my phone is dying. Scene when I get home. Whenever that is.

[Verbal32]

^ to Lenlo

[Darthe]

Just realized James would more likely be a tracker, and not a watcher.

Yeah I said that initially but that is an easy switch when fake claiming.  Who could possibly be a tracker other than a wolf or the indian dude?

[Darthe]

I am very much stuck in Boston and very cranky. 15 mins to deadline and I can't pull a vc because my phone is dying. Scene when I get home. Whenever that is.

Could we have an hour extension so that we can get stuff together?

[Tommyrod]

In case it's unclear, I am now less impressed with Tina's commentary on the weird Hallia/Dice interaction if Dice is the doctor and Hallia is also town.

When did she post that? Lemme see.

[Tommyrod]

Okay, I have read the thread and taken notes. 

 

Darthe: I understand what Tommy is saying about his "tone". He is consistent and his outbursts could be from a frustrated townie. But... how hard can it be to be consistent when he just decided that I/Cory/Des are scum on d1 and then not talking about anything other than that? He is in a tunnel where he doesn´t talk about anything than that. Except for the last page when he vote/unvotes Lenlo. Now, he did hint early that he was the one that stole Des´s vote. Not sure if that would indicate being town? Actually, I think all claims have come very quick today.Darthe, you said that your role was Vindictive vote thief. What does vindictive stand for? 

 

Des: There are things that I wonder about him but I still think he is town. Things that I want to ask him is: Why did you list Verbal and Tommy as town in #510? Since you have a town read on Dawn and Clov now - who do you think is mafia instead? 

 

Dawn: Makes no sense whatsoever. Again, I must ask those of you who played with her in her first games - did she play like this as mafia? I do get a newbie town feeling but her reasons for her votes are so bad and she just dropped the ones from yesterday today. 

 

Dice: I didn´t like his Cory vote yesterday. His reason for voting Jack was because it´s "the best choice" and that he didn´t like the Des train. It´s not really a reason. Can´t remember how close to DL it was. Today he thinks Darthe is town and Des is town after his claim. But who is scum? I don´t get a good feeling from Dice. Add to that when he questioned Hallia why she voted for him even though she didn´t. Actually that exchange was strange:

H: Dice voted Cory d1. Ping!

D: Did you vote me because I voted Cory who voted Des even though he said Des was town and then jumped to another vote?

H: I didn´t vote you.

D: No, I was wrong.

Ehm... Hallia didn´t answer and Dice let it go as well. 

 

Tommy: Haven´t done much. Votes Lenlo and says Darthe, Dawn and Pral are town. Have you read the whole thread now?

 

Hallia: Haven´t said much either.  I liked the posts about Dice and Pral but I´m not sure I understand her vote on Dawn. 

 

Verbal: Doesn´t play on weekends but haven´t said much after the weekend either. Have he voted at all? 

 

Pral: I like most of his posts even though I don´t agree with his reason why Darthe wouldn´t want to kill BFG. That is just a big WIFOM. 

 

Lenlo: He voted me in #137 and after that he has not done much but saying over and over again that I´m scum. But then he unvotes me on day 2 because Des says he should??? At the same time he says that Des looks scummier. How does this match? When Des asks him he says that Darthe is horrendous but that he rather vote me, although he is not allowed. Ehm... When Des points out that he hasn´t gone after Darthe at all he suddenly votes Darthe but continue to say that he rather vote me. And then he claims without many votes on him. What in this is town? 

 

Clov: I don´t understand what he was doing on D1. Des says that he scum slipped. Clov tried to explain that if one of the votes on Des was a scum vote then it would have been Cory´s. But he never goes after Cory. Instead he votes Des himself. He also seems to stand on the side line - a comment here, a question there. At the same time I think he have made some logical posts. I have played with him before but don´t know how he played then or if he was town/mafia. I do get bad vibes here. 

 

Did I remember everyone?

 

 

The post in question. I thought she was putting Sus on Hallia here after she should have "cleared" Hallia, but it looks like it was just on Dice. The rest of the post isn't too impressive in retrospect, a lot of "I don't get it" and "I'm not sure."